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Reporting news and analyzing issues affecting the world, the Church, and your family from a Biblical perspective. Crosstalk is a live hour-long call in program heard weekdays on over 100 radio stations across America, hosted by Jim Schneider and produced by VCY America

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Milwaukee, WI

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Reporting news and analyzing issues affecting the world, the Church, and your family from a Biblical perspective. Crosstalk is a live hour-long call in program heard weekdays on over 100 radio stations across America, hosted by Jim Schneider and produced by VCY America

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English

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3434 W. Kilbourn Ave. Milwaukee, WI 53208 1-800-733-9829


Episodes

Remembering Terri Schiavo

3/27/2024
Brad Mattes is president of Life Issues Institute which was founded in 1991 to serve the educational needs of the pro-life movement. Brad is the host of Life Issues, a daily radio commentary, also the weekly Straight Talk on Life Issues and has produced numerous radio specials standing for life.--19 years ago on March 31, 2005, after almost 14 days without nutrition or hydration, Terri Schindler Schiavo died by severe dehydration. What was her crime-- Her crime was that she needed a feeding tube and fluids, all to stay alive. --Terri's case went national. President Bush became involved, the Florida legislature sought to intervene on her behalf, while requests made by her parents were struck down by the courts. Pro-life organizations from around America were involved as well and eventually her case went all the way to the Supreme Court, more than once.--What led to the collapse at her home-- What do we know about her then husband Michael-- Was she brain dead, in a coma or reliant upon machines to keep her alive-- What led up to her death sentence by court order-- Join Brad as he answers these and many more questions surrounding this tragic death that we must never forget.

Duration:00:53:00

SCOTUS Enters Abortion Pill Debate

3/26/2024
Mat Staver is founder - chairman of Liberty Counsel. He is a constitutional attorney with three landmark cases before the U.S. Supreme Court. Mat is an author and the host of the radio broadcasts Faith - Freedom and Freedom's Call.--This program dealt with a number of issues, but the primary focus concerned recent Supreme Court cases. The first one dealt with the court's hearing of oral arguments on March 18th in the case of Murthy v. Missouri. At issue was the Biden administration's pressuring of social media platforms to remove posts that they believe are falsehoods dealing with topics such as the COVID pandemic or the 2020 presidential election. --The next item discussed involved the court's hearing of oral arguments over two cases that were consolidated- FDA v. Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine and Danco Laboratories LLC v. Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine. Some say that this could have the potential effect of stopping mail-order abortions. That's because, as Mat explains in detail, these cases deal with the FDA's approval of Mifepristone, a drug that's used to terminate pregnancies during early stages.--Listeners brought their comments to the discussion during the second half of the broadcast.

Duration:00:53:00

The Quest for Medical Privacy

3/25/2024
Twila Brase is president and co-founder of Citizens' Council for Health Freedom, a national patient-centered, privacy-focused, free-market policy organization to support health care choices, individualized patient care and medical and genetic privacy. Twila is a certified public health nurse and author of the eight-time award-winning book, Big Brother in the Exam Room- The Dangerous Truth About Electronic Health Records. She's the speaker on the daily Health Freedom Minute heard on radio stations across the nation.--14 years ago this past Saturday, the so-called Affordable Care Act was signed into law by President Obama. Jim shared the opening of a press release that went out last Friday from the Biden-Harris campaign. It communicated that the ACA provides millions of Americans with the freedom and security for people to live life the way they want without the fear that one accident or illness will bankrupt them or their families.--Twila agrees this was a very consequential law but she believes it didn't improve freedom or security. It gave us unaffordable premiums and deductibles and no other options. So from her perspective, there's nothing affordable about it and the price for care itself is not any lower. The high prices are at every level from care to coverage and in addition, the health plan is allowed to deny you access to care. For Twila, it all fits the agenda of moving us toward a national health care system.--Join Jim and Twila as they look at more including---Has this situation pushed medical professionals into early retirement---How secure is everyone's medical information---What do we know about the cyber attack that took place last month.

Duration:00:53:00

News Roundup & Comment

3/22/2024
Deportation cases dismissed, massive spending bill creates controversy, the so-called Affordable Care Act celebrates a birthday and more. These and other headlines are covered on the -Round-Up- this week.----The massive spending bill presented by House Republican leaders is filled with millions of dollars in funding for LGBT organizations, including -845,000 for gay garden parties. --The 1.2 trillion dollar spending bill released by Speaker Mike Johnson was blasted by Representatives Chip Roy and Marjorie Taylor Green. Jim provided audio from both representatives.----Days after underwriting the 92 million dollar bond for former President Donald Trump's E. Jean Carroll defamation appeal, insurance giant Chubb, has now declined to underwrite the half-billion dollar appeal bond that the GOP frontrunner needs in his New York civil fraud case.----New York Attorney General Letitia James recently took the first steps toward seizing Trump's assets according to public records. ----Former President Trump and other defendants in the Georgia election interference case have the go-ahead to appeal last week's ruling that allows Fulton County D.A. Fani Willis to continue to lead the prosecution. ----Tomorrow is the 14th anniversary of the so-called Affordable Care Act.----Despite the fact that over 90- of the U.S. population has some form of health insurance, medical debt remains a persistent problem.----By nearly two to one, voters believe President Joe Biden is using the Justice Department to hobble former President Donald Trump and jail him so that he can't win the Fall election.

Duration:00:53:00

Who Am I? Solving the Identity Crisis

3/21/2024
We have an identity crisis in America. People are trying to discover who they are, especially those from the younger generations. In fact, some will spend large sums of money to discover themselves on self-awareness retreats. With this phenomenon there's been a rise in attention on psychology, gender, sexuality and identity politics. Life has become subjective for many as their search is based on feelings and the flames of this model are being fanned by social media, politics and pop culture. --Appearing on Crosstalk to discuss this issue was Martyn Iles. Martyn is an Australian-born lawyer, commentator, and the Executive CEO of Answers in Genesis, home to the highly acclaimed Creation Museum and the world-renowned Ark Encounter. Previously, Martyn was the co-founder of a not-for-profit law firm specializing in religious freedom cases. He also led one of Australia's largest grassroots political movements through a period of remarkable growth.-Martyn believes the genesis of this identity crisis starts with the fact that for some their ultimate authority has changed. It used to be that people looked above themselves to ultimate authority in God, seeing him as the one who defines reality and how we should live. Then we went through the secular age where it's believed that science answers everything. However we know that can't last because without God, science makes no sense. After all, the only reason we do science is because we believe there's ultimate truth in reality. So people have been searching for yet another ultimate authority and truth and they're attempting to find it in self.--Listen in as Jim has Martyn explain the puzzle pieces in the book.

Duration:00:53:00

Immigration Enforcement Hangs in the Balance

3/20/2024
The State of Texas has been overrun by those attempting to enter illegally. The safety of residents has been put in jeopardy, crime has increased, public services have been stretched, the healthcare system has suffered, disease has been brought in and more. The state is saying, -enough is enough- because the federal government has refused to follow the law so the state legislature and governor have stepped up to deal with the issue. The problem is that at every turn, they've been opposed and taken to court by the Biden administration.--With more on this issue, Crosstalk welcomed back Mark Krikorian. Mark is a nationally recognized expert on immigration issues serving as the executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies.--Earlier this year, Texas Governor Greg Abbott said that the federal government has broken the compact between the U.S. and the states and that the executive branch of the U.S. has a constitutional duty to enforce federal laws protecting the states, including immigration laws.--Mark responded by noting that what states are now experiencing from this lack of protection by the federal government should be considered an invasion under the Constitution. This argument hasn't been fully litigated but the contention is that since the states are being invaded, they can't be expected to simply stand by when the federal government refuses to do its job. Mark indicated that politically speaking this is true. However, does that come under the definition of an invasion in the Constitution-- That's what needs to be answered while ultimately, the federal government needs to change its policies.

Duration:00:53:00

Exposing Medical Collusion: The Grace Schara Story

3/19/2024
Scott Schara is the father of Grace Schara, the 19-year-old daughter with Down Syndrome who tested positive for COVID, was hospitalized and treated following the protocols carried out in hospitals across the country. Grace was ushered into eternity on October 13, 2021. Scott is presently engaged in a landmark lawsuit, Schara vs. Ascension Health et all. He warns about the dangers of incentivized healthcare. His work and story have been chronicled in a chapter of the Wall Street Journal Bestseller, Rise of the Fourth Reich.--Scott began with a brief review of the equipment and drugs that were used to treat his daughter. Part of this involved the drug -cocktail- that she had been given for her COVID condition. Another critical factor is the Do-Not-Resuscitate -DNR- order that was placed on her without Scott's permission at St. Elizabeth Hospital in Appleton, Wisconsin.--As a result, Scott brought forth a landmark lawsuit -Schara v. Ascension Health et al-. In the lawsuit, Scott has a wrongful death claim, a medical malpractice claim, a lack of informed consent and a declaratory judgment for both the illegal DNR and illegal medicine combination. However, it's the fifth claim that's the most important. It's a medical battery claim. This takes Grace's claim outside of state statutes because such statutes attempt to shield doctors and nurses so they cannot be sued. --At stake are factors such as informed consent and whether health care workers should have the right to unilaterally, with limited liability, be able to label patients as DNR.--Scott has been granted a trial date of November 6th in the Outagamie County Court system.

Duration:00:53:00

History of the Income Tax

3/18/2024
April 15th is a day that has gone down in notoriety. On April 15, 1865, President Abraham Lincoln died. He was shot the night before in Ford's Theatre. On April 15, 1912, the Titanic sank, having struck an iceberg the night before. April 15, 1927, was the Great Mississippi Flood where some 15 inches of rain fell in 18 hours causing the river to break out of its levee system at well over 100 locations and caused flooding in 10 states. In 1954, April 15th became the deadline for filing income tax returns. No doubt you've heard the familiar quote of Benjamin Franklin who said, 'Our new Constitution is now established, everything seems to promise it will be durable- but in this world, nothing is certain except death and taxes.' --We have all come to realize the impact taxes have upon us, but are you aware of the history of the income tax and how it came about-- What was its purpose-- Is today's modern system of taxes a breach from what was originally intended--

Duration:00:50:48

News Roundup & Comment

3/15/2024
The -Round-Up- brought the following stories and more to listeners this week-----Israeli and U.S. leaders reacted to what some are calling an unprecedented call by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer for new elections in Israel. Schumer wants elections so Israeli citizens can replace the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.----The Israeli Defense Forces aided an international, non-profit organization in evacuating nearly 70 orphans from Gaza and transferring them to safety in Bethlehem in the biblical region of Judea and Samaria. ----The Israeli Cabinet convened earlier today to discuss the response of Hamas who is shifting their demands in a new hostage swap offer. ----The Biden administration is poised to issue a fresh sanctions waiver for Iran that will grant them access to upwards of ten billion dollars in frozen assets.----With all of his influential critics dead, jailed or in exile, Russian President Vladimir Putin was due to win a controversial presidential contest cementing his role as the nation's longest running leader since Joseph Stalin.----Leaked Kremlin documents have shown that it wants Putin to win 80- of the vote on a high turnout and to prove that Russians support his war in Ukraine.----Ukrainian drone attacks halted 3 oil refineries deep within Russian territory in an assault Russian President Vladimir Putin said was aimed at disrupting the presidential elections. ----A drone attack in Odessa, Ukraine, resulted in the tragic deaths of 12 individuals including a Baptist pastor's daughter and grandson. ----On Tuesday the White House announced a 300 million dollar military aid package for Ukraine.

Duration:00:53:00

The Winds of Change: Revolting Against Leftist Policies

3/14/2024
Robert Knight is a former Los Angeles Times news editor, is a current columnist for the Washington Times and contributes to other publications as well. Robert has held senior positions in a number of pro-family organizations. He has written several books including The Coming Communist Wave- What Happens If the Left Captures All Three Branches of Government, Liberty on the Brink, and Crooked- What Really Happened in the 2020 Election and How to Stop the Fraud.--There are very intense efforts underway in our culture today attempting to sway, manipulate and motivate individuals to surrender their morals, values, sovereignty, free speech, Biblical faith. They want individuals to accept this world's system which includes immorality, socialism, diversity, equity, inclusion and deep-state solutions.--There are entities who want the populace to do nothing more than follow the pied piper and the allurement of his magical tune. We have seen shifts in our culture change in ways never dreamed by our founders.--But amidst this shift, which began so subtly, there are individuals who are waking up and saying that enough is enough- The winds of change are blowing and Americans are revolting against the policies and dictates of the left.

Duration:00:53:00

Israel: We Must Not Forget October 7th

3/13/2024
Dr. Richard Schmidt is pastor of Union Grove Baptist Church, and founder of Prophecy Focus Ministries. He's the speaker on the weekly TV program, Prophecy Focus and the radio broadcast, Prophecy Unfolding. He spent 32 years in law enforcement including that of Acting Sheriff of Milwaukee County until his retirement. He has authored several books.--When you look at what's being said on university campuses today, when you hear politicians condemning Israel for taking direct action to protect herself, when you observe the U.N. resolutions coming out against Israel, and when you see the growing number of legacy media stories scolding Israel, it's as if October 7th never happened. Also, how many sources will be telling you that just today, over 100 rockets were launched from Lebanon into northern Israel----There's a reason for all of this and Dr. Schmidt explained why from a biblical perspective as he looked at the following---While some concentrate on the 30,000 Palestinians that are said to have been killed in the war thus far, what they don't tell you is that Israel has been trying to move people out of harm's way in Rafah in the southern part of Gaza as this area will be under attack in the near future.--What did President Biden mean when he was caught on a hot mic after his State of the Union address, telling someone that he and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu need to have a -come to Jesus moment-----How many terrorists were in Gaza and at this late stage in the war, how many might still be operating----Is there a move afoot by the current administration to collapse Benjamin Netanyahu while at the same time trying to support Israel--

Duration:00:53:00

Pre-born Life in the Crosshairs

3/12/2024
Rev. Jim Harden is president and CEO of CompassCare Pregnancy Services in New York. Jim pioneered the first measurable and repeatable medical model in the pregnancy center movement, helping hundreds of centers nationwide become more effective at reaching more women and saving more babies from abortion. He's written extensively on medical ethics, executive leadership and pro-life strategy.--This broadcast involved some tough-talk, not just about abortion, but the idea of what it really means to be human as it discussed the following---Rev. Harden's clinic was fire-bombed shortly after the Dobbs decision was leaked. What's the status of those who launched this act of terrorism----Rev. Harden believes we now have two different justice systems in America. He explained what this means for our constitutional rule of law, for the pre-born and those who support life.--Kate Cox, the woman who wanted to abort her child due to a genetic abnormality and her appearance at the State of the Union address.-The Alabama Supreme Court decision, why in vitro fertilization -IVF- is just as horrific as abortion and why we should never let emotion drive legislation. --Has technology outpaced morality to the point where we no longer have a bioethical standard----The abortion pill, how it works, and the involvement of Walgreens and CVS.

Duration:00:53:00

Without Excuse: Compelling Evidence for Creation

3/11/2024
There is a growing skepticism toward God in American culture today. Some foolishly deny that God exists. Others say they do not know if God exists, while others merely hope that God exists. God wants us to know that he does exist and that his word, the Bible, is his timeless and unchangeable revelation to mankind.-In fact, from Psalm 19-1 to Romans 1-20, we see that nature reveals God's existence and everyone is accountable and without excuse. --Appearing on Crosstalk to demonstrate this fact was Bruce Malone. Bruce is executive director of Search for the Truth Ministries, an organization that widely disseminates Bible-affirming creation materials. Bruce has spent over 30 years bringing the scientific evidence for creation to churches and schools at seminars throughout the U.S. and around the world. He's authored or co-authored ten books on the evidence for creation.--The story behind Bruce's book actually goes back to a Superbowl party 20 years ago that his church would put on for the city. At halftime the gospel would be presented to the youth in a large auditorium. Bruce asked the youth pastor if he could have 5 minutes with the youth to present evidence for creation. Part of his presentation involved giving them the book, Refuting Evolution by Jonathan Sarfati. Weeks later he asked the kids how they liked the book and not a single student had read it. Why-- It's because it looked like another textbook. --It's from that point on that Bruce decided that if he's going to write books, they'd be short, visual and fun to read. So he began to write creation devotionals where each day of the year he'd present wonderful examples of God's creativity and genius.

Duration:00:53:00

News Roundup & Comment

3/8/2024
Here's a sample of stories from the Crosstalk news desk that made the cut for this week's broadcast-----Dozens of pro-Palestinian protesters blocked President Biden's motorcade as he arrived at the Capitol ahead of last evening's State of the Union address.----President Biden kicked off his State of the Union speech, not by addressing the U.S. border or the economy, but by praising Ukraine almost immediately. ----Also during his speech, President Biden warned the Supreme Court Justices, calling on the power of women to help restore Roe v. Wade and abortion on demand.----Pete Buttigieg was challenged by a CNBC host regarding immigration. Jim provided audio of the exchange.----Jim also provided audio of Bill Clinton from 1995 talking about the problem of illegal aliens during one of his State of the Union addresses.----In the official Republican response to last night's speech, Senator Katie Britt of Alabama highlighted several of the Biden administration's failings, notably its handling of the southern border which she called a disgrace.----Members of the Republican National Committee elected a replacement for former chairwoman Ronna McDaniel after she stepped down. - ---Former President Barack Obama said he's all-in for Joe Biden's re-election but there's been a question. NBC News reports that a question nagging at many Democrats is what role Michelle Obama might play.----Former President Trump all but locked up the Republican nomination this week.----President Biden did appeal to voters of Nikki Haley to back him in the November election.----Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell has endorsed Donald Trump for president.

Duration:00:53:00

The State of the Union 2024

3/7/2024
Tonight, President Biden will deliver his State of the Union address. Before Jim opened the phone lines for listeners to weigh in on that topic, he brought forth information on the following stories---The U.C. Santa Barbara Black Studies Department has organized what's being called, -A Day of Interruption.- It's taking place today with subsequent -work slowdowns- to protest steps that the administrators recently took to support Jewish students and to quell anti-semitic protests on campus.--According to Axios, more than half -65-- of voters think that the nation is heading in the wrong direction. That's according to a poll the New York Times and Siena College published Saturday.--The GOP led House passed the Laken Riley Act. This bill would require the detention of illegal immigrants who commit certain crimes. It would allow states to sue the Biden administration for not enforcing parole. It's designed to prevent another murder like the one of Laken Riley by ending the -catch and release- of illegal aliens, increasing immigration enforcement, detaining and removing criminal aliens, reinstating the -Remain in Mexico- policy and ending Biden's abuse of parole authority and securing the U.S. border. It now moves to the U.S. Senate.--President Biden ordered protective fencing installed around the U.S. Capitol in advance of tonight's State of the Union address. It's apparently designed to keep -bad actors- from infiltrating the security perimeter. So why can't we have such protection at the nation's border-- --During the remainder of the program, listeners were asked to call in and answer the following question- The state of the union is...

Duration:00:53:00

Federal Health Agencies and the COVID Cartel: What Are They Hiding? Pt. 3

3/6/2024
This is part 3 of audio from a roundtable discussion hosted by Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. This roundtable was held at the U.S. Capitol last week, February 26, 2024. It was titled- Federal Health Agencies and the COVID Cartel- What Are They Hiding-- In this discussion, the senator and a panel of experts exposed the corruption and censorship of the COVID cartel including federal health agencies, Big Pharma, legacy media and Big Tech. This event opened the public's eyes to the failure of the global elite and their institutions while at the same time giving a platform to suppressed and marginalized voices.--As this roundtable concludes, you'll hear more from panel participants including Dr. Brian Hooker, Del Bigtree, Dr. Pierre Kory, Rodney Palmer, Dr. Bret Weinstein, Randy Hillier and some wrap-up comments from Dr. Ryan Cole and Senator Ron Johnson.--Consider sharing this series of broadcasts with your family, loved ones and friends.

Duration:00:53:00

Federal Health Agencies and the COVID Cartel: What Are They Hiding? Pt. 2

3/5/2024
Yesterday on Crosstalk we began sharing audio from a roundtable discussion hosted by Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. This roundtable was held at the U.S. Capitol on February 26, 2024. It was titled- Federal Health Agencies and the COVID Cartel- What Are They Hiding-- In this discussion, the senator and a panel of experts exposed the corruption and censorship of the COVID cartel including federal health agencies, Big Pharma, legacy media and Big Tech. This event opened the public's eyes to the failure of the global elite and their institutions. This forum also gave a platform to suppressed and marginalized voices.--Yesterday's broadcast featured testimony from Senator Ron Johnson, Dr. Robert Malone, Dr. Jessica Rose and Ed Dowd. Ed Dowd, with Finance Technologies, spoke about the impact of the COVID shots, including the 1.1 million excess deaths, 3.5 million excess disabilities and lost work of -135 billion dollars. You can listen to yesterday's program at Crosstalkamerica.com. For the full conference you can find links at Senator Ron Johnson's website.--In part 2 of this edition of Crosstalk, you can hear testimony from Kevin McKernan, Dr. David Gortler, Dr. Harvey Risch and Barbara Loe Fisher.

Duration:00:53:00

Federal Health Agencies and the COVID Cartel: What Are They Hiding? Pt. 1

3/4/2024
On February 26, 2024 U.S. Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin led a roundtable discussion titled, Federal Health Agencies and the COVID Cartel- What Are They Hiding-- In this discussion, the senator and a panel of experts exposed the corruption and censorship of the COVID cartel including federal health agencies, Big Pharma, legacy media and Big Tech. This event opened the public's eyes to the failure of the global elite and their institutions. This forum also gave a platform to suppressed and marginalized voices.--Forum participants included---Dr. Robert Malone-Dr. Jessica Rose-Mr. Ed Dowd-Kevin McKernan-Dr. David Gorthler-Dr. Harvey Risch-Barbara Loe Fisher-Dr. Brian Hooker-Dr. Pierre Kory-Dr. Raphael Lataster and many others.

Duration:00:53:00

News Roundup & Comment

3/1/2024
Dalton handled hosting duties as he brought listeners the following from the news desk-----The Texas wildfire has now destroyed over 1 million acres.----Congressman Pat Fallon of Texas questioned Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin on the number of military member deaths and Putin's behavior under Trump vs. under President Biden. Dalton provided audio of the exchange. ----At the National Religious Broadcasters convention in Nashville, former President Trump indicated that the greatest threat to Americans is from within. Dalton provided 3 audio clips from Trump's speech. ----According to a statement from the National Religious Broadcasters, they oppose the use of the erroneous term, -West Bank- to describe the biblical heartland of Israel.----In the face of increasing global pressure, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has reiterated his vow to destroy Hamas and ensure that Gaza never again constitutes a threat to Israel. ----4 underwater communications cables between Saudi Arabia and Djibouti have been damaged disrupting communications between Europe and Asia.----The House overwhelmingly passed its latest temporary spending measure to avoid a scheduled government shutdown over the weekend.----House Republicans are considering lending the Ukrainian government funding for the country's war against Russia rather than providing 61 billion under the Senate-passed foreign aid bill.--Details on these and other stories, along with listener comments, can be heard on this edition of Crosstalk.

Duration:00:53:00

Living in the Daze of Deception

2/28/2024
Pastor Jack Hibbs is senior and founding pastor of Calvary Chapel Chino Hills, California. He's the author of the newly released book, Living in the Daze of Deception.--Pastor Hibbs began by pointing out that the word, -daze- in the title isn't a typo, it's deliberate as it came out of a sermon series that he did. As Jim noted, the first part of the book goes to great length to awaken the reader to the many kinds of deception that have many in such a daze in our time. --So who is he trying to target with his warning-- Pastor Hibbs responded by noting that initially the warning was meant for the church, but then the publisher noted that people were buying multiple copies. When he looked into it more he discovered that people have been buying these extra copies for non-believers. As he explained, you don't have to be a Christian to figure out that what's in this book is happening in your living rooms, neighborhoods, state and world.--He believes the elements of deception are everywhere. In other words, evil knows no limits. So if it's in church, politics or business, evil needs to be exposed and deception is the key tactic within evil.--One point this broadcast discusses is global deception -often taking the form of agendas- because of modern communication methods. This can be seen by how easy it is for people to be gripped by fear because they read a headline. This situation was certainly leveraged as the world was basically shut down due to COVID-19. We saw -experts- on both sides in total contradiction and Pastor Hibbs concluded that when you have experts in disagreement on a topic, then there are no experts- the jury is still out on that issue.

Duration:00:53:00