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Learning how the contemporary visual art world works, one conversation at a time. How does the visual art world work? I don’t know either, so I will ask the people that work in the industry and try to learn how the contemporary visual art world functions and hopefully be able to take their insight and experiences and learn how we can make a living from our artwork. Hosted by Matthew Dols

Learning how the contemporary visual art world works, one conversation at a time. How does the visual art world work? I don’t know either, so I will ask the people that work in the industry and try to learn how the contemporary visual art world functions and hopefully be able to take their insight and experiences and learn how we can make a living from our artwork. Hosted by Matthew Dols


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Learning how the contemporary visual art world works, one conversation at a time. How does the visual art world work? I don’t know either, so I will ask the people that work in the industry and try to learn how the contemporary visual art world functions and hopefully be able to take their insight and experiences and learn how we can make a living from our artwork. Hosted by Matthew Dols






Corporate Curator at the General Mills Art Collection, Lisa Melander (Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA)

We discuss: - how she got a job as a corporate curator - how corporate collections find art and artists - their art collection is for the enjoyment of the employees not as investments - their effort to continually keep the collection contemporary - the relationship of art and architecture - art conservation in corporate collections - their mission as a corporate art collection - buying art with frames or without frames - the importance of a thank you note - the need for more diversity in art...


Multi Media Artist, Tricia Wright (New York, USA)

We discuss: - being an expat artist - how being a parent affected her career - Feminism in the art world - how covid affected her studio practice - Public Art - the tradition of working in a style - the lack of coherent movements in contemporary art - the increased speed of the artworld - artist statements - the amount of sales should not equate to quality People + Places mentioned: Dieu Donné - Pollock-Krasner Foundation - Arts Mid-Hudson -...


Co-founders of Assembly, Ashlyn Davis Burns + Shane Lavalette (USA)

We discuss: - blending together a gallery, agency, and creative studio - looking to fix broken parts of the art world - a holistic approach to the needs of artists - grant funding - how they choose artists to work with - the importance of community - advocacy and ethics in photography - is there still need for a photographic 'style'? - the importance of authenticity 4 artist that inspire them: Pacifico Silano - Fumi Ishino - Alejandro...


Textile + Multi Media Artist, Petra Gupta Valentová (Czech Republic, India + USA)

We discuss: - the importance of relationships in her work - having a multi cultural work, life, and family - the need for more ethical practices in art - post colonial aesthetics - the importance of collaboration and empathy in her work - trying to remove the ego from art - advocacy for women artists - gentrification - her cookbook as artistic performance - storing her artwork - Indian food People + Places mentioned: Františka Ševčíková Gilman -...


Action + Multimedia Artist, Lumír Hladík (Canada + Czech Republic)

We discussed: - What it means to be a professional artist - Being rediscovered after decades - Everything influences everything - Speaking the language of things - what is art? - the art system - being a late bloomer - the need for time and distance - fleeing communism in 1981 - his connection to nature - including randomness and chance in art making - biointervention art - interspecies art - cult of personality - the algorithm - envying your younger self - viewers being impressed by...


Art Collector + Historian, Sveva D'antonio, Collezione Taurisano (Naples, Italy)

We discuss: - Having an art collection is like having a child - the barrier to entry in the art world - the detrimental fast pace of the art world - quality vs quantity - her wish that the art world would put artists in the center - ecological concerns in the art world - artist statements - Art Criticism - our dislike of the words nice and cute - self-segregation in the arts - how they choose to purchase art for their collection - the importance of being ethical in your collecting of art -...


Photographer, Educator, Founder + Editor-in-Chief of LENSCRATCH, Aline Smithson (California, USA)

We discussed: - portfolio reviews - constructive criticism - photography workshops - using humor in art - being subversion with social media - cultivating a younger generation of art collectors - unique photographic work - legacy planning - the importance of knowing who you are as an artist People + Places mentioned: John Baldessari Edward Ruscha Wayne White - Catherine Edelman Gallery - 3 artists she recommends: Raymond Thompson,...


Painter + Entrepreneur, Ashley Longshore (New Orleans, LA, USA)

We discuss: - Different definitions of success - Being a brand - The art world can have her when she is dead - Money and power does not make you happy - The need for goals - Pricing your work - Her philanthropy - Laws of economics - Having gratitude - Learning from partnerships - Living with anxiety - Self limitations - Collectors want to create relationship with living artists - Being an art collector - The need to find your audience People + Places mentioned: Marc Dennis -...


Director of the Kampala Biennale, Curator + Gallerist - Daudi Karungi (Kampala, Uganda)

We discussed: - Artists need galleries - his need to learn what a gallery should be - the issues of being outside of the international art market - the art fair circuit - the difference between African artists on the continent and African artists living elsewhere in the world - Contemporary African Art collectors - Repatriation - the need for more museums in Africa - his desire to sell art not artists - no need for artist statements - being in the art world is a long game 4 inspiring...


Gallery Director at Photo-Eye Gallery, Anne Kelly (Santa Fe, NM, USA)

We discussed: - gallery submissions - what it means to be a gallery director - making editions of your artwork - tiered edition pricing - exclusivity breeds desire - consistent pricing worldwide - certificates of authenticity (COA) - where and with what material to sign artwork - unique photographic works (vs editions) - the importance of using archival materials - social media - online exhibitions 3 artist she likes right now: Edward Bateman -...


Photographer + Writer, Tom Griggs (Colombia + Mexico)

We discuss: - Fine art photographers often teach, marry or are born into wealth, or work in property - being a juror for competitions and grants - being an expat artist - Latin American photography - the fact that english is the prominent language in the art world - gear heads in photography - self-segregation within the photo world - renting vs owning digital cameras - how to take family stories and make them art - using text and image - making personal stories approachable - getting a...


Executive Director of the San Francisco Center for the Book, Jeff Thomas (California, USA)

We discuss: - non-profit vs corporate culture - fundraising - issues of grant funding - lack of operating budget available vs special programs - artists' books - book artists - altered books - whether to use white gloves or not - new technologies in bookmaking - the investment of time and money needed to produce a book - who collects artist books 3 people that he recommends: Hedi Kyle - Tia Blassingame - Claire Van Vliet -...


Glass Sculptor, Kait Rhoads (Seattle, WA, USA)

We discussed: - working in glass takes a team - how a reality TV show changes peoples lives - reality vs reality TV - glass work takes a physical toll on her body - with the legalization of marijuana the trend of bong and pipe making - Art being used for money laundering - gender roles in glass studios - PTSD - teaching workshops - how to store glass sculptures - her sculpture babies - Artists are all planning for their retrospective exhibition - Legacy Planning - diversifying your price...


Photographer + Filmmaker, Betsy Schneider (Boston, MA, USA)

We discussed: - sexism in the photo industry - how she chooses a subject for a body of work - surrounding yourself with people whom will push you - how to know when a series is finished - artist statements - Guggenheim Fellowship - the benefits of being an underdog - the artistic idea of 'being in opposition too' everything - the desire to be an outsider while inside - artists being envious of other artists - self doubt is essential to making meaningful art - online portfolio reviews -...


Sculptural Furniture + Functional Object Designer, Laura Kishimoto (Denver, CO, USA)

We discussed: - the desire to have something noteworthy to contribute to the world - form above all else - sadly, merit does not drive success - the joke that artist should marry a rich person - wood always tries to remember it is a tree - speaking the loudest through your work - the strength of a community when in school - fail spectacularly while in school - Artist residencies - the importance of building a network - remove the stigma on copying - how she got her work in museums - brand...


Photographer, Professor, + Curator, Tema Stauffer (Tennessee, USA)

We discuss: - Arts Education - teaching art online - grant writing - creating a body of work - being a selling artist - the luxury of being a full time teacher - criticism vs social media likes - how she finds new creative ideas - how to make projects unique - analog versus digital photography - how to connect with book publishers People + Places mentioned: Rachel Boillot - D2L - Sasha Wolf Projects - Tracey Morgan Gallery...


Curator of African Art, Dr. Amanda M. Maples (USA + Germany)

We discuss: - being a white woman from rural USA curating African art - elitism in the art world - co-curatorial practices - the barriers to entry in the curatorial field - the global north - Masquerade - Diaspora throughout the art world - appropriate uses of the term Tribe - restitutions - reparations - the desire for equitable access to art throughout the world - the need for more global circulation among museums - colonialization in art museums - the need for museum transparency People +...


Photographer, Publisher + Owner of Zatara Press, Andrew Fedynak (Virginia, USA)

We discussed: - the nature of Wabi Sabi - you do not publish photo art books for the money - the disconnect within the photography industry - the need to be challenged - the problems with contemporary art education - the gamification of the art world - focusing on being an artist not a brand - tertiary forms of income - the importance of relationship building - business models of photo book publishing - contemporary printing technologies - rgb vs cmyk - book fairs - crowd funding - knowing...


Gallerist, Anna Schwartz, Anna Schwartz Gallery (Melbourne, Australia)

We discussed: - Her uncompromising position - Changes in the Art scene in Australia over the past 30 years - Artists should be protagonists - Her role of making artist she represents marketable - Art Fairs - it is all about relationships - the importance of family - Art academia - Gallery exchanges - Art as a Cultural representative - Artist are not show ponies - the importance of trust and confidence between gallery and their artist - if you have to resort to a contract it is a relationship...


Director of Artistic Projects + Master Collaborator at Dieu Donné, Tatiana Ginsberg (NY, USA)

We discussed: - paper as a cultural touchstone - find something you like to do and figure out how to make a living at it - paper as an artistic medium - the definition of paper - pulp paint - paper making residency - Fellowships - being safe in the studio during covid - concerns about post covid art funding - the benefits of webinars - how to float paper works in a frame - paper as a sculptural medium - rubber molds and laminate casting - new technologies in paper making - watermarks -...