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WITHIN ORB: A podcast featuring interviews with astrologers about the books that changed their lives and practice. Join host Dr Jenn Zahrt every Monday for a new conversation. Each (roughly) thirty minute episode takes you on a journey across the textual territories of astrological publishing, both historical and future. Along the way, you’ll gather insights into the shifting sands of astrological trends, techniques, and the proliferation of practices and praxis. Each episode ends with the guest’s recommendations of books for beginners. Be careful, your tsundoku pile is about to double, or even quadruple!

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WITHIN ORB: A podcast featuring interviews with astrologers about the books that changed their lives and practice. Join host Dr Jenn Zahrt every Monday for a new conversation. Each (roughly) thirty minute episode takes you on a journey across the textual territories of astrological publishing, both historical and future. Along the way, you’ll gather insights into the shifting sands of astrological trends, techniques, and the proliferation of practices and praxis. Each episode ends with the guest’s recommendations of books for beginners. Be careful, your tsundoku pile is about to double, or even quadruple!

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053 | Amanda Moreno: Building Zodiacal Containers

7/8/2024
Astrologer and educator Amanda Moreno joins host Jenn Zahrt from Seattle, Washington to chat books and more! Tune in for a wide-ranging discussion, which includes: astrology, magic, and shamanism; using star stuff to address worldwide issues; the evolution of human thought; planets squaring the nodes as skipped steps; tackling what we’d rather not look at; visions of Lilith; the archetypes of the zodiac; past- and early-life healing and shadow integration work; living in a time of great change and collective liberation; time as multidimensional; and understanding the biases of our craft. All that, plus: buying Aquarian posters at a teen hot spot, Italian restaurant bathrooms, and… can astrology tap into future lives?? Amanda Moreno joins Episode 53 of Within Orb! Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded June 2024): 00:31 – Amanda Moreno is an astrologer, soul worker, writer, and educator who has been helping folks connect more fully to their place in the universe since 2010. Her astro-roots are in the evolutionary, archetypal, and humanistic branches of the craft. She specializes in soul spelunking and long-term support. Her master’s degree in depth psychology focused on ways astrology can help people navigate personal and collective rites of passage. Amanda speaks at conferences, has worked with astro organizations and schools, and is most passionate about helping folks understand astrology as a living system and relational way of knowing. 01:53 – Thanks, Claire’s Boutique! Astrology first captured Amanda’s attention as a teen when she saw a poster about the sign of Aquarius. (Does she still have it? You betcha!) The first astrology book that Amanda ever got her hands on was Linda Goodman’s Love Signs. But the first one that she read cover-to-cover was the comprehensive Astrologik: The Oracular Art of Astrology by Antero Alli. 07:18 – If Amanda could bring only three books to a deserted island, what would she bring? The first one would be Cosmos and Psyche: Intimations of a New World View by Richard Tarnas. Tracking collective movements fascinates her, and she values the idea of using astrology to navigate our current paradigm shift. 09:44 – Amanda’s second choice is Understanding Karmic Complexes: Evolutionary Astrology and Regression Therapy by Patricia Walsh. Amanda believes that narrative astrology is important, and she appreciates this compilation of case studies from past-life regression combined with evolutionary astrology. 11:48 – Interlude: Join CAELi and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!) 12:35 – The third title that Amanda would bring is Mysteries of the Dark Moon: The Healing Power of the Dark Goddess by Demetra George. Again, the storytelling is critical, but this one is also a good resource and includes journal questions which are great for integration. 16:58 – Let’s circle back to Understanding Karmic Complexes! 20:20 – For beginners, Amanda recommends: Astrology for Yourself: How to Understand and Interpret Your Own Birth Chart by Demetra George and Douglas Bloch; Healing the Soul: Pluto, Uranus and the Lunar Nodes by Mark Jones; Making the Gods Work for You: The Astrological Language of the Psyche by Caroline Casey; Postcolonial Astrology: Reading the Planets through Capital, Power, and Labor by Alice Sparkly Kat; and The Archetypal Cosmos: Rediscovering the Gods in Myth, Science and Astrology by Keiron Le Grice. 27:40 – Find Amanda at her website: https://www.aquarianspirals.com/. You can also connect with her...

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052 | Linda “Moonrabbit” Zlotnick: Death Charts & Healing Grief

7/1/2024
Astrologer and author Linda "Moonrabbit" Zlotnick joins host Jenn Zahrt from St. Paul, Minnesota to chat all things books – including Moon’s upcoming groundbreaking book on death charts and moving through loss! Don’t miss this mini-lesson on death charts, as the two cover that and more, including: accessing the elements with integrated thinking; Uranus transits and freedom; Saturn, limitations, and internalizing authority; past lives and evolutionary perspectives; how the past isn’t disengaged from the present; eclipses, growth, and change; the 8th house; progressions as reinforcement; and working with folks who have experienced loss. Plus: 1970s library treasures, building blocks, and keeping it simple! Linda “Moonrabbit” Zlotnick joins Episode 52 of Within Orb! Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded June 2024): 00:31 – Linda “Moonrabbit” Zlotnick has been a Twin Cities professional astrologer for 47 years, with a focus on astrology as a source of illumination and healing. Moon began studying astrology in 1973; after formal training with Zipporah Dobyns in 1977, she began her full-time practice. Her experience with grief as a motherless daughter and twinless twin called her to write the book Star Sisters: An Astrologer's Memoir of Twin Loss. In 2015 she began her pioneering study of astrological death charts, which she uses now in her work with clients as a healing tool for the loss of a loved one. Stay tuned in 2025 for the release of her next book, which has the working title Death Charts: Using Astrology to Heal Grief. 01:01 – The first astrology book that Moon ever read was A To Z Horoscope Maker and Delineator by Llewellyn George; it was the only book under “astrology” in the public library in 1975! Another early favorite was Astrology, Psychology and the Four Elements: An Energy Approach to Astrology and Its Use in the Counseling Arts by Stephen Arroyo. Moon loved the psychological orientation of this one and the wealth of info about the elements. 02:43 – If Moon could bring only three books to a deserted island, what would she bring? The first one would be the current manuscript she’s finishing, tentatively titled Death Charts: Using Astrology to Heal Grief. Moon’s innovative work on death charts came about through the profound experience of losing her twin in 2005. Moon finds that working with clients using a loved one’s “last breath chart” helps foster greater understanding and perspective for them in revealing a path forward. 07:01 – Join the OPA Retreat 2024 in Utah (October 16 – 21, 2024), where Moon will be part of the faculty, teaching her course “Death Charts: A Healing Tool for the Bereaved.” 08:16 – Moon’s second choice is Saturn: A New Look at an Old Devil by Liz Greene. Moon finds that Greene can connect archetypal themes to planets in a helpful way, and this text would be a good intellectual support system (after breaking her kneecap this past winter)! 11:11 – Interlude: Join CAELi and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!) 11:58 – The third title that Moon would bring is Steven Forrest’s Yesterday’s Sky: Astrology and Reincarnation, because she likes the teachings on nodal patterns in the birth chart. (Enjoy the quick side trip to Pluto: The Evolutionary Journey of the Soul by Jeffrey Wolfe Green!) 15:43 – Moon shares more on her work with death charts, including bringing in eclipses, and how they impact the griever’s birth chart. Example included! 22:36 – For beginners, Moon recommends the series The Only...

Duration:00:25:27

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051 | Travis Black: On the Least Worst Astrology & More

6/24/2024
Astrologer, magician, and bodyworker Travis Black joins host Jenn Zahrt from Seattle, Washington to chat books and more! Together, the duo tackle a lot of ground, including: decoding planetary magic; Vedic astrology; the Plutonian elements of a famous TV reboot; Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions; planetary cancellation conditions; finding the least worst astrology; ritual and timing recipes; Jupiter in Gemini and Lemminkäinen; myth knowledge and cultural exploration; barycenters; astrology as an access point to philosophy, science, psychology, divinities, literature, and more; citing your sources; observational astronomy; telescopes and theodolites; images of synodic cycles; Dark Moon Lilith; and getting comfortable with not knowing. Plus: Twin Peaks, the “Gideon” ephemeris, and… it’s the water! Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded June 2024): 00:31 – Travis Black is a Seattle-based astrologer, magician, and bodyworker with shamanic tendencies. As a student and practitioner of the occult for 30 years, his decades-long private practice has been informed by initiations into traditions such as Western Esotericism, Hermetic Qabalah, Gnosticism, British Folk Magic, New Thought, Taoism, Tantra, Yoga, and Shamanism. He is currently a psychotherapist-in-training researching occult interventions for mental health, and he’s also an advocate for the rights and dignity of sex workers. He aims to integrate mental health care with alternative healing modalities to provide services to the community at the highest level. 02:11 – Travis initially went searching for a book on how planets can open portals (thanks, Twin Peaks!), and so his first astrology book was Planetary Magick: Invoking and Directing the Powers of the Planets by Melita Denning and Osborne Phillips. 06:35 – A throwback to the OG! If Travis could bring only three books to a desert island, his first choice would be a deep dive into Book V of Carmen Astrologicum by Dorotheus of Sidon, (which you can find translated by Benjamin Dykes or David Pingree). Travis finds this treatise on electional astrology so important that he returns to it every year. Also, perhaps with good timing techniques, Travis could generate a rescue effort off the island! 13:04 – Interlude: Join CAELi and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!) 13:50 – Travis’s second text is MythAstrology: Exploring Planets & Pantheons by Raven Kaldera. Travis loves how this one gives him room to dream, instead of feeling confined by chart configurations. 22:46 – The third title that Travis references is not quite nailed down yet, but it would be something related to observational astrology or an in-depth book on teaching oneself astronomy, because he wants to work more deeply with this topic. (Other books mentioned here are Progressions & Directions by Charles Jayne, and Tables of Planetary Phenomena Paperback by Neil F. Michelsen with revisions by Rique Pottenger and illustrated by Maria Kay Simms.) 30:20 – For beginners, Travis recommends Astrology for Yourself: How to Understand and Interpret Your Own Birth Chart by Demetra George and Douglas Bloch and You Were Born for This: Astrology for Radical Self-Acceptance by Chani Nicholas. 32:50 – Find Travis at his website: https://bathhousemystic.com/. You can also find him everywhere on social @bathhousemystic. 33:17 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write...

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050 | Drew Levanti: Life, Death, & the Journey of the Soul

6/17/2024
Astrologer and educator Drew Levanti joins host Jenn Zahrt from San Francisco, California to touch base about astrology (and non-astrology) books! The pair cover a lot of ground, including: following Jupiter lines in hindsight; jumping into the deep end of the book pool; the presence of a chorus of ancestors and a loosing of the bond; how elements can mix in different proportions; letting the silence fill us; how 9/11 transformed ideologies around death; coming apart and coming together; death charts as the birth of the afterlife; time twins; termination versus inception; the Orphic Hymns; the importance of remembering the soul discourse; and a bounty of cemetery stories. Plus: tightrope walkers, shell mounds and the Albany Bulb, and… a tender story about organ donation! Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded May 2024): 00:31 – Drew Levanti is a consulting astrologer and mystical educator based in San Francisco. A carrier of the Orphic lineage, he shares the understanding that life infinitely invites us into godly presence. This drives his teaching, spanning astrology fundamentals, elections, and the magic of the Orphic Hymns. In Drew’s client practice, dialogue is collaborative, fueled by astropoetic interpretation that is realistic, strategic, and affirming of a free-will world. 02:31 – If Drew could bring only three books to a remote location, his first choice would be Let the Great World Spin by Colum McCann. This novel holds special meaning for Drew – and the tightrope-walking metaphor is apt for his life path! (And the movie Man on Wire is also recommended!) 06:44 – Jenn and Drew put the car in reverse, and take a step back to discuss Drew’s journey into astrology, which included Chris Brennan’s Hellenistic Astrology: The Study of Fate and Fortune. Drew dove into the deep end with his first astrology book, at a time when he was simultaneously watching YouTube videos on modern astrology. 08:23 – Interlude: Join CAELi and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!) 09:09 – The second title that Drew would bring is The Presocratic Philosophers: A Critical History with a Selection of Texts by G. S. Kirk, J. E. Raven, and M. Schofield. This book is important to Drew because it propelled his research into Orphism. 17:24 – Drew’s third selection is American Afterlives: Reinventing Death in the Twenty-First Century by Shannon Lee Dawdy. Drew finds this one important because it examines the shifting idea of death in modern times. 25:24 – Drew also gives a shout-out to a touching book that covers the concept of the death chart as told from one astrologer’s personal bereavement, Star Sisters: An Astrologer's Memoir of Twin Loss by Linda “Moonrabbit” Zlotnick. (And stay tuned: Zlotnick is writing a new, groundbreaking book on death charts which will be published in the near future!) 32:20 – For beginners, Drew recommends Astrology and the Authentic Self: Integrating Traditional and Modern Astrology to Uncover the Essence of the Birth Chart and Ancient Astrology in Theory and Practice: A Manual of Traditional Techniques (especially Volume 1!) – both are by Demetra George. 35:06 – Find Drew at his website: https://archeastrology.com/. Or connect with him on Instagram: @anthrosophist. 38:17 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work...

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049 | Heather Roan Robbins: Cracking Star Codes

6/10/2024
Astrologer and author Heather Roan Robbins joins host Jenn Zahrt from Ronan, Montana! Lend your ears as these two pals connect about books and more, including: the pattern and rhythm of the natal chart; Llewellyn George, founder of the first Portland School of Astrology; worldwide myths and fairy tales as an intro to the cosmos; choice-based astrology; how you can’t escape your chart, but you can evolve it; planetary handoffs and the relay race of the birth chart; third house struggles; lived, direct planetary experience and learning; the importance of knowing how to draw a chart; the evolution of astrology; myths, repetition, and iterations of the same pattern; and celestial remedies, paths, and lessons. Plus: potato stamps, telephone operators masquerading as astrologers, and... Heather's new book drops on June 11! Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded May 2024): 00:31 – Heather Roan Robbins, M.Th., is a ceremonialist and practical, intuitive, choice-oriented astrologer and palmist with over 40 years' experience. She has an active online astrology practice, writes a weekly astrological column called "Starcodes," and is the author of Moon Wisdom, Everyday Palmistry, Starcodes Astro Oracle: A 56-Card Deck and Guidebook, and the soon-to-be-released Starcodes: Navigate Your Chart with Choice-Based Astrology. 01:05 – Heather began reading about astrology at age 14, and her first astrology book was A To Z Horoscope Maker and Delineator by Llewellyn George. Big high-five for the fascinating telephone operator story! 04:46 – If Heather were in the middle of nowhere, which three books would she bring? Her first choice is the obscure Planets in Containment: A Study of 990 Combinations by John Sandbach and Ronn Ballard. This text offers delineations of every planet by considering what planet is on either side throughout the chart! This one taught Heather a new way to understand the planetary flow of the birth chart. 09:22 – The second title that Heather would bring is Postcolonial Astrology: Reading the Planets through Capital, Power, and Labor by Alice Sparkly Kat. This challenging and delicious perspective pushes Heather’s brain farther – something she often seeks out! 10:19 – Heather’s third selection is Secrets of Predictive Astrology: Improve the Scope of Your Forecasts Using William Frankland's Techniques by Anthony Louis. Although she hasn’t read it in full yet, this new-ish text seems intelligent and accessible, and Heather appreciates Louis’s approach. 11:24 – Interlude: Join CAELi and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!) 12:11 – The books and authors that have influenced Heather the most (which are different than the books she would bring) include: Liz Greene, Howard, Sasportas, Alan Oken, Arielle Guttman, and texts on evolutionary astrology. One specific title that really pushed Heather is MythAstrology: Exploring Planets & Pantheons by Raven Kaldera; she loves how this one challenged her to think of the position of a planet in a broader, more mythic way! 15:04 – Exciting! On June 11, Heather’s latest book will be released: Starcodes: Navigate Your Chart with Choice-Based Astrology. Starcodes is designed to give folks a clear entrance ramp into astrology. (And check out Heather’s card deck, too: Starcodes Astro Oracle: A 56-Card Deck and Guidebook.) 18:20 – Heather would also suggest two other books for beginners: The Inner Sky by Steven Forrest, and the previously mentioned A To Z Horoscope Maker and Delineator. 24:48 –...

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048 | Dana Conner: “In for the Ride of Your Life!”

6/3/2024
Astrologer and herbalist Dana Conner joins host Jenn Zahrt from Palm Springs, California to cover books and more! Tune in as Dana and Jenn chat about: being the author of your own destiny; wise words regarding temperament from Dr. Lee Lehman; how our charts are where we start, not where we finish; herbalism and spagyrics; prediction and zodiacal releasing; timelines and publication histories; career changes and cosmic insight; doing research at CAELi, yay!; Thea Anderson on the astrology of convict leasing in Sugar Land, TX; a question about mundane astrology, answered; and “the REAL only astrology book you actually will ever need,” lol! Plus: copious fun facts, Scorpio lore, and… mothers of the astrologers for the win! Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded May 2024): 00:31 – Dana Conner is an astrology enthusiast, whose professional career started as a production makeup artist and pop-up mystical arts shop in San Diego. Years later, using zodiacal releasing timing, she started a totally new career; today, she is a Director of Contracts at a communications technology firm in San Diego, CA. While her current profession isn’t related to the field of astrology, she applies her occupational craft in the way she reads charts – like a contract. Dana’s current interest is the astrology techniques used in spagyrics, while always watching for patterns to time her next breakthrough. 01:00 – Astrology entered Dana’s life through newspaper horoscope columns (#Scorpio)! She then started picking up astrological texts, including Linda Goodman’s Love Signs. 04:37 – If Dana were stranded on a deserted island, the first book she would pack would be The Illustrated Picatrix, translated by John Michael Greer and Christopher Warnock. Dana hopes that this one will help get her off the island! 06:01 – The second title that Dana would bring is the massive Green Mysteries: An Occult Herbarium by Daniel Schulke. This book would help teach Dana about plant life on the island, and perhaps help pave the way if healing is needed. 06:51 – Dana’s third selection is Temperament: Astrology's Forgotten Key by Dorian Gieseler Greenbaum. This text is related to medical astrology and would help Dana understand health aspects and key personality characteristics. 10:33 – Sneaking in a fourth book, with a titan from another era! Dana gives a hat tip to The Scope of Astrological Prediction: An Introduction to the Dynamic Horoscopy by Marc Edmund Jones. Will this one help predict when the rescue boat will arrive? One can only hope! (And Jones’s Essentials of Astrological Analysis and Horary Astrology also make the list.) 17:43 – As a bonus, Dana also mentions the Celestial Arts Education Library’s new journal, The CAELi Review! This full-color quarterly journal is packed with interesting articles, including Thea Anderson’s excellent “The Imperial 95: An Astrological Excavation of Convict Leasing in Sugar Land, Texas.” And listen to Thea on Episode 1 of Within Orb: Thea Anderson: Making the Mundane Magical! (Note: CAELi members receive The CAELi Review quarterly print journal as part of their membership – woot!) 21:45 – Interlude: Join CAELi and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!) 22:31 – For beginners, Dana’s recommendations include: Planets in Transit by Robert Hand, The Essential Guide to Practical Astrology by April Elliott Kent, and The Only Astrology Book You'll Ever Need by Joanna Martine Woolfolk. Also, as a student in Jenn’s intensive beginners’ class, Dana...

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047 | Hawk Grubb: A Web of Harmony & Attunement

5/27/2024
Astrologer and magician Hawk Grubb joins host Jenn Zahrt from Portland, Oregon in a unique not-books book chat! Set your books aside (mostly), and tune in for the punk episode, including: astrology as a harmonizing framework; divination and how music helps absorb star stuff; getting the thinking brain out of the way; learning about others via your own natal chat; being a patron versus being a participant; books as ossified conversations; the friendship lineage; learning together, not top-down; plant alchemy; stories of Apollo and Asclepius; fixed stars; and the Orphic Hymns. Plus: beautiful dandelions, the Myth of Er, and… remember MySpace?? Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded May 2024): 00:31 – Hawk Grubb is a magician, diarist, and professional astrologer/magical mentor living in the Pacific Northwest. In another life you’d have found them delivering prophecy, bent over the cracks in the cave floor at Pytho. In this life, you can find them doing the same thing, but like, on the computer. 01:07 – How did Hawk get into astrology? Magic, music, and tarot helped on that front; they found astrology a great framework for understanding reality. But also, Hawk lived near Adam Elenbaas and his future wife Ashley’s yoga studio and wound up studying with Adam! (Listen to Adam in Episode 25, Adam Elenbaas: On Daily Practice, Devotion, Divination, & Donation.) 10:26 – Hawk shares how to get into astrology as a newbie and Chris Brennan’s advice to them back in the day. Oh, and if you have a 9th house Leo Moon, you’re in good company! 15:04 – Interlude: Join CAELi and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!) 15:51 – Hawk explains “the friendship lineage,” and the beauty of teaching and learning while communing with others. Less like a ladder and more like a web – woot! 20:40 – Book alert! Yep, the duo snuck a few titles into this no-book book talk: both The Symposium and The Republic by Plato get a mention, as does Utopia by Sir Thomas More. 22:41 – Tune in to hear about plant alchemy! (And check out Jenn’s dandelion article, Controversy and Conversion: Astrological Considerations for Potent Herbal Workings.) 25:49 – Hawk’s shares a story of Apollo! 29:05 – Bernadette Brady’s fixed star tip, and a brief trip to the Orphic Hymns. 36:16 – Find Hawk at their website: hawkstrology.com. On Instagram you can find them: @hawkstrology. 34:49 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks! Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

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046 | Issachar Bey: Busting Through the Stars!

5/20/2024
Astrologer, author, and podcaster Issachar Bey joins host Jenn Zahrt from San Antonio, Texas to chat books and more! This wide-ranging conversation brings you within orb of oodles of star stuff, including: Uranian astrology; how the glyphs have meaning; the Trans-Neptunian “planets”; geodetic astrology, relocated charts, and making your Jupiter line come to you; significators and dispositorship; the cheat code to life; blending Sabian symbols with various levels of progression; holographic transits and pattern returns; the idea of mapping out the degree-symbol systems; astro-theology; and using the Capricorn ingress. All that, plus: coming out of the star closet, using astrology to win, and… can we bring a Kindle and a charger to the deserted island?? Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded May 2024): 00:31 – Issachar Bey is the founder and spiritual director of the Temple of Enlightenment International Spiritual Center. The author of four books, Issachar is also a minister, life strategist, and radio and podcast host. Issachar has spent over 20 years advising people around the world with consultations personally designed to assist them in creating their own reality using his Manifestation Methodology. The Temple of Enlightenment International Spiritual Center is a global community dedicated to teaching New Thought Ageless Wisdom – recognizing, honoring, and nurturing the dignity and uniqueness of all people. 06:12 – Issachar’s first astrology book was recommended by his teacher: Alan Oken's Complete Astrology: The Classic Guide to Modern Astrology. This one is like a Bible to Issachar; he loves the way Oken breaks everything down from A to Z. And amazingly, both Jenn and Issachar took parallel tracks and were studying the same book in the late 1990s! (To hear Jenn’s episode, check out Episode 39, Jenn Zahrt: For the Love of Astrology (Books)!) The duo also takes a quick side trip to a great beginner book: The Only Way to Learn Astrology by Joan McEvers and Marion March. 08:03 – If Issachar were stranded on a deserted island, which texts would he bring? His first pick is The Language of Uranian Astrology by Roger A. Jacobson. This one keeps him sharp, and new readings always bring new insights! 11:05 – The second title that Issachar would bring is Geodetic Astrology for Relocating and World Affairs by Chris McRae. He finds this one phenomenal, and loves the world maps. (Nick Campion’s The Book of World Horoscopes also gets a mention!) 15:51 – Interlude: Join CAELi and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!) 16:37 – Issachar’s third selection is volume 21 in Jean-Baptiste Morin’s series, Astrologia Gallica: The Morinus System of Horoscope Interpretation, which has been translated many times. The way that Morin breaks down a chart and how to interpret it is incredibly helpful. (The Rules of Chart Interpretation by Rod Suskin also gets a nod by Jenn here, as it’s based on Morin’s work.) 20:50 – Issachar has many runners-up, including: Christian Astrology by William Lilly, Vocations: The New Midheaven Extension Process by Noel Tyl, the Dial Detective by Maria Kay Simms, and Abu Ma'shar Al-Balkhi’s Persian Nativities IV: On the Revolutions of the Years of Nativities (translated by Benjamin Dykes). Issachar also likes anything by Alphee Lavoie, Anthony Louis, Stephen Arroyo, or Robert Blaschke. And the casino story highlighting Winning!! Zodiacal Timing by Joyce Wehrman was a winner! 30:40 – Find Issachar on Instagram @IssacharBey, or on...

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045 | Ko Hashiguchi: The Four Pillars in Chinese Astrology

5/13/2024
Astrologer and author Ko Hashiguchi joins host Jenn Zahrt from Tacoma, Washington, sharing his expertise in Chinese astrology along with a mini lesson on the Four Pillars! Ko also offers a unique perspective on desert island books, as the two cover lots of ground: Taoism philosophy; Plato’s concept of same and other; the work of Robert Schmidt and Eudoxus of Cnidus; which planets represent a transcendental Sun, Moon, and Mercury; 518,400 ways to combine a solar year, month, day, and hour; why Western zodiac signs and Chinese animals should be regarded as the same; the five Chinese elements; the time lord system in Jyotish astrology; Ptolemy’s Ages of Man; why physical books will never be obsolete; and the spoken word as the living word. Plus: He-Man and the Masters of the Universe, a second childhood, and the beauty of turning 60! Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded April 2024): 00:31 – Ko Hashiguchi has been studying Chinese astrology since 1986, and Western astrology since 1992. Ko programs his own research software, runs the YouTube channel Radical Skies, and has animation credits in the Disney features “Hercules” and “Tarzan.” Ko has lectured at the 2002 UAC and the 2003 NORWAC conferences. Ko has two gender identities: Ko is he/him, and Francine Gee is she/her. 03:19 – Ko’s first astrology book was The Way to Chinese Astrology: The Four Pillars of Destiny by Jean-Michel Huon de Kermadec and translated by Derek Poulsen. At first, Ko thought astrology was nonsense! But then he entered the world of Chinese astrology and began shifting his view. 05:11 – If Ko were stranded on Obstruction Island (in San Juan County, Washington), he’d bring a stack of spiral notebooks and write his own texts! The first one he’d tackle would be an extension of Schmidt’s interpretation of Eudoxus. 10:17 – For Ko’s second writing assignment, he’d examine the Four Pillars in Chinese astrology. Specifically, this book would be full of examples of famous people and how the Four Pillars explain why people behave the way they do. 12:16 – Tune in for a mini-lesson on the Four Pillars! 15:07 – Next, Ko would put pen to paper and turn the Ptolemaic Ages of Man into a four-level timelord system! 16:48 – Join the CAELi Institute to attend the next Significant Sources Salon hosted by Dr. James Dotson! Last week we had a blast discussing Ficino’s Three books on Life. Next month we get into medical astrology with Joseph Blagrave’s Astrological Practice of Physick. 19:51 – Ko has a fourth book idea, too! Referencing his previously mentioned idea about philosophically extending the planets, Ko’s next text would add a twist, exploring how science doesn’t override history, morality/religion, philosophy, or astrology. (And check out Ko’s two books coming out through Revelore Press – Jenn’s publishing company – in July 2024!) 23:12 – For beginners, Ko recommends: listening to the lectures of Robert Schmidt; diving into the Jyotish astrological tome Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra (the Girish Chand Sharma edition); and – for learning Chinese astrology – reading Ko’s own upcoming instructional textbook on the Four Pillars. 24:49 – Find Ko on his YouTube channel: Radical Skies. And Francine (Ko’s feminine alter ego) will also be at NORWAC in May 2024, so say hello! 26:07 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi...

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044 | Sarah L’Hrar: Karma, Kabbalistics, and Learning Astrology in Yr Sleep

5/6/2024
Astrologer and teacher Sarah L’Hrar joins host Jenn Zahrt from Montreal, Québec in Canada to cover books, imaginary BFF authors, and more! Tune in to hear all about: astral themes and evolutionary possibility; the roots of karmic astrology; Mars-ing all over someone (oops!); “minor” aspects; humanistic astrology; astrological osmosis and receiving authors’ personality in textual form; words as beautiful access points to something more; the perfect birth chart aspect for an astrologer; Kabbalistic astrology; the coolest Middle Ages rock-and-roll astro dude; the beans and rice of books!; and the Yod formation. Plus: know thyself (then duck!), the Nixon administration, and falling in friendship! Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded April 2024): 00:31 – Sarah L’Hrar is a consulting astrologer, teacher, and counselor who specializes in modern humanistic and psychological astrology. She is a master mentor at Debra Silverman’s Applied Astrology School, as well as the Global Director for ISAR (the International Society for Astrological Research) in Canada. Her nickname “Astro Auntie” was coined by her students and clients as a nod to her supportive, compassionate, and straightforward relating style. 00:52 – Sarah began learning astrology by reading the horoscopes in the back of Elle magazine! But the first astrology book she ever purchased was a French title, Les Trois Dimensions de Votre Thème Astral by Patrick Giani. This was a great intro to star stuff, where Giani covers three levels of expression and health. (Sarah and Jenn also chat about Karmic Astrology, Vol. I & II by Martin Schulman!) 09:39 – If Sarah were stranded on a desert island, which books would she bring? First up: Michael Meyer’s A Handbook for the Humanistic Astrologer. This text takes the theoretical ideas of Dane Rudhyar and offers them through a practical lens. (Cool that Jenn had selected this title, too, in Episode 39, Jenn Zahrt: For the Love of Astrology (Books)!) 13:48 – The author-related Venn diagram between Sarah and Jenn continues: Sarah’s second choice is Alan Oken’s Soul-Centered Astrology: A Key to Your Expanding Self. Sarah likes how this one takes her places she wouldn’t go by herself, flips the script, and keeps her flexible! 18:16 – Join the Significant Sources Salon hosted by Dr. James Dotson starting THIS WEEK at the CAELi Institute! Prepare to discuss Ficino’s Three books on Life! 19:58 – Sarah’s third book choice is The Beginning of Wisdom by Abraham Ibn Ezra, edited by Robert Hand and translated by Meira Epstein. A lot of Sarah’s personal introduction to the cosmos was via Kabbalistic astrology, and therefore this text makes the list! (She also piles on The Book of Nativities and Revolutions by the same three folks.) 26:48 – Pasta, anyone? Sarah’s recommendations for beginners include: Planets in Transit: Life Cycles for Living by Robert Hand; Planetary Symbolism in the Horoscope by Karen Hamaker-Zondag; Chart Interpretation Handbook: Guidelines for Understanding the Essentials of the Birth Chart by Stephen Arroyo (and Astrology Karma & Transformation, also by Arroyo); and last but not least (and adding to the Sarah/Jenn crossover), Alan Oken's Complete Astrology: The Classic Guide to Modern Astrology. 35:28 – Find Sarah at: https://www.astroauntie.com/. On social, her handle is @AstroAuntie. She also teaches over at Debra Silverman’s Applied Astrology School! 36:03 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow...

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043 | Jean Eon: In the (Virtual) Stars!

4/29/2024
Astrologer, musician, artist, and filmmaker Jean Eon beams in from North Carolina to connect with host Jenn Zahrt about the upcoming astrological virtual reality event at the Astrohut on May 12th! The two also chat about books and more, including: getting outside the box; when descriptions of the signs line up accurately; how there is more to reality than we know; nonstandard experiences with spiritual overtones; creating calm out of chaos; contradictions in astrology; intuition versus rationality; footnotes as a map to mini library encounters; Vedic astrology; and vehicles for connection and conversation in 3D. Plus: The Lawnmower Man, falling into the twelfth house, and… what do Ben Franklin and Mary Poppins have in common? Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded April 2024): 00:31 – Jean Eon is an astrologer, musician, artist, and filmmaker with a history of startup endeavors. His new project is the Astrohut, a virtual reality space for meeting people while exploring astrology. Jean is also fond of architecture – from David Adjaye and Zaha Hadid to Santiago Calatrava and MAD architects – as well as drawing and digitally simulating cities from a “nation” he created as a teen, which landed him a role as a contributor to Harvard’s Graduate School of Design publication New Geographies. Jean enjoys marathon raves, travel, languages (both real and made-up), and experimentation across different mediums. 00:50 – Learn about the upcoming virtual reality event at the Astrohut (and join Jenn and CAELi in the virtual courtyard)! Learn more on Instagram, TikTok, and Twitter/X: @TheAstrohut. 04:16 – Jean’s first astrology book – Sexstrology: The Astrology of Sex and the Sexes by Stella Starsky and Quinn Cox – arrived while WWOOFing” (World Wide Opportunities on Organic Farms) outside of San Francisco. Fittingly, he was beginning a first house profection year! 06:58 – If Jean were stranded in an isolated place, which three books would he bring? Noting that two of them would be astrology-adjacent, his first selection is The Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramahansa Yogananda, because this one showed him there is much more to reality than we know! 11:46 – Jean’s second choice is quasi-spiritual; on the surface it’s practical, but really it’s a metaphor for sitting with the self. The title? Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig. 17:06 – Join the Significant Sources Salon hosted by Dr. James Dotson at the CAELi Institute! 17:54 – Let’s go fly a kite! Jean’s third text is The Astrology Book: The Encyclopedia of Heavenly Influences by James R. Lewis. This tome is one he hasn’t read yet, but thinking ahead, he wonders if perhaps it could help him escape the island! 20:41 – Jean recommendations for beginners include two that would help orient newbies to understand history and its significance: Hellenistic Astrology: The Study of Fate and Fortune by Chris Brennan and both volumes of Ancient Astrology in Theory and Practice: A Manual of Traditional Techniques by Demetra George. Also, he’s very curious to read Freedom Cole’s An Introduction to Vedic Astrology; Jenn concurs that this is an accessible textbook worth exploring. (Listen to Freedom in episode 22, Freedom Cole: Learning & Synthesizing!) 30:37 – Jean can be found on social media: on Instagram @NowIsTheEon and @TheAstrohut; on Twitter/X @_JeanEon_ and @TheAstrohut; and on TikTok @TheAstrohut. 31:10 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow...

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042 | Gray Crawford: A Fiery Altar of Zodiacal Releasing

4/22/2024
Astrologer and teacher Gray Crawford is partile to host Jenn Zahrt this week! Join the Olympia, Washington almost-neighbors, as they chat about books and more, including: Kairos time and Chronos time; the Lots of Daimon and Fortune; theurgy and astrological magic; zodiacal releasing; layers of determinism versus cosmic creation as participatory; the idea of astrological transformation; the birth chart as an altar; secondary progressed-to-progressed combinations; archetypal timing structures; how to talk to clients; eclipse families, the Saros cycle, and midpoint theory; and parans and projected degrees. Plus: gateway books, astrological piano scarves, and … which ephemeris would you bring? Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded March 2024): 00:31 – Gray is a natal, horary, and electional astrologer and teacher. He offers a relational approach using techniques drawn from ancient and modern sources, synthesizing influences from Hellenistic, magical, mythic-archetypal, and psychological astrology. Gray has taught at UAC, NORWAC, and ISAR astrology conferences, Kepler College, and various astrology associations around the USA. His astrological writing has been published on Astrology.com, in WellBeing Astrology, and by Ignota Press. Contact Gray at his site and check out his astrology articles, educational offerings, and more! 00:51 – It’s the week of dancers and dreamers! Gray’s first astrology text ever was The Secret Language of Birthdays: Your Complete Personology Guide for Each Day of the Year by Gary Goldschneider and Joost Elffers, which fascinated him at the time. Later, he dug into The Only Astrology Book You’ll Ever Need by Joanna Woolfolk. 04:39 – If Gray were to be stranded on a desert island, which books would he bring? His first choice is On the Mysteries by Iamblichus, because he’d finally have time to read the whole book cover-to-cover! 10:20 – With some natal chart overlap, Gray has always resonated with Dane Rudhyar’s writing. Therefore, his second choice is Rudhyar’s The Astrology of Transformation. 15:34 – Join the Significant Sources Salon hosted by Dr. James Dotson at the CAELi Institute! 16:21 – Gray’s third title would be Vettius Valens’s The Anthology, because there’s so much in it! But this was a difficult pick, so Gray also gives a hat tip to: Cosmos and Psyche: Intimations of a New World View by Richard Tarnas; Christian Astrology by William Lilly; and Abu Ma’shar’s Persian Nativities IV: On the Revolutions of the Years of Nativities, translated by Benjamin Dykes. (And the very cool zodiacal releasing research tool that Jenn references can be found at: https://nataltransits.com/timelord.html.) 21:04 – For beginners, Gray considered which books he’d buy his daughter. With that in mind, enjoy this wonderful and comprehensive list: Astrology: Using the Wisdom of the Stars in Your Everyday Life by Carole Taylor; Aspects in Astrology: A Guide to Understanding Planetary Relationships in the Horoscope by Sue Tompkins; Soul, Symbol, and Imagination: The Artistry of Astrology by Brian Clark; The Classical Seven Planets: Source Texts and Meaning by Charles Obert; Predictive Astrology: The Eagle and the Lark by Bernadette Brady; A Tiny Universe: Astrology and the Thema Mundi Chart by Joy Usher; and Temperament: Astrology’s Forgotten Key by Dorian Greenbaum. 27:10 – Find Gray at: https://graycrawford.net/. And check out his Patreon here! 28:48 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow...

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041 | Tara Aal: Living Planets First

4/15/2024
Astrologer, teacher, author, artist, and tarot reader Tara Aal joins host Jenn Zahrt from Los Angeles, California to chat books, and shares an incredible mini-lesson on “planets on the first.” In this ep, the duo also offers food for thought on: letting the story come through; the difference between learning together and teaching; spirit versus soul; the gifts to each sign; the way through and tests on our journey; the signs in the natal chart as an apprenticeship; how the season of birth impacts life; getting lost 360 different ways; and astrological magic and planet remediation. Plus: letting the devil out of the cake, a goosebump moment, and… our first must-have book that’s offered thanks to a previous guest’s recommendation! Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded March 2024): 00:31 – Tara Aal is an evolutionary astrologer, writer, educator, artist, and tarot reader. She’s the co-author of Astrology by Moonlight and Natural Astrology. Tara’s been practicing since 2011 and sees clients, teaches, and speaks (including NORWAC, UAC, Kepler College, and ISAR). She’s passionate about experiential astrology, including the practice called Living Planets 1st. Tara currently serves on the International Society for Astrological Research (ISAR) Board as Vice President. 01:51 – Tara’s first astrology book – The Only Astrology Book You’ll Ever Need by Joanna Martine Woolfolk – was gifted to her by her boss during a performance review around the time of her first Saturn Return! About ten years later, she signed up for an astrology program and really dug in. 05:36 – If Tara accidentally got off the plane on the wrong island in the Bahamas, which books would she bring? First up: The Planets Within: The Astrological Psychology of Marsilio Ficino by Thomas Moore. Tara enjoyed this one so much that she wound up signing up for Moore’s Soul Psychology courses and is a current student of his! And thanks to Adam Sommer, who mentioned this text on episode 10; how cool to have our first must-have book mention based on a previous episode!! 10:58 – Tara’s second text would be An Astrological Triptych: Gifts of the Spirit, The Way Through, and The Illumined Road by Dane Rudhyar. This is a much-needed reference book for Tara! 17:14 – Join the Significant Sources Salon, hosted by Dr. James Dotson at the CAELi Institute! 18:01 – Tara’s third title would be An Astrological Mandala: The Cycle of Transformations and its 360 Symbolic Phases, also by Rudhyar. Tara keeps this one handy during readings, for those intuitive moments when she feels called to look up a degree symbol. (A high five also goes to The Sabian Symbols in Astrology by Marc Edmond Jones.) 20:32 – Tune in for Tara’s teaching on “Living Planets 1st,” complete with examples. (Hi, Mars!) 29:15 – As a big Rudhyar fan, Tara’s recommendations are two more in the collection: The Pulse of Life: New Dynamics in Astrology and The Astrological Houses: The Spectrum of Individual Experience. To find Rudhyar’s (free!) works, the Rudhyar link that Jenn and Tara reference is here. 30:35 – Find Tara at: https://www.taraaal.com/. And her handle on Instagram is @TaraAal. 31:22 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks! Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

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040 | Mark Douglas: Surfing the Energy Curve

4/8/2024
Astrologer and coach Mark Douglas joins host Jenn Zahrt from Prince Edward Island in Canada to chat books and more! Tune in for this discussion covering: astrological dream osmosis; the Huber method; the life clock method and a mini-lesson on age progression; the energy curve as accidental dignity; golden mean, balance points, and low points; using natal astrology to look at neighbor relationships; when the age point migrates from the fifth house to the sixth house; how the immovable nature of Pluto forces you to face your prototype; the practicality of horary; and derived houses. Plus: transits as an afterthought, how Pluto and Saturn keep us honest, and when the dog eats your astrology book! Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded March 2024): 00:31 – Mark is from Prince Edward Island, Canada. He is a student of astrology and obtained his diploma in Huber astrological psychology from the APA in 2018 (Dipl. APA). Additionally, he pursued John Frawley’s horary practitioner course from 2019 to 2023. Mark currently serves on the Association Professional Astrologers International (APAI) council and is an active member of the Atlantic Professional Astrologers Association. A practicing psychosynthesis and grief coach, Mark has been operating the Huber Astrological Psychosynthesis school since 2023, offering a comprehensive diploma program in Huber astrology. 02:00 – Mark’s first astrology book was The Illustrated Guide to Astrology: The Key to Understanding Human Destiny by Wynne Griffon. As a tween, Mark’s parents gifted him this massive text, which sent him on quite an astrological safari! 08:18 – If Mark were stuck on a desert island, which titles would he bring? Mark and Jenn first discuss the upcoming book by Becca Tarnas, The Soul of the Cosmos, because the divinity nature speaks to him. Plus, as a Gemini Mark loves to pick a book he hasn’t read yet! 10:23 – Mark’s second text would be Astrological Psychology: The Huber Method, edited by Barry Hopewell. Mark deeply studied Huber astrology, and folks can get tons of mileage out of this one book. (And to see Mark’s video explaining when the age point migrates from the fifth house to the sixth house, visit his YouTube page. 17:04 – Join the Significant Sources Salon, hosted by Dr. James Dotson at the CAELi Institute! 26:16 – Mark studied under John Frawley, and therefore his third desert island book is Frawley’s The Horary Textbook, because he refers to this one often. It also satisfies his practical, earthy nature! 34:56 – Mark’s recommendations for people just starting their astro journey include: The Cosmic Egg Timer by Joyce Susan Hopewell, Richard Llewellyn, and Barry Hopewell (because it’s a great intro to the Huber method), and Frawley’s previously mentioned The Horary Textbook. 36:36 – Find Mark at: https://www.theseawithinyou.com/. And on Instagram, Mark’s handle is @theseawithinyou. 38:14 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks! Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

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039 | Jenn Zahrt: For the Love of Astrology (Books)!

4/1/2024
Surprise!!! CAELi's executive director Dr. Jenn Zahrt sits down in the hot seat with producer and guest host Jen Braun for an April Fools’ Day episode! In addition to founding the Celestial Arts Education Library, Jenn is an astrologer, author, publisher, poet, translator, and teacher. In this one-of-a-kind, personal interview, Jenn shares the significant life event that had her questioning her spirituality at a tender young age, and the history and mission of CAELi. Join the double Jennns as they chat about: rescuing multiple book collections; granular research into various editions of the same text; astrology as nouns and verbs; herbs, planets, and astrological medicine; how temperament fosters tolerance; writing daily horoscopes; the concept of beginner’s mind when learning astrology; the pencil-thin astrology book you didn’t know you needed; the importance of humanistic astrology; multiplicity in what many think of as “traditional astrology”; Liz Greene’s hidden gem; and fusing medieval astrology with solar arcs and midpoints. All that, plus: anthropological fantasies, eating jalapeños for anger, and… jam with us if you owned a Walkman, too! Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Feb. 2024): 00:31 – Dr. Jenn Zahrt, PhD is an author, publisher, and teacher of cultural astronomy and astrology. In 2022, she wrapped up a five-year jaunt as an Honorary Research Fellow at the Sophia Centre for the Study of Cosmology in Culture at the University of Wales Trinity Saint David. She is an Emerita Trustee of Kepler College and has just joined their faculty! She also serves on the Board of Directors for the International Society for Astrological Research (ISAR). Her publishing company, Revelore Press, has multiple books forthcoming, so stay tuned! Jenn founded the Celestial Arts Education Library in 2021, and curates over 10,000 volumes of astrological books, journals, and newsletters. Learn more about CAELi at: www.caeli.institute. 01:15 – Learn about the winding pathway that led Jenn to found CAELi, the rare volumes housed at the library, and discover why becoming a CAELi member is a win-win! (And the book that jumped off the shelf at Jenn back in the day was Der Geist der Astrologie or The Spirit of Astrology by Oscar A. H. Schmitz, which helped to get her book gears turning!) 11:13 – Hey, you! Yeah, you there, reading these show notes! Will you please help others find the show? It just takes a sec, so go ahead: rate Within Orb five stars, write a cute little review, follow the show in your favorite podcatcher, engage with us on YouTube, and/or buy that astrology book you’ve been craving over at bookshop.org. And thanks for listening – without you, we wouldn’t have a show! So, you rock. And roll! 13:26 – Want to sponsor a show on Within Orb? Let’s connect! Reach out at: podcast(at)withinorb(dot)com 14:14 – Jenn’s first astrology book was Alan Oken’s Complete Astrology: The Classic Guide to Modern Astrology. After being grounded as a teen, she headed to the bookstore to buy this title, along with an ephemeris (a now well-worn copy of The American Ephemeris for the 20th Century at Midnight by Neil F. Michelsen to be precise), an atlas for the Americas, an atlas for the rest of the world, and The Koch Book of Tables also by Neil F. Michelsen. Astrology and Alan were answering big questions in a satisfying way! (And thanks to high school teacher Gary Lorentzen for pointing Jenn in this direction; check out Episode 20, Gary Lorentzen: Astro-History, Language, & Measuring Time.) Early...

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038 | Tamaryn: Prisms on a Rogue Supernova

3/25/2024
Astrologer and musician Tamaryn joins host Jenn Zahrt from Half Moon Bay, California, to share about books, music, and more! Join the two for a conversation that covers: the heliacal rising star and setting star; locating your place in the universe; lightning bolt moments; the appearance of the new “star” in Cygnus; astrological magic; Uranus in Taurus and Gemini; the chart as (eyeball) art; how the optic nerve connects with the idea of translation of light; humans as fractals of light who are building consciousness; where astrology and the tree of life come together; and the acorn theory. Plus: The Little Prince, tactile immersion and transmission, and… the more you know, the more you know you don’t know! Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Feb. 2024): 00:31 – Tamaryn, a musical luminary in the dream pop, post-punk, and shoegaze worlds, now directs her gaze toward the stars. As the proprietor of Major Arcana in Half Moon Bay, she has practiced a multitude of divination styles for hundreds of clients over the years and crafts unique handmade magical items, ranging from talismanic jewelry to hand-dyed dresses reflecting the transits of the moment. 01:26 – Tamaryn’s first astrology book was the iconic Love Signs by Linda Goodman. Other titles that brought the concept of astrology into her life were The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, Palmistry for All by Cheiro, and Predictive Astrology: The Eagle and the Lark by Bernadette Brady. 06:22 – If Tamaryn were hovering in the constellation Cygnus and could only bring three books, what would they be? First up: Star and Planet Combinations by Bernadette Brady. This is a must-have; her own copy is tattered because she uses it so much! 08:19 – Tamaryn’s second book would be Three Books on Life by Marsilio Ficino. She has started reading this one and wants to finish it! It offers ideas about how to live, and about being part of the great world soul. 09:18 – Interlude: Join CAELi as a trial member and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!) 10:05 – Tamaryn’s third text is the Picatrix: A Medieval Treatise on Astral Magic translated by Dan Attrell and David Porreca. She is drawn to the specific astrological info on how to make talismans. Agrippa also gets a shout-out (deets below)! 15:35 – For people just starting their astro journey, Tamaryn’s recommends: Timaeus by Plato; Sefer Yetzirah (the W.W. Westcott version is the standard one often referenced in magical texts, but Tamaryn’s first version was an interpretation by famed scholar Manly P. Hall!); Prometheus the Awakener by Richard Tarnas; The Soul's Code: In Search of Character and Calling by James Hillman; for C. G. Jung’s writings on astrology, start with Liz Greene’s overview, Jung’s Studies in Astrology; Three Books of Occult Philosophy by Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa and translated by Eric Purdue; and last but not least, Brady’s previously mentioned Star and Planet Combinations. Get ready to break your book budget! 28:17 – Find Tamaryn’s music wherever you get your tunes! Or schedule a reading at: stargazer.as.me. And on Instagram, Tamaryn’s handles are @tamarynmusic and @shopmajorarcana. 28:48 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks! Show notes by Jen...

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037 | Gabriel Rosas: Astrology, Digestion, & Decipherment

3/18/2024
Astrologer Gabriel Rosas sits down with host Jenn Zahrt to chat books and more! Laugh and learn with these two friends as they cover: Project Hindsight; hermetic lots; the concept of time as nonstationary; breaking the modern spell of how the world exists; the lost delineation of the meaning behind each arc minute; how circumstances and conditions can force action; knowing our charts well; finding the teacher within; profections; and being under the beams of the Sun. Plus: true crime astrology, walking versus hiking, and… drink your water, people! Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Feb. 2024): 00:31 – Gabe Rosas has been studying traditional astrologies for over 20 years. He started with Robert Zoller’s medieval astrology course, and later became a pupil of Robert Schmidt at Project Hindsight. Gabe’s practice of Hellenistic astrology seeks to bring the wisdom and worldview of antiquity to people living in the modern world. Gabe spoke at the Northwest Astrology Conference (NORWAC) in 2023; if you see him at the upcoming NORWAC 2024, get within orb and say hi! 01:05 – Gabe’s first astrology book was Linda Goodman’s Sun Signs, which he found in the library as a kid. Later, after taking astrology more seriously, he read Horoscope Symbols by Robert Hand, which he found to be a considered, logical book on a complicated topic! (And a high five to Robert Zoller, one of Gabe’s teachers, and specifically the title The Lost Key to Prediction: The Arabic Parts in Astrology that Jenn mentioned!) 09:50 – If Gabe were trapped in an escape room, which books would he bring? First, Vettius Valens’s The Anthology is a must! Gabe finds much value in the way that Valens teaches through this text. 11:50 – Interlude: Join CAELi as a trial member and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!) 12:36 – Gabe’s second title would be Mathesis by Julius Firmicus Maternus, which has been translated into English by James Herschel Holden (AFA) and also Ben Dykes (Cazimi Press). Gabe finds that Firmicus includes pieces that are missing from Valens’s tome; they work well together! 21:55 – Gabe’s third book is Robert Schmidt’s out-of-print Definitions and Foundations, which is Schmidt’s reconstruction of fragments of Antiochus’s works scattered throughout other Hellenistic sources. This was Robert Schmidt’s last book, and the collation includes helpful comments related to his reconstruction of the original text. 28:05– Start at the beginning! Gabe’s recommendation is that beginners start with traditional astrology, and therefore points to Demetra George’s two-volume set Ancient Astrology in Theory and Practice: A Manual of Traditional Techniques. Other titles for folks new to astrology include On the Heavenly Spheres by Helena Avelar and Luis Ribeiro, as well as the previously mentioned works of Valens and Firmicus (but start with Valens). Want to read Schmidt’s Antiochus? Come to CAELi, where this hard-to-find text is waiting just for you!! 29:29 – Find Gabe at: https://www.gabrielrosasastrology.com/, and @gimelresh on social (Threads and X). 30:06 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks! Show notes by Jen Braun, JJ Boots Productions LLC.

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036 | Erica Jones: Plan(e)ting Archetypal Seeds

3/11/2024
Astrologer and teacher Erica Jones joins host Jenn Zahrt from Vashon Island, Washington for a conversation about books and more! Take the elevator to meet this duo, and hear about: archetypal astrology; how philosophy and astrology hold hands; the parable of two suitors; responding, not reacting; the thrill of discovery; Moon planting; delicate empiricism; Neptune as a place that’s not literal; how memory is a creative act; starting where what astrologers agree; and Mars-Pluto suggestions. Plus: the numinous, a mic drop moment, and… no mechanical metaphors allowed! Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Feb. 2024): 00:31 – Erica Jones is an astrologer, a teacher, and an intuitive engaged with metaphysics and consciousness studies since 2006, with a special emphasis on ecopsychology, astrology, and psycho-spiritual growth. The archetypal astrology of Richard Tarnas is her foundational astrological influence, and she enjoys frolicking among the many varieties of astrologies. Her latest work involves using the heart as an organ of perception to gather astrological knowledge from the anima mundi, moving beyond a two-dimensional contemplation of abstract star maps and into a multi-dimensional experience of the cosmos as a wild, living being brimming with intelligence and sentient beauty. 01:29 – Erica’s first astrology book was Cosmos and Psyche: Intimations of a New World View by Richard Tarnas. This tome was an awakening for Erica; she was supposed to read the first 50 pages for a college class, but wound up reading the whole thing! 10:45 – If Erica were stuck in an elevator at UAC 2012 (hah!), what three texts would she bring with her? First up: the previously mentioned Cosmos and Psyche, which is a dense gift that keeps on giving. 08:39 – Erica’s second title would be Astrological Gardening: The Ancient Wisdom of Successful Planting & Harvesting by the Stars by Louise Riotte (with a hat tip to Louise’s Secrets of Companion Planting for Successful Gardening). A well-deserved thanks to CAELi: Erica was a recent visitor and found a treasure trove of books on astrological gardening, which helped her write a professional column on the topic! (Other books mentioned: What Is Biodynamics?: A Way to Heal and Revitalize the Earth by Rudolf Steiner, Planetary Influences upon Plants: Cosmological Botany by Ernst M. Kranich, and The Metamorphosis of Plants by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.) 19:11 – Interlude: Join CAELi as a trial member and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!) 19:57 – Erica’s third text is The Astrological Neptune and the Quest for Redemption by Liz Greene; she finds it to be a thoughtful compilation of a visionary, and a text you can push back on when trying to pin down what Neptune means. 30:29 – Erica recommends several books for beginners: Aspects in Astrology: A Guide to Understanding Planetary Relationships in the Horoscope by Sue Tompkins; The Combination of Stellar Influences by Reinhold Ebertin (translated by Alfred G. Roosedale); and Astrology, Karma & Transformation by Stephen Arroyo. 39:25 – Find Erica at: https://www.realimaginal.com, or @realimaginalastrology on Instagram and Facebook. 40:44 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks! Show notes...

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035 | Nick Campion: Pockets Full of Starlight

3/4/2024
Join Professor Dr. Nick Campion from the breathtaking port city of Bristol as he shares his favorite books and more with our host Jenn Zahrt! Tune in to hear all about: the origin of Nick’s love of the stars; “living texts”; the importance of cross-citation and astrological lineages; history and mythology; the history of the Faculty of Astrological Studies in London; retrospective chart examples; the implications of time, space, and freedom; whether astrology always works; the idea of assemblages; and the importance of astrology for self-knowledge and personal change. Plus: the astro road show, Perry Como, and… is everything connected? We’re releasing this episode on his birthday, so Happy Birthday, Nick!! Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Feb. 2024): 00:31 – Dr. Nicholas Campion is one of the world’s leading historians of astrology. He teaches and writes about the history and culture of astronomy, astrology, cosmology, and utopian and millennial beliefs. He is the director of the Sophia Centre’s distance learning master’s program in cultural astronomy and astrology at the University of Wales Trinity Saint David. Nick has been decorated with countless awards, including the 1994 Marc Edmund Jones Award, the 1994 Prix Georges Antares Award, the 1999 Spica Award, the 2002 Charles Harvey Prize, and two Regulus Awards (2002 and 2012). He’s written multiple books, including the esteemed A History of Western Astrology, Volumes I & II, and our favorite astrological cookbook, Cosmic Cuisine (together with Tom Jaine in 1988). 02:32 – Hear Nick’s astrological beginnings, as he shares the first astrology book he ever read, The Origin of the Zodiac by Rupert Gleadow. Nick was 17 years old in 1970 when he found this title at a second-hand shop in Cambridge, England! 10:45 – If Nick were stuck in the dark sky park of Sark, the first book he’d pack would be Christian Astrology by William Lilly, because he’s been consulting this one a lot lately! Lilly’s work offers foundational points for modern astrology. It’s also helpful to be able to read it in the original language (English), as opposed to a translation. (Shout out to Sark in the Dark: Wellbeing and Community on the Dark Sky Island of Sark by Ada Blair, and Sky and Purpose in Prehistoric Malta: Sun, Moon, and Stars at the Temples of Mnajdra by Tore Lomsdalen, both “classics” according to Nick!) 18:31 – Interlude: Join CAELi as a trial member and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!) 19:18 – Nick’s second text he’d bring to the island of Sark is The Modern Text-Book of Astrology by Margaret Hone – one of the main teaching books in the English-speaking world from 1951 to the early 1970s, and the book that Nick learned astrology from! Hone’s text is focused on personality and establishes a psychologically oriented character description as important. (Enjoy the side trip to Teach Yourself Astrology by Jeff Mayo!) 25:23 – Nick’s third choice is Liz Greene’s seminal work Saturn: A New Look at an Old Devil, because Greene helped to develop the ideas of the planets and zodiac signs as processes. (Greene followed up on Dane Rudhyar’s work, so brush up on your dose of Rudhyar to better understand modern astrology!) Protip: CAELi members can meet with Dr James Dotson (Episode 6) to discuss Rudhyar’s work at CAELi’s new Significant Sources Salon; Rudhyar will be highlighted on November 13, 2024! 28:58 – For beginners, Nick recommends The Compleat Astrologer by Derek and Julia Parker (republished as The...

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034 | Michael J Morris: Emergent Astrologies & Feminist Studies

2/26/2024
Astrologer, tarot reader, writer, and educator Michael J Morris joins host Jenn Zahrt from Columbus, Ohio to dive into books, astrology, feminist science studies, and more! Join the PhD duo for a chat that includes: feminist theories; exploring connections not always apparent; the concept of meaning-making; scientific objectivity; the interrelationship between epistemology, ontology, ethics, and politics; quantum physics; how the only lasting truth is change; and emergent strategy. Plus: getting out of our head and into our body, the God trick, and… small is good!! Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, and YouTube. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band. ***** Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Feb. 2024): 00:31 – Michael is an astrologer, witch, tarot reader, dance artist, writer, and teacher. Michael has a consultation practice, is a teaching assistant for Kelly Surtees’s online courses, and is a guide in AFAN’s mentorship program (Association for Astrological Networking). They also write for the CHANI app, are a contributing artist and facilitator with Livable Futures, and teach in the Foundations in Embodied Ancestral Inquiry course. Michael holds a PhD in Dance Studies from The Ohio State University. Their astrology is rooted in Hellenistic traditions but is also shaped by feminist methods of thought. 03:09 – Michael’s first astrology book was Astrology: A Cosmic Science by Isabel M. Hickey. This text helped them begin to understand the complexity of the astrological tradition beyond Sun sign horoscopes in the newspaper! 06:24 – If Michael were stuck on a desert island, what books would they bring? Using two schools of thought, Michael’s astrology texts would include triple doses of Demetra George! But aside from Demetra’s Astrology and the Authentic Self: Integrating Traditional and Modern Astrology to Uncover the Essence of the Birth Chart and Ancient Astrology in Theory and Practice: A Manual of Traditional Techniques, Volumes I & II), Michael would expand the framework to look at feminist science studies. And in that view, they would first select an essay entitled, “Situated Knowledges: The Science Question in Feminism and the Privilege of Partial Perspective” by Donna Haraway (from the text Simians, Cyborgs, and Women: The Reinvention of Nature). 17:14 – Interlude: Join CAELi and snag yourself a Saturn stress-relief ball. (Yes, you read that right!) 18:02 – Michael’s second text is Meeting the Universe Halfway: Quantum Physics and the Entanglement of Matter and Meaning by Karen Barad. This one offers thoughtful questions – for example, exploring the idea that what something is (ontology) depends upon how we attempt to know it (epistemology). 27:05 – Michael’s third choice is Emergent Strategy: Shaping Change, Changing Worlds by adrienne maree brown. Exploring our relationship to change through a study of the more-than-human world, brown’s work is inspired by Octavia Butler’s Parable of the Sower and Parable of the Talents. 32:06 – For beginners, Michael suggests Chani Nicholas’s vibrant You Were Born for This: Astrology for Radical Self-Acceptance. Their next rec is the previously mentioned Ancient Astrology in Theory and Practice: A Manual of Traditional Techniques, Volumes I & II by Demetra George. You can build an astrological practice from the ground up, simply using these three texts! 34:56 – Find Michael at their website: https://www.michaeljmorris.co/. And on social, their Instagram handle is @cowitchcraftofferings. 37:00 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or...

Duration:00:37:42