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This podcast looks into the minds of cutting-edge and innovative doctors. You won't find these stories in any medical textbook. You're getting real, live insight from men and women pushing the envelope beyond medicine.

This podcast looks into the minds of cutting-edge and innovative doctors. You won't find these stories in any medical textbook. You're getting real, live insight from men and women pushing the envelope beyond medicine.
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This podcast looks into the minds of cutting-edge and innovative doctors. You won't find these stories in any medical textbook. You're getting real, live insight from men and women pushing the envelope beyond medicine.




133 – From humble beginnings to America’s Family Doctor – Dr. Jennifer Caudle

What’s good everyone! Up next we have probably’s America’s busiest TV medical contributor – Dr. Jennifer Caudle. Dr. Jen is one of the most visible physicians in America and she appears in the homes of millions every week on TV and in print discussing health topics. We’re talking CNN, FOX, HLN, Dr. Oz Show, and Steve Harvey to name a few. She is a board-certified Family Medicine physician and currently is an Assistant Professor in Family Medicine at Rowan University School of Osteopathic...


132 – Your mind is what’s holding you back from your true potential!

What’s good everyone!! When I started Docs Outside the Box, I wanted to expose listeners to doctors thriving in non-traditional career paths. Just listening to episodes, might not be enough. I am learning that mindset plays a big part in our ability to take action, and also have positive energy in our lives. The fixed mindset keeps us from removing ourselves from toxic work environments, starting a podcast, or even taking a chance on a side-hustle we might be passionate about. I want to...


131 – Keeping it 100 on Where Doctors Fit in Healthcare

What’s good everyone!! Dr. Mark Shapiro, Host of Explore The Space podcast, jumps on the hot-seat to talk about where the hell physicians fit in the current landscape of healthcare. Are we still in the center, or are we stuck riding the bench while the MBAs make all the decisions? Who knows?! We get real, raw, and even bring up uncomfortable topics not generally talked about. If you’re looking for a show where physicians, academics, journalists are talking about healthcare – then Explore...


130 – The Come-Up: Dr. Nana Korsah’s journey from burnout to Life/Finance Coaching

What’s good everyone! Welcome to a new series called “The Come-Up.” In previous episodes, I’ve mentioned that it can difficult to identify with a successful person’s journey, especially if they’re on Step 1000 (i.e. Oprah Winfrey, Jeff Bezos). If you got a chance to listen or even talk to someone who is on Step 5 would that make a difference in your life? I think so – I would find it really inspiring to see successful people as their “figuring it out.” That’s what this series is all about....


129 – Ask Dr. Nii - Locums while wife is doing IVF. Help!

This Friday, Drs Nii & Renee answer questions related to travel locum work, family and marriage. Specifically, how to handle traveling for locums work while spouse is undergoing in-vitro fertilization. Also, how do you remain “present” in family life while traveling for up to two weeks out of the month? You’ll hear an update on how Dr. Renee is handling maternity leave. Plus we’re sharing a review from a listener.


128 – Doc Related… a comic strip so true…It’s funny!

What’s good everyone! Today you’re going to hear from Dr. Peter Valenzuela – the creative mind behind the comic strip Doc Related.” Doc Related is a comic strip with a satirical take on healthcare through the eyes of healthcare professionals. Think of Dilbert and the television show, The Office but for healthcare. You’ve probably seen his comic strips on numerous physician Facebook groups. Not only is he a creative, he’s also made the transition into hospital administration and serves as a...


127 – Get what you deserve! The art of negotiation w. Kwame Christian

What’s good everyone! What is the use of knowing that “everything is negotiable” if you lack both the skills and confidence? Negotiation expert and host of the popular podcast Negotiate Anything, Kwame Christian, chops it up with me on today’s episode. Kwame is a business lawyer and the Director of the American Negotiation Institute. In this role, he conducts live negotiation and conflict resolution training sessions for organizations. We’re talking about the basics of negotiation in a...


126 – This Tylenol Pill Costs How Much?! Price Transparency & Advocacy with Dr. Marty Makary

What’s good everyone, Much like auto body shops, did you know that hospitals present different prices to individuals compared to insurance companies? You may think, “Yeah of course, hospitals present a more inflated bill to insurance companies!” Well, there’s evidence to show this is not the case. Price gouging and lack of transparency has been a major problem in the healthcare industry for decades. Dr. Marty Makary, author of his new book The Price We Pay, drops in to talk about this and...


125 – Quit your way to a more fulfilled life!

What’s good everyone, I am very happy as a physician. But I’m not going to lie, there are things that people who are not doctors get to do that make me pretty jealous. One of them is the ability to have a career pivot. So many of my college friends have changed careers and sometimes I wonder “Could that be me?” My next guest is definitely not afraid to both ask that question and take action on it. Dr. Lynn Morski from the Quit Happens podcast joins me on this show to discuss how quitting...


124 - Meet the doctor making it harder for lawmakers to ignore science

What’s good everyone… My apologies for the short break in the beginning of the month. Check out the beginning of this episode to find out what happened. On this episode, I’m chopping it up with Dr. Cedric Dark, the Founder and Executive Editor of Policy Prescriptions. Think of Policy Prescriptions as a cliff notes version of health policy research so that lawmakers can make bills based off actual evidence-based studies. Now at this for well over 10 years, Dr. Dark got his start while...


123 – My lack of faith lead to opportunity costs

What’s good! Things get real for me on this episode. I’m in the hotseat as Dr. Renee interviews the “Doc Outside the Box.” Starting late last year, I doubled down on clinical work. This included late hours, additional travel, and time away from my family. The show went on in terms of the podcast, but there have been potholes along the way. We’re going to cover everything from my decision to work more all to the opportunity costs I incurred due to that decision. Themes...


122 – Stop stalling and use these 5 simple tools to grow your brand or business!

What’s good! One of the biggest challenges I face with being an entrepreneur is learning how to not be too focused on the minute details of my businesses. This is easier said than done, because, it involves creating systems and automation – things we definitely never learned in medical school. Sheryl (my amazing assistant) is jumping on the mic to share the tools she uses that helps me to scale my business ventures. This is a fun conversation, so listen up and take notes!! Resources...


121 – Docs should learn these lessons from NBA Free Agency

What’s up! You have got to be living under a rock to not know about the biggest free agency moves in the NBA this summer. On top of that, this class of free agents are the most talented we’ve seen in years. The elite players of the league have been making power moves and operating in ways to make sure their brand has a legacy. On this episode, Dr. Renee Darko and Kwesi Asamoah join me to discuss the money and branding plays of these NBA free agents!


120 - Embracing Your Outsider Status [5-Minute Friday]

What’s good!! We’re hearing from The Crispy Doc on this episode of 5-minute Friday. The Crispy Doc is an anonymous physician personal finance blogger who joined us on Episode 117 to discuss how doctors can reclaim both their time and careers by grabbing control of their finances. On this episode, we’ll find out how he uses one of his biggest weaknesses to get past his fears.


119 – What doctors can learn from business mogul Dame Dash

What’s good everyone! Dr. Renee is joining me on this episode. I decided to shake things up a bit and discuss something controversial. Damon “Dame” Dash is an American entrepreneur, record executive, film producer and is best known for co-founding Roc-A-Fella records. For a significant time, he served as Jay-Z’s manager and business partner. Several years ago, Dame Dash came on the popular radio talk show The Breakfast Club on Power 105.1 to discuss a new movie. To anyone who isn’t...


118 - Changing Specialty & Dealing with Criticism [5-Minute Friday]

What’s good!! We’re hearing from Dr. Nikki Ramskill on this episode of 5 minute Friday. Dr. Nikki, also known as “The Female Money Doctor,” joined us on Episode 115 to discuss why her patients are her target population for her personal finance writings. After listening to that episode, you learned that she did a major about-face and changed medical specialties. Even in the United Kingdom, this is a big deal and she talked about the critiques that came her way. On this episode she’s going...


117 – How to reclaim your time and life by controlling your finances!

What’s good everyone! I’m chopping it up with anonymous physician personal finance blogger Crispy Doc. We have similar immigrant and first-generation stories that led us down the path of becoming physicians. Taking safe jobs (i.e. teacher, engineer, physician) was an important way for first-generation children to establish their roots here in the United States. Crispy Doc shares his journey through burnout and how finally grabbing control of his finances got him on the road to...


116 – His Rx for Fear Lies Within All of Us

On this episode, you’ll hear Dr. Steinour’s approach to getting past fear even in the most extreme of cases and conditions. Also, I share some exciting news about the podcast.


115 – Healthy finances will lead to a healthier you!

What’s good everyone! My next guest is Dr. Nikki Ramskill – the personality behind the blog “The Female Money Doctor.” There aren’t as many physicians in the United Kingdom blogging about personal finance as in America, but her claim to fame is being the “first ever doctor in the UK to be blogging about money.” The blog has become popular in the UK and focuses on the money stresses that her patients suffer from. She comes off as relatable as she shares her journey through student loan...


114 – Getting the ‘F’ out your comfort zone, and Live in the Now!

On this episode, I get to chat with a physician who’s splitting his time between expeditions in Antarctica and on the motorcycle race track. My next guest, Dr. Nicholas Steinour, is an Emergency Medicine physician currently practicing in Austin, Texas. Dr. Steinour’s mantra is “enjoy things that make you fully present in life,” and without a doubt, he is living a life outside the box. You’re going to hear about how he’s become part of a team of physicians that provide medical support to...