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The Deduction is your guide to the complicated world of tax and economics. From the impacts of tariffs and trade wars to debates over who pays and how much, each episode, our experts untangle another aspect of the tax code. Listen to the leading tax podcast! Have a question for one of our experts, let us know here: Follow us on Twitter @deductionpod:


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The Deduction is your guide to the complicated world of tax and economics. From the impacts of tariffs and trade wars to debates over who pays and how much, each episode, our experts untangle another aspect of the tax code. Listen to the leading tax podcast! Have a question for one of our experts, let us know here: Follow us on Twitter @deductionpod:






Economic Education Month and TaxEDU

October is economic education month. An important part of economic education is understanding how taxes affect the economy. On this special episode of The Deduction, we discuss how Tax Foundation is doing just that through our tax literacy initiative, "TaxEDU." Zoe Callaway, Manager of Education and Outreach, joins Kyle Hulehan to chat about why Tax Foundation launched TaxEDU and how TaxEDU is advancing tax policy education, discussion, and understanding in classrooms, living rooms, and government chambers. Links: Support the showFollow us! Support the show


Prohibition by Price

Step into the shadows of illicit trade where taxation, incentives, and criminal networks intersect to fuel the lucrative cigarette smuggling market. Adam Hoffer, the Director of Excise Tax Policy, joins Kyle Hulehan to shed light on how substantial price markups on legal cigarettes pave the way for tempting tax avoidance opportunities. They unravel the unintended consequences of cigarette taxation and explore strategies to combat this burgeoning illicit trade Links: Support the showFollow us! Support the show


The Inflation Reduction Act One Year Later

The Inflation Reduction Act is an ambitious law with worthy goals to reduce deficits, fight inflation, help the IRS, and combat climate change. However, one year after its enactment, there are concerns about its overall fiscal impact, the additional complexity it introduces to the tax system, and the sustainability of its initiatives. Will McBride, Vice President of Federal Tax Policy at the Tax Foundation, joins Kyle Hulehan to examine the Inflation Reduction Act one year later. They dive into the disconnect between political aspirations and the real-world consequences of executing intricate policies, the skyrocketing costs of green energy tax credits, and why, despite increased funding, the IRS is struggling to keep up. Links: Support the showFollow us! Support the show


Interesting Interest Rates

Interest rates and tax policy, two vital components of our economic landscape, often interact in fascinating ways. They influence the behavior of individuals, businesses, and governments. But how exactly? Alan Cole, Senior Economist at the Tax Foundation, joins us to explore the complex effects of interest rate changes. We discuss how these shifts can impact everything, from budget deficits and tax revenues to investment choices and the overall economy. Links: Follow us! Support the showFollow us! Support the show


The Wayfair Sales Tax Ruling, Five Years Later

It’s the 5th anniversary of the groundbreaking Wayfair Supreme Court decision—a ruling that marked a new era of sales tax collection and changed how we think about taxation in the digital age. South Dakota v. Wayfair established a new precedent, allowing states to assert their authority in collecting sales tax from remote sellers based on economic presence. Jared Walczak, Vice President of State Projects, joins Kyle to provide insights into the evolving legal framework surrounding the Wayfair decision and sales tax collection. They discuss potential solutions that could simplify compliance and bring uniformity to online sales tax regulations. Links: Follow Us! Support the showFollow us! Support the show


A Bittersweet Broadcast

On this “not-so-heavy-on-the-policy” episode, our much-beloved host, Jesse Solis, is joined by the Deduction's Senior Producer, Dan Carvajal, and Marketing Associate, Kyle Hulehan, to share some bittersweet news. If you follow us on social media, you've undoubtedly come across something Kyle created. He is no stranger to the Tax Foundation, having interned here in 2018 and rejoining full-time last year, and his ever-brimming curiosity will be a welcome new seat at the table. Support the showFollow us! Support the show


Tax Ideas for the EU Green Transition

The past few years have brought a renewed push from countries across the globe to combat climate change. In the European Union, policymakers have put a timeline on their climate agenda. By 2050, the EU wants to achieve a net-zero economy. Sean Bray, director of European policy, breaks down how much it would cost to achieve this goal. He also discusses the similarities and differences between the EU’s and the U.S.’s climate plans, and how the EU should use its tax codes to make the transition to a net-zero economy as frictionless as possible. Links: Follow Us! Support the showFollow us! Support the show


The FairTax?

The FairTax, on paper, sounds simple: just replace all major sources of the federal government’s revenue—the individual income tax, corporate income tax, estate and gift taxes, and payroll tax—with a national sales tax. But when you pull back the curtains, this proposal leads to more questions than answers. Alan Cole, senior economist, makes his Deduction debut to talk us through why this old idea is gaining attention this year. He breaks down what the FairTax shows us about the debate between income taxes versus consumption taxes, and why “simple solutions” appeal to so many policymakers for how best to tax an increasingly complex economy. Links: Follow us! Support the showFollow us! Support the show


Exploring Excise Tax Trends

The tax base around the world is shrinking for traditional excise taxes, including taxes on tobacco, alcohol, and motor fuel. But newer excise taxes on things like carbon, cannabis, and ride-sharing are on the rise. This trend has the potential to significantly affect the global economy. Adam Hoffer, Director of Excise Tax Policy, joins Jesse to discuss how excise taxes have been used by policymakers in the past and how that is changing. They discuss what makes a good design for these taxes and where excise taxes may go in the future as the traditional “sin tax” base continues to shrink. Links: Follow us! Support the showFollow us! Support the show


What’s Missing from the Tax Burden Debate

When we discuss tax policy, the conversation inevitably turns to who pays, who should pay, and how much they should pay. Unfortunately, the tax burdens debate is often missing a key point: how income transfer programs—like Social Security or Medicaid—affect households’ tax burdens. When looking at the whole picture, just how progressive is our tax code? Timothy Vermeer, senior policy analyst, joins Jesse to take a closer look. They discuss what is missing from the progressivity debate, and what lawmakers at the state and federal level should keep in mind when they consider tax reforms and interstate competition. Links: Follow us! the show Support the showFollow us! Support the show


Biden's 2024 Budget

President Biden recently released his budget proposal for fiscal year 2024. As he has with previous budgets, the president is continuing to call for higher taxes on businesses and wealthy taxpayers. This may be the last budget President Biden releases before he announces a run for a second term. The White House says this budget will reduce the deficit, strengthen Medicare, and will only target the well-off. But are those claims true? Erica York, senior economist, walks through the details with Jesse. They discuss what the economic impact of this budget would be and what parts stand a chance at actually becoming law. Links: Follow us!: Support the show Support the showFollow us! Support the show


Rethinking Affordable Housing Tax Policy

Affordable housing is an issue that has had long-standing bipartisan interest in D.C. But the path to increase the supply of affordable housing, though often well-intentioned, has created a bureaucratic nightmare. Large programs like the Low-Income Housing Tax Credit, and other initiatives like rehabilitation tax credits and grants, have created a web of complexity that makes these policies less helpful than they were meant to be. Garrett Watson, senior policy analyst, joins Jesse to break down the tax code’s relationship to affordable housing. He also discusses his testimony to the U.S. Senate about this topic, and where he thinks lawmakers should focus their efforts as they continue to debate these tax programs. Links: Follow us! Support the showFollow us! Support the show


A Look at Local Income Taxes

Filing season is ramping up, as most of us are getting ready to file our state and federal income taxes. But in nearly a third of U.S. states, taxpayers pay some sort of local income tax too. Levied in thousands of cities, counties, school districts, and other localities, local income taxes are often used to either lower other taxes (like property taxes) or raise more revenue for local services. While they may make sense on paper, local income taxes come with more challenges than other local revenue sources. Janelle Fritts, policy analyst with Tax Foundation's Center for State Tax Policy, walks Jesse through the origin of local income taxes and the trade-offs lawmakers need to keep in mind when considering them. Links: Support the showFollow us! Support the show


State of the Union Reaction 2023

On Tuesday, President Biden shared his policy aspirations during the State of the Union address. The commander in chief outlined three tax proposals in his remarks: quadrupling the brand-new excise tax on stock buybacks, instituting a “billionaire minimum tax,” and extending the now-lapsed expanded Child Tax Credit. Erica York and Alex Muresianu from the federal tax policy team joined Jesse to give a run-down of Tuesday night’s events. They discuss the prospects of major tax changes becoming law in a divided government and what these proposals signal about how President Biden thinks about tax policy as he enters the latter half of his first term. Links:[…]acturing-production-growth-inflation-silicon-valley-11674415751 Support the showFollow us! Support the show


Wealth Taxes Reach the States

Since 2021, 43 states have provided substantial tax relief for taxpayers and businesses. But this year, a new trend has emerged in the opposite direction: a push for states to tax investment. From coordinated wealth tax proposals to higher capital gains income taxes, some state legislatures are going after high earners. Jared Walczak, V.P. of State Projects at the Tax Foundation, joins Jesse to discuss how these measures would affect investment, job creation, and migration between states—and why they’re happening now. Links: Support the showFollow us! Support the show


New Year, New Taxes

It’s a new year. And if one thing is certain, it’s that businesses are facing a lot of uncertainty. Key parts of the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 are kicking into effect, including the new book minimum tax. Erica York, senior economist at the Tax Foundation, joins Jesse to discuss why this policy came into the fold. They discuss if this tax will really stop companies from paying zero in taxes, as the president claims, if the new Republican House will revisit this debate, and what the tax's impact will be on jobs and economic growth. Links: Support the showFollow us! Support the show


All I Want for Christmas is EU: Understanding Tax Policy in Brussels

When it comes to international economic competition, people often frame the argument as the U.S. versus China. But across the Atlantic, nation-states in the European Union have been working hard to show the world that they deserve to be considered an economic force. Rising up to this challenge for the EU is easier said than done. Sean Bray, EU policy analyst at the Tax Foundation, joins Jesse to talk through the EU's challenges--and potential--when it comes to tax and economic policy. Support the showFollow us! Support the show


Meet Daniel Bunn (again), Tax Foundation's New President & CEO

Tax Foundation recently announced that Daniel Bunn is our new president and CEO. In this special episode of The Deduction¸ Daniel chats with Jesse about how he got into tax policy. They discuss his time in the Senate, his plans for Tax Foundation’s future, and even his obsession with smoking meats. Links: Support the showFollow us! Support the show


Post-Election Breakdown

The 2022 midterm elections are wrapping up, and taxpayers are looking at a divided Congress for the next two years. Senior Policy Analyst Garrett Watson sits down with Jesse at Tax Foundation's headquarters to give a quick analysis of what these elections mean for tax policy. They talk through what we can expect from the approaching "lame-duck" session, what a Republican House and Democrat Senate could find agreement on, and what priorities the upcoming Congress should focus on. Links: Support the showFollow us! Support the show


The UK’s Tax Battles, Part One: How We Got Here

If you’ve been following taxes closely these past few months, you know that the UK is currently undergoing a drastic change. This episode of The Deduction is part one in our ongoing coverage of the UK’s tax battles. Jesse chats with Tom Clougherty, research director and head of tax at the Centre for Policy Studies in London. Tom talks us through what all went down in the UK this fall: from the leadership elections to the countless U-turns the new prime minister has made to try and reform the country’s tax code. Shortly after we finished recording this episode, news broke that Chancellor Kwasi Kwatern was being ousted, and Jeremy Hunt would take over the Exchequer, with the promise that, yet again, another U-turn would happen on the country’s budget. While this episode doesn’t get into that turn of events, it is still a very informative start showing how we got here and where the country should go on taxes. A quick British glossary for this episode—“Bugbear”: a cause of obsessive fear, irritation, or loathing. Links: Support the showFollow us! Support the show