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The Politics Guys is an independent, bipartisan, ideologically diverse American politics and policy podcast hosted by experts: political scientists, law professors, practicing attorneys, and former government officials. Our mission is to give listeners a much-needed break from conservative and liberal echo chambers through civil, rational, and evidence-based discussion of American politics and policy from multiple perspectives. In addition to our weekly news discussion, we feature regular interviews with leading figures from across the ideological spectrum. Past guests include Representatives Jim Jordan, Thomas Massie, and Rob Wittman; Jeffrey Sachs; Tyler Cowen; Bryan Caplan; Dan Carlin; Larry Sabato; and Lawrence Lessig.

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The Politics Guys is an independent, bipartisan, ideologically diverse American politics and policy podcast hosted by experts: political scientists, law professors, practicing attorneys, and former government officials. Our mission is to give listeners a much-needed break from conservative and liberal echo chambers through civil, rational, and evidence-based discussion of American politics and policy from multiple perspectives. In addition to our weekly news discussion, we feature regular interviews with leading figures from across the ideological spectrum. Past guests include Representatives Jim Jordan, Thomas Massie, and Rob Wittman; Jeffrey Sachs; Tyler Cowen; Bryan Caplan; Dan Carlin; Larry Sabato; and Lawrence Lessig.

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Episodes

Schumer, Liberals Ban Everything, Judge McAfee, Fani Willis, Nathan Wade, Trump’s RNC

3/15/2024
Trey & Ken start the episode with a deep dive into Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer’s Senate speech on Israel, Hamas, and Benjamin Netanyahu. This includes a discussion of the norm breaking nature of calling for a vote on a democratically elected leader, if the Biden administration is giving in to more leftist voices, and the extent to which the U.S. may change its behavior in relationship to Israel. Next is a conversation on a series of orders from Judge McAfee on Trump’s cases, including throwing out six charges, and the requirement that Nathan Wade step down (which is now official). Finally the pair close the show with a discussion of the recent firings and memos out of the RNC. Ken believes the restructure will take money away from Republican candidates and help Democrats, Trey thinks it is unwise to underestimate Trump’s ability to effectively campaign. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:01:08:14

Women in Politics

3/13/2024
Kimberly talks with Mary Chung Hayashi, national healthcare advocate, former California State Assembly member, Principal of Public Policy & Advocacy Solutions, and author of Women in Politics: Breaking Down the Barriers to Achieve True Representation. Topics Kimberly & Mary discuss include: Why we’re still having the same discussions about increasing the number of women in politics, even though not only women—but Americans as a whole—benefit from having women in elected government positions Why women shouldn’t focus on what they’re lacking, but instead focus on what they can ‘bring to the table’ How Mary’s personal experience as an immigrant woman of Asian descent has brought her face-to-face with the plethora of challenges all women face running for—and serving in—public office, and strategies to overcome these barriers The often-invisible biases against women of color running for office Why it’s important for women with political ambitions to cultivate the support of men The many ways in which men seeking or in political office benefit from a societal double standard for men and women Why women should be encouraged, regardless of their political affiliation, to participate in politics The importance of breaking down the imagination barrier to encourage both men and women to rethink their own preconceived notions about women’s roles While money matters, and men almost always have more financial support, deep pockets aren’t necessarily the only way to win an election The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:56:59

Bias Response Teams and Free Expression, Listener Questions

3/12/2024
Mike and Jay open the preview of this supporters’ midweek episode with a discussion of Speech First, Inc. v Sands, a Supreme Court case in which Jay submitted an amicus curiae brief to the Court. They get into whether the Court was right to dismiss the case as moot (Mike says yes while Jay has his doubts) as well as the underlying issue of whether bias response teams on college campuses necessarily chill speech (Jay says yes while Mike thinks possibly, but not necessarily). After that, they respond to a bunch of listener questions: politicians in the opposite party they respect, the politician they’d most like to have a beer with and what they’d ask them, Jay’s best argument to Republicans for Biden and Mike’s best argument to Democrats for Trump. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:18:12

Super Tuesday, Trump Insurrection Ruling, State of the Union

3/9/2024
Mike & Jay open the episode with a look at the results of the most uncompetitive Super Tuesday ever, considering Nikki Haley’s position and whether the 2024 Presidential race is Donald Trump’s to lose at this point. They also discuss Senator Mitch McConnell’s endorsement of Trump in the context of McConnell’s remarks concerning Trump in the aftermath of the January 6th Capitol riot. Following that they consider the Supreme Court’s unanimous ruling that states can’t remove Donald Trump from the ballot for being an insurrectionist. Both Mike and Jay agree with the decision. Mike argues that the Court’s three liberals and Justice Barrett were right in arguing that the opinion was too broad, a position with which Jay disagrees. They close by discussing President Biden’s State of the Union address, both on policy and whether or not it demonstrated that Biden may be up for the rigors of a presidential campaign. That leads to a broader discussion of campaigning, communicating, and governing. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:01:02:12

The Economic Government of the World

3/6/2024
Kimberly Weir, Professor Emeritus of Political Science at Northern Kentucky University talks with Martin Daunton, Professor Emeritus of Economic History at the University of Cambridge. Professor Daunton is a former president of the Royal Historical Society and author of The Economic Government of the World From 1933-2023. Topics Kimberly & Martin discuss include: Why considering the economic events of 1933 is necessary for understanding the multilateral policies and institutions that emerged out of World War II That food and labor security—not economic policies—were much more immediate concerns for policymakers in the first international conferences at the end of World War II How domestic considerations are imperative to successfully coordinate international economic policies Dealing with autocratic governments and increased populism when pursuing global economic governance How global institutions (particularly the IMF, World Bank, FAO, and WHO) can aid developing countries, rather than just perpetuate a global economic divide advantaging developed countries How China and Russia, along with the BRIICS bloc, impact global economic governance How resolving countries’ debt is unquestionably tied to tackling climate change  The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:01:01:17

Trump’s Trials, Immigration, McConnell Stepping Down

3/5/2024
Mike, Jay, and Justin open the preview of this midweek supporters’ episode with a discussion of the maneuvering over the schedule for Donald Trump’s documents trial. Jay argues that Trump’s actions aren’t all that unreasonable, a position with which Mike and Justin don’t agree, with Mike arguing that removing or destroying documents is never a legally justifiable response to a document subpoena. Next, they consider the recent southern border visits by President Biden and Donald Trump. None of them sees this as a good issue for Biden, with Trey writing in to argue that focusing on the border in any way can only weaken Biden. Mike suggests that the only thing Biden could do to turn the issue around would be to take the sort of dramatic action he has previously shown a willingness to do on student loan debt, but that he’s been unwilling to take on immigration. After that is a look at Kentucky Senator Mitch McConnell’s career in the wake of his announcement that he’ll be stepping down as Republican leader after the November elections. They close the episode by responding to a supporter’s question concerning whether Jay moderates his comments on Trump out of concern for partisan blowback as well as the larger issue of Republicans who may be afraid to speak their minds about Donald Trump. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:16:46

Trump’s Immunity, Presidential Race, Government Funding

3/2/2024
Mike, Jay, and University of Northern Iowa political scientist Justin Holmes open the episode with a discussion of the Supreme Court’s decision to hear Donald Trump’s ex-presidential immunity case. While they all agree it’s an important issue that needs to be ruled on by the Court, Mike and Justin are more concerned about the Court’s schedule than Jay is. Next, they consider the results of the Michigan primary elections and what they might suggest about the near-inevitable Biden-Trump rematch. Mike argues that the seemingly large number of ‘uncommitted’ Democratic votes isn’t as big of a deal as many have made it out to be. Justin makes the case that the results point to issues for both Biden and Trump. Jay thinks most Democratic and Republican voters will ‘come home’ in the end. They close with an examination of the recent short-term continuing resolutions to avert a government shutdown. Jay once again makes the point that Republicans almost always suffer politically when they shut down the government. Justin says government funding by continuing resolution is both common these days and not at all desirable, while Mike wonders about what this all says about Speaker Mike Johnson and his promise to return to a ‘normal’ budget process. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:57:28

GOP Primary, May and Trans People, Presidential Greatness, Our Ideal Candidates

2/27/2024
Mike and May open the preview of this midweek supporters' episode with a discussion of why Nikki Haley is staying in a presidential primary race she has almost no chance of winning, as well as considering who Donald Trump might choose as his running mate. Following that, they address a question from a listener who asks if May denies the existence of trans people, getting into a larger discussion of gender-affirming care both for minors and adults. Next is their take on the most recent Presidential Greatness Survey, which has Abe Lincoln at the very top and Donald Trump in the basement, as well as their thoughts on ideal presidential candidates not named Biden or Trump. As Kids, They Thought They Were Trans. They No Longer Do. Pamela Paul (New York Times, 2/2/24) The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:22:01

Ukraine War, Student Debt Forgiveness, Alabama IVF Ruling, Diversity Admissions

2/24/2024
Mike and May open with a discussion of Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the latest US sanctions as the war reaches the two-year mark. May is unclear as to the US's goals and argues that this is reflected in declining public support for Ukraine. Mike believes the lack of support breaks down more along partisan lines, with Democrats more supportive than Republicans, and that the US goal is clear - to prevent Russia from overrunning Ukraine and to send a strong message to our allies and adversaries around the world. Next is a look at the Biden administration's latest student loan debt forgiveness. Neither Mike nor May feel this is the best policy, but Mike sees it as one of the few economic relief levers the administration can pull without getting buy-in from congressional Republicans. They also consider student loan debt forgiveness in light of more fundamental problems with higher education costs. Following that they get into the ruling by Alabama's supreme court that a wrongful death suit can go forward against a person accused of destroying frozen embryos at an IVF facility. They agree that the court made the right call based on Alabama's constitution and the state's Wrongful Death of a Minor statute, and debate the larger implications of this ruling as well as what legislative action they expect to see in response. They close by considering why the US Supreme Court declined to take up an appeal to an equal protection challenge to a Virginia high school's admissions program, as well as how schools across the country can factor diversity into their admission decisions without having their programs invalidated by courts. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:57:21

Alexander Ward on Restoring American Foreign Policy

2/21/2024
Mike talks with Alexander Ward, a national security reporter at Politico and anchor of National Security Daily. He’s the author of the recently released book, The Internationalists: The Fight to Restore American Foreign Policy After Trump, which they discuss on this episode. Topics Mike and Alexander Cover Include: - why post-Trump foreign policy needed restoration - comparing Biden and Trump’s Secretaries of State - Biden’s withdrawal from Afghanistan - meeting the rising threat from China - Russia and the war in Ukraine - Middle East policy - North Korea - climate change The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:01:03:15

The Constitution: The Right to Bear Arms

2/20/2024
Trey & Ken continue through the U.S. Constitution's Bill of Rights by diving into the 2nd Amendment. They cover the history of the right, how it was a compromise between Federalists and Anti-Federalists, and the current jurisprudence of the 2nd Amendment. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:18:05

Trump's Civil Judgment, Navalny's Death, Trump's NATO Remarks, Biden and Netanyahu

2/16/2024
In this packed episode, Trey and Ken start by discussing the breaking news of Donald Trump’s civil judgment of $354.9 million in a New York court. Ken believes it will be difficult for the case to be overturned on appeal due to the need for a bond and because of the nature of the defense. Following that they move to the next breaking story: the death of Alexei Navalny in a Russian prison. Trey and Ken both agree there is no good response because in large part the normal responses are already engaged. Ken hopes this might push Republicans toward supporting a Ukraine aid package. Next, the pair turn to Trump’s NATO remarks over the weekend. Trey argues that the comments are terrible, in part because they burn down reasonable arguments over NATO. Ken argues that even if the U.S. had to foot the bill entirely it would be in its best interests to do so. After that, they turn to a constellation of issues regarding Israel, including the relationship between Biden and Netanyahu. Trey sees the increasingly hostile relationship as a combination of factors, including Israel’s move to eliminate Hamas in its entirety and domestic pressure on Biden’s left. Ken somewhat optimistically believes that Biden can help broker a more lasting peace while looking forward to a two-state solution. They close with a look at the flipped Santos seat for the Democrats and what that means for Speaker Johnson and the Senate funding bills for Ukraine and Israel. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:58:46

Immigration, Ukraine, Nevada Elections, Climate Change

2/13/2024
Mike and Jay open the preview of this supporters’ midweek episode with a discussion of why the Senate’s bipartisan immigration proposal failed. Mike argues that the GOP is more interested in keeping the issue than improving things at the border, and Jay’s previous legislative optimism has now all but vanished. They go on to discuss prospects for standalone funding for Ukraine and Israel, followed by a look at Nevada’s presidential primaries and GOP caucus. They close by addressing listener questions, including one on whether the hottest year on record has changed Jay’s view on climate change. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:18:00

Biden’s Cognitive State, Trump Insurrection and Immunity Cases

2/10/2024
Mike and Jay open with a discussion of Special Counsel Robert Hur’s report on President Biden’s handling of classified documents. Mike argues that Hur should have been more neutral in his wording, while Jay doesn’t see any significant problems with how Hur presented his findings. They also consider the broader issues of memory, verbal gaffes, and cognitive fitness. Following that, they consider the oral arguments before the Supreme Court concerning Donald Trump’s eligibility to run for president. They expect either a unanimous or 8-1 decision allowing Trump to run and discuss the multiple reasons why this is the right call. They close with a look at the D.C. Circuit’s ruling that Donald Trump isn’t immune from prosecution for any actions he took as President. Mike characterizes the argument by Trump as a long-shot aimed at delaying a potential guilty verdict until after the 2024 election. Jay doesn’t disagree and predicts the Supreme Court will hear an inevitable appeal from Trump. Mike hopes the high court doesn’t hear the case at all, letting the D.C. Circuit’s decision stand, and allowing Trump’s trial to move forward as expeditiously as possible. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:01:02:21

Luttig vs Trump, MAGA vs Taylor Swift, State of the Democratic Party

2/6/2024
Mike and Ken open the preview of this supporters’ midweek episode with a detailed look at why conservative former federal judge Michael Luttig believes Donald Trump is ineligible to run for president. They discuss both Luttig’s arguments against the Court ducking the issue and his substantive case against Trump as an insurrectionist. Following that, they discuss why MAGA world is so unhappy with Taylor Swift and consider the present state and near-future prospects for the Democratic Party. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:19:28

Mayorkas Impeachment, Social Media, Alabama Execution, Biden’s Judges

2/2/2024
Mike and Ken open the episode with a discussion of the move by House Republicans to impeach Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas. They examine the articles of impeachment and agree that they’re not very convincing, and consider how the Senate might proceed if the House votes to impeach Mayorkas. Next, they turn to the Senate Judiciary Committee’s hearings on online harm to children. While there’s a bipartisan consensus that more should be done to keep kids safe online, Ken points out the problems with simply eliminating legal protections for social media companies. Mike contends that much of the harm done to kids online is unlikely to be addressable through legislation. After that is a discussion of capital punishment in the wake of Alabama’s first-in-the-nation use of the nitrogen hypoxia execution method, followed by a discussion of whether it’s time for the Senate to speed up judicial confirmations by ending the “Blue Slip” home-state Senator veto for district court judge nominations. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:01:06:36

Donald Trump’s War on Capitalism

1/31/2024
Mike talks with David Stockman, a legendary figure in Republican circles. Mr. Stockman has served as a member of the House of Representatives, budget director in the Reagan White House, and partner in the private equity company Blackstone. He’s the author of many books, the latest of which is Trump’s War on Capitalism, which they discuss in this episode. Topics Discussed Include: - why Donald Trump has “all the right enemies” - Trump’s “hopelessly wrong” economic policies - how the financial crisis of 2008-09 never really ended - Trump’s immigration and trade policies - the COVID response under Trump - the big Trump tax cut - why a Trump loss would be good for the GOP The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:01:07:55

Navarro Sentencing, Secret Courts, The Republican Party

1/30/2024
This week's special bonus show is our right-wing hosts: Trey and Jay! They start the show with a few items from last week: Peter Navarro's Sentencing and the new secret data courts formed by executive order. Jay is pretty firm that Navarro is a political prosecution. Where Trey and Jay do agree is that Trump will have a hard time continuing to find real staff as he steps back from those who supported him when it becomes convenient. Next, they discuss the new court designed to allow Europeans to protect their privacy in the United States. But the court's docket is unknown, if they take cases are unknown, and even the process for EU citizens is not clear. This leads Trey to question what the real intention of this court is and to a conversation about the importance of data privacy. Finally, Trey and Jay give their take on the past, present and future of the Republican Party. They have large agreement on its origins and transformation. But where Trey despairs that the party is not only no longer what it once was, nor a place he finds a home, Jay believes that after short-term pain there is a future for conservatives. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:13:43

New Hampshire, Abbott's Order, Immigration Bill

1/27/2024
Trey and Jay open a special right-wing look at the week's politics! Next week the left takes over with Mike and Ken. Trey and Jay open the episode diving deeply into New Hampshire's Republican primary. This includes a look at the voter turnout, demographic shifts, delegate count, and what the exit of DeSantis means for the race. Trey is hopeful of a Haley victory and sees her easily defeating Biden on the most recent polling data. Jay is like sure and more sure that the race is effectively over. They also discuss the influence the civil ruling against Trump in the amount of $83.3 million Next, they discuss Texas Governor Abbott's recent order declaring an invasion and therefore the "right" of Texas to ignore the U.S. Supreme Court and Federal law. Jay and Trey agree that there is no historical nor constitutional basis to the order, but Jay argues the use of the term invasion is a good one in a cultural context. Trey deeply disagrees and the two have a deep debate over the merits of different immigration policies. Trey believes in the easier free movement of people without much benefit to deep border policies, Jay sees the need for tougher regulation to crack down on fentanyl and crime. They close the show with an update on the possibility of an immigration bill paired with Ukraine / Israel funding. Jay believes it is likely and that House Republicans will take a win if they can get it. Trey believes McConnell that Republicans don't want a win until Trump is in office and that some House Republicans are no votes without question. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:01:17:46

Bipartisan Tax Deal, Transgender Rights, The Administrative State

1/23/2024
Mike and May open the preview of this midweek supporters’ episode with a discussion of a bipartisan deal to raise the child tax credit and reinstate some business tax breaks. Both Mike and May think it’s a good deal as there’s something for Democrats (the child tax credits) and something for the Republicans (those business tax credits) though Mike in particular expresses skepticism that it will end up becoming law any time soon. Next, they consider the Supreme Court declining to review a case involving bathroom access for an Indiana transgender student, which leads them into a deeper discussion of the law and transgender rights. They close the show by considering whether the Supreme Court will end its “Chevron Deference” doctrine, in which courts defer to any reasonable administrative interpretation of ambiguous legislation. Mike thinks overturning Chevron entirely is a mistake, whereas May believes it’s the right thing to do. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:21:07