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#21: Hunger, Desire, and an Appetite for Life

In this mini episode, host Carter Umhau, LMHCA--therapist, artist, and writer-- explains the story behind naming The Appetite. Citing a revelation from The Minnesota Starvation Experiment around the differences between hunger and appetite, Carter speaks to how tuning into the specificity of one's appetite translates to a greater appetite for other areas of life. Links and Resources: Connect...


#20: Inner Wisdom: An Eating Disorder Recovery Story with Sarah Taylor

Today's episode features the story of Sarah Taylor--The Appetite's behind-the-scenes magic-maker! Sarah talks with host Carter Umhau, MA, LMHCA, and explores the story of her own recovery from an eating disorder, sharing about her experiences in treatment and the deeper healing that happened after-the-fact. Considering that every recovery story is so different, Sarah gracefully shares the ways that her own struggles with her body eventually lead her into a life postured toward advocacy for...


#19: Can I Trust My Body With Food?

Regular listener Tam O’Donnell joins us to respond to a previous episode, “How to Eat in a Food-Obsessed World.” Tam brings questions and wonderings around how to provide both structure and freedom for kids around food, and asks the crucial and vulnerable question of, “Can I really trust my body?” The Opal team, including Julie Church, RDN, CEDS, Kara Bazzi, LMFT, CEDS, and Carter Umhau, LMHCA, respond with nutrition science, words of wisdom, and questions that beget more questions. Links...


#18: Emotion and Learning: The Self-Inquiry Process in Radically Open DBT

Would you engage yourself differently if you assumed that all the emotions you experienced had something to teach you? Today, Opal: Food+Body Wisdom’s Lexi Giblin, PhD, CEDS, and Carter Umhau, MA, LMHCA explore the process of “self-inquiry”--a key tool in Radically Open DBT. Self-inquiry is all about seeking growth rather than trying to fix one’s shortcomings. In this episode, Lexi will lean into the strength of her own vulnerability in order to model the process of self-inquiry in...


#17: Athletic Identity - an Exploration with Riley Nickols, PhD

It's common to hear messages in the sports world like "More is better!" "No pain, no gain!" or "Keep pushing!" Sports Psychologist Riley Nickols,PhD, Director of The Victory Program at McCallum Place, joins Opal Co-Founder Kara Bazzi, LMFT, CEDS to explore the athletic identity and how widespread ways of thinking about performance as an athlete may also translate into other areas of an athlete's life and self-identity. Bazzi and Nickols explore how these postures are reflected in an...


#16: Who Am I? The Role of Identity in Food, Body Image, and Sport

This episode is all about identity. Opal: Food + Body Wisdom Co-Founders, Lexi Giblin PhD, CEDS, and Kara Bazzi, LMFT, CEDS, and Host Carter Umhau, MA, LMHCA discuss topics of identity development and explore how struggles with disordered eating and body image can sometimes point to a crisis of identity. The Appetite crew shares both from their expertise as clinicians and from personal experience, and Kara brings specific attention to the experience of those that identify as athlete’s and...


The Appetite #15: Mothers, Grandmothers, and Great-Grandmothers, The Women Who Got Us Here

In this heartfelt and vulnerable conversation, host Carter Umhau, MA, LMHCA, asks Opal Co-Founders Lexi Giblin PhD, CEDS, Julie Church, RDN, CEDRD, CD, and Kara Bazzi, LMFT, CEDS about who they were when they were younger and how the people that came before them influenced the women and leaders they’ve become. This episode is released in honor of Mother’s Day. ​ Links: Betty Reid Soskin:


#14: The Humanity Behind Leadership: Inspiration, Vulnerability, Strength, and Relationship

Opal co-founders Lexi Giblin PhD, CEDS, Julie Church, RDN, CEDRD, CD, and Kara Bazzi, LMFT, CEDS, join together with host Carter Umhau, LMHCA to reflect and debrief after a transformative experience at the MUSE Conference--a yearly gathering of movers and shakers to kick off Women's History Month. The Founders explore their role as leaders within the eating disorder community and beyond and share with vulnerability and strength how MUSE spoke to each of them in this particular season of...


#13 How to Eat in A Food Obsessed World

Today we're talking about the ever-conflicting messages American culture gives us about what and how to eat. We explore the potentially detrimental nuances of fad diets like Whole 30, detoxing, and the idea of “eating clean,” highlighting the work of Ellyn Satter as a map to a more nuanced relationship with yourself as an attuned eater and emphasizing new, more flexible ways to think about competency with food. TW: In this episode, we do name several diets and talk some specifics (no...


#12: What is Health?

What is health and how do we get it? Today we challenge the idea that this question can be answered in a one-size-fits-all way. We explore today's obsession with health, challenging how much of a moral issue health has become, and how we might be able to start looking at it not as an absence of disease, but more holistically as an intersection of well-being in body, mind, and spirit. Links and Resources: Ansel Key's Starvation Study Summary:...


#11: Dr. Anita Johnston: Myth, Storytelling, and Seeking Metaphor in Your Relationship to Food

Dr. Anita Johnston joins us to talk about how to learn more about your relationship with food by looking through the lenses of myth, storytelling, and metaphor. Author of Eating in the Light of the Moon and Clinical Director of 'Ai Pono eating disorder treatment center in Hawaii, Dr. Anita Johnston speaks to how the matrilineal society in which she grew up shaped her persceptive on food and body struggles, the neuroscience behind metaphor, and how one's struggle with food communicates the...


Bonus Episode: Poet and The Appetite Host Carter Umhau on Healing Through The Creative Process

In this special bonus episode, our very own host, Carter Umhau, LMHCA, shares her work as a poet, reading five works from her collection. Her writing touches on themes of friendship, birth and grief, being around the table with memorable food, the loss of an old version of life, and passionately enjoying one’s self. Opal Co-Founders Lexi Giblin, PhD, CEDS and Kara Bazzi, LMFT, CEDS join the conversation, interviewing Carter about her creative process, why writing is healing, and how the...


#09: Sally Revere - The Role of Temperament and Body Wisdom in Sport Performance

In this conversation about the influential position a coach has on an athlete's life and performance, Opal Co-Founder Kara Bazzi LMFT, CEDS and Carter Umhau, LMHCA interview Sally Revere, head Cross Country and Track & Field coach at Lakeside High School in Seattle. Sally offers practical advice on how she addresses food and body concerns on her team, as well as addressing the power of coaching from a whole athlete perspective. Kara and Carter bring in questions about temperament as it...


#08 Sport and Performance: Exploring the Athletic Temperament through a Radically Open DBT lens

What are the temperamental factors that make a good athlete? Today, Opal Founders Kara Bazzi, LMFT, CEDS, Julie Church, RDN, CEDRD, CD, and Lexi Giblin PhD, CEDS, and host Carter Umhau, LMHCA talk sport and performance, exploring the topic through the Radically Open Dialectical Behavioral Therapy lens of “overcontrol.” The Appetite crew discusses how this overcontrolled temperament in athletes might lead to high athletic performance on one hand, but might also be the very thing that leads...


#07: Erin Harrop, MSW, BS, on Weight Stigma, Fatness, & an Intersectional Lens into Eating Disorders

Erin Harrop is a doctoral student at the University of Washington who uses a Health at Every Size®, anti-oppression, and critical feminist lens to explore the intersection of weight stigma and eating disorders. She joins Julie Church RDN, CEDRD, CD, and Carter Umhau, LMHCA for The Appetite’s first interview, in which we talk about fatness, weight stigma, and the necessity of intersectionality when looking at the systems of oppression that inform our understanding of the body and eating...


#06: Body Image: Project versus Relationship

Opal’s co-founders Julie Church RDN, CD, CEDS, Kara Bazzi, LMFT, CEDS, and Lexi Giblin PhD, CEDS, and host Carter Umhau LMHCA, discuss body image through the lens of both eating disorder treatment and their personal stories. They explore what it means to have a healthy body image, shifting away from seeing one's body as a project to "fix", and use their own stories to highlight the complexity of moving towards a more embodied relationship. Connect with us:


#05: Radically Open Forgiveness

As a person explores their appetite for life, forgiveness is worth considering. Opal founders Julie Church, RDN, CEDS, CD, Lexi Giblin, PhD, CEDS, and Kara Bazzi, LMFT, CEDS, --along with host and Opal therapist Carter Umhau, LMHCA--discuss what forgiveness looks like within relationships, as well as within a person's relationship to food, to themselves. and to their body. This conversation brings in principles from Radically Open DBT, as well as a good dash of vulnerability from the...


#01: Introducing The Appetite

Welcome to the first ever episode of The Appetite. Clinicians from Opal: Food+Body Wisdom, an eating disorder treatment center in Seattle, Washington, will meet every week to discuss all things body, food, movement, and mental health. Today you will meet the three women who founded Opal: Psychologist Dr. Lexi Giblin, Registered Dietitian Nutritionist Julie Church, and Family Therapist Kara Bazzi. Today’s discussion and future conversations will be facilitated by host and Opal therapist...


#02: Introduction to Radically Open Dialectical Behavior Therapy

In the first of three episodes introducing Opal’s core tenets, Dr. Lexi Giblin leads our discussion about the evidence-based treatment Radically Open Dialectical Behavior Therapy (RO DBT). RO DBT is a new therapy approach that was founded and developed by Dr. Thomas Lynch to target those who temperamentally lean toward too much control and emotional inhibition. The Appetite crew talks about how RO DBT principles speak to our need for connection and belonging. Learn more about RO DBT at...


#04: Movement as a Birthright

One of the many things that makes Opal a unique eating disorder treatment center is our incorporation of movement, exercise, and sport into the recovery process. We believe that movement is more than just a means for losing weight or shaping one's body. In this introduction to Opal’s final core tenet, therapist and co-founder Kara Bazzi, founder, and developer of Opal’s Sport+Exercise program leads our discussion about how widening one’s perspective on what movement is can be a...