Breaking Ordinary with Andy Petranek

Find & Subscribe: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify When you consider the fact that human beings have been living in tribes and communities for the entirety of our existence, there couldn't be a more important time to talk about how to create that connection than now... in this time of distancing and isolation during the COVID19 crisis. Philip is an anthropologist, an expert in the four archetypes as they relate to the hero’s journey, a ropes-course master, and has served as a consultant, trainer, and guide for high performing teams all over the country. In this conversation, we cover all of the following (and more): I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did! Help Us Spread the Word & share this link with a friend: www.wholelifechallenge.com/podcast YOUR REVIEWS MATTER. Please do me a solid... and write a review on iTunes. Thanks in Advance!! bit.ly/breakingordinary. Notes: We also start connecting when feeling isolated Connection - shine a light on your tribe. When you win, I win and visa versa. Celebrate the wins of people in your tribe. Honor based cultures. Celebrating the collective success. Their success is your success. The false narrative of the lone wolf - Hollywood glorified - Rambo, The Lone Ranger. Not powerful. The lone wolf starves to death in the wild. Humans are wired for inherent collaborative relationships. Lone wolves under one banner don’t win… until they became team players. Toss and assist. When isolated from the pack/tribe, it triggers a “death response” in the amygdala. That is why “shame” is such a significant trigger. It makes you feel like you’re not accepted… the threat of isolation/ex-communication. The brain releases cortisol - to prep to fight to survive. Shuts down non-vital organs and immune system. Feeling isolated? Must start a protocol of connecting. We are not socially distancing, we are physically distancing. We are tighter than ever today. Pain, when unresolved, it becomes resentment, which then becomes contempt - and then it’s time for separation, Perspective creates reality. When looking at this as enforced isolation, it’s externally enforced. When looking at this as solitude and it’s an opportunity for growth, reflection, healing, etc, it’s internally enforced. It’s a choice When it’s MY choice… I’m empowered. Ownership… don’t let someone else’s enforced rules become YOUR prison When you can no longer change your situation, you’re forced to change yourself. - Victor Frankl When in chaos, we must chunk it down into small amounts we can manage. There are situations… but there are never problems. Problems are always in the past or in the future. The apple represented metacognition. Self-awareness, what is going to happen in the future, and ultimately, death… the perfect recipe for anxiety, worry, fear. Humans have been cursed with remembering the past (regrets, depression), and thinking about the future (anxiety)... also a source of power - remembering the past (learn from it), thinking about the future (plan).. Yin Yang of our journey. Resiliency in a sense of belonging. WWII - the blitz of London - substantial drop in depression and anxiety and increased morale and resiliency got higher than ever. Trauma bonding. Kinship pillars 1 purpose, why, vision 2 values - growth, service 3 mission Connect with Philip https://www.mywolftribe.com/Philip on Facebook Philip on Instagram Questions? Feedback? podcast@wholelifechallenge.com@andypetranek@andypetranek@andypetranek WRITE A REVIEW - bit.ly/breakingordinary If you liked this episode, try these: 120 - Philip Folsom - on tribes, process, and taking the hard way 63 - Erin Cafaro - 2x Olympic Gold Medalist 97 - John Durant - author of the Paleo Manifesto

Find & Subscribe: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify A few days ago, I hopped on Zoom with Professional Life Coach and thought Leader Carolyn Freyer-Jones for the first of a new series of Facebook Live conversations. It seems like this format is really resonating with our community, even more so than my podcast, because it’s shorter, more accessible, and more fun. People have been reaching out to me non-stop about how much they loved the convo, and how helpful it was for them. In the conversation, Carolyn and I talk about how to deal with the unstable footing that we all find ourselves on, finding peace in all of the uncertainty, being of service, the illusion of control… and so much more. Enjoy! Help Us Spread the Word & share this link with a friend: www.wholelifechallenge.com/podcast YOUR REVIEWS MATTER. Please do me a solid... and write a review on iTunes. Thanks in Advance!! bit.ly/breakingordinary. Connect with Carolyn https://www.carolynfreyerjones.com/Carolyn on FacebookCFJ Coaching Success School Questions? Feedback? podcast@wholelifechallenge.com@andypetranek@andypetranek@andypetranek WRITE A REVIEW - bit.ly/breakingordinary If you liked this episode, try these: http://wholelifechallenge.libsyn.com/81-carolyn-freyer-jones-how-to-set-and-achieve-goals-that-speak-to-your-soul 155: Katja Pantzar - The Finnish Way Through Sisu 138: Kristin MacDermott -- On Learnable Resilience Skills to Improve the Quality of Your Life

Available On: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify Dr. Dawn DeSylvia, MD, is a nationally recognized family medicine doctor with over 15 years of experience in Functional and Integrative Medicine. After completing her training at UCLA, Dr. DeSylvia worked at the UCLA Malibu Clinic, Santa Monica Hospital, and served on the faculty at UCLA. In 2013, she opened The Center for Whole Health, where she works with patients to identify the root causes of disease and foster optimal health. As founder and medical director of The Center for Whole Health, it is Dr. DeSylvia’s mission to: - Provide exceptional integrative medicine that is consistent in care and integrity - Bridge the work of advanced medicine with cellular biology, neuroscience, and contemplative wisdom - Bring forth the most advanced interventions available in health and wellbeingWant to learn more about functional medicine... and about the key areas of your body to focus on and address to have the biggest impact on your health and well-being? --- I'm super excited about this episode... mostly because Dr. Dawn is my personal functional medicine doctor, meaning that for the first time in my life, I had the opportunity to sit down for a long conversation about health and well-being with my own doctor! And by the way, she didn't disappoint... In this episode, we dive deep into things like the brain, the gut, and the role that "belief" plays in healing. I really appreciate her humanness, and willingness to slow down and describe things in a way that "the rest of us" can understand and relate to. This was a great conversation... I know you're going to love this episode!! Enjoy! Want to help us spread the word? If you learn useful things from the podcast, or simply enjoy the conversations, please share it this link to it with a friend - www.wholelifechallenge.com/podcast Your reviews matter... and are greatly appreciated! Your written reviews in iTunes go a long way in helping us get the word out. Here's a link to make it easy - bit.ly/breakingordinary. Thanks in advance for your help and support! Episode Notes / Links What is functional medicine?Negativity bias - what you believe affects your ability to healBruce Lipton - The Biology of Belief- what determines a cell’s fate? How what you believe matters.Rick Hanson - “Wired for Happiness” - the brain is like Teflon to positive experience and velcro to negative experienceActivating your parasympathetic nervous systemBreaking Ordinary - “a call to arms”We want to listen to the whispers from the body, not just pay attention to when it screams.Plutchik’s Wheel of EmotionsHow language and consciousness affects your experience of lifeJim Kwik- speed learning - Why you want to be a thermostat, not a thermometer.The two questions Dr. Dawn always starts with when working with a new patient.EMF’s and how that contributes to stress and inflammationThe impact of toxic heavy metals in the body and why you should care.Why you should get rid of your mercury fillings.How chelation therapy works to remove heavy metals.The two most important areas to focus on to keep yourself healthy: nutrition & gut healthWhy food quality matters… not just macrosMake 80% of immune cells in our gutWhat is “leaky gut” and how it affects your health - a simplified breakdown.How toxins and inflammatory chemicals get into your bloodstream and liver from your gut (large intestine).A healthy immune system is built to handle the toxins (like lime, parasites, mold, etc) we get from our environment. However, when our system gut is impaired and dysfunctional, we can’t handle them, and they “get through” (leaky gut) into our body, liver, heart, brain.Why gluten is so inflammatory in the United States (hint: glyphosate, Monsanto).Your body’s ability to handle “a five-alarm fire” is determined by what you’re doing when you don’t have a five-alarm fire going on (daily habits).Chronic Inflammatory Response SyndromeAnger work -...

Available On: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify Max Shank is an eternal student, scientist, and artist of life and movement. Through his gym, books, videos, and online coaching programs, he helps tens of thousands of people get just a little better every day. He is a master of simplifying complex subjects and breaking them down into easy, effective actions. He loves to learn new skills like music, languages, juggling, and hand balancing. Episode Notes From Andy: Abrupt start - jumping into a conversation about ozone generator for his cold plungeCrux of the perishable skill as it applies to stimulus like walking barefoot and cold waterWhy you should think “intention before ingestion.”If complexity equals cost, what are you making complex that is costing you more than you need to spend?Why you should consider spending more time exercising, playing, and working out on hills.How looking for the right set/rep combination is missing the point.Learn this simple phrase to help frame your self-talk and be more honest with yourself. BooksThe Inner Game of Tennis by W. Timothy GallweyWhat to say when you talk to yourself by Shad HelmstetterThe Power of Yet by Esther P Cordova“Freedom is understanding the truth of necessity”How do you know what you need? What is a want vs. what is a need?Your outer game vs. inner gameStarvation and Fasting look almost the same until the very end.Considering the 3-3-3 rule.Why “shoulding” others is something to consider giving up.What is more important, attention or intelligence?Why a simple timer is one of the best tools you can use for your fitness. Max’s 5-minute flowWhy you should roll around on the hard ground and how you should do it.The six daily essential types of movement: jump/bounce, roll, carry, walk/run, hang, crawl. Framing your suffering - how your ego gets in the way.The reward mechanism behind modern technology and how we are all falling victim to the habit cycleUsing the “3-feel Test” to help you see what is truly important for you.Being an adult is the ability to be totally bored while remaining perfectly still.Why are we attached to numbers - weight, length, time?How many days old are you? I am 19,156 days old! (https://www.daysold.com/) Enjoy! FORWARD TO A FRIEND - If you enjoy the podcast, please help us spread the word by sharing it. LEAVE A REVIEW - Your written reviews in iTunes go a long way in helping us get the word out. Here's a link to make it easy - bit.ly/breakingordinary. Thanks in advance for your help and support! Connect with Max MaxShank.comMax Shank@MaxShank@MaxShank Questions? Feedback? podcast@wholelifechallenge.com@andypetranek@andypetranek@andypetranek REVIEW THE PODCAST ON iTUNES - bit.ly/breakingordinary If you liked this episode, try these: 116: Danny Clark — Danny Clark - On What is Natural Movement and Why You Should Care80: Ryan Hurst - Founder of GMB: On Training with Purpose, Fun and Playfulness

Available On: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify Natalie Dau is the founder of the RockstarFit App and global media platform www.thedailyescape.com. She is a Reebok sponsored athlete and an ambassador for brands including ClassPass, Polar Watches, SportsSingapore and Soneva Resorts. She is a qualified trainer, a Training for Warriors coach and has accreditation in sports nutrition. Natalie has represented Asia in multiple Spartan Race World Championships, is an avid podium-placed runner, Asia Masters Athletics Champion and an Asia age-group CrossFit champion. She regularly appears in the media across Asia, and is a host/emcee, guest speaker, and trainer at many events. She is also dedicated to giving back to her local community, donating her time to charities and working with government committees. Enjoy! FORWARD TO A FRIEND - If you enjoy the podcast, please help us spread the word by sharing it. LEAVE A REVIEW - Your written reviews in iTunes go a long way in helping us get the word out. Here's a link to make it easy - bit.ly/breakingordinary. Thanks in advance for your help and support! Connect with Natalie www.nataliedau.com and www.thedailyescape.comRockstarArms@eockstararms@rockstararms Questions? Feedback? podcast@wholelifechallenge.com@andypetranek@andypetranek@andypetranek REVIEW THE PODCAST ON iTUNES - bit.ly/breakingordinary If you liked this episode, try these: 111: Samantha Peszek - Olympic Medalist and Unstoppable Force 88: Val Voboril - How to Succeed at Motherhood, Happiness, and CrossFit

Available On: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify Gabrielle Reece is a world-renowned athlete, TV personality, New York Times bestselling author, model, wife and mother. At 6’ 3” the former professional beach volleyball player, and Nike's first female spokeswoman, Gabby Reece is the definition of both athleticism and feminine beauty. Gabby’s commanding presence, passion for healthy living, and fitness expertise makes her a popular leader in the world of health and wellness. Gabby took up volleyball in 11th grade when she and her mother moved to St. Petersburg, Florida. Gabby received an athletic scholarship to Florida State University, where she majored in communications and played two seasons of volleyball before booking modeling jobs in New York. In the spring of 2012, Gabby was invited to Washington, DC to speak at the annual TEDMED conference on innovations in health and medicine. Gabby also has an ongoing relationship with the American Heart Association Teaching Gardens, an initiative that benefits needy schools through the planting of organic gardens. Together with her husband, surfing legend Laird Hamilton, Gabby empowers people to take responsibility for their own health. She is a truly authentic example of healthy living. Gabby and Laird’s inspiring lifestyle led to the launch of an all-encompassing fitness program called XPT in early 2016. The objective of XPT is to increase human performance with a training approach modeled after Laird and Gabby’s day-to-day fitness regimen. From Andy: Wow...how do you follow that up? In spending over an hour one-on-one with Gabby, it's clear to me why she has achieved the level of success she has in life. She's honest, real, willing to talk about just about anything, and is always looking both inward to grow and learn, and outward to serve others. A few of highlights from the show: You're going to love every moment of this one...promise! FORWARD TO A FRIEND - If you enjoy the podcast, please help us spread the word by sharing it. LEAVE A REVIEW - Your written reviews in iTunes go a long way in helping us get the word out. Here's a link to make it easy - bit.ly/breakingordinary. Thanks in advance for your help and support! Episode Links Byron KatieXPTlife.comDiaphragmatic breathingPaul ChekLaird SuperfoodNutiva Red Palm OilDavid Goggins - “Can’t Hurt Me” Connect with https://www.xptlife.com/@OfficialGabbyReece@GabbyReece@GabbyReece Questions? Feedback? podcast@wholelifechallenge.com@andypetranek@andypetranek@andypetranek REVIEW THE PODCAST ON iTUNES - bit.ly/breakingordinary If you liked this episode, try these: 138: Kristin MacDermott -- On Learnable Resilience Skills to Improve the Quality of Your Life 124: Jill Miller — Erase Pain, Improve Mobility and Live Better in Body and Mind

Available On: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify Dai Manuel is a super dad, dating his wife and currently doing life with his family around the globe. He is also an award-winning digital thought leader and author, executive performance coach, and certified lifestyle mentor who empowers people to lead a FUN-ctionally fit life through education, encouragement, and community. Dai models his work based on 5 F's: Fitness, Family, Finances, Faith with an overarching roof of FUN, built on a rock-solid foundation of Health. As a former partner and Chief Operating Officer of a multi-million dollar retail company, a keynote speaker, brand ambassador, competitive athlete, a family man, and community leader, Dai knows the struggle of the juggle and keeping his health and happiness a priority. Dai and his family are on a mission to impact one million role models through education, entertainment, and inspiration by 2020. From Andy: Dai is one of the funnest people I know to hang out with - even if it's on a video chat 6,000 miles away. He's on a mission to help others change their lives, like he did when he was a young man. In the episode we talk about things like growing up as a fat kid, being suicidal, how he turned that all around, being a responsible leader of your family, self-care, the power of public declaration, and much, much more. Enjoy this one... I know you will! FORWARD TO A FRIEND - If you enjoy the podcast, please help us spread the word by sharing it. LEAVE A REVIEW - Your written reviews in iTunes go a long way in helping us get the word out. Here's a link to make it easy - bit.ly/breakingordinary. Thanks in advance for your help and support! Episode Links Dai Manuel's Whole Life Fitness Manifesto300 (the film)Mobility WODROMWODInsight Timer (app)EvernoteToastmastersCrossFit GamesVipassana Meditation Connect with Dai Website www.DaiManuel.comFacebook:www.facebook.com/daimanuelTwitter:www.twitter.com/daimanuelInstagram:www.instagram.com/daimanuelLinkedin:https://www.linkedin.com/in/daimanuel/ Questions? Feedback? podcast@wholelifechallenge.com@andypetranek@andypetranek@andypetranek REVIEW THE PODCAST ON iTUNESbit.ly/breakingordinary If you liked this episode, try these: 144: Katie Wells — The Wellness Mama 151: Kevin Rose — Lifehacker, Visionary Tech Investor, and CEO of Oak Meditation

Available On: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify In his early 20s, David Meltzer was at the top of his game in the business world and lecturing around the globe. But despite his success, he felt that something was missing, and the multimillionaire went on a rapid downward spiral that ended in bankruptcy. It was only then that David realized, in order to revive and thrive, he needed to blend spirituality with business. He started to meld his newfound life and business outlook as CEO to sports super agent Leigh Steinberg (played by Tom Cruise in Jerry Maguire), and the result of his transformation is the remarkably successful venture - Sports 1 Marketing - that he began with Pro Football Hall of Fame Quarterback Warren Moon. From Andy: Dave is one of the most successful people I've ever had the opportunity of having on the podcast, and also one of the most genuine, relatable, and generous. It came as a surprise to me given the cutthroat, ego-driven business (sports agent, deal making, sports marketing) for which he's at the top of the game. He was incredibly open, sharing the behind the scenes story about getting Steve Young signed to the 49ers when they already had Joe Montana as their go-to guy, and also sharing his "secrets" of negotiating and deal-making. He's driven to succeed, but also to give, serve, and contribute to humanity - which he's doing every day. Enjoy! FORWARD TO A FRIEND - If you enjoy the podcast, please help us spread the word by sharing it. LEAVE A REVIEW - Your written reviews in iTunes go a long way in helping us get the word out. Here's a link to make it easy - bit.ly/breakingordinary. Thanks in advance for your help and support! Episode Links Leigh Steinberg - the guy you might know as Jerry McGuireEd DeBartoloJoe MontanaSteve YoungBlaine BartlettBob ProctorJack CanfieldSteve WynnWarren MoonUnstoppable Foundation- David’s FoundationThe Playbook- David’s podcast Connect with Dave Websitedavidmeltzer11@davidmeltzer@davidmeltzer Questions? Feedback? podcast@wholelifechallenge.com@andypetranek@andypetranek@andypetranek REVIEW THE PODCAST ON iTUNES - bit.ly/breakingordinary If you liked this episode, try these: 137: Sam Morris – Zen Warrior 147: Kevin Carter — Father, Philanthropist, Former NFL Player & Super Bowl Champion

Available On: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify Dr. Ian Dunican has over twenty years of international professional experience in health and safety in the military, resources sector, utilities, rail industries, and with elite sporting organisations. Ian has also been featured on the health report on ABC radio, ABC radio national and numerous podcasts. Dr. Dunican has appeared on ABC television in Australia and was a TEDx Perth speaker in 2017 and is a regular reviewer for scientific peer-reviewed journals. He is currently the Director of Melius Consulting/Sleep4Performance and has recently completed a PhD with the University of Western Australia (UWA), where he worked with elite sporting organisations and athletes to optimize performance. Some of his clients are Olympic and elite athletes with the Australian Institute of Sport (AIS), professional teams in Super Rugby, basketball, Australian Rules Football (AFL), and martial arts (judo, boxing, grappling). As an ultra-runner, Ian has completed numerous mountain ultra-runs in Australia and the infamous Leadville 100 mile, an off-road foot race in the Colorado Rockies where he ran for 27 hrs 42 minutes! Ian is a regular speaker at universities and international conferences in sports performance and physiology and regularly contributes articles to publications such as with the Australian Financial Review. From Andy: Ian is on a mission - to help people figure out why they might be having trouble sleeping, and then to help them figure out what the heck to do about it. His approach is far-reaching and holistic, as there really isn’t any part of life that is not capable of contributing to poor sleep hygiene. Our conversation was broad including topics like email, social media, apps, and fitness trackers, to your schedule, travel, sleep apnea, Netflix, and caffeine. If you don’t come away from this podcast with at least one fresh new idea about something that you could do to improve your sleep, you weren’t listening hard enough. Enjoy! FORWARD TO A FRIEND - If you enjoy the podcast, please help us spread the word by sharing it. LEAVE A REVIEW - Your written reviews in iTunes go a long way in helping us get the word out. Here's a link to make it easy - bit.ly/breakingordinary. Thanks in advance for your help and support! Episode Links Power Speed EnduranceDeep Workby Cal NewportWhy You Should Quit Social Media- Ted Talk by Cal NewportMatthew Walker on the Joe Rogan Podcast, founder of the Center for Human Sleep ScienceSleep for Performance PodcastPatrick McKeown on the Breaking Ordinary Podcast, author of the Oxygen Advantage Connect with Ian Sleep4performance.comEmail:iandunican@sleep4perform.com.auInstagram: @sleep4perform@sleep4performFacebook: Ian Dunican Questions? Feedback? podcast@wholelifechallenge.com@andypetranek@andypetranek@andypetranek REVIEW THE PODCAST ON iTUNESbit.ly/breakingordinary If you liked this episode, try these: 74: Dr. Kirk Parsley - Get Sleep! Advice from a Navy SEAL 85: Dr. Steve Orma - On Sleep, Insomnia, and the Establishment of a Bedtime Ritual

Available On: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify Dr. Sean Pastuch is the Founder and CEO of Active Life Rx where he is on a mission to change the way Active people improve their soft tissue and joint health. Dr. Sean believes that the way to make healthcare inspiring again is to get it out of the doctor’s office and into the gym. With help from his team, Dr. Sean has been able to help people remotely, from all walks of life avoid surgery and work towards elite performance through coaching and programming. In his own words, "I am passionate as can be about coaching other people reach their potential be it intellectually, in business, or physically. This is especially true for my thrill for parenting. I feel like this is the masterpiece coaching job of my career and there is nothing I take more pride in than seeing something I taught one of my daughters take shape and provide them value in one way or another. In his daily practice, Dr. Sean treats professional and recreational athletes alike to get them back on the field or in the gym. He is also well practiced in treating patients with little or no athletic background who simply want to live an active lifestyle. He has also provided trainer education programs for Equinox Fitness Clubs, New York Sports Clubs, The Fitness Education Institute, and The Personal Training Institute and coaches classes at CrossFit King of Island Park, NY. From Andy: What a refreshing conversation. I love Dr. Sean’s mission - keeping people out of the doctor’s office and in their lives, pursuing what they love. I also love the way he is unabashedly out in the world pursuing it, preaching it, living it. One of the things I love about Sean is his humbleness. In fact, you’d be hard pressed to ever hear him touting the fact that he is, in fact, a doctor of chiropractic, as he feels it interferes with clients expectations of what that title means, and with his ability to help people heal through whatever means necessary. Two of the coolest parts of the convo - 1) understanding the underlying “why” behind any client’s goals, and 2) our discussion of the difference between flexibility and mobility. It’s probably not what you think (but you’ll have to listen in to find out). Enjoy! FORWARD TO A FRIEND - If you enjoy the podcast, please help us spread the word by sharing it. LEAVE A REVIEW - Your written reviews in iTunes go a long way in helping us get the word out. Here's a link to make it easy - bit.ly/breakingordinary. Thanks in advance for your help and support! Episode Links Active Life RXNational Pro Grid LeagueLife Center ChiropracticDr. Kelly StarrettMarc ProMatt Fitzgerald Interview - Breaking OrdinaryCentral Governor Model of Exercise Connect with Dr. Sean Activeliferx.com@activeliferxActive Life RxThe Active LifeThe Active Life Podcast Questions? Feedback? podcast@wholelifechallenge.com@andypetranek@andypetranek@andypetranek REVIEW THE PODCAST ON iTUNES - bit.ly/breakingordinary If you liked this episode, try these: 106: Aaron Alexander — Change Your Body, Change Your Life 67: Charles Staley - Secrets of a World-renowned Trainer

Available On: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify Bart Yasso, known as the “Mayor of Running,” is the now-retired Runner's World Chief Running Officer, and author of My Life on the Run and Race Everything. In addition to his induction into the Running USA Hall of Champions, Yasso was recently inducted into the Road Runners Club of America Distance Running Hall of Fame. Yasso started running in the late '70s on a whim. Finding it both easy and natural, he fell in love with the sport for its measurability and simplicity. A decade and thousands of miles later, in 1987, he joined the staff of Runner's World. He was also the creator of a marathon training workout called Yasso 800s that has become known around the world as a legit track training workout for marathons. Here's how it works: Take your marathon time, but instead of looking at it as hh:mm, look at it as mm:ss, then do 10 x 800m intervals with a 400m rest interval. (Example: A marathon time of 3 hrs and 30 min becomes 3 min and 30 seconds. So you'd do your 800's at that 3:30 pace). He is one of the few people to have completed races on all seven continents from the Antarctica marathon to the Mt. Kilimanjaro marathon. In 1987, Yasso won the U.S. National Biathlon Long Course Championship and won the Smoky Mountain Marathon in 1998. He has also completed the Ironman five times and the Badwater 146 through Death Valley. He has also cycled, unsupported and by himself, across the country twice. From Andy: This conversation really surprised me. Not that I didn't think it would be good, but that I had no idea what to expect as I didn't know the extent of Bart's experience and reach in the world of running. There isn't much he hasn't done, and his love for the sport really comes out. He's also quick to point out that by far the most meaningful experiences he's had over his varied career have had everything to do with the people and the difference he's made for them, runners or not. His stories about the Badwater 146 and cycling cross-country are unforgettable, as are the things he shares about the people whose lives he's touched and who have touched his. Enjoy this one. I sure did! FORWARD TO A FRIEND - If you enjoy the podcast, please help us spread the word by sharing it. LEAVE A REVIEW - Your written reviews in iTunes go a long way in helping us get the word out. Here's a link to make it easy - bit.ly/breakingordinary. Thanks in advance for your help and support! Episode Links Badwater 135Comrades UltramarathonRome MarathonWillie MtoloRace Across America (RAAM)StravaAmby BurfootYasso 800s Connect with BartYasso@bartyassobart@bartyasso.comBart's website Questions? Feedback? podcast@wholelifechallenge.com@andypetranek@andypetranek@andypetranek REVIEW THE PODCAST ON iTUNES - bit.ly/breakingordinary If you liked this episode, try these: 115: Danny Dreyer - You, Too, Can Love Running 127: Steven Sashen - On Why You Should Consider Running Barefoot, with, or Without, Your Shoes On

Available On: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify Ara Katz and Raja Dhir founded Seed, an ecosystem of kindred scientists, doctors, innovators, entrepreneurs, and translational storytellers from around the world. Seed's members collectively believe in the potential of the microbiome to improve human and planetary health. Raja Dhir leads Seed’s research strategy and academic collaborations, clinical trial design, product development, and intellectual property strategy. Raja is the architect of the Seed Platform and has unique expertise in translating scientific research for product development – including patented inventions to stabilize sensitive compounds to improve human microbiome diversity and inflammatory biomarkers. Raja is also Co-Chair of Seed’s Scientific Advisory Board where Seed focuses on solving complex ecological problems including honeybee colony collapse, plastic degradation, and soil fertility through bacteria. Raja serves on the Editorial Board for the scientific journal, Microbiome, on the Industry Advisory Committee for the International Scientific Association for Probiotics and Prebiotics (ISAPP). Ara Katz's breastfeeding experience led her to the microbiome and inspired a personal mission to explore the importance of microbes and how they can impact the health of our bodies, our children and our planet. Ara previously Co-Founded and served as CMO of Spring, mobile commerce marketplace. Ara has been a fellow at the MIT Media Lab’s Center for Future Storytelling and CCA’s DesignMBA program, and was named in Marie Claire’s “The New Guard: The 50 Most Influential Women in America”, listed on Business Insider’s “Silicon Alley Top 100” and “36 Rockstar Women in NYC Tech”, and was recently included in Create + Cultivate’s 100 List for STEM. From Andy: This was just about the most fun I've ever had in a conversation about some seriously scientific and technical stuff - the human biome and gut. Ara and Raja were so good at taking their vast knowledge and expertise, boiling it down to the things that are most important, and explaining it in a way that a normal layperson can understand. The developments we're making in the research of the microbiome and gut are so exciting and cutting edge - this is a conversation that you've got to take the time to check out! Enjoy! WANT TO GIVE SEED'S PROBIOTIC A TRY? Get 15% off your first order! Click this link and use this coupon code: WholeLifeChallenge15 FORWARD TO A FRIEND - If you enjoy the podcast, please help us spread the word by sharing it. LEAVE A REVIEW - Your written reviews in iTunes go a long way in helping us get the word out. Here's a link to make it easy - bit.ly/breakingordinary. Thanks in advance for your help and support! Episode Links Seed websiteDr. Gregor ReidMother DirtBristol Stool Chart Connect with Ara and Raja @seed@seedhealth Questions? Feedback? podcast@wholelifechallenge.com@andypetranek@andypetranek@andypetranek REVIEW THE PODCAST ON iTUNES - bit.ly/breakingordinary If you enjoyed this podcast, here are some others to check out: 101: Dr. David Perlmutter — The Empowering Neurologist 125: Dr. Jason Fung — Author of The Obesity Code

Available On: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify For Thad Beaty, musician-turned-triathlete, “Music That Moves” is the literal summation of his incredible journey thus far. A guitarist who has spent 9 years with country juggernaut Sugarland, he has shared stages with Lady Gaga, Bon Jovi, Kenny Chesney, Rhianna, and Beyoncé as well as contributing as a writer on albums selling upwards of 10 million copies. After his mother’s diagnosis with colon cancer and his own realization that the rock and roll lifestyle had resulted in his own poor health, he set out on a new journey to reclaim his health, the health of his family, and now, a quickly growing community of triathletes all over the world. Music That Moves was born out of Thad’s journey back to health in all areas of his life. Through the medium of a plant-based diet combined with a goal to compete in an IRONMAN, Thad found himself over 70 pounds lighter and surrounded by fellow athletes and musicians who wanted his help with their own journeys. Never one to do anything halfway, he dove in head first and pursued multiple coaching certifications (USA Triathlon Level 2, USAC Level 2, Training Peaks Level 2, USMS Level 2, Newton Running, Dynamic Movement Assessment,TRX, Spartan SGX, Triathlon Research, and Scheduled to sit for his Nutritionist certification and NSCA CSCS) to better coach the athletes he is leading. After discovering his passion to affect people’s lives for positive change, Thad was asked to be a celebrity mentor on ABC’s Extreme Makeover Weight-loss Edition, helping to coach and train a participant to complete the New Zealand Half-Ironman. From Andy: Thad is one of the most down-to-earth real rock stars that I've ever spoken with. His willingness to get real and raw and share some of the realities of his life made the conversation light, fun, entertaining, and enlightening. He's got a serious passion for helping others change their lives in a similar way to the way he's changed his. You're going to LOVE this one! Enjoy! FORWARD TO A FRIEND - If you enjoy the podcast, please help us spread the word by sharing it. LEAVE A REVIEW - Your written reviews in iTunes go a long way in helping us get the word out. Here's a link to make it easy - bit.ly/breakingordinary. Thanks in advance for your help and support! Episode Links Thad's band's website - SugarlandIronmanUSA TriathlonJohnny Agar—Team Agar Connect with Thad musicthatmoves1@musicthatmoves1@musicthatmoves1 Questions? Feedback? podcast@wholelifechallenge.com@andypetranek@andypetranek@andypetranek REVIEW THE PODCAST ON iTUNES - bit.ly/breakingordinary If you liked this episode, try these: 120: Philip Folsom — The Way Out Is Through, and Your Tribe Will Take You There 150: Tracy Sundlun — Co-Founder of the Rock 'n' Roll Marathon Series Sponsored by: The Good Kitchen One of the best things I’ve ever done is to get prepared, Whole Life Challenge-compliant meals delivered to me during the week. It makes my life so much simpler, eliminates any questions I might have about healthy food for those meals, and reduces the number of decisions I need to make each day. I highly suggest trying it out. It was a game-changer for me. The Good Kitchen will deliver pre-made, chef prepared, WLC-compliant meals (breakfast, lunch, and/or dinner) right to your front door via FedEx. A special offer for podcast listeners: get 15% off your first order. Just use this link: thegoodkitchen.com/wlc

Available On: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify Katja Pantzar is a Helsinki-based writer, editor and broadcast journalist. Her newest book was published in the UK, Germany, and in June 2018 in the USA. It's called The Finnish Way: Finding Courage, Wellness, and Happiness through the Power of Sisu (Tarcher Perigee/Penguin Books). The Finnish Way takes readers on a journey to Finland and explores simple and sensible ways to boost well-being inspired by the Nordic lifestyle ranging from winter swimming and cycling to the Nordic diet – all through the special Finnish concept of courage and resilience called sisu. FROM ANDY: There is something about sisu that is incredibly appealing to me. So much so that after reading Katja's book I started taking cold showers every day simply to inject some sisu into my everyday life. Sisu is easy to manifest in your everyday life, and Katja does a great job revealing that in her book and in our conversation. Yes, you too can benefit from a little sisu in your life. Listen in our conversation for inspiration, ideas, and understanding why. Enjoy! FORWARD TO A FRIEND - If you enjoy the podcast, please help us spread the word by sharing it. LEAVE A REVIEW - Your written reviews in iTunes go a long way in helping us get the word out. Here's a link to make it easy - bit.ly/andypetranekpodcast. Thanks in advance for your help and support! Episode Links Charles Digg's The Power of HabitThe Wim Hoff MethodEmilia Lahti - Sisu Not SilenceDavid Allen - Getting Things Done Connect with Katja KatjaPantzar.comTwitterInstagram Questions? Feedback? podcast@wholelifechallenge.com@andypetranek@andypetranek@andypetranek REVIEW THE PODCAST ON iTUNES - bit.ly/breakingordinary If you liked this episode, try these: 99: David Allen — The Art of Stress-Free Productivity 138: Kristin MacDermott — On Learnable Resilience Skills to Improve the Quality of Your Life Sponsored by: The Good Kitchen One of the best things I’ve ever done is to get prepared, Whole Life Challenge-compliant meals delivered to me during the week. It makes my life so much simpler, eliminates any questions I might have about healthy food for those meals, and reduces the number of decisions I need to make each day. I highly suggest trying it out. It was a game-changer for me. The Good Kitchen will deliver pre-made, chef prepared, WLC-compliant meals (breakfast, lunch, and/or dinner) right to your front door via FedEx. A special offer for podcast listeners: get 15% off your first order. Just use this link: thegoodkitchen.com/wlc

Available On: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify Mark Sisson is founder of Primal Nutrition, LLC and Primal Kitchen, LLC, New York Times Bestselling Author, health and wellness revolutionary, and founder of Mark’s Daily Apple, the #1-ranked blog for over a decade in its health and fitness category. He is also wrote The Primal Blueprint, which was credited with turbocharging the growth of the primal/paleo movement back in 2009. Prior to his life as a health and wellness educator and leader, Mark was a gifted runner and triathlete. In 1980, he qualified for the US Olympic Trials, and earned a 4th place finish in the Hawaii Ironman World Championships. The inhuman amount of training and weekly racing those results required was taking its toll, though. Mark found himself constantly sick or injured. That pushed him to explore nutrition and supplementation as a way to enhance his performance, to support his damaged body, and to bolster his immune system. Mark retired from competition in 1988 and decided to do whatever he could to help others avoid making the kinds of health mistakes that he had made. Mark uses his pre-medical background, degree in biology, and an intense desire to unlock the health secrets that he knew were out there—answers to questions about health, wellness, anti-aging, safe weight-loss, nutrition and supplementation—to find the natural ways of achieving good health for himself and others. FROM ANDY: I'm always stoked to have a recorded conversation with Mark. He and I have been friends for many years, and I always learn something new each time I talk to him. This time was no exception. In fact, in this podcast, we were able to cover topics about each of the WLC's 7 Daily Habits. You'll want to take notes during this one for sure! FORWARD TO A FRIEND - If you enjoy the podcast, please help us spread the word by sharing it. LEAVE A REVIEW - Your written reviews in iTunes go a long way in helping us get the word out. Here's a link to make it easy - bit.ly/breakingordinary. Thanks in advance for your help and support! Connect with Mark Mark's Daily Apple websiteFacebookInstagramTwitter Have a question? Have feedback? Want to connect? Email Andy at podcast@wholelifechallenge.com, or Connect on social media with Andy directly at Twitter, Instagram, or Facebook Leave a podcast review - bit.ly/andypetranekpodcast If you enjoyed this podcast, here are some others to check out: 54: Darya Rose – How to Use Logic and Science to Get Healthy 37: Robb Wolf – Diets, Epigenetics, Longevity, and Going Foodless for 9 Days This episode is brought to you by The Good Kitchen. One of the best things I’ve ever done is to get prepared, Whole Life Challenge-compliant meals delivered to me during the week. It makes my life so much simpler, eliminates any questions I might have about healthy food for those meals, and reduces the number of decisions I need to make each day. I highly suggest trying it out. It was a game-changer for me. The Good Kitchen will deliver pre-made, chef prepared, WLC-compliant meals (breakfast, lunch, and/or dinner) right to your front door via FedEx. A special offer for podcast listeners: get 15% off your first order. Just use this link: thegoodkitchen.com/wlc

Available On: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify Sarah Ballantyne, Ph.D. is the creator of the award-winning online resource ThePaleoMom.com, co-host of the syndicated top-rated The Paleo View Podcast, New York Times bestselling author of Paleo Principles The Paleo Approach The Paleo Approach Cookbook, and The Healing Kitchen; creator of the online program Go To Bed, and creator of the top-rated online course, The Autoimmune Protocol Lecture Series. Sarah earned her doctorate degree in medical biophysics at the age of 26. Sarah’s transition from academic researcher to stay-at-home mom to award-winning and internationally-recognized health advocate and educator was driven by her own health journey, which included losing 120 pounds and using both diet and lifestyle to mitigate and reverse a dozen diagnosed health conditions. As a scientist both by training and by nature, Sarah is deeply interested in understanding how the foods we eat interact with our gut barriers, immune systems, and hormones to influence health. She is also interested in the impact of lifestyle factors like sleep, stress and activity. Her passion for scientific literacy and her talent for distilling scientific concepts into straightforward and accessible explanations form the foundation of her work and her dedication to improving public health. Learn more by checking out Sarah’s website, podcast and books. From Andy: Sarah is as personable as she is smart. She's able to read medical research and understand exactly what it's saying and then translate it for the rest of us so that we can use it to our best benefit. You are going to love her story, as well as the things we discuss about the gut. Enjoy! - Andy Petranek, Whole Life Challenge FORWARD TO A FRIEND - If you enjoy the podcast, please help us spread the word by sharing it. LEAVE A REVIEW - Your written reviews in iTunes go a long way in helping us get the word out. Here's a link to make it easy - bit.ly/breakingordinary. Thanks in advance for your help and support! Connect with Sarah WebsitePodcastBooksFacebookTwitterInstagramPinterest Questions? Feedback? podcast@wholelifechallenge.com@andypetranek@andypetranek@andypetranek REVIEW THE PODCAST ON iTUNES - bit.ly/breakingordinary If you liked this episode, try these: 134: Diana Rodgers – Regenerative Farming, Paleo Nutrition, and Kale vs. Cow 146: Charles Mayfield — Farmer, Father, and Bestselling Author of Paleo Comfort Foods This episode is brought to you by The Good Kitchen. One of the best things I’ve ever done is to get prepared, Whole Life Challenge-compliant meals delivered to me during the week. It makes my life so much simpler, eliminates any questions I might have about healthy food for those meals, and reduces the number of decisions I need to make each day. I highly suggest trying it out. It was a game-changer for me. The Good Kitchen will deliver pre-made, chef prepared, WLC-compliant meals (breakfast, lunch, and/or dinner) right to your front door via FedEx. A special offer for podcast listeners: get 15% off your first order. Just use this link: thegoodkitchen.com/wlc

Available On: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify Paul Greive is making a difference. He's the co-founder and CEO of PastureBird - the country's largest supplier of REAL pasture raised, free-range chicken in the Country. And what do I mean by real? Well, "pasture raised", when you see it on packaging in the market, doesn't mean what you think it does. Here's his story: When Paul got out of the military in 2011 and became a Certified Public Accountant, he decided to do something about his aching joints, arthritis, and constant Motrin use. He'd heard the hype about Paleo but never committed to trying it out. He finally gave it a go and after two weeks he says he felt like a kid again. He could breathe through his nose, his joint pain was gone, energy levels were up, and his sleep returned to normal. His wife and her whole family even jumped on board. People were losing weight, feeling better, and just overall healthier and happier. They were working hard to find good, clean foods and spending a lot of extra money on fancy labels like "grass fed", "free range", "organic", and "antibiotic free". The problem was, the more he learned about labels the more he found that they were complete BS. Free Range chickens never actually went outside, and "Antibiotic Free" birds actually got a bunch of antibiotics. Oh, and organic, that just dealt with a single certification for the feed. Wait, what? He felt cheated, misled, and lied to. Then, in April of 2012, the family sat around together over Easter, joking around about getting some chickens for the backyard. Nobody had any type of a farming or livestock background, so Paul thought it was just a big joke. But sure enough, his brother in law Rob disappeared from the room for about 5 minutes and returned with a big grin on his face. "Guys, I just ordered 50 chicks and they'll be here in 2 weeks" Rob said. From Andy: The more I learned about Paul's story, the more disturbed I became about the quality of the food that's on my family's dinner table. Do the chicken and eggs we spend good money on based on their labels actually meet the standards that a "reasonable person" would expect from the words "free range" and "pasture raised"? Listen, learn, and get inspired to take action! FORWARD TO A FRIEND - If you enjoy the podcast, please help us spread the word by sharing it. LEAVE A REVIEW - Your written reviews in iTunes go a long way in helping us get the word out. Here's a link to make it easy - bit.ly/breakingordinary. Thanks in advance for your help and support! Connect with Paul Primal Pastures website@PrimalPastures@PrimalPasturesPrimalPastures Questions? Feedback? podcast@wholelifechallenge.com@andypetranek@andypetranek@andypetranek REVIEW THE PODCAST ON iTUNES - bit.ly/breakingordinary If you liked this episode, try these: 119: Bobby Gill — Can Cows Save the World? 134: Diana Rodgers – Regenerative Farming, Paleo Nutrition, and Kale vs. Cow This episode is brought to you by The Good Kitchen. One of the best things I’ve ever done is to get prepared, Whole Life Challenge-compliant meals delivered to me during the week. It makes my life so much simpler, eliminates any questions I might have about healthy food for those meals, and reduces the number of decisions I need to make each day. I highly suggest trying it out. It was a game-changer for me. The Good Kitchen will deliver pre-made, chef prepared, WLC-compliant meals (breakfast, lunch, and/or dinner) right to your front door via FedEx. A special offer for podcast listeners: get 15% off your first order. Just use this link: thegoodkitchen.com/wlc

Available On: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify Kevin Rose is a pioneer in the tech world. He's been named in the list of the Top 25 Angel Investors (Bloomberg), Top 25 Web Celebrities (Forbes), Top 25 Most Influential People on the Web (Time and Businessweek), and Top 35 Innovators under 35 (MIT). He founded the social news site Digg, was a general partner at Google Ventures (investing in companies like Ripple, Medium, and Nextdoor), and prior to that started investing as an Angel investor in Twitter, Facebook and Square. From Andy: The thing I love about Kevin, and the real reason he's on this podcast, is his playful and experimental spirit - his approach to life that has him trying and failing over and again, until he figures out for himself what works (and what doesn't). To me, he exemplifies 'Beginner's Mind' (Shoshin) as he stumbles his way forward in life, listening, learning, growing, and staying humble. He uses this approach with all that he does, including developing a really fantastic (and free) meditation app that I use daily called Oak. He has also been part of in the self-optimization world for many years, researching and learning a ton about his own health metrics, testing, biomarkers, genetic markers, and life-optimization. All of this he's incredibly open with and full of suggestions for how to get started down this path in your own life (and the importance of doing so.) Enjoy this one - I know you will! FORWARD TO A FRIEND - If you enjoy the podcast, please help us spread the word by sharing it. LEAVE A REVIEW - Your written reviews in iTunes go a long way in helping us get the word out. Here's a link to make it easy - bit.ly/breakingordinary. Thanks in advance for your help and support! Connect with Kevin kevinrose.com@kevinrose@kevinrose@the.kevin.rose Questions? Feedback? podcast@wholelifechallenge.com@andypetranek@andypetranek@andypetranek REVIEW THE PODCAST ON iTUNES - bit.ly/breakingordinary If you liked this episode, try these: 80: Ryan Hurst — How to Exercise with Purpose and Playfulness 92: Mark England — The Surprising Tool You Already Have to Change Your Life This episode is brought to you by The Good Kitchen. One of the best things I’ve ever done is to get prepared, Whole Life Challenge-compliant meals delivered to me during the week. It makes my life so much simpler, eliminates any questions I might have about healthy food for those meals, and reduces the number of decisions I need to make each day. I highly suggest trying it out. It was a game-changer for me. The Good Kitchen will deliver pre-made, chef prepared, WLC-compliant meals (breakfast, lunch, and/or dinner) right to your front door via FedEx. A special offer for podcast listeners: get 15% off your first order. Just use this link: thegoodkitchen.com/wlc

Available On: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify Tracy Sundlun is best known as one of the co-founders of the Rock 'n' Roll Marathon Series, which with his involvement, grew to 29 events in 15 states, Washington DC, and 6 other countries, in which over 500,000 runners competed each year. He has over 4 decades of involvement in virtually every facet of the sports of track and field, long distance running, and race walking. His experience includes everything from coaching (including at Georgetown, Colorado, USC, and over 100 athletes going to the Olympic Games); to sports administration, event creation (founder of the National Scholastic Indoor and Outdoor Track & Field Championships), and athlete representation, sponsorship sales, and charity fundraising. Tracy has been at the forefront of a number of the sports’ innovations and advances over the past 40 years, including the1974 effort to introduce and involve chiropractic in track & field, in 1980 when he initiated the first test case with prize money and above-the-table appearance money in long distance running, and more recently in 2005, he created the first Wave Start plans for marathons and half marathons to better manage the density and comfort of runners on the course. Tracy's actions, events, and programs have always epitomized his core belief that sport should positively impact all of society and look to include as opposed to exclude, involving all constituencies and athletes of all ages and abilities. His recent accolades include induction into the Running USA Hall of Champions and being named head manager of the United States Men’s Track & Field Team for the 2016 Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro Tracy now runs Everything Running, a small consulting company focused on “anything and everything track and field, running, and race walking." From Andy: It's rare these days that you get a chance to sit down and hear stories from a true legend, leader, and innovator in a modern sport. I consider myself incredibly fortunate to have had the opportunity to do just this with Tracy Sundlun. His stories are mesmerizing, as he takes me back to times in the running world when things that we take for granted today were totally non-existent. This is modern-history (that isn't done yet) and storytelling at it's finest. ENJOY! FORWARD TO A FRIEND - If you enjoy the podcast, please help us spread the word by sharing it. LEAVE A REVIEW - Your written reviews in iTunes go a long way in helping us get the word out. Here's a link to make it easy - bit.ly/breakingordinary. Thanks in advance for your help and support! Connect with Tracy Rock 'n' Roll MarathonTracy Sundlun@TracySundlun Questions? Feedback? podcast@wholelifechallenge.com@andypetranek@andypetranek@andypetranek REVIEW THE PODCAST ON iTUNES - bit.ly/breakingordinary If you liked this episode, try these: 115: Danny Dreyer — You, Too, Can Love Running 127: Steven Sashen – On Why You Should Consider Running Barefoot – With or Without Your Shoes On Image of Tracy Sundlun speaking courtesy of Phillips Exeter Academy This episode is brought to you by The Good Kitchen. One of the best things I’ve ever done is to get prepared, Whole Life Challenge-compliant meals delivered to me during the week. It makes my life so much simpler, eliminates any questions I might have about healthy food for those meals, and reduces the number of decisions I need to make each day. I highly suggest trying it out. It was a game-changer for me. The Good Kitchen will deliver pre-made, chef prepared, WLC-compliant meals (breakfast, lunch, and/or dinner) right to your front door via FedEx. A special offer for podcast listeners: get 15% off your first order. Just use this link: thegoodkitchen.com/wlc

Available On: iTunes | Google Play | Stitcher | Spotify Dr. Mark Goulston is a psychiatrist, a mentor to top executives and CEOs, bestselling author, and is considered to be the world's number one expert in deep listening and influence. His book, Just Listen, is the top book on listening in the world. He teaches listening for empathy around the world to highly diverse groups of people including FBI and SWAT hostage negotiators, coaches, teachers and educators, and recently in Moscow to over 400 managers and CEOs from the Russian Federation. Mark's other six books include Get Out of Your Own Way, first published in 1996, which has been in the top 20 self-help books at Amazon for the past ten years. His current focus is assisting high-performers win in business without losing at life. His book, PTSD for Dummies serves as a foundation for his teaching and training of traumatized people to heal and thrive. From Andy: The empathy with which Mark listens is really like a superpower. The cool thing is that you can learn it too (he teaches us how). He calls it "listening for" instead of "listening to." He also has a technique called the "Fud Crud" intervention. It's really about dealing with what lies underneath anger, upset, and sadness... disappointment. These are just two of the methods/techniques we talk about during the interview. My take... if you get good at even just one of these, it has the power to transform every relationship in your life. Seriously. Listen up and sharpen your pencils... I hope you enjoy this one as much as I did. Thanks, Dr. Mark!! FORWARD TO A FRIEND - If you enjoy the podcast, please help us spread the word by sharing it. LEAVE A REVIEW - Your written reviews in iTunes go a long way in helping us get the word out. Here's a link to make it easy - bit.ly/breakingordinary. Thanks in advance for your help and support! Connect with Mark MarkGoulston.com@MarkGoulston@markgoulston Questions? Feedback? Email Andy at podcast@wholelifechallenge.com, or Connect on social media with Andy directly at Twitter, Instagram, or Facebook Leave a podcast review - bit.ly/andypetranekpodcast If you liked this episode, try these: 98: Dr. Ron Hulnick — The Keys to Improving the Experience of Your Life 138: Kristin MacDermott – On Learnable Resilience Skills to Improve the Quality of Your Life This episode is brought to you by The Good Kitchen. One of the best things I’ve ever done is to get prepared, Whole Life Challenge-compliant meals delivered to me during the week. It makes my life so much simpler, eliminates any questions I might have about healthy food for those meals, and reduces the number of decisions I need to make each day. I highly suggest trying it out. It was a game-changer for me. The Good Kitchen will deliver pre-made, chef prepared, WLC-compliant meals (breakfast, lunch, and/or dinner) right to your front door via FedEx. A special offer for podcast listeners: get 15% off your first order. Just use this link: thegoodkitchen.com/wlc