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No finesse, just grinding out our opinions on Hockey and Hockey related news.

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No finesse, just grinding out our opinions on Hockey and Hockey related news.




Episode 135 - The Bones to Pick

The guys are back as the Stanley Cup playoffs near the end, with at most 2 games left. They touch on the news of the week including Joel having multiple bones to pick and: - The home team has won every game in the final so far. Will it continue? - Sidney Crosby and P.K. Subban got into a wrestling match in Game 5. Was the punishment sufficient? - Who will win the Stanley Cup? The also start to preview the NHL offseason, talking about: - Shayne Gostisbehere has a new 6 year contract. What...


Episode 132 - The Lebroni Karlsson

The guys are back as they break down the Conference finals, including: - The injuries to Ryan Johansen and Mike Fisher have the Nashville Predator's backs against the wall. Can they hold off the Anaheim Ducks in a best of 3? - The Predator's anthem singer is upset. But can anyone remember his name? - The Pittsburgh Penguins finally made the switch in net. Has Marc Andre Fleury played his last game for the Penguins? - How big of a difference maker is Erik Karlsson for the Ottawa Senators?...


Episode 129 -The Price of Losing

The guys are back as they recap the end to the 1st round of the Stanley Cup playoffs, including: - Joel's feelings about the end of the season for his Toronto Maple Leafs - Has the Montreal Canadiens window closed? What do they do this offseason to best prepare for the future? - After a trip to the Finals last year the Sharks are now out in the first round. What does this mean for their franchise? They also preview the second round of the playoffs, looking at The Senators vs Rangers,...


Episode 121 - The Star Fox

The guys are back and Joel has some very kind words to say about our friends at The Listening Party Podcast. They also break down the dealings at the trade deadline, focusing on the Shattenkirk, Filppula, and Lazar deals. They also touch on the news of the week, including: - The Vegas Golden Knights being officially open for business - Eddie Lack being called out by coach Bill Peters - Is Patrick Kane currently the best player in the NHL? - Josh Ho Sang wearing #66 and should numbers be...


Episode 114 - The Oil Replacement

The guys are a man short as Mike Bonn from Scuttle puck joins Carl this week talking through the goings on of the week, including: - All Star Game roster announcement - Players fighting against their long time teams - How sad do the Avs make Carl? - A recap/preview of the Oilers - How did Gary Bettman screw us this week? - They hand out the midseason awards (Hart, Vezina, Norris, Jack Adams, Calder) They also find out your picks for the Eli Manning of the NHL and pick the Pavel Bure's of...


Episode 113 - The Eli Waterfalls

The guys are back as they start the show by trying to figure out which NHL player has a career that mirrors that of Eli Manning. They also: - wrap up the 2017 World Junior Championships - preview the changes to jerseys next season, including the removal of 3rd jerseys - find out how sad the Avs make Carl, including some trade talk - talk All Star Game captains and pick their own Western division teams - learn how Gary Bettman screwed us this week - relive the Blue Jackets winning streak...


Episode 112 - The Highs and Bettmans

The guys are back from their Christmas vacation with Joel getting to start 2017 celebrating the Leaf's victory in the Centennial Classic. They also touch on the news ending 2016, including: - Jaroslav Halak being put on waivers - Matt Murray's injury - Jack Eichel calling out his Sabres' teammates - The Bluejackets and Wild having the streakest game ever - Chris Pronger somehow still playing in an alumni game while being on an NHL roster - How sad the Avalanche make Carl They also recap...


The Christmas Special

The guys are back and ready to celebrate Christmas! They talk about their favorite Christmas movies, food and gifts, as well as their favorite hockey moments of 2016 and look ahead to the rest of the 2016-17 NHL season. Twitter: Facebook: Email:


Episode 111 - The 2016 Finale

The guys are back as they bring the final (regular) episode of 2016. In it they talk about the start of the World Juniors, Babcock's love of Freddy Gauthier, the struggles of making ice in Carolina, how sad the Avalanche make Carl this week, the Eakin suspension for his hit on Lundqvist, find out how Bettman screwed us this week and pick the remaining Pavel Bures for 2016. Twitter: Facebook: Email:...


Episode 109 - The Berry Talk

The guys are back as Carl got to see Auston Matthews and the Toronto Maple Leafs in person and was slightly underwhelmed. The guys touch on a variety of topics including: - The Flames 8-3 win and if they're starting to turn things around? - Switching the points system to use a 3 point game - Who will eventually be the Ovechkin to Crosby's McDavid? - Shane Doan's legacy - The Penguins goaltending situation - An expansion draft "Who will be protected?" rabbit hole Two new segments debut...


Episode 107 - The Zetterbourne

The guys are back and joined by Mike Laybourne as they talk about the rash of injuries in the league, including Stamkos, Gaudreau and Hall, and try to decide the status of the Flames' rebuild. The NHL announced changes to the All Star Game format and it likely changed no one's view of the game. The Red Wings and Maple Leafs showed off their new jerseys and only one of them are good. Lastly, the guys touch on the state of goaltending in the NHL and pick the Pavel Bures of the week....


Episode 106 - The Salty Carl-amel

The guys back as they share their thoughts on the players being inducted into the Hall of Fame and share their thoughts on who should be in The Hall but is missing. They also get to have a mini Rant Shack on Gary Bettman's CBA comments, the NHL playing in the Olympics and the Arizona Coyotes getting a new arena. They also get into a debate based on the Avs "Trust or Bust" articles and try to decide if the Avs are good or bad. Lastly, they try to decide whether to veto a fantasy hockey...


Episode 105 - The Devil of a Co Host

The guys are joined by Dan Rice ( as he fills in for Joel and Dan helps get Carl up to speed on the New Jersey Devils' season thus far, including if Schneider can win the Vezina and the impact Taylor Hall has had on the team. Then, surprisingly and unexpectedly, Andrew Ladd scores and the guys breakdown his situation with the Islanders and what can be done to turn the situation around. Joel's Leafs' had an eventful week, as Kadri avoids suspension and Joel is...


Episode 104 - The Hallowladd Episode

The guys are back on an empty Halloween, touching on NHL rookies being returned to Junior, the Hampus Lindholm extension, if Andrew Ladd is good or bad, Halak trade rumors, Joel plays our 13th Halloween Trivia, crown a new Hi Sticking champion and start a new round of Pavel Bures. Twitter: Facebook: Email: Intro music by Erik Hall of Shoot the Shred podcast


Episode 103 - The Hot Oil

The guys are back as Carl shares his excitement about Mikko Rantanen joining the Avalanche, and Joel has anger about the Leafs blowing leads. Is Carl too excited about the Oilers' start to the season? They also debut a new segment called "Trust or Bust" as they decide if hot or cold starts are for real. The guys also touch on the Blackhawks terrible penalty kill and the Canucks lucky start. Twitter: Facebook: Email:...


Episode 102 - The 4th Line Does Seattle

The guys record "LIVE" and in person in a hotel room in Seattle as Joel gets to celebrate Auston Matthews 4 goal debut, and then enters the Rant Shack about linesmen. As part of their trip to Seattle, the guys take in an Everett Silvertips game, and it was one of the weirdest hockey experiences they've ever had. They also answer questions like: What do the LA Kings do to replace Jonathon Quick? With Kucherov signed, what happens to Ben Bishop in Tampa? Are the Flames actually better this...


Episode 101 - The Classic Change of Scenario

The guys are back as they record on the brink of Nail Yakupov trade from the Edmonton Oilers to the St. Louis Blues, as well as the Oilers' signing of Kris Russell. The guys touch on where the St. Louis Blues are as a franchise, with all of the changes to their lineup this offseason. Carl and Joel also make their Stanley Cup Champion predictions, answer some listener questions, including a re-draft of the 1st round draft picks, and bring back The Pavel Bure's of the Week, where you pick...


Episode 100 - The Century Mark

The guys are back as they celebrate their 100th episode, with Joel getting to eat cake. They touch on Canada's rout at the World Cup and what it means for the future of the tournament, the suspensions players have received this preseason and preview the Metropolitan division. This weekend was the 4th Line Podcast fantasy draft, so they cover their teams and Joel and his team have already been accused of collusion. Limited Edition 100th Episode Gear!...


Episode 99 - The School Yard Teams

The guys are back as they talk about Team Europe facing off against Canada in the World Cup of Hockey, Trouba's trade request, break down the Atlantic division, touching on Joel's Leafs, as well as the Sabres, Senators, Canadiens, Bruins, Red Wings, Lightning and Panthers. Lastly, they pick teams for their fantasy hockey teams.

Episode 97 - The Stat Shot

The guys are back as they are joined by Rob Vollman ( as they talk about Rob's new book "Stat Shot", a book about hockey, for people who like hockey, through the lens of statistics. They touch on some of the topics in the book, including the worst trades in NHL history and goalie save percentage and get Rob's thoughts on the Calgary Flames. Felix Sicard ( also stops by to help Carl and Joel preview the Pacific division, touching on all 7 teams...


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