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Episode 13: Justine Gottshall on Data Privacy Laws

For Lucky Episode 13, we talk to Justine Gottshall about data privacy laws. Specifically, about the GDPR and California’s Consumer Privacy Act. Justine is a partner at InfoLaw Group, where she counsels clients on data privacy, technology, information governance, consumer protection, and digital marketing issues. Justine began her career as a Washington D.C. litigator and was involved in the FTC’s first data privacy investigation. In this podcast, Justine explains to whom the GDPR and...


Episode 12: Jae Um on the New Normal for Law Firms & Calling BS on "Because Lawyers..."

In Episode 12, we talk to Jae Um, founder of Six Parsecs, an insights company for the legal industry. The conversation with Jae is wide ranging. We discuss Han Solo, the true distance of a parsec and how she came up with the name for her company. Jae explains that a “new normal” confronts many law firms and discusses how they must now compete for business post-2008 recession. Jae also talks about how “data viz” (or data visualization) helps explain information and why it is not helpful...


Episode 11: Lucy Bassli on the Legal Ecosystem & Unicorn Lawyers

In Episode 11 we talk to Lucy Bassli founder of InnoLegal Services and Chief Legal Strategist at Law Geex. Lucy started her career in Big Law and ultimately landed a job in Microsoft’s legal department where she served as Assistant General Counsel. Lucy left Microsoft in 2017 and started InnoLegal Services–part law firm and part consultancy–where she helps law firms and law departments develop new ways to deliver and receive legal services. In her role as Chief Legal Strategist for Law...


Episode 10: Zach Abramowitz on Legal Tech Trends & Law Firm Incubators

In this episode we connect with Zach Abramowitz, lawyer, legal tech writer and entrepreneur. Zach left the practice of law to launch, a tool that lets users conduct live conversations and embed them on a website as the conversation unfolds. We talk to Zach about trends in legal tech, how lessons learned by e-discovery software companies helped pave the way for other legal tech apps and why law firms are positioned to develop legal tech software. In Episode 10, we also talk to...


Gabriel Teninbaum on Legal Tech Education

For Episode 9 we visited Gabriel Teninbaum, Director of the Institute on Legal Innovation and Technology and a legal writing professor at Suffolk University School of Law. Suffolk’s Legal Innovation Institute has three programs: A legal tech concentration for law students, the LIT Lab, and an online legal tech certificate program. Gabe also developed an called Spaced Repetition that helps law students with their studies and to prepare for the bar exam. In this episode, we also talk to...


Episode 8: Angie Hickey on the Benefits of Business People Holding Law Firm Leadership Roles

In Episode 8, we talk to Angie Hickey, CEO of the Chicago based law firm Levenfeld Pearlstein. Angie discusses the benefits of business people holding leadership positions in law firms. Angie explains that one of the main benefits of hiring business people to help run law firms is that it permits lawyers to spend more time doing what they are trained to do–practice law. Angie also points out that when law firms implement business strategies and systems, the client experience is...


Episode 7: Atrium’s Augie Rakow & Max Cantor on Technology First Law Firms

In Episode 7 we talked to Augie Rakow and Max Cantor of the legal tech startup, Atrium. Augie is one of Atrium’s founders and Max heads up Atrium’s artificial intelligence efforts. Atrium is actually two companies: Atrium LLP, a law firm focused on providing legal services to start-ups, and Atrium LTS (Legal Technology Services), the company providing operational and technological support to Atrium LLP. Augie founded Atrium with Justin Kan, a serial entrepreneur, angel investor and...


Episiode 6: Casey Flaherty on Tech Competency, Legal Ops and Client Driven Change

For Episode 6, we sat down with D. Casey Flaherty at the Legal Tech conference in New York City. Casey talked about a few things: how many lawyers struggle to master everyday technology, his experience as corporate counsel and the efforts he took in that role to improve the way company lawyers did their jobs. But, a good chunk of the conversation focused on Casey's belief that inefficiencies in legal service delivery will not change until clients demand change. In this episode, we also...


Episode 5: Ken Grady on Lean Thinking and Law

In Episode 5 we talk to Ken Grady about lean thinking and the practice of law. Ken explains that the main goal of lean thinking is to eliminate waste from business processes and that legal work is rife with waste. He also points out that eliminating waste from the practice of law might just free up time for lawyers to do other work, including the pursuit of access to justice initiatives. Ken is currently a law professor at Michigan State's Legal RnD program and held prior positions in...


Episode 4: Dennis Garcia on Legal Department Automation, Cybersecurity and Lawyers Use of the Cloud

In this episode we talk to Microsoft Assistant General Counsel Dennis Garcia about legal department automation, the benefits of cloud computing and steps law firms can take to shore up cybersecurity. Dennis also discusses lawyers’ use of social media. We also introduce a new segment for the podcast. Starting with this episode, we will include a short interview with a legal tech founder. We start with Ryan Alshak, a lawyer and the founder of Ping, automated time keeping for attorneys.


Episode 3: Kent Zimmermann on Alternative Legal Service Providers

In this episode, we speak with Kent Zimmermann about the rise of alternative legal service providers--companies that help clients and attorneys accomplish legal related work such as document review for electronic discovery, or due diligence contract review for corporate mergers and acquisitions. Kent also talks about law firm mergers. A topic he knows quite a bit about because he is a consultant helping law firms with strategic planning, management consulting, mergers, and marketing.


Episode 2: Zach Smolinski & Christian Auty on Blockchain

In Episode 2 we discuss blockchain technology and its impact on the practice of law with two Chicago lawyers Zach Smolinksi and Christian Auty. Zach is with Ziliak Law and Christian with the Much Shelist firm. Both counsel clients on blockchain related matters. In this episode Zach and Christian discuss what blockchain technology is, how they became interested in it, and the impact it will have on the practice of law. Zach is involved in Fin Tank a group working to grow Chicago's...


Jim Doppke on MRPC 1.1

In our inaugural episode, legal ethics attorney Jim Doppke of Chicago's Robinson Law Group discusses changes to the Rules of Professional Conduct (ethics rules for lawyers) addressing the impact of technology on modern legal practice. In 2012 the American Bar Association amended Comment 8 to Model Rule of Professional Conduct 1.1 (a lawyer's duty of competence) in response to changes in technology. The Comment now suggests attorneys must understand "the benefits and risks associated with...