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Episode 30 - Spindle's End, by Robin McKinely

It's official: Robin McKinley is a master of fantasy and we didn't appreciate her nearly enough when we read her books as kids. Today, we're ready to gush over Spindle's End. This perfect inversion of the Sleeping Beauty story offers a princess who saves herself (and really doesn't sleep much at all), as well as her motley crew of loyal animals and a very grumpy fairy. Faithful listeners may be disappointed by the briefer than usual Pretend Food, but will enjoy the new addition of "Just,...


Episode 29 - Crown Duel, by Sherwood Smith

Head into battle with the ragtag Dragon Babies crew! We're discussing Crown Duel by Sherwood Smith, and loving on Meliara in all her furious, revolutionary glory. Join in as we slog through the mud, sleep underneath ferns, and throw wine in corrupt barons' faces, all with a seriously messed up ankle and a raging fever. Plus: fantasy tea appreciation. When you're not quite ready for your Flower Day. And: can court decorations ever be trusted? This episode is a listener request - thanks,...


Episode 28 - Tempests and Slaughter, by Tamora Pierce

This is a Very Special Episode about Tamora Pierce's newest gift to us all - Tempests and Slaughter, aka Baby Arram's Book! We just had to depart from our usual fantasy nostalgia approach because this is too exciting to miss. This marks our fourth Tamora Pierce episode - if you're a new listener interested in checking out our others, choose your favorite heroine below! Episode 2 - Alanna: The First AdventureEpisode 6 - Emperor MageEpisode 26 - First TestSPOILER ALERT AHEAD for anyone who...


Episode 27 - The Wind in the Willows, by Kenneth Grahame

But why is Otter NAKED We're celebrating the glorious arrival of spring with a look back at the The Wind in the Willows! Hop into your tiny canoe and watch Toad be a complete sociopath, revel in the many miniature English teas, and wonder where the heck the female inhabitants of the river and wood have disappeared to. Plus: how Beatrix Potter, A.A. Milne and Kenneth Grahame created the anthropomorphism mold; Disney's take on Toad, Mole and Rat and how it scarred us; celebrating Ernest H....


MINI EPISODE - Seeing A Wrinkle in Time

Our favorite of the movie Mrs. - Mrs. Who, played by Mindy Kaling This is an ultimately-not-so-miniature MINI EPISODE about A Wrinkle in Time (2018)! We may not be the intended audience for this film, but we are still going to talk about it! Spoilers ahead, so please listen after seeing the film if you're interested in checking it out for yourself (we do recommend it to any fan of the book. And if you're here, on dragonbabiespodcast.com, reading this, let's be real - you're a fan of the...


Episode 26 - First Test, by Tamora Pierce

Really, just the best bowl cut around We're completing the Tamora Pierce *Holy Trinity* by following up our episodes on Alanna & Daine with the stoic Keladry of Mindelan! Discover why Grace and Madeleine think Kel is the most relatable of Tortall's warriors, and fall in love with this wise-beyond-her-ten-years hero all over again. This book is surprisingly prescient, and Kel's personal war against hazing, misogyny and outdated values within the knighthood is sure to resonate. PLUS: Our...


Episode 25 - The Two Princesses of Bamarre, by Gail Carson Levine

Are Madeleine and Grace the two princesses? Definitely not - but we are still honoring them with one of our most tangent-heavy episodes yet. We are thrilled to discuss our favorite Gail Caron Levine book, The Two Princesses of Bamarre. Find out why we prefer this book to Ella Enchanted, listen to us argue over whether Vollys is a great dragon or a terrible dragon, and learn even more about how spiders ruin lives. Whether you're a cowardly princess or a courageous princess (or even a...


Episode 24 - A Tale of Time City, by Diana Wynne Jones

Featuring our protagonists: Vivian, Jonathan and Jonathan's pigtail A book so perfect for our podcast mission that it has actually been requested by multiple listeners, A Tale of Time City burst into our lives with all the force of a butter-pie being poked into your eye. Listen in to hear us gush over Diana Wynne Jones' fascinating sci-fi/fantasy time travel extravaganza, and then argue over what a butter-pie might be like in real life for far too long. As inhabitants of an unstable era,...


Episode 23 - The Neverending Story, by Michael Ende

Strange character choices for the cover but what can ya do Falkor. Atreyu. BBB aka Bastian Balthazar Bux aka Boo... Bad Bro (okay we're reaching but stick with the alliteration please). All your old friends are living on forever in Michael Ende's The Neverending Story - but that's a story for another time. Listen in as Grace grows furious discussing hungry heroes on quests, Madeleine creates the Giant Spider Meter and both of us manage to forget nearly every character's name (but the...


MINI EPISODE - Howl's Moving Castle at the Book-It Repertory Theatre

This is a Very Special Episode about Seattle's Book-It Repertory Theatre production of Howl's Moving Castle! If you're in the Seattle area, we urge you to check out this show ASAP - it's about to close. Beautiful, creative, and totally faithful to the book, this musical adaptation was everything we could have asked for. Disclaimer: this episode was recorded on our mom's couch and in the throes of a Christmas-candy induced sugar high. Production quality not guaranteed. Check out our Howl's...


Episode 22 - Dragonsong, by Anne McCaffrey

If there's a painting that provides a better distillation of "80's FANTASY MADNESS," please share it with us Dragonsong has every permutation of our own dang podcast name we could ask for - dragon babies, baby dragons, and even baby dragon babies (we've never been more on brand). But that's not the only reason we've loved this book since Grace stole our copy from her 5th grade classroom. By turns triumphant and devastating, Anne McCaffrey's classic novel about a gifted, determined and...


Episode 17 - The Tombs of Atuan, by Ursula K. Le Guin

We couldn't be more delighted to travel to Earthsea and explore human nature & super goth spirits with Arha/Tenar/The Eaten One, a teenage girl forced into a cult who spends all her free time exploring a haunted labyrinth. And getting into scrapes along the way! Join us in marveling over Ursula K. Le Guin's gorgeous writing and the glorious weirdness of this book's plot structure. Plus, a discussion of whether Le Guin's works are more appropriate for children or adults - or every single...


Episode 16 - Redwall, by Brian Jacques

Creating this episode was an unexpected nightmare. Grace is 100% positive that the ghost of Asmodeus is now haunting her and Madeleine thinks that Cluny might be just a lil bit aggravated by her dismissal of him as a selfish grump. No matter what, the truth about the mysterious history of human life in the Redwall universe is now out there for all Dragon Babies to discover. If you're a fan of Pretend Food, know that this book is basically a founding father (aka a founding Badass Lady) in...


MINI EPISODE - Rewatching The Black Cauldron

Actual picture of us watching the film Hey buddies! This is a MINI EPISODE, so exciting! We decided that we were too intrigued by the 1985 Disney adaptation of The Book of Three & The Black Cauldron (titled The Black Cauldron) to not rewatch it. We saw this as kids but didn't remember... anything. It is a weird film! Here are our thoughts! Note - we were plagued by sound issues while recording and there is some volume variability in this episode, for which we are very sorry. It was a quick...


Episode 15 - The Black Cauldron, by Lloyd Alexander

L-R: Grace; the collective Dragon Babies listenership; Madeleine This one's a doozy! Together, an overheated Madeleine and Grace explore the destructive glorification of war, powerful coming-of-age tales for teens, an endlessly relatable cast of characters, and whether Gurgi is more of a dog-man or a bear-man. Ya know, everything you've ever wondered when reading The Black Cauldron. Plus, an extended discussion of the myriad ways Disney messed up the 1985 film adaptation. Don't be a...


Episode 13 - The Wee Free Men, by Terry Pratchett

More dead eyed sheep, plz Ach, noo yer talkin’ oour language! Welcome to our second Terry Pratchett episode, featuring the indomitable Tiffany Aching! Join us as we discuss the first of Pratchett's YA novels and the terrifying, nightmare-ridden Fairyland that you never expected. We've got a lively conversation about whether baby brothers are inherently evil, entirely too much commentary on cheese, and even Grace's Gollum impression. Grab your frying pan and learn how to save the day - as...


Episode 11 - So You Want to Be a Wizard, by Diane Duane

Wizard babies... second only to dragon babies THE BABIES ARE BACK. After a painful break from podcasting, we're diving back in with So You Want to Be a Wizard: a technical marvel chock full of magic, friendship and leaving bullies in your supernatural dust. How can a white hole be so darn charming? Is there a more creative "wrong" version of our world than the Starsnuffer's personal utopia? And just how confusing is it to try to navigate fictional New York? Also featuring a Smaug-style...


Episode 10 - The Folk Keeper, by Franny Billingsley

Welcome to the Dragon Babies library. While we can't guarantee beauty, we *can* guarantee water stains! The Folk Keeper really does have a little bit of everything. Looking for a new take on Scottish & Irish mythology? Sealfolk abound. Interested in a coming of age story complicated by hidden heritage and gender swapping? Meet Corinna Stonewall. Developing your career as a poet or a rapper? The Last Word is all you need. No matter why you've come to The Folk Keeper, Franny Billingsley's...


Episode 4 - Dealing with Dragons, by Patricia C. Wrede

This is a fun one!! Dealing with Dragons not only shaped our dragon worldviews, it inspired Grace to write, Madeleine to envision her own fantasy worlds, and both of us to appreciate the scholar (and warrior) within. Revisit the Mountains of Morning and the Enchanted Forest, and wonder: why are wizards such jerks? What IS cherries jubilee? And how can I live in this world forever? Plus: early-aughts pre-adolescent phenomena like Neopets and The Very Secret Diaries. Defining mousse vs....


Episode 2 - Alanna: The First Adventure, By Tamora Pierce

Our childhood edition of Alanna: The First Adventure Following up Madeleine's Forever-Hero with Grace's, it's time to discuss Alanna: The First Adventure, by Tamora Pierce! The first book in the Song of the Lioness quartet, this novel introduces us to the pert Alanna/Alan as she gets her gender-swap-enabled schooling underway and starts learning how to be Tortall's eternal savior. Note - some minor spoilers for other Song of the Lioness books, but if you're here, you've read them all,...