I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee

If I were to create a mixtape (it’d have to be an old school cassette cos that’s probably the last time I made one!) for Amanda and her music life, it’d probably open with The Undertones’ Family Entertainment with the classic line “Got To…Keep it In the Family”. I mention family not so much to talk endlessly about the quite rare band structure of her band, Bad Mary – in her words “a band family and family band” - but to segué clumsily into some of the questions that I have for myself about where friendships and family relationships fit into today’s lifestyle such as…. Do we make friends the same way as we used to do? We have the largest number of generations alive at the same time – do we bridge these generations? Do we make enough time for them? Do we have friends for life? Do we appreciate friends and family? How do they impact our wellbeing? What role do virtual friendships play? This is a very beautiful conversation with Amanda and I'm grateful for her openly talking about some difficult subjects. Make a brew, hit the sofa and enjoy! https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

You know when you hear a song or a collection of songs that literally make you shiver? Songs that could make you cry at how effortlessly beautiful they are. Another thing that interests me is the neuroscience of how some pieces of music can transport me to a time, a place, an older version of me, a perhaps as yet unseen version of me, how they can seem like my constant companion that’s seen my life, the very depths of me, the heights of me, how I can go back to them and they’re still my friend, never my enemy, still those companions of unwavering devotion, years down the line. Well, Saint Saviour (Becky Jones) is doing all of this again with her brand new album which is called Sunseeker, building on In The Seams and Tomorrow Again – two masterpieces in my book. For one thing, it’s got horns and anything that’s got horns in it is good in my book. More than that, it’s got her signature chord progressions and harmonies that just tie me up in knots. So good. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

What’s been intriguing me today? Reality. What is it? Is there “a” reality or is it all subjective and determined by our own perception, prediction and interpretation. I think it's a word - like so many others - that has been hijacked – you see it used in order to dogmatically defend belief systems or stances and this plays into our susceptibility to certain narratives – we hear that phrase “well this is my reality” at the expense of those who are experiencing things in a very different way. It’s a massive subject that’s massively out of my depth but I think that when we talk about what each other has experienced, we need to show empathy and understanding at how we make our best predictions for what is going on around us. The great thing about our brains though is how we draw on past experiences to create something new – I guess you’d call it imagination - and Johnny Manchild is using bucketloads of imagination in how he writes, plays and presents his music. His wonderful band, Johnny Manchild and the Poor Bastards - like the bastard prodigy of Joe Jackson, Electric Light Orchestra, Trail of Dead and The Vines - have a new album out called Rapture Waltz and it’s a belter. I love how it draws on these apparently disparate influences to produce music that is as good as it is individual and defies categorisation - the scourge of how society has wired us to think. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

As regular listeners will be painfully aware, I’m no fan of genres. I can hear the groans already….here he goes again getting on his soapbox…yes, well, you know you gotta reinforce the message, right! I do believe that genres are obsolete to the point of being dangerous, created by an industry to keep people in their lanes, to reinforce “rules” and stereotypes of who should be playing what music - and to make it easier and cheaper to market. The good thing is that there are far more musicians who are blurring those old genre lines, bringing in diverse influences and techniques to create new sonics that makes it difficult to put music in those restrictive boxes. Ok, soapbox over! SkyDxddy has just released their latest single called Why Do I Stay? And it’s quite different sonically to their previous work. What’s not different though, is the importance and value of the message - that every experience and every impact is at once unique and relatable to many of us and that each story deserves to be told and heard – I believe that’s what humanity should be about. Now having got on my soapbox about genre, I’m gonna get kicked off it, cos Sky has created a new genre - trauma core – although to be fair, trauma core to me is not about the musical style, it’s about survivors being empowered to tell your own story in your own way surrounded in your own blanket of safety and to feel the power of that human connection to not just survive but to create a movement of solidarity with others who are marginalised, misunderstood and suffering. And it’s encumbent on us to listen to those voices with empathy, love and understanding. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

We live in a culture of immediacy and entitlement, brought upon us, in part at least, by the emergence of new technologies of the last 20 years that were supposed to democratise society, to disrupt the big corporates, but have laid themselves bare as the same old monolithic structures where the power bases and wealth are maintained and society is left with long lasting effects which are not always positive. The impact on how we consume the Arts, and specifically music, is such that that immediacy means our attention spans are so short, that singles, playlists are the corporate darlings. But….and call me an old fart if you want….listening to an album from beginning to end gives you so much more if you can spend 40 minutes to think about the way the tracks are laid out, why they are in that 1-10 order, what the artist is saying which can often be soul baringly raw, what the music makes you feel, what the words make you feel, how do they relate to your life, the entire story. Maybe it’s because I’m of an age now, but I mean, my god, how rich is that???!! The latest record from Sukie Smith is called The Glass Dress and a Ringing Bell and it’s a road trip storybook of Exploration, Experimentation, Resistance, Transformation and Liberation, written and delivered exquisitely. Every experience and backstory is unique and deserves to be told and heard - that’s humanity. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

Listening to the music of Belle Chen brings me some mixed emotions – firstly, incredible love and admiration for the creativity and innovation of her thinking and the beauty and talent in executing this thinking through her composition and playing, yet still leaving room for the listener’s own interpretation. The second, and I fight hard against this one, is some regret that my own musical education was more constrained and I couldn’t – or didn’t want to - find a similar path where music and sound can be used so fluidly and experimentally, where they are such a vital and inspirational conduit for connection, whether that be with nature, our environment, our relationships or ourselves. Belle’s latest studio album, Ravel In the Forest, is a powerful voyage through the natural world that lets you visualise and recapture the word “awesome” in its purest sense. For me, it’s a storybook that immerses you in the beauty of life. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

As a habitual loafer, I spend a fair bit of time thinking about how some songwriters can create music that can feel familiar yet unfamiliar and why I’m attracted to music that gives me both of those feelings. I also love finding music that feels very unfamiliar to me and I’m interested in why. As you might expect I’ve failed to come up with anything concrete, but I did read something which made me think: basically when you are younger, you tend to use music as an identity marker and engage with it to navigate social circles, find your tribe, stuff like that. And the theory goes that as you get older, your personality and social circles become more developed and comfortable, so you tend to listen to music that’s more familiar. I’ve definitely experienced change in identity and social circles over the last, I dunno, 15 years probably, so if that theory holds true, it would explain why I’m listening to much more diverse stuff nowadays - Ugly Kid Joe over Ramones? Ok, let’s not go too far! Another view, from neuroscientist Daniel Levitin, goes like this: “when we love a piece of music, it reminds us of other music we have heard, and it activates memory traces of emotional times in our lives.” Today - 16th February 2024 - sees the release of Middle Kids’ third full LP called Faith Crisis Part I and it’s another beautiful evolution, showing another different side to the band, yet it’s still got that familiarity of journey, evocative melodies, empathy and classic bangers too. This is a beautifully open and honest conversation with Hannah Joy about adaptability, reflections on quitting drinking, saying “yes” to things, finding the muse, work ethic mindset, formative influences that shape us, on stage versus off stage personas, her relationship with piano and guitar, consensus in songwriting, curiosity……. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

When we’re kids, before we get to school and start to get hemmed in by society’s expectations, we don’t have the inhibitions that start to follow us around and start to influence our words, our actions, the clothes we wear, the way we cut our hair (although that’s not really been an issue for me for decades). I think this is also relevant in music –artists wrestling with breaking new ground or out of a genre for, for example, fear of alienating fans and it can make their music feel like their soul isn’t really in it. I do get the reasons why – sometimes! Personally, I’ve struggled myself over the years with inhibitions, worrying about what people think and it can be debilitating. Brad’s music feels extremely uninhibited and completely natural, putting its languid groove on, meandering its way through the haze that makes you stop and think about how the fuck have we sleep walked into allowing our lives to be so complicated. His music makes me think of what humanity means, it’s the sound of friends, partners, acquaintances, strangers, slowing life down so it can be enjoyed, lighting the candles, singing, talking, drinking, eating crisps… in that after hours bar, wherever. His latest record is called In The Midst of You and it’s out on 26 January and it’s my favourite of his. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

As with most stuff, I was late to the Skinny Pelembe party and the way I got into his music was as random as it gets: I came across an Instagram post (see, Instagram does have its uses) of his about buying an Austin Allegro with his streaming royalties ( I think that was the gist of it). Now my old man - rest his soul - was an Austin aficionado back in the days of my formative years when he got hold of the Austin 1800, Maxi, Princess and Maestro (I crashed this beast of a machine soon after I passed my test and I think that kinda stopped his love affair with Austins). He never bought an Allegro – that was the domain of our across the road neighbours and buying the same mustard coloured one would have been a bit weird. Enough of this nonsense: Skinny is writing and performing music that is really far reaching in its impact. It’s ingenious, it's inventive, unpredictable, open minded and most of all, it makes me curious, not least to put my own experience and interpretation on the music. It challenges me as I like art to do. I can be in the middle of soulful banger and weeper that explores what it means to grow up in a world that dehumanises, the next time I’m in a trippy, distorted underground village and everything else in between and around about. This is what it's all about. Brilliant stuff. He’s just released, with Beth Orton, a cover of Leonard Cohen’s wonderful 1974 track Who By Fire to complement his two albums, two EP’s and singles. I'm so pleased that I got to talk with a true diamond. Enjoy! https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

Nayana AB is an outstanding songwriter, musician and producer, who, for me, is taking influences from great songwriters of the past but making the music in very much her own vision. She’s using that history and those legacies positively to shape her own future and the future of others. I think this is exactly what legacy is about and how it’s intended to be used. She recently won the Dr Martens Made Strong music in the community competition which landed her a show alongside the brilliant Ezra Collective. She’s played the Great Escape and We Out Here festivals, performed alongside Jake Bugg and Raye and is studying for a Masters in Global Black Studies, decolonisation and social justice as well as working at UD, the music organisation that incubates and nurtures black and culturally diverse artists. It's an honour to spend some time with her and listen to someone who has the talent and desire to shape the future of music. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

In the bands my guest has played with over the past, what 30 years maybe – like Minority, Brick, One Against Many and presently Black Mercy – I’m getting influences from some outstanding bands and I’m thinking Negative Approach, Whipping Boy, Poison Idea, Artificial Peace definitely a bit of Napalm Death thrown in there to grind things up a bit. Fuck, just saying those band names makes me want to do a back somersault…but at my age and all that, I’d better give that a miss. In addition to his hardcore vocals, he’s also a skater, podcaster, caipoerista, comic book aficionado, husband and dad. I’m really interested how we get drawn to particular cultural scenes – music, comics, painting, design, poetry…and how that relates to which senses we favour – visual, aural, tactile – and which of our skillsets that appeals to. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

Situations and elements of duality, dualisms and paradoxes have started to become more evident in my life. I think I started to become more aware of this maybe 6/7 years ago when I started thinking and writing about the importance of mindset for surviving and functioning in this very complex and volatile world which, with a bit of gentle and not so gentle encouragement, led me to starting this little podcast. Exploring the existence of these situations, the reluctance to see anything other than a binary outcome, the impact of centuries of societal conditioning towards either right or wrong answers, the impact of ego and questioning what reality means…is there a reality after all?…all these kind of things tend to take up a fair bit of my brain space. No wonder I don’t have any friends. Patrick Wagner has a long and important cultural history in shifting boundaries. His band Gewalt’s debut album from 2021, Paridies, is an astounding piece of work, especially the trance inducing title track and the slicing pummelling groove of Es Funktioniert. They shape their work sonically, visually and lyrically with big topics that challenge our own comfort zones, our own interpretations of reality and most importantly those feelings, those dualisms…there’s a sense of order yet chaos, fearless yet vulnerable And Gewalt are back with a new physical single - Trans - backed with Monika In Scherben – both classic songs in their own right that highlight the story of Monika Donner – and they have announced a second album called Doppeldenk to follow in mid-2024. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

I think more and more these days about how we’ve sleep walked into allowing our world to become one that doesn’t serve us, one that does its best to prevent our ever-evolving identity to find its path, to do things on our own terms and away from being defined in a certain way by preconceptions or however our brains uses predictions of who others are and who we are. Maybe that’s just me getting older and grumpier. Probably true. But what's also true is that I have definitely experienced the wheels of reinvention in my own life. That feeling of “I’m not a number”, the need to find out who the fuck I am. It took me a lot longer to get here, but what’s a few decades amongst friends. Luca Buccellati rose to prominence as a composer, producer, collaborator, music partner, working with some extremely creative and successful artists, such as Lana del Rey, Arlo Parks, Big Piig, sophie meiers. Add a Grammy nomination and a Mercury prize for good measure. He has his own artist project that has been simmering, let’s say, called White China and he has now released another album which is called Hang Up The Lights. It’s a beautifully rich, diverse and personal collection of songs that builds on his masterful songwriting which you can hear on previous White China releases going back to 2018 but with this record, there is a very different lens and outlook on what’s important in life. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

I interviewed Andrew Butler from Hercules and Love Affair last year and he made a really great point about how the most exciting music is produced when one “scene” starts to fade but the next “big thing” hasn’t yet arrived – l think of it like when a new star is being born from all this gas and dust coming together - before the “rules” of that genre are established (cos that’s what happens, right?) so it’s much more volatile, experimental and liberated. So, just delving into the past a little bit….in the late 70’s, it was time for a change…bands like Bush Tetras, The Pop Group, The Raincoats, Gang of Four, Pigbag, The Mekons and the band that Lesley fronted for a brief but hugely influential time were creating a fork in the road. The Au Pairs took their music in a direction that was as exciting as it was inventive, through a mighty rhythm section that made your hips shake (well, they made mine rattle even then) and the taut, jagged guitar and Lesley's distinctive vocals and lyrics. They looked great, they sounded great, they were singing about stuff that mattered - misogyny, racism, conformism, relationships - and were, to my mind at least, leaders in creating a wave of bands whose impact is being felt more than ever. Pioneers isn’t too strong a word in my opinion. Anyway, after the Au Pairs disbanded, Lesley went on a long hiatus doing something completely different - she became an immigration lawyer, but she has picked up her guitar again and there is a lot of stuff going on which I think is hugely exciting. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

If this podcast were a musician, it's highly likely it would be called Trevor Dunn. Trevor is a hugely respected and valued composer, bassist, double bassist, collaborator, ultra-improviser and fantastic conversationalist, coming to prominence with the ever fluid and experimental Mr Bungle. He has also played with John Zorn, The Melvins, Fantômas, Tomahawk, his own Trio-Convulsant, plus many more collaborations. Now, with Sally Gates and Greg Fox, he's releasing another fabulous milestone in his improvisational catalogue with the LP Deliriant Modifier on his own Riverworm Records. This really is an excellent conversation with a man who's curiosity and innovation is endless. We're talking about the new record, the concepts of consciousness, alternate reality, improvisation, having an open mind and keeping an open mind, blasting away genres, mindfulness, curiosity, the pros and cons of boundaries and tons more. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

There’s so much about the work of J. Willgoose, Esq. of Public Service Broadcasting that really is everything that this podcast is about – resilience, curiosity, the importance of your physical environment, reinvention, collaborations, adaptability, trying things out, learning from the past – from successes or mistakes to what should have been or could still be – how to repurpose the past, how we shift ourselves in what is already a volatile and fast changing world, all with the aim of making the world a better place for us to live alongside each other, not at each other’s throats. A really fascinating chat with the modest and humble founder of a group who's motto is to teach the lessons of the past through the music of the future. And do feel free to laugh at my appalling attempt to compare Daventry and Winter Hill broadcasting masts…..stick to what you know. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

Since I started this podcast malarkey (maybe before actually, maybe the podcast just encouraged me to be more open about it - gawd, this sounds like a confessional!), I’ve developed a fascination with how music can whisk you off into a distant world, a kind of musical Narnia, not just through the lyrics, but the song structures, the atmosphere, the relationship of current music with past decades (cos we interpret and measure music by decades, right? - although it will be interesting as to what characterises the current decade and the one we just escaped). As always, I’m at risk of becoming tediously rooted in the theoretical, but I’m really interested in what makes musicians go to these places: what’s influenced their core mindset and how this plays into what’s influencing them at the time they sit down and write and how, in this fast-paced & volatile world, the music they write keeps pace with their influences and how they themselves keep pace with what seems like an exponential growth in “stuff” that influences us. Alan Palomo has so many strings to his bow – he’s a singer-songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, musician, filmmaker, DJ, and producer – and always, at least it appears to me, produced music on his own terms and in keeping with that, his latest, wonderful LP called World of Hassle – it’s the first under his own name – is a glorious collage that takes you to a world that’s got one foot in a past decade, one in the here and now and one in an augmented reality game. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

I first met Alaura when we did an online workshop for the South London Arts Lab in October 2020. It was a practical exploration of Stream of Consciousness writing. It was called “Telling The Stories We Were Always Told To Keep Secret”, where we were encouraged to delve into our memory to write about things that have a hold over us, maybe things we are ashamed of, afraid of, whatever that hold may be. This had a very profound effect on me and I have to say took my interest in the importance of mindset to a bit of a higher ground. This is one string to her wide reaching bow. She’s a multidisciplinary artist, teacher, writer, speaker, visual and sound artist. She was also a pivotal member of Psychic TV for 10 years, being married to Genese P-Orridge from 1981 to around 1992, before they separated. This is a fabulous conversation about her formative years, getting into 23 Skidoo, then Psychic TV, how she’s navigated her way through the good and bad times, how she herself has evolved and the next decisive chapter in her life. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

Our mindset is super important to how we handle life and what the future might hold for us. The importance of maintaining and regenerating our friendships and relationships shouldn't be overlooked but they often are. Of course, how we view them can be wrapped up in things that happened to us going way back. I’m also interested in how friendships evolve over our life – do they come and go, is it as commonplace to maintain lifelong friendships as much these days and in fact how do we ourselves evolve and stay friends with ourselves? Nerd alert! Anyway, Becca Mancari has created the most beautiful album called Left Hand – their third solo album actually – and, alongside the exquisite songwriting and arrangements, the notable themes running through it are, you guessed it…friendships and relationships, both in terms of themes and awesome collaborators – and with more than a sprinkling of self evolution and acceptance. This is a fabulous conversation with someone who is transforming their life from the darkness of self-reckoning to illuminating self-acceptance. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

Tony Njoku is a multi-instrumentalist, songwriter, musician, producer and visual artist whose music is impossible to categorise. It has so many influences that its identity is unique – just like it should be. He's assembling his art in ways that tell a story that helps him and helps others by bringing us together over shared experiences. Asking those big questions about our own identity and evolution, exploring what matters in life, gets me really interested in the personal intent and commitment that this involves whether through necessity or choice and in the courage, resilience and emotional intelligence. The visual work that he produces to accompany his music is as beautiful and captivating as the music itself - the sonics and the visuals get your attention and make you think about what’s inspiring this. You can't help but apply that to yourself. Check out Rhododendron, a song about metamorphosis, healing and new beginnings. The stripped down piano and vocals version is just beautiful. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste