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At The Intersection

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A podcast about what happens at the intersection of culture and policy. Hosted by Brian Kennedy and Marion Johnson.

A podcast about what happens at the intersection of culture and policy. Hosted by Brian Kennedy and Marion Johnson.
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Anchor FM


A podcast about what happens at the intersection of culture and policy. Hosted by Brian Kennedy and Marion Johnson.




Dr. Jessica Barron and Surviving White Spaces [LIVE Crossover With Black Future Manifest(o)]

For their first crossover episode, Brian & Marion are joined by Micah and Mariah of Black Future Manifest[o] in front of a live audience! Together they talk to the brilliant Dr. Jessica Barron, author of The Urban Church Imagined, about her research on people of color in white spaces that want to use them to appear progressive and multiracial. On Black Future Manifest[o], Micah Gilmer and Mariah M. talk to leaders and community members working against racism, patriarchy, and capitalist...


Affirmative Action, Anti-Blackness, and the Model Minority Myth

Marion & Brian discuss the latest court case challenging Affirmative Action and how the model minority myth is steeped in anti-Blackness and harms us all. Brian also struggles (and fails) to ramble off 200 years of history in 5(ish) minutes. Become a supporter of this podcast: Become a supporter of this podcast:


Environmental Racism: When The Storm Hits

Brian & Marion talk Hurricane Florence...and Matthew, and Maria, and Katrina, and how the narrative when hurricanes hit predominantly Black and brown communities is always the same. They then talk to activist and community organizer Omisade Burney-Scott about her time in her hometown of New Bern, NC after Florence hit. Finally, 1.5 rants from Marion round out the episode. Become a supporter of this podcast:


Student Loans: The Struggle is Real

We're back! In recognition of Back to School season, Brian & Marion stress themselves all the way out by talking about student loan debt. Theirs, yours, and everybody else's. Turns out, the way the system is set up means that Black and brown families are passing intergenerational debt down to their college-bound kids instead of building intergenerational wealth. Marion manages not to go on an anti-Bernie rant and we're all really proud of her. Marion does still go on an anti-capitalist rant,...


Live from Durham, it's Black August!

Brian & Marion go to Black August in the Park! For At The Intersection's first live episode, recorded in Durham Central Park, they talk to attendees about the number one block party/family reunion/cookout of the year, how we're celebrating our Blackness, and how -- or whether -- everyone wants their reparations. Become a supporter of this podcast:


Self-Made in America: The Bootstraps Myth

Brian & Marion break down the myth of the self-made billionaire and how it's tied up in racism, sexism, and capitalism. They also get into why the myth is still so comforting to so many of us, despite the fact that we will never be wealthy. Finally, tax policy expert Misha Hill stops by the studio to drop some knowledge on exactly how our economic and fiscal systems are set up to prevent any kind of self-made wealth, and to share how she wants her reparations. Become a supporter of this...


#EverybodyBlack: The Bonds of the Diaspora

Brian & Marion compare their experiences of being Black in America as a descendant of enslaved Africans and a first generation African American, respectively. They also discuss why everyone in the African Diaspora is always rooting for everybody Black, the different ways we internalize white supremacy, and how reparations will solve a whole lotta problems. Become a supporter of this podcast:


Cancelled: All Your Faves are Problematic

Brian & Marion open up about their personal problematic faves vs. the people who have landed on their ‘cancelled’ lists, and what makes it difficult to let a fave go. They also investigate who’s allowed to have second chances (hint: it’s usually rich white people) and how deeply embedded power dynamics make it hard to hold those people accountable for the harm they’ve caused. EVERYTHING IS LOVE gets sneaked in there too. Become a supporter of this podcast:...


We're Brown, We're Queer, We're...Not Here?

Brian & Marion talk about the falling rate of LGBTQ representation on the big screen, and how important it is to see honest, relatable portrayals of queer Black and brown people in media, especially in a political climate that criminalizes every single one of those adjectives. Sadly, Marion is forced to call out her longtime fave Donald Glover for participating in one of today's hottest trends, "Word of Gay." Happy Pride Month! Become a supporter of this podcast:...


Language and White Supremacy

Brian & Marion talk "the n-word," free speech, and how language can be used as a weapon to protect white supremacy. They also talk to policy analyst and immigrant rights advocate Victoria Crouse about the renewed interest in making English the official language, and what the actual fallout from legislation like that could be. Content warning: profanity and ICE deportation. Become a supporter of this podcast:


Donald Glover, Beyonce, and The New Black Renaissance

Brian & Marion dive into the 21st-century Black Renaissance we're blessed to be living in, covering everything from "This Is America" to Beychella to DAMN. Then they throw back to the originator - the Harlem Renaissance - and read each other quotes by Langston Hughes, Zora Neale Hurston, and Alain Locke. Become a supporter of this podcast:


Janelle Jones and White Progressive Myths

Brian & Marion talk to economics expert Janelle Jones about the meaning of equity and how we actually achieve it. Surprise - reparations come up. Janelle also gives us some real talk about how white progressives continue to uphold white supremacy by being unwilling to accept the whole truth about racism in America. Become a supporter of this podcast:


Darrick Hamilton, Reparations, and a Federal Job Guarantee

Brian & Marion talk to Professor Darrick Hamilton about the federal job guarantee proposal that he helped create, and about how we want our reparations. Brian also slips in an unnecessary dig at Indiana Jones for what must be the thousandth time. Become a supporter of this podcast:


Equal Pay Day - the intersection of sexism and racism

Brian & Marion discuss the many layers of discrimination found in the gender wage gap and why women of color get left out of the wage gap conversation. Brian shares some advice for men in a new game called Don't Be That Guy. Become a supporter of this podcast:


March Madness - Should college athletes be paid?

Brian & Marion debate the financial, ethical, and political implications of paying college athletes for their labor. (Spoiler alert: people's opinions on the matter are often guided by race.) Marion also learns that Canadians play American football. Become a supporter of this podcast:


Guns, Race, and Hypocrisy - Pt. 2

In Part 2 of this episode, Brian & Marion reminisce about the mass shooting events that loom large in their memories, and discuss where the gun control movement could go next. Marion also talks to her friend Marcus, a veteran and life-long gun owner, about his place in the gun debate. Become a supporter of this podcast:


Guns, Race, and Hypocrisy - Pt. 1

In Part 1 of this episode, Brian & Marion explore the long history of American gun culture and how the gun debate has been racialized since the beginning. They cover the Black Panther Party, Clint Eastwood, Ronald Reagan, and a George R.R. Martin-style takeover of the NRA. Become a supporter of this podcast:


Black Panther - How policy and culture created Wakanda

Brian & Marion dive into the most important movie of the 21st century, Black Panther. They discuss cultural influences and impact, the importance of nuanced and human portrayals of Africans in the media, the historical context that Black Panther draws upon, and how this movie fits into our current political climate. They also completely forget to discuss their own professional and personal backgrounds - presumably, that's for Episode 2. Original music provided by 7Keys. Become a supporter of...