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Episode 26 - PROMO FOMO

In this episode our faithful hosts Lanre 3K and Sammus recount a run-in at the XOXO festival in Portland that inspired them to think about the icky world of sales -- specifically, how much energy they should be committing to the promotion side of the creation equation. They also talk about fall as a government conspiracy. Tune in. (Engineer's note: please accept my apologies on any audio issues you might pick up on. My audio interface was creating additional feedback on the mics for some...


Episode 25 - Honeymoon Landing (& How to Think Outside the Bun)

Hello Zero-Suiters! Our faithful hosts Lanre 3K & Sammus took some much needed rest after successfully planning + executing a wedding (two if you count the African ceremony they participated in before the wedding), and moving Sammus into her new place in Providence where she's starting her dream gig as a rap teacher. But they're back -- to chat about all of the fun things they learned in planning their wedding (most notably -- how to integrate Taco Bell's philosophies into their lives). If...


Episode 24 - Teaching Yer Craft

In this episode, our faithful hosts Sammus and Lanre 3K give us a much needed back-to-school conversation about what it means to teach their respective creative crafts. With Lanre's extensive resume as a creative writing instructor, can he help Sammus figure out how TF she's supposed to teach a hip hop songwriting course for the first time (which she'll be doing in like T-minus 5 weeks)? Find out the answer to this, as well as hearing about Lanre's big purchase and an incredible movie you...


Episode 23 - On Alter Egos & Pen Names

In this episode, our faithful hosts Sammus aka Enongo and Lanre 3K aka LJ Alonge discuss the wild world of the artist alias. A pen name, nom de plume, persona, stage name--why do artists take them on? What is to be gained and what might be lost when we take on an artist alias? Join our hosts as they hash it out (and also discuss stuff like ...oh I dunno, SAMMUS SUCCESSFULLY DEFENDING HER DISSERTATION!)If you'd like to share your thoughts, send us a listener letter at...


Episode 22 - How Do You Finish?

In this episode our faithful hosts Lanre 3K and Sammus talk about finishing stuff...or not finishing stuff. What it means to finish a dissertation, an album, a book especially when you've defined yourself in terms of working on those things for a very long time. They also discuss John Wick 3 and Keanu Reeves more generally.


Episode 21 - Getting Help?

In this episode our faithful hosts Lanre3K and Sammus chat about their different philosophies around improving their craft. If you think you're not good enough and might need some edification in your craft before you start a project is that just your imposter syndrome kicking in? Or is it an earnest reflection of where you might be and where you're trying to go. Listen in as these two very interesting humans chat about where they land in this discussion.


Episode 20 - Brown on a Boat

In this episode, our faithful hosts Lanre 3K and Sammus share their experience of sailing with the JOCO Cruise, a one-week cruise excursion filled with musical performances, workshops, rest, church, and all kinds of nerdery that is very hard to describe in a brief description. If you've ever wanted to go on JOCO but haven't been sure what the experience is like (or you're just super into hearing them talk) listen up! They return to their regular format next month.


Episode 19 - HATERATION [ this dancery?]

In this episode, our faithful hosts Lanre 3K and Enongo aka Sammus discuss their Xtreme hateration when it comes to artists who are doing it bigger and better. This episode finds them not necessarily at their finest, but it does feature them at their most honest and they hope that means something...! Enjoy :)


Episode 18 - DUES & DON'TS

In this episode our faithful hosts Sammus & Lanre 3000 talk about what it means to "pay your dues." We often hear about the importance of paying your dues (mostly from people who believe they have paid theirs) but what does that actually mean and how might we envision new systems within our industries? Enjoy the episode! Church announcements: 0:00 - 4:05 Episode: 4:06 - 47:25 Listener letters: 47:26 - 54:48 Affirmation: 54:49 - 55:31 Message us @


Episode 17 - DO QUIT UR DAYJOB

In this episode our faithful hosts Sammus and Lanre 3K ring in the new year by talking about the end. Specifically how much they thought about quitting last year and what kinds of things would ultimately push them to quit their day jobs as creatives. Enjoy! Feel free to drop them a line at // Church Announcements: 0:00 - 6:58 Episode: 6:59 - 39:45 //


Episode 16 - Thank U

In this episode Lanre 3000 and Sammus say goodbye to 2018 by expressing their gratitude for some of the art that's kept them going. They also talk about Lanre's major freakout and Sammus' recital with a bunch of five year-olds. Fun stuff. To support:


Episode 15 - FEAR FACTOR

In this SPOOKTACULAR episode, our faithful hosts Sammus and Lanre 3K discuss their fears -- not the super, bummer-inducing existential ones...think rubber chickens and big dogs! Enjoy ~ and we hope you've had a good and safe Halloween.


Episode 14 - The Meaning of a Thing

In this episode, our faithful hosts Sammus and Lanre 3K talk about the potential dread that fills artists souls when people want to know what their stuff means!! Enjoy ~


Episode 13 - On Aretha, On Blackness

In this episode, our faithful hosts Enongo aka Sammus and Lanre (3K)think about Aretha Franklin and their complicated relationship with Blackness! Enjoy. Things to check out: Noga Erez + Aqua Teen Hunger Force See our patreon for music credits:


Episode 12 - Sammus Takes Ls

In this episode, our faithful hosts Sammus and Lanre 3000 discuss the ways in which L-taking is just a part of the job when working as a freelancer or independent artist. There's no business like show business indeed! They also bicker quite a bit about Netflix cheating, Lanre's secret light-skinndedness, and other neat stuff you surely care about! Time stamps: + Church Announcements: 0:00 - 10:09 + Sammus and Lanre3K Discuss Sammus' L-taking: 10:13 - 29:08 Cool Stuff You Should Know About:...


Episode 11 - Sooooo Anxious

In this month's episode, Sammus's and Lanre reflect on her recent trip to get treated for anxiety. It's a funny and intense conversation as they talk about the surprising obstacles she encountered and get into a couple mini-arguments about how they cope with anxiety differently. Time Stamps: Church Announcements (New goodies on the way for our Patreon peeps, Sammus's new students, Birmingham's dopeness, and more!)0:00-12:00 Sammus and Lanre discuss her recent trip to get anxiety meds: 12:00...


Episode 10 - Focus Pocus Pt. 2 / Heroes Fail Us

In this episode Lanre (3000) and Sammus report back their findings after experimenting with techniques to finally get more focused -- see episode 9 for details. After dishing on that, they move on to discuss how to deal with your favorite artists letting you down. Helpful links: Redefining Realness: Extraordinary Homes: Time stamps: - Introducing Lanre 3000! 1:20 -Church...


Episode 9 - Focus Pocus Pt. 1

In this month's episode Enongo and Lanre face their problems with maintaining focus on the big projects they're working on. Join them as they talk about the many ways and reasons they procrastinate; research what the internet has to say about procrastination and creative blocks (and magic wands); and decide to put a couple techniques for concentrating to the test -- with a little help from Scared Straight! Helpful links: "7 Types of Creative Block (and What to Do About Them)"...


Episode 8 - To Gig or Not to Gig

In this month's episode, ESPN commentator Stephen A. Smith makes an appearance, Lanre and Enongo argue about how much they get paid, and they discuss how to choose between professional opportunities. ------ ESPN talking head "Stephen A. Smith" guest appearance: 5:08 Sammus talks about the gigs she took earlier in her career: 9:12 A pretty lengthy argument about what it means to take an L: 13:39 Lanre talks about the gigs he took earlier in his career: 21:52 Sammus and Lanre talk about how...


Episode 7 - Euro-tour Reflections

In this episode, Lanre and Enongo reflect on their recent 10-day tour across the UK + Paris by sharing the 5 most unexpected things that happened on tour. From new friends to power-outages enjoy this meditation on international tour life.