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Session 19 - Terry Steinbach & Betty Shanahan - Makerspaces at DePaul University

Terry Steinbach is an Associate Dean in the College of Computing and Digital Media at DePaul University, and Betty Shanahan is the Associate Vice President of DePaul University. Both have been instrumental in building makerspaces and spreading maker-centered learning at DePaul University, and come on the show this week to talk about how to make a makerspace work in higher ed. This is the second part in a series of interviews about makerspaces in education.


Session 18 - Aaron Hoover, Academic Makerspaces and Teaching Makers in Higher Ed

Aaron Hoover is an Associate Professor of Mechanical Engineering at Olin College and one of the founders of the Higher Education Makerspaces Initiative and the International Symposium on Academic Makerspaces. In this episode, Aaron and I discuss the state of maker education in higher education including the challenges and opportunities that educators face in this context. This interview is the first part in a series of interviews about makerspaces in education.


Session 17 - Rob Rehr, Hardware Hacking, Badgelife, And DIY Retro Games

Rob Rehr is an engineer at IDEO by day, and a hardware hacker and game developer by night. In this session, we talk about the work Rob's doing in DIY retro game development, the add-on board he developed that uses the Nintendo nunchuck, and much more. Check it out!


Session 16 - Christina Pei, Bringing Maker Learning into the Classroom

Christina is the creator behind Chicago North Side Mini Maker Faire and researches making by working with teachers to design curricula, and with students to design equitable spaces for making. We talk about the philosophy behind making, and what drives Christina to do all of the awesome things that she's responsible for. Check it out!


Session 15 - Helen Leigh, DIY Instruments and Designing Maker Education

In this session I talk with Helen Leigh. Helen is an author, education writer, and maker with a focus on creative use of new technologies. She has written playful technology education materials for National Geographic and Intel Education, and has developed a Design, Coding, and Electronics Course for the Royal Court of Oman. Alongside her writing, Helen makes creative technology products with a focus on education, including her latest collaboration with Imogen Heap, MI.MU, and Pimoroni, a...


Session 14 - Andrew Sowa, PCB Art, Overcoming Challenges, and Community

Andrew Sowa talks about the persistence behind making, his work in KiCad and PCB art, and how he views the influence of community and culture on his work.


Session 13 - Which 3D Printer Should You Buy?

It's a shorter (and later) episode this week, but I talk about 3D printers (3 different kinds, to be exact), and which one might be the best fit for you. Check it out!


Session 12 - Drew Fustini, the Open Hardware Summit Badge, and Why Make?

I talk with Drew Fustini, open source hardware designer at OSH Park and co-developer of the badge for the Open Hardware Summit this year. Drew is, as I say in the podcast, the glue that holds many maker communities together, and I'm really excited to have him on and talk about the things that he makes, and his ethos behind making and tinkering.


Session 11 - Aluminum Guitars, Industrial Design, and The Avengers Clipboard with Nate Matteson

I talk with Nate Matteson of DePaul University's School of Design and the industrial design company Obstructures. Nate's company Obstructures makes aluminum guitars, wallets, pedals, and many many other useful tools. In addition to that, and most importantly, Nate is an excellent design educator and brings his practice into academia to help elevate his students' potential in design. In this session, we talk about Nate's personal projects related to sound and light, his work with...


Session 10 - Otherworldly Sounds, Amateur Radio, and the Ur of Maker Culture with Brian Davis

I talk with Brian Davis (W9HLQ of HAMFesters Radio Club), amateur radio operator and educator of future HAMs. Brian has been an operator for over half a century, and has seen the shift to computerization, and now, has started working with makerspaces to pass on his knowledge of amateur radio to others. In this session, we talk about the HAM community, how it relates to maker and tinkerer culture, one of Brian's newest inventions, and some of the weird sounds and other things you hear when...


Session 9 - We Have a YouTube Channel! Andrew Morin and Jay Margalus Talk TSW* Videocast

Andrew Morin and Jay Margalus, new co-hosts of the TSW* YouTube Channel, talk about what they would've done differently in TSW* Videocast Ep. 1 (hint: a lot) and some of the projects that they unveiled during the show episode. Check out the first TSW* Videocast at


Session 8 - Pottery, The Unintended Result, And Art Of I Don't Know With Hayne Bayless

I talk with Hayne Bayless, potter, board member of Studio Potter literary journal, and board member of Pots on Wheels (POW!) about his work, his methodology, and the art of "I don't know." Hayne's work has been awarded the top prizes at some of the country's most important craft shows: the Smithsonian Craft Show in Washington, D.C. and the Philadelphia Museum of Art Craft Show. Other than lessons from a potter in Tokyo and a handful of classes and workshops, he has managed to avoid any...


Session 7 - FIRST Robotics in Education and Community Representation with Jackie Moore

In this podcast session I talk with Jackie Moore, Chicago Knights FIRST Robotics team founder and coach, makerspace organizer, Chicago Southside Mini Maker Faire organizer, educator, and many, many other things. Jackie and I sit down to talk about the philosophy behind making -- and making with other people -- and what that means about how we can learn from each other. That, and much more, on session 7 of This Should Work.


Session 6 - Aligning Maker Principles and Educational Learning Standards with Sarah Margalus

I speak with Sarah Margalus, reading specialist, educator, and maker. Sarah talks about how to integrate maker-centered learning principles with 21st Century Learning Standards: a practical way for teachers with not a whole lot of time to integrate maker learning into the classroom. Disclaimer: Sarah is my wife. Also, an interesting person in the maker movement and educator.


Session 5 - Changing Kids Edu Toys, Building Museum Exhibits, and Making with Rachel Hellenga

In this session, I speak with Rachel Hellenga, President of Conducty (, museum exhibit builder, and expert maker. Rachel talks about the challenges of designing environments (particularly education ones), the magic of makerspace communities, and the development of her company, Conducty. Show Notes on the website at


Session 4 - The Physics of Music, Teaching Budding Makers, and More with Andrew Morrison

In this session I talk with Andrew Morrison, board member at Workshop 88 and professor at Joliet Junior College. Andrew and I talk about his work with the physics of music on steelpan drums, teaching budding makers, and more!


Session 3 - Leadership, Dremel Brand Maker Tools, and the Idea Realization Lab with Jenn Lawhead

Jenn Lawhead, former (and First) Head Lab Moderator at the Idea Realization Lab, and current employee at Dremel Brand, talks about her experiences in making, leading a makerspace, and bringing students into the fold.


Session 2 - Making Conference Badges, Custom Hardware Products, and Scaling Up with Rudy Ristich

Rudy Ristich, Vice President of Workshop 88 and the technical mind behind the Thotcon hacker conference badges joins the podcast to talk about scaling your own custom hardware projects up, his background in electrical engineering, and how that informs his making process.


Session 1 - Getting into the Design Business and Facilitating Creativity with Andrew Camardella

This Should Work Podcast Session 1 - An interview with Andrew Camardella, President of Pumping Station: One and an industrial designer. In this session, we talk about the design process, building a business and finding clients for your design and making work, and facilitating the creative work of others.