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The Plan A Podcast is produced in conjunction with Plan A Magazine, an online publication that observes, digests, decodes, and appends the supernova of online conversations by, for, and about Asian people who don't live in Asia. Visit

The Plan A Podcast is produced in conjunction with Plan A Magazine, an online publication that observes, digests, decodes, and appends the supernova of online conversations by, for, and about Asian people who don't live in Asia. Visit
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The Plan A Podcast is produced in conjunction with Plan A Magazine, an online publication that observes, digests, decodes, and appends the supernova of online conversations by, for, and about Asian people who don't live in Asia. Visit








Ep. 143: The Social Value Of Asian American Comedy (ft. Joe Wong)

Joe Wong joins Diana and Teen to talk about the social value of Asian American comedy. It's been a kind of golden era -- from Ali Wong's continued breakout success to Ronnie Chieng's recent Netflix comedy special -- but what role do our best comics play in an era marked by social disorder and antagonisms? Joe Wong offers his view of this exciting but high-stakes era of Asian American comedy. TWITTER: Joe Wong (@JoeWongComedy) Diana (@discoveryduck) Teen (@mont_jiang) SUBMISSIONS & COMMENTS:...


Ep. 142 (Preview): Opting Out

It's been a constant theme in modern consumer capitalist culture: to just opt out of the whole dulling cycle. Diana, Jess and Teen talk about an unmistakable resurgence in opting out -- whatever that means -- in response to our alienation from what dominates our finite supply of time, energy and mental focus: work. TWITTER: Diana (@discoveryduck) Jess (@cogitatotomato) Teen (@mont_jiang) REFERENCED RESOURCES: The Gervais Principle:...


Ep. 141: Break In Case of War: A Case for Grief and Hope

We have declared war on Iran. Jess and Teen talk about the helplessness they feel in light of massive and incomprehensible events which will have unknown -- and perhaps minimal -- impacts on the drudgery and routine of our day to day American lives. Is there a reason to feel grief? Is there a cause for hope? Or is there really nothing much to see here? We are in uncharted territory, faithful listeners. Break in case of war. TWITTER: Jess (@cogitatotomato) Teen (@mont_jiang) REFERENCED...


Ep. 140 (Preview): A 2020 Wishlist for Asian America

With a new decade ahead of us, what are some things we want to see in 2020 for Asian America? Ray and Oxford get together to throw around ideas like having more purposeful Asian American spaces, formulating terms more specific than "Asian," creating an Asian Bechdel test, and more. *This is a bonus episode for Patreon subscribers! For the full episode, please become a patron at: TWITTER: Ray (@raydeng) Oxford (@oxford_kondo) REFERENCED RESOURCES: The Yellow Man's...


Ep. 139: Life As You Turn 30

Your 30s are often a time when people's lives start to really diverge with respect to career, relationships, life philosophies, etc. Ray, C.S., and Oxford (who are all in their early 30s) get together to talk about how even though they spent their 20s in different ways (whether it was pursuing white-collar careers or dropping out of college), their paths nevertheless crossed by the time they entered their 30s. They discuss their changing attitudes regarding money, relationships, and the...


Ep. 95 [UNLOCKED]: Shit White Women Do

Recently, Diana had a run-in with a couple of white women who banded against her in an argument about whether dogs were allowed in their neighborhood park. Diana, Oxford, Mark, and Jess veer off from the intended topic of neighborhood racism to talk about shitty white women and what Asian women think about them, especially when Asian men are in the mix as well. Can women of color trust men of color to NOT cape for white women? *This episode was originally released as a bonus for our Patreon...


Ep. 138: Male Feminists, Cat People, and Society's Obsession With Dating

Two years ago, the country was gripped by, of all things, a New Yorker short story called "Cat Person" by Kristen Roupenian, which dealt with the murky boundaries of sexual consent in modern dating. Recently, in n+1, Tony Tulathimutte published a short story, "The Feminist," about the dangerous rage of a male feminist whose good deeds go sexually unrewarded. Diana, Millie, and Oxford talk about both stories (as well as other books like "The Beauty Myth" by Naomi Wolf, "Loner" by Teddy Wayne,...


Ep. 137 (Preview): 'Frankly In Love' Has A Refreshing Asian American Narrative

"Frankly In Love" is a YA novel by David Yoon is the story of a SoCal Korean American teenager who falls for some white girl and in order to dupe his traditionalist parents, pretends to date his Korean American female friend to placate both their parents... only to actually fall for her. Though the synopsis sounds extremely tropey, the novel delves deep into what it should mean to be modern 2nd-generation Asian Americans and why we may need each other more than ever. Oxford and Filip discuss...


Ep. 136: How Sinophobia Affects Non-Chinese Asians

In episode 132, Escape From Plan A looked at Sinophobia from the perspective of four Chinese Americans. In this episode, we look at how Sinophobia impacts non-Chinese Asians. Oxford (Korean), C.S. (mixed-race Japanese/white), and Filip (Vietnamese of Chinese descent) talk about how despite not being Chinese, they still feel the full danger and hypocrisy of Sinophobia. Plus, they talk about the cruel hilarity and spiritual emptiness of modern professional life, as exemplified in The Verge's...


Ep. 135 (Preview): Academia Is The Dark Side (ft. You Peng)

People in academia consider themselves to be apolitical, enlightened, in an ivory tower of knowledge and education. They say "Oh she's going to the dark side" when someone leaves the hallowed university halls for industry. You Peng and Diana destroy that image and discuss what the Research Industrial Complex is really like, and why it is particularly toxic to Asians. *This is a bonus episode for Patreon subscribers! For the full episode, please become a patron at:


Ep. 134: The New York Times Screws The Pooch With Drake And 'Parasite'

The New York Times was on a roll this past week with two eyeroll-inducing articles about how Drake invented sing-rapping and how Asian movies like Parasite are all about Confucianism. Mtume, Millie, and Oxford get together to talk about why so many people got mad at these pieces and we answer the all-important question: at what point in your life did you realize that the New York Times was full of shit? Support us on Patreon! TWITTER: Mtume (@sircoregant) Millie...


Ep. 93 [UNLOCKED]: And They Called It Yellow Love

Are people, Asian or otherwise, afraid of Yellow Love? Why does it seem that every other minority group is happy to celebrate same-race relationships except yellow Asians? Diana, Ray, Jong, and Oxford talk about celebrating and politicizing Yellow Love and share some of their own personal stories on the matter. *This episode was originally released as a bonus for our Patreon subscribers, but it has been unlocked for public release! TWITTER: Diana (@discoveryduck) Ray (@raydeng) Jong...


Ep. 133 (Preview): All About That Enclave Life

Jess tells Oxford all about what it was like growing up in an enclave (the San Gabriel Valley in Southern California, to be precise). What are the advantages? Disadvantages? And are Asian American enclaves a preview of what 3rd generation Asian American life will be like? *This is a bonus episode for Patreon subscribers! For the full episode, please become a patron at: TWITTER: Jess (@cogitatotomato) Oxford (@oxford_kondo) SUBMISSIONS & COMMENTS:...


Ep. 132: Sinophobia and the Coping American Psyche (ft. Rich)

This year has seen a sudden surge of American interest in China-related news, from Huawei to Xinjiang to Hong Kong. Teen, Diana, Ray, and first-time guest Rich talk about why the American psyche is so fixated on these stories, especially when many of the alleged wrongdoings involves issues that are actually in dire need of addressing in America itself. Support us on Patreon! TWITTER: Teen (@mont_jiang) Diana (@discoveryduck) Ray (@raydeng) REFERENCED RESOURCES:...


Ep. 131 (Preview): How Asian Men View American Masculinity

Diana and Teen discuss the state of dysfunction in American masculinity, and its particular relationship with Asian men. How do Asian men respond to American norms of masculinity, compared with Asian women in response to norms of femininity? Are Asian men more or less dysfunctional compared to American men at large? Big questions that have no easy answers, but that doesn't mean they cannot be talked about together by Asian men and women. *This is a bonus episode for Patreon subscribers! For...


Ep. 130: Examining 'Parasite' and 'Harriet' (ft. Doug Kim & Mtume Gant)

In this special two-part episode, EFPA discusses a couple of films that have made the news lately (though for very different reasons). First, Teen and returning guest Doug Kim (filmmaker, actor, educator) talk about why Bong Joon Ho's Parasite is a modern masterpiece. Then (starting at the 39 min mark), Oxford and Mark are joined by returning guest Mtume Gant (filmmaker, actor) to dissect what went so horribly wrong with Harriet and why the controversy should be a warning sign as to how...


Ep. 129 (Preview): Straight Yellow Men in Creative Spaces (ft. Jon Truei)

Have you ever gone to some artsy event in America and realized that the vast majority of Asians there were women? Given how much of the creative output from Asia is dominated by Asian men, it surely can't be said that Asian men are somehow genetically uninterested in the arts. So is there something about American culture that creates these gender imbalances among Asian Americans? Is it a supply or demand problem? Returning guest Ray (writer) and new guest Jon Truei (filmmaker) join Oxford...


Ep. 128: Why Asian Americans Should Give A Shit About The Techlash (ft. Jimmy Wu and R.K. Upadhya)

In the third iteration of the Plan A tech series, Filip talks to guests RK and Jimmy about the surge in activism and labour activism in the tech sector in the past few years. They tackle the question of where Asian Americans fit in amongst the tech-lash, and why we should care, beyond just the fact that we’re highly represented in this world-affecting industry. Support us on Patreon! TWITTER: Filip (@filipgwriting) Jimmy Wu (@jimmyjwu) REFERENCED RESOURCES: Optimize...


Ep. 127 (Preview): Plan A Eats Special Gummies In A Cabin

Jess and Teen (after we all watched the wrong Veronica movie on Netflix up in the Catskills) record a late-night podcast while enjoying the effects of some special gummies. We'd write more in this description, but honestly, we don't remember a ton of what we talked about! It was something about adult life? *This is a bonus episode for Patreon subscribers. To subscribe, please go to: TWITTER: Teen (@mont_jiang) Jess (@cogitatotomato) SUBMISSIONS & COMMENTS:...


Ep. 126: What 'Hustlers' Gets Wrong About Sex Work (ft. Red Canary Song)

There's a lot to be commended about the movie Hustlers, but as a source of information about the realities of the lives of sex workers, especially Asian sex workers, it has its blind spots and relies on old Hollywood tropes. Red Canary Song is a grassroots collective of Asian and migrant sex workers and allies, starting with the Chinese community of massage parlor workers in New York City. Its co-founder, Kate Zen, along with members Jia and Lillian, join Diana and Oxford to discuss...