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The Plan A Podcast is produced in conjunction with Plan A Magazine, an online publication that observes, digests, decodes, and appends the supernova of online conversations by, for, and about Asian people who don't live in Asia. Visit


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The Plan A Podcast is produced in conjunction with Plan A Magazine, an online publication that observes, digests, decodes, and appends the supernova of online conversations by, for, and about Asian people who don't live in Asia. Visit








Ep. 162: Should Asian Americans Care About China's Media Image? (ft. Kaiser Kuo)

We're honored to have Kaiser Kuo (Sinica podcast, Supchina, Chinese Metal pioneer) join Jess and Teen to talk about the extent to which the media's portrayal of China is a relevant political issue affecting the lives of Asian Americans. Kaiser has a deep background in Chinese politics, especially with the way Western media covers it. With many seeking to place blame for the covid-19 pandemic, this could not be a more urgent issue. Many thanks to Kaiser for jumping on. Support us on Patreon!...


Ep. 161: Blaming China For COVID-19, How Should Asian Americans React?

Amanda, Chris, and Teen maintain social distance and record a podcast online to discuss the emerging debate of who is to blame for all of this? This is, without exaggeration, the largest global event in our lifetimes. The consequences will be massive. We are already looking for someone to blame. Although Trump has been brazenly saying 'China Virus' over objections from liberal media that this is inappropriate, the liberal media has similarly been politicizing COVID-19 as an inevitable...


Ep. 160: Love Lockdown

Chris, Filip, and returning guest Sen (from ep. 78, Conversations With Asian Trans Women) talk about what their lives have been like in lockdown mode. Among other things, they talk about video first dates, being an introvert vs. extrovert during the lockdown, shows (Kingdom, Giri/Haji, Ugly Delicious), books, and the likelihood Trump has the coronavirus. Support us on Patreon! TWITTER: Sen (@maikooochi) Filip (@filipgwriting) Chris (@JesuInToast) SUBMISSIONS &...


Ep. 159: A Podcast For All You Asian Americans In Line At Costco

Trying something new! In the spirit of social distancing, Teen (me) does a solo podcast, with nobody else other than my coronavirus-dodging self. I'm filled with thoughts about being Chinese American in the time of COVID-19, how to contextualize that, and what the future looks like. There is a false take that the Chinese character for crisis = danger + opportunity. Perhaps fake Chinese takes can be of some help. Support us on Patreon! TWITTER: Teen (@mont_jiang)...


Ep. 158: Coronavirus and Attacks on Asians

Special guest Will got into a lot of fights while growing up in the UK due to racist bullies. Jong has experienced similar things as well. With Chris, they discuss their personal stories and how Asians should (and should not) respond to the increasingly publicized coronavirus-related attacks on Asians. Support us on Patreon! TWITTER: Jong (@calicoarse) Chris (@JesuInToast) REFERENCED RESOURCES: SF Bayview attack: Suspect arrested in robbery, hate crime against...


Ep. 157 (Preview): Bernie, Biden, and the Neverending Campaign

Teen and Chris discuss canvassing for local politicians in Queens, and the aftermath of Super Tuesday. After what seems like an entire year of campaigning, we are down to the final two viable Democratic candidates... and a full 8 months to go before the actual election. With the likes of MSNBC and CNN on full 24-hour Situation Room style reporting, will people just be totally exhausted and sick of politics by Fall? Support us on Patreon! TWITTER: Teen (@mont_jiang)...


Ep. 156: Revisiting The Trumpquake

For many people, Trump's election in November 2016 was a huge wake-up call that demanded new mindsets. New guest Nate Chan (a filmmaker in NYC) was living on a sheep farm in Norway (supposedly one of the best countries to live in) when Trump was elected, and he discusses with Chris what led him there in the first place and how the Trump victory not only made him come back to the U.S., but to also find his Asian American "tribe." Support us on Patreon! See Nate's work...


Ep. 155 (Preview): The Hollywood Emperors Have No Clothes

Recently, Jess has been taking an interest in screenwriting and with Chris, they talk about why people partake in the creative process (which is often a time-consuming and difficult endeavor) and why the recent failures of blockbusters like Game of Thrones' final season and the new Star Wars trilogy says about the direction of American pop culture. Support us on Patreon! TWITTER: Jess (@cogitatotomato) Chris (@JesuInToast) SUBMISSIONS & COMMENTS:...


Ep. 154: Blaming Coronavirus on Confucius ft. Amanda (@catcontentonly)

The coronavirus panic has enabled some of the dumbest Sinophobic takes in the prestige press. And few have been better at calling out this idiocy than EFPA's latest guest, Amanda (or better known on Twitter as @catcontentonly). In this episode, along with Chris and Teen, the discussion goes from critiquing these articles to delving into how and why Asian Americans come to realize that there's something rotten in this country's attitude towards Asians. Support us on Patreon!...


Ep. 153 (Preview): Munchausen By Proxy Over Stockholm Syndrome

The online Asian American discourse often involves accusations of "Stockholm Syndrome," which infers that particular Asian American writers and other public voices suffer from a kind of white worship as a result of being under white supremacist or colonialist oppression. However, this stark relationship doesn't seem to properly describe the relationship we have with liberal, multicultural institutions such as the New York Times, which conscientiously includes Asian American voices. We...


Ep. 152: Lazy Sunday Pod Brunch

Over virtual mimosas and eggs benedict, Teen and Chris (FKA Oxford) talk about the impending 'Parasite' remake, why "woke" movie marketing often fails, and how Mayor Bloomberg ushered in the 'Sex and the City' era of Manhattan elitism that is now fiercely battling to maintain its lost relevance against Trump and Bernie's respective political/cultural movements. Support us on Patreon! TWITTER: Chris (@JesuInToast) Teen (@mont_jiang) REFERENCED RESOURCES: Tweet noting...


Ep. 151 (Preview): 'Parasite's' Historic Win and Mango Poetry (ft. Yasmin Nair)

Yasmin Nair joins Teen to talk about the trope of navel gazing Asian American essay. We find it all the time these days in places like the New York Times -- politically limp-wristed writing about our childhood insecurities, cultural homelessness, all to appeal to white readers to 'understand' us. Some call it Mango Poetry. We also talk A LOT about Jason Momoa for some reason... JOIN THE PATREON! TWITTER: Teen (@mont_jiang) Yasmin (@NairYasmin)...


Ep. 150: Why Are Asian Men So Fixated On WMAF?

Diana, Bryant and Teen hang out in Boston together for the first time (along with her lovely dog Minus) to talk about a topic that simply refuses to go away from the Asian American online discourse. Just why are Asian men so fixated on the topic of WMAF? And why does Asian masculinity/emasculation take up so much of the bandwidth? Has the amount of time spent on masculinity issues actually been of use to people? Support us on Patreon! TWITTER: Diana (@discoveryduck)...


Ep. 149 [UNLOCKED]: Coronavirus is the New Red Scare

Diana, Jess, Filip and Teen talk about personal incidents of racism related to the coronavirus outbreak. Despite the WHO calling for international solidarity, there is a dramatic rise in anti-Asian racism fueled by a media which seeks to take political advantage of a public health crisis. Support us on Patreon! TWITTER: Diana (@discoveryduck) Jess (@cogitatotomato) Filip(@@filipgwriting) Teen (@mont_jiang) REFERENCED RESOURCES: Jess's Tweet on how attacking Chinese...


Ep. 148: Go Bernie! On the Eve of Iowa (ft. Trevor Beaulieu and Phan)

Though this is not an official Escape From Plan A endorsement (who the hell are we to endorse anyone?), Teen and Oxford are joined by returning guests Trevor Beaulieu of Champagne Sharks and Phan of Pod of Most Resistance to talk about their reasons for supporting Bernie Sanders. Special focuses are placed on the last-ditch desperation attempts to paint Bernie's campaign as sexist (e.g. Warren allegations and Rogan endorsement) and why the seemingly official AAPI endorsements of Warren and...


Ep. 147 (Preview): Do Asian American Narratives Have A Low Ceiling?

In light of The Farewell's (expected?) lackluster performance in China, Jess and Oxford talk about whether the Asian American storyline, especially those of 2nd-generation AsAms, has a limit. Oxford ponders whether AsAms are a Lost Generation and whether we can simultaneously stay true to our roots while not rehashing the same tropes, while Jess talks about the suffocating effects of "good representation." *This is a bonus episode for Patreon subscribers! For the full episode, please become...


Ep. 146: It's All About Immigration

Cut through the political noise, and get to the low notes, the bass-line. It's all about immigration. Who gets to be an American going forward. Trump represents a discontinuity in how we think about immigration, a sharp departure from the system we've had in place since 1965. Jess, Mark and Teen discuss how, just because this shift began with Trump, does not mean it will end with him. What does this mean for Asian American political identity going forward? Support us on Patreon!...


Ep. 145: America's Hidden History of Military Prostitution in South Korea (ft. Tim Shorrock)

Teen speaks with the journalist Tim Shorrock (The Nation) to look past the simplistic mainstream narrative of "Good Korea/Bad Korea," and into the troubling legacy of American militarism on the peninsula. Tim's recent article "Welcome to the Monkey House" details the kichijon system, a coercive system of prostitution that bears a disturbing similarity to the Japanese "comfort stations" employed during the Second World War. REFERENCED RESOURCES: "Welcome to the Monkey House":...


Ep. 144 (Preview): Why Are Kids Performing 'Miss Saigon'??

The Boston Plan A crew (Diana, J and Bryant) get together to talk about the persistence of Miss Saigon in American culture, why that's a problem, and why are so many Asian Americans fans of this musical built on the worst Orientalist and imperialist tropes? *This is a bonus episode for Patreon subscribers! For the full episode, please become a patron at: TWITTER: J (@j_maraan) Diana (@discoveryduck) Bryant (@mfbt) SUBMISSIONS & COMMENTS:


Ep. 143: The Social Value Of Asian American Comedy (ft. Joe Wong)

Joe Wong joins Diana and Teen to talk about the social value of Asian American comedy. It's been a kind of golden era -- from Ali Wong's continued breakout success to Ronnie Chieng's recent Netflix comedy special -- but what role do our best comics play in an era marked by social disorder and antagonisms? Joe Wong offers his view of this exciting but high-stakes era of Asian American comedy. TWITTER: Joe Wong (@JoeWongComedy) Diana (@discoveryduck) Teen (@mont_jiang) SUBMISSIONS & COMMENTS:...