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Two for Tea with Iona Italia and Helen Pluckrose


Podcast by Iona Italia and Helen Pluckrose

Podcast by Iona Italia and Helen Pluckrose


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Podcast by Iona Italia and Helen Pluckrose






77 - Sean B. Carroll - Revolutionising Our Understanding of Evo Biology [Public Limited Version]

Note: Sean B. Carroll the evolutionary biologist and Sean M. Carroll the quantum physicist are both equally awe-inspiring. They are not the same person. Sean’s new book A Series of Fortunate Events: Chance and the Making of the Planet, Life, and You (2020) can be found here: Sean’s classic book Endless Forms Most Beautiful: The New Science of Evo Devo and the...


76 - Visakan Veerasamy - A Friendly Ambitious Nerd [Public Limited Version]

You can find Visa’s book here: Subscribe to Visa’s YouTube channel: Follow Visa on Twitter @visakanv Further References The wisdom of crowds concept is well described in Philip E. Tetlock and Dan Gardner’s Superforecasting: The Art and Science of Prediction (2015) See @naval’s Twitter account, whose approach I compare with Visakan’s Sonke Ahrens, How to Take Smart Notes (2017) The Karate Kid (1984); Cobra Kai (2018—)...


75 - Fred Martin - French Secularism (Laïcité) [Public Limited Version]

Erratum: The attack on Charlie Hebdo took place in 2015, not 2017 (I misspoke). References Fred’s open letter following Charlie Hebdo: In defence of Charlie Hebdo: Fred on the face coverings ban: The burqa ban: Follow Fred on Twitter @fred_connection Further References La République en actes : discours et conférence de...


74 - William Costello - Compassion for Incels

References William’s article, “Step Your Dick Up: Why Incels Deserve Better Advice”: William’s other discussions of this topic can be found here: Incel: 36: “Step Your Dick Up” w/ William Costello on Apple Podcasts - ICMI20: William Costello - Step Your Dick Up: Incels and Men Generally...


73 - Nick Clairmont - The Language of Wokeness [Public Limited Version]

Nick’s writing for Arc Digital: Nick’s “Word of the Week” column for the Washington Examiner: Nick on wokese for Tablet: Some particularly relevant essays of Nick’s:


72 - Matthew Browne - Why People Gamble [Public Limited Version]

For more on Matt’s work on gambling see: You can find his podcast with Chris Kavanaugh, “Decoding the Gurus” here and on most reputable podcast apps: Follow Matt on Twitter @arthurcdent Further References Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, Flow (1990) George Eliot, Middlemarch: A Study of Provincial Life (1871–72); Daniel Deronda (1876) Stuart J. Ritchie, Science Fictions: Exposing Fraud, Bias, Negligence and...


71 - Ralph Leonard - Claiming the Birthright of Humanity [Public Limited Version]

References Ralph Leonard, a writer for UnHerd: See esp: Why are we racialising Beethoven? - The Post ( and Stop apologising for cultural appropriation - UnHerd: Ralph Leonard, Author at Areo ( Ralph Leonard, Author at Uncommon Ground...


70 - Adam Burgoyne - Recovery From Addiction

Follow Adam on Twitter @adamdavid85


69 - Ewan Morrison - Utopias and Dystopias [Public Limited Version]

To follow Ewan’s work: His 2012 collection, Tales from the Mall, can be found here: His 2019 novel, Nina X, can be found here: His 2013 book Close Your Eyes can be found here: His 2005 collection The Last Book You Read can be round here:...


68 - Kat Rosenfield - Dating in the Digital Age

Kat is the author of two novels—Amelia Anne is Dead and Gone (2012); Inland (2014)—and the co-author of A Trick of Light: Stan Lee's Alliances (2020). You can find out more about her writing here: You can listen to the Feminine Chaos podcast here (and elsewhere): Kat is also the agony aunt at Yascha Mounk’s Persuasion, available on substack, here: The following articles of Kat’s...


67 - Francesca Minerva - Controversial Ideas, including about Beauty

Find out more about Francesca, including her academic publications, here: For more on the Journal of Controversial Ideas, co-edited with Peter Singer: Her interview with Jay Shapiro can be found here: For more on Francesca’s controversial paper with Francesco Giubilini: Her 2004 paper in Bioethics on academic freedom can be found...


66 - Stuart Ritchie - Hype, Bias & Fraud in Science

Stuart is the author of Intelligence: All that Matters (2015): and Science Fictions: Exposing Fraud, Bias, Negligence and Hype in Science (2020): You can find some of his academic publications listed here: Follow Stuart on Twitter: @StuartJRitchie Further References Charles...


65 - Helen Pluckrose - Cynical Theories and Their Liberal Opponents

Helen’s book, co-written with James A. Lindsay, Cynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race, Gender, and Identity—and Why This Harms Everybody (2020) can be found here: Helen’s writing for Areo magazine can be found here: For more on the Sokal Squared hoax, which Helen perpetrated, alongside James Lindsay and Peter Boghossian see:...


64 - Azra Raza - A Better Way to Fight Cancer

For more about Azra, see her website: The First Cell: And the Human Costs of Pursuing Cancer to the Last is available here: Her book with Sara Suleri Goodyear, Ghalib and the Epistemologies of Elegance is available here: Her physician profile can be found here: Follow Azra on Twitter: @AzraRazaMD Further...


63 - Ayishat Akanbi - Styles of Identity

You can find out more about Ayishat by visiting her website: Follow Ayishat on Twitter: @ayishat_akanbi Further Notes Ayishat on the Triggernometry podcast: Radclyffe Hall, The Well of Loneliness (1928) Timestamps 3:40 How Ayishat first became a professional cultural commentator. How we communicate through dress and how we communicate through ideas. 5:35 Changes to Ayishat’s worldview after her brother’s death 15:38...


62 - Scott Barry Kaufman - What We Are Capable of Becoming

You can find out more about Scott’s work here: Scott’s book, Transcend: The New Science of Self-Actualisation: Scott’s interview on Sam Harris’ Making Sense podcast: Scott’s interview with Sean Carroll:


61 - Diana Fleischman - How We Have Evolved to Manipulate Each Other

For updates on Diana’s work, see her website: My favourite other interview of Diana’s can be found here: Follow Diana on Twitter: @sentientist Further References Daniel Pink, Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us (2009) J. Michael Bailey, The Man Who Would Be Queen: The Science of Gender-Bending and Transsexualism (2003) Jorge Luis Borges, “Funes el Memorioso” (1944):


60 - Liam Kofi Bright - The Search for Truth

You can find out more about Liam’s academic credentials here: Liam’s talk on “Why Scientists Lie” can be found here: Remco Heesen and Liam on “Is Peer Review a Good Thing”?: Listen to Liam’s interview with Sean Carroll on the nature of truth here: Listen to Liam’s interviews with Andrew Lynn Lewis here:...


59 - Clint Margrave - Academic Realities and Fictions

Clint’s poetry collection Salute the Wreckage can be found here: His collection The Early Death of Men can be found here: His novel, Lying Bastard, can be found here: Write to Clint: Follow Clint on Twitter: @clintmargrave Further References...


58 - John R. Wood, Jr and Roderick Graham - Black Lives and the George Floyd Protests

For more of Rod’s work: Rod’s YouTube channel: Write to Rod at Letter: Follow Rod on Twitter @roderickgraham For more on John R. Wood’s work: John’s philosophy of virtue ethics: My previous podcast with John:...