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The Jay Forrest Show is a podcast exploring philosophy, psychology, and religion through enlightening and informative interviews, helping people discover their own wisdom path. Join us on a journey through ancient wisdom and modern science, as we discover the secrets to a wiser, happier, and more meaningful life.

The Jay Forrest Show is a podcast exploring philosophy, psychology, and religion through enlightening and informative interviews, helping people discover their own wisdom path. Join us on a journey through ancient wisdom and modern science, as we discover the secrets to a wiser, happier, and more meaningful life.
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The Jay Forrest Show is a podcast exploring philosophy, psychology, and religion through enlightening and informative interviews, helping people discover their own wisdom path. Join us on a journey through ancient wisdom and modern science, as we discover the secrets to a wiser, happier, and more meaningful life.








038 McMindfulness, a Critique

McMindfulness: How Mindfulness Became the New Capitalist Spirituality, is a new book by Ronald E. Purser, who is a Professor of Management at San Francisco State University. What the book doesn’t tell you, is that Mr. Purser (2019) is an “ordained Zen Dharma Teacher in the Korean Zen Taego order of Buddhism.” The book is basically a neo-maxist criticism of the mindfulness movement in general, and Jon Kabat-Zinn in particular. As I point out in this episode, the mindfulness movement has its...


037 Creating a Religion

It was only after I created Bodhidaoism that I thought, “Wow, I created a religion.” Then I thought, “Wow what arrogance. I mean, who do I think I am to be the founder of a religion.” The next thought was, “Wow, what ignorance.” I know better than anyone how unqualified I am. But no one else is doing this. No one else is setting out to create a personal religion based on scientific naturalism. I had no choice, there were no other options. And furthermore, it is inevitable. Everyone creates...


036 What is Knowledge?

Epistemology is a branch of theology that is concerned with the study of knowledge, or coming up with a theory of knowledge. The long standing definition of knowledge has been that it is justified true belief. Then came along what has been called the Gettier problem. This brought the definition into question. Another difficulty is that there is no certainty that any belief about the external world is true. That would mean that we can never be sure whether something is knowledge or not. My...


035 The Meaning Crisis

We are living in a time where there are so many different views of reality that it is hard to tell what’s true. In fact, many people have given up. Life is meaningless to them. What’s the point. But there is a way out of the meaning crisis. We have to begin by deciding on a methodology and then apply it ruthlessly. Reality may not turn out how we life. But if we want tp find meaning in the real world then we have to face reality as it is.


034 Turning 55

I am turning 55 today. In this episode I do some reflecting on my spiritual journey and my path from Christianity to Buddhism. June 21st is also the celebration of Buddhism in Bodhidaoism’s Wheel of the Year. I talk a little about the problems of Christianity and Buddhism. I also reflect on what Buddhism means to me and why I consider Bodhidaoism kind of like a Buddhism 3.0.


033 Scientific Naturalism

What is scientific naturalism? Scientific naturalism is the view that, based on the evidence, the natural world is all there is, and that science is the best means of knowledge about this world. Scientific naturalism is the foundation on which Bodhidaoism is built. If you don’t agree with scientific naturalism, then Bodhidaoism is not the spiritual path for you. Bodhidaoism is the only systematic personal religion that is based on scientific naturalism which incorporates the best insights of...


032 The Wheel of the Year

Nature has a rhythm, and we should be in tune with it, by following the movement of the Sun. The Wheel of the Year has its roots in Paganism, celebrating the Winter and Summer Solstice and the Spring and Fall Equinox, and halfway points between these. These eight points match perfectly with the Eight Wisdom Traditions of Bodhidaoism. In the Bodhidaoist Wheel of the Year we celebrate one Wisdom Tradition on each of these eight solar points. Bodhidaoist Wheel of the Year Dec 25 - Christianity...


031 Psychospiritual Growth

Psychospiritual growth is development “of, involving, or relating to the interrelation of the mind and spirituality” (OED). It involves two types of growth, personal growth and spiritual growth. Personal growth has three basic stages of dependence, independence, and interdependence. Interdependence has two substages, social and cosmic. Spiritual growth has to do with the growth of consciousness and it has three stages of subconscious, self-conscious, and superconscious. Superconscious is...


030 Transpersonal Psychology

An introduction to transpersonal psychology and its amazing scope, as well as its pros and cons. Transpersonal psychology can be defined as “the psychological study of transpersonal experience and their correlates. These correlates include the nature, varieties, causes, and effects of transpersonal experiences and development, as well as the psychologies, philosophies, disciplines, arts, cultures, life-styles, reactions, and religions that are inspired by them, or that seek to induce,...


029 Psychology and Spirituality

Psychology deals with flourishing, while spirituality deals with awakening. This week I share my deep dive into transpersonal psychology and share some of my impressions. I also share my conviction that a spiritual path must combine psychology and spirituality in order to produce a path that is worth pursuing. I also try to explain what flourishing is and why happiness is not what we should pursue. In fact, to pursue happiness is one of the surest ways to make sure you never experience it....


028 Deconstructing God

The concept of God can be deconstructed into four aspects: fate, personal ideal, ultimate concern, and reality. For me, the word God does not stand for all of these. Specifically, I don’t believe in a personal God. I see God as more of a metaphor for the laws and rhythm and flow of the Universe. I think Tao is a better word for this than God. Reality is the Cosmos, the Cosmos is the Tao when referring to its significance and our relationship with it. Fate is the Tao, for the Cosmos is...


027 God, Christianity, and Paganism

Naturalistic Pantheism is now a part of Bodhidaoism. Pantheism is the belief that all is God and God is all. Looking at reality objectively, the natural world is all that exists (Naturalism). Looking at reality subjectively, the Cosmos is Divine. The first is a statement of ontology, the second a value statement expressed metaphorically. Because of this incorporation of God-talk, I have subtracted Existentialism and Humanism from the Eight Streams, and I have added Paganism and Christianity.


026 God Talk, Yes or No?

I don’t don’t believe in a theistic God. If there is anything that can be called “God”, it is the universe itself. This position is called pantheism. There are pros and cons to calling the universe God. I lay some of them out in this podcast and then ask the listening, should I use God talk or not in Bodhidaoism? And why? This is your chance to influence to outcome of Bodhidaoism. Please leave a comment below for email me directly (I give the email address at the end of the podcast). If you...


025 Cultural Unraveling

Jordan Peterson has written, “Something we cannot see protects us from something we do not understand. The thing we cannot see is culture, in its intrapsychic or internal manifestations. The thing we do not understand is the chaos that gave rise to culture. If the structure of culture is disrupted, unwittingly, chaos returns.” Postmodernism is disrupting or unraveling culture as we know it. I explain structuralism and Jacques Lacan application of it to schizophrenia, and then Fredric...


024 What is Religion?

Robert Crawford notes that “there is no universally accepted definition of religion.” And John Hick thinks that “quite possibly there never will be.” Most definitions of religion say that religion involves "a belief in God or gods." But this doesn’t apply to Jainism, Buddhism, or early Daoism. Let me give you my latest definition of religion, “A religion is a comprehensive system of beliefs and practices, followed by a group of people, that is centered on an ultimate concern, and that gives...


023 Dualistic Monism

Dualistic monism in holds that the one reality that we know about has a two-fold aspect to it. For example, there is positive and negative, inside and outside, subjective and objective, light and dark, good and evil, hot and cold, up and down, male and female, and many more. Regular dualism separates these dualities and monism ignores these dualities, making everything one. Dualistic monism breaks out of this either/or mentality and postulates a both/and position. Reality is has both a unity...


022 Identity Politics and the Intellectual Dark Web

“Identity politics is the tendency for people of a particular race, religion, gender, or ethnicity to organize politically around that special interest for the sole purpose of advancing that interest without concern or regard for any larger group or collective” (Capital Research Center). The intellectual dark web is “an alternative sense meaning making collective” (Eric Weinstein). Included in this group are Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Joe Rogan, Dave Rubin, Sam Harris, Bret Weinstein,...


021 Exploring Bodhidaoism

The plan is to write a eight book series on Exploring Bodhidaoism. If I write two books a year, this will take me four years. This is why I have stopped blogging. The eight books are Eupraxsophy, Epistemology, Metaphysics, Autology, Ethics, Eudaimonology, Ecospirituality, and Praxeology. In this episode I explain each of these in varying degree. It should be interesting to those interested in seeing how Bodhidaoism develops. I will continue doing the podcast every week.


020 Three Kinds of Knowledge

There are three kinds of knowledge, propositional knowledge, experiential knowledge, and pragmatic knowledge. There is the objective knowledge about something, there is the subjective and personal knowledge of someone or something, and then there is know how. From these three we derive the three tests of truth, correspondence, coherence, and consequences.


019 Existentialism, the 8th Stream

Bodhidaoism, until now, has had seven streams of inspiration. From the Western side it has has Epicureanism, Stoicism, and Humanism. And from the Eastern side it has had Jainism, Buddhism, Confucianism, and Daoism. Today I add an eighth wisdom tradition, namely Existentialism. Jean-Paul Sartre defines existentialism as “a doctrine which makes human life possible and, in addition, declares that every truth and every action implies a human setting and a human subjectivity.” References...