The Discerning Leader Podcast

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Jeff Crosby “Embracing the mystery is good enough” – Jeff Crosby Jeff Crosby joins the podcast to talk about longings - the inner ache and sadness that we feel at times. From Jeff’s newest book, The Language of the Soul: Meeting God in the Longings of our Hearts, Jeff teaches that the longings we experience are places for God to meet us. Jeff walks us through several longings from the book - the longing for home, for friendship, for heaven and for an undivided life. All of us carry longings in our hearts. The invitation is to be attentive to those longings and invite the Lord of the universe to meet with us in the midst of them and to take time to cultivate spiritual practice that makes us more aware of God’s presence in our lives. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: KeumJu Jewel Hyun “Whether you like it or not, you are in the leadership position. Who do you think you work for?” – KeumJu Jewel Hyun KeumJu Jewel Hyun joins the podcast to talk about the role of servant leadership within the heart of a discerning leader. Jewel is an author, a professor, and the founder of Matthew 28 Ministries, which focuses on Christian women’s leadership development and economic empowerment in Kenya. Jewel’s most recent work, The Quest for Biblical Servant Leadership: Insights from the Global Church, is a collaboration of Christian authors from around the globe. In this podcast episode Jewel shares the insight discovered from diverse cultures from Kenya to Canada to Korea. Listen and discover the common leadership thread across many diverse cultures. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Philip Yancey “Nature, beauty, love, these are good things. They must have been given to us by God. That’s what grace is. It’s a free gift we didn't deserve. That’s my story, being drawn back to God, not by fearsome threats, but by the experience of God’s grace.” – Philip Yancey Award-winning author Philip Yancey is on the podcast this week to share his own life story. He candidly shares about his discovery that God is not the “super cop in the sky” looking for someone to punish but is the giver of all good things - including nature, beauty, and love. Philip teaches us that when we live as if our hands are closed in fists, God’s grace falls to the ground unreceived. He encourages us to live openhandedly and generously because that is how God treats us. Philip ends the conversation by sharing his hope for the Church in our time. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Barbara Peacock “I believe the foundation of effective leadership is understanding and embracing and living out the discipline of love.” – Barbara Peacock The Discerning Leader podcast returns from a summer break to focus on the Heart of a Discerning Leader. Our first guest for Season 27 is Barbara Peacock - an award-winning author, spiritual director, teacher, and intercessor. Her recent book, Spiritual Practices for Soul Care, has just been released by Baker books. Barbara joins Steve to talk about leadership as loving people. She reminds us that we are first called to love God and then to love people and not things. Barbara shares an original poem she wrote entitled Silencing Today and encourages us to be attentive in our love for God and towards others. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Susan Currie This is a reprise of season 3 episode 5 of The Discerning Leader Podcast. "In the celebration of Sabbath, we explore the command and accept the invitation to dwell with God with a deep, resounding yes – with gusto!" – Susan Currie The fourth rhythm of Sabbath is “celebrating” the joy and delight of our identity and freedom in Christ. When we gather with the family of God on Sabbath – for worship, fellowship, prayer, and relationship building – we are reminding each other of the with God life we share. Weekly worship with our faith community is like a dress rehearsal for a wedding: the wedding feast of the Lamb, when the bridegroom returns for his bride once more. In this life we “make every effort” to enter that rest (Hebrews 4: 9) with a Jubilee taste of heaven on our hearts and minds. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Susan Currie This is a reprise of season 3 episode 4 of The Discerning Leader Podcast. "We realize our deepest, truest, eternal part of us as God’s dearly loved children when we rest. What God does in us when we rest is carried into all aspects of life." – Susan Currie Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath and when he frustrated the religious leaders by healing on the Sabbath, he was a delight to those he came to serve and set free. Sabbath reminds us of our true identity in Christ, in all aspects of our personhood, and ushers us into the fullness of our salvation. Embracing our eternal identity is best known and experienced in times of Sabbath rest and ever-deepening trust. “You are my beloved” are the words from God that restore and renew us, as we welcome and embrace creativity, spontaneity, imagination, and beauty. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Susan Currie This is a reprise of season 3 episode 3 of The Discerning Leader Podcast. "You have been set free (in God), so keep the Sabbath! This is what Sabbath rest is all about. We don’t want to lose our memory for tasting the goodness of God." – Susan Currie God’s loving invitation and specific commandment is to Sabbath rest – for all. The people of God were ushered into the Promised Land and reminded to rest, always to remember their years of bondage in Egypt. God urges us likewise to live fully and abundantly, in freedom and joy, recalling how we too can let our daily work become bondage for our soul. Our drivenness and constant effort keeps us from refreshing and renewing rest. But, trusting God with heart, soul, mind, and strength will lead us to a restful lifestyle, renewed in the grace of God. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Susan Currie This is a reprise of season 3 episode 2 of The Discerning Leader Podcast. "Sabbath ceasing is meant for everyone and every living creature our lives touch: our children, our animals, all in our household. God rests in order to delight in his creation. So too are we made to rest in order to engage our creational identity." – Susan Currie Sabbath rest is the turnkey to the deeper life. Ceasing can be the most difficult of all the Sabbath rhythms, as it requires us to stop what we normally do in order to embrace that which offers us more of the abundant life. Sabbath reminds us not to be productivity machines, but instead be people who value relationships, first and foremost with God. As God says “trust me” he knows how hard that will be for us, especially if we have a tendency toward a hurried and harried life. Ceasing work and technology are two examples of stopping in order to rest well. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Susan Currie This is a reprise of season 3 episode 1 of The Discerning Leader Podcast. "Discernment is about being with God, paying attention to God, letting our every word and effort come from attentiveness to God. Sabbath is the place that nurtures that attentiveness." – Susan Currie Sabbath nurtures our attentiveness to God and thereby enhances our practicing a preference for God. From the creation account in Genesis we see God’s choice to rest after completing his work, delighting in the beauty of all that was established. We are invited to join God in the blessing and holiness of Sabbath rest and enjoy the gifts offered as we’re attuned to his priority. Sabbath rest encourages a pace of life that allows us to see, hear, and notice God’s goodness and grace amidst our very full lives. Let’s slow down enough to listen more restfully to God. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: David Vryhof This is a reprise of season 2 episode 5 of The Discerning Leader Podcast. Reflection is an important spiritual discipline, inviting us to notice, remember, and give thanks. It is practiced in a variety of ways, from journaling to photography, and especially in the ancient practice of Examen. In reflection we are seeking the Spirit’s guidance to illuminate the path we’ve walked and attend to his presence and power every step of the way. As discerning leaders, it’s preferable to live a reflective life, noticing our feelings, actions, and attitudes, and intentionally realigning our motivations, drives, and values toward God’s delightful priorities. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: David Vryhof This is a reprise of season 2 episode 4 of The Discerning Leader Podcast. Prayer is a huge, somewhat daunting subject. No one has mastered prayer. In fact, if we’re honest, we are all simply beginners. This episode explores the inward, upward, and outward nature of prayer, in both the “secret place” of our prayer closet, as well as in our public worship and community life. Prayer is a conversation between God and his children, with God as primary initiator, offering his love and inviting our love in return. Our posture is to be one of receptivity, openness, listening and noticing God’s loving voice of comfort, guidance, and joy. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: David Vryhof This is a reprise of season 2 episode 3 of The Discerning Leader Podcast. Instead of studying the Word to preach or teach it, Lectio Divina invites us to simply listen and receive the Word as a gift of love from God to us, his beloved children. Discerning leaders know the power of the Word and delight when the Scriptures come alive in our prayer closets. As a primary spiritual practice, lectio divina encourages us to feast on a slow and prayerfully meditative reading of God’s Word. In this episode we look at the six rhythms of lectio and behold how the Word comes alive as it’s prayerfully and repetitively held as a gift of love. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: David Vryhof This is a reprise of season 2 episode 2 of The Discerning Leader Podcast. We live in an incredibly noisy world. Distractions abound, vying for our attention all throughout our days. Choosing a subversive, counter-cultural pursuit of exterior and interior silence is what separates a discerning leader from society’s norm. Silence and solitude is where we hear the whisper of God, enveloping us with love and affection. It’s the place where Jesus often was found, before the sun rose or late in the evening, discerning the loving voice of the Father. Finding our way to interior stillness is a great challenge but an even more significant reward. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: David Vryhof This is a reprise of season 2 episode 1 of The Discerning Leader Podcast. A discerning leader understands that service to others is based upon a relationship with God and thereby prioritizes the nurture of the soul. Commencing a new series, Steve Macchia and his spiritual director, Br. David Vryhof (www.ssje.org), explore the importance of spiritual practices as a foundation on which to deepen a life with God. Since we generally live unreflective lives, we need the space, the grace, and the rhythms to pursue on our pathway to greater union with God. Spiritual practices are a means to the abundant life. It’s all about love! Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Jeremy Stefano This is a reprise of season 1 episode 5 of The Discerning Leader Podcast. Imagining what it would be like if the Church were filled with discerning leaders, Steve and Jeremy dream together about a Church filled with those who regularly turn to God. With Romans 12: 1,2 as backdrop for today’s episode, we explore six principles for practicing discernment together as leadership teams. Out of a transformed and renewed mind, we are able to test, affirm, and discern God’s good and perfect will. The goal: a lifestyle of spiritual discernment for leaders and communities and a lifetime of companionship with God. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Jeremy Stefano This is a reprise of season 1 episode 4 of The Discerning Leader Podcast. Psalm 139 reminds us that God discerns all of our ways out of his abundant and unconditional love for us. His attentiveness toward us evokes a response of attentiveness to him. Discernment means to perceive, recognize, sift, sort, and separate, learning to know what is knowable. To practice a preference for God helps us lean more and more fully his direction, discerning him courageously and gratefully. Steve and Jeremy unpack noticing God in revelatory, reasoning, and discerning times. They also discuss the role of consolation and desolation in discernment. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Jeremy Stefano This is a reprise of season 1 episode 3 of The Discerning Leader Podcast. Beginning with the prayer of the Apostle Paul to the Church in Philippi and ending with his prayer to the Colossians, Steve and Jeremy unpack some of the most essential ingredients of prayerful discernment. They discuss the importance of an experiential knowledge of and an ever-deepening intimacy with God. And, they lovingly caution us not to slip into the mind-to-mind combat so many teams encounter at their strategy tables. Instead, choosing to become a community of love and prayerfulness will lead us into Christ-honoring discernment. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Jeremy Stefano This is a reprise of season 1 episode 2 of The Discerning Leader Podcast. Continuing the conversation about spiritual discernment, Steve and Jeremy look at how Jesus’ mother and disciples were either kept from or open to his presence and mission. The Gospels are filled with stories that provide real-life opportunities for practicing a preference for God. Defining the attributes of discernment with the backdrop of Jesus’ earthly journey gives us important glimpses into the clarity of his teaching and mission. The way forward for all of us is seen in the simple yet profound intentionality of seeing God everywhere. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Jeremy Stefano This is a reprise of season 1 episode 1 of The Discerning Leader Podcast. On this inaugural episode, Steve and Jeremy recount one of the pinnacle accounts of discernment in Luke 24. The Road to Emmaus is a wonderful example of discernment as a way of life, and not simply a way to make decisions. Noticing the presence, power, and peace of Jesus is the beginning, middle, and end of healthy spiritual discernment. And, like the disciples on the Road to Emmaus, so too do we need to practice a preference for God and encourage one another to look for Jesus along our lifelong journeys of faith. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Gary Franklin “For the first twenty years of my ministry, discernment wasn’t a part of my way of life - it was just busyness and activity.” – Gary Franklin A large part of discernment is learning to pay attention to our soul. Gary Franklin is a pastor in the greater Atlanta area who has ministered for over four decades, is the founder of the Leaders Heart Inc, and is a graduate of LTI’s Emmaus program. Gary joins Steve Macchia to share his story of transformation, becoming a formational leader rather than a strategic leader. Gary describes his journey as one of holding on to God’s presence, peace, power, and courage in the context of massive transitions. We are encouraged to cultivate our capacity to be present with God, to know ourselves, and restore the wonder of God’s presence. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.