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The podcast where we mix a sometimes weird but always delicious cocktail of theology, philosophy, and spirituality. We're a pastor and a philosopher who have discovered that sometimes pastors need philosophy, and sometimes philosophers need pastors. We tackle topics and interview guests that straddle the divide between our interests. Who we are: Randy Knie (Co-Host) - Randy is the founding and Lead Pastor of Brew City Church in Milwaukee, WI. Randy loves his family, the Church, cooking, and the sound of his own voice. He drinks boring pilsners. Kyle Whitaker (Co-Host) - Kyle is Visiting Assistant Professor of philosophy at Marquette University in Milwaukee, WI. Kyle loves his wife, sarcasm, kindness, and making fun of pop psychology. He drinks childish slushy beers. Elliot Lund (Producer) - Elliot is a recovering fundamentalist. His favorite people are his wife and three boys, and his favorite things are computers and hamburgers. Elliot loves mixing with a variety of ingredients, including Rye, compression, EQ, and bitters.

The podcast where we mix a sometimes weird but always delicious cocktail of theology, philosophy, and spirituality. We're a pastor and a philosopher who have discovered that sometimes pastors need philosophy, and sometimes philosophers need pastors. We tackle topics and interview guests that straddle the divide between our interests. Who we are: Randy Knie (Co-Host) - Randy is the founding and Lead Pastor of Brew City Church in Milwaukee, WI. Randy loves his family, the Church, cooking, and the sound of his own voice. He drinks boring pilsners. Kyle Whitaker (Co-Host) - Kyle is Visiting Assistant Professor of philosophy at Marquette University in Milwaukee, WI. Kyle loves his wife, sarcasm, kindness, and making fun of pop psychology. He drinks childish slushy beers. Elliot Lund (Producer) - Elliot is a recovering fundamentalist. His favorite people are his wife and three boys, and his favorite things are computers and hamburgers. Elliot loves mixing with a variety of ingredients, including Rye, compression, EQ, and bitters.

Location:

United States

Description:

The podcast where we mix a sometimes weird but always delicious cocktail of theology, philosophy, and spirituality. We're a pastor and a philosopher who have discovered that sometimes pastors need philosophy, and sometimes philosophers need pastors. We tackle topics and interview guests that straddle the divide between our interests. Who we are: Randy Knie (Co-Host) - Randy is the founding and Lead Pastor of Brew City Church in Milwaukee, WI. Randy loves his family, the Church, cooking, and the sound of his own voice. He drinks boring pilsners. Kyle Whitaker (Co-Host) - Kyle is Visiting Assistant Professor of philosophy at Marquette University in Milwaukee, WI. Kyle loves his wife, sarcasm, kindness, and making fun of pop psychology. He drinks childish slushy beers. Elliot Lund (Producer) - Elliot is a recovering fundamentalist. His favorite people are his wife and three boys, and his favorite things are computers and hamburgers. Elliot loves mixing with a variety of ingredients, including Rye, compression, EQ, and bitters.

Language:

English

Contact:

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Episodes

What Is Truth: Wrestling with Absolutism, Relativism and Alternative Facts

4/7/2021
In this episode, Kyle and Randy geek out a little bit about truth. Truth is a tricky term these days, with everyone believing their own "facts" or having their own truths and alternative facts. How does a philosopher see and pursue truth? What is a healthy pastoral way to approach and pursue truth? Is there such a thing as truth at all, let alone absolute truth, as so many Christians attest to? Our resident pastor and philosopher dive in and bring us into a really fun and healthy...

Duration:01:21:00

Faith After Doubt: An Interview with Brian McLaren

3/24/2021
In this episode, we chat with the one and only Brian McLaren. Brian has given his adult life to the Church in many ways and has created space for followers of Christ who feel like they exist on the margins of faith and Christianity. Brian has written many influential and important books, and in this episode we chat about his newest book: Faith After Doubt. This is a beautiful and brilliant book that will give you all sorts of space and permission to let your doubts come into the light and...

Duration:01:06:37

Feminist Pentecostalism: It's a Thing - Interview with Cheryl Bridges Johns

3/10/2021
In this episode, we speak with Dr. Cheryl Bridges Johns about what it means (and what it's like) to be a feminist Pentecostal, the interplay between reason and mystery, the relationship between virtue and spiritual formation, hermeneutics and ontology, the divine feminine, and even the gift of menopause. It's a rich conversation, and Cheryl's is an important voice within progressive Christianity. Check out some of Cheryl's work mentioned in the episode: Seven Transforming Gifts of...

Duration:01:16:39

Tov or Toxic Church? An Interview with Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer

2/24/2021
In this episode, we chat with Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer about their new book that's making waves called A Church Called Tov. This book is extremely important and is a prophetic call to the Church to form a goodness culture that resists abuses of power and promotes healing. We chat about recent scandals of abuse and coverup in the modern church, why we've created toxic church cultures and how we can move toward more beautiful cultures of goodness (Tov) in our churches. Also, we get...

Duration:01:06:45

An Ash Wednesday Gift - Mark Werner and Contemplative Spirituality

2/17/2021
In this bonus episode, we share an Ash Wednesday gift with you. Mark Werner is Randy's Spiritual Director, and is well acquainted with contemplative spirituality and is a bit of an expert in the ways of the Enneagram. In this episode, Mark shares about his "dark night of the soul" and having a faith crisis while in pastoral ministry, and the more ancient practices that brought him into a more spacious and centered faith journey. Also, we finish our time together by having Mark lead us in...

Duration:01:08:49

The B-I-B-L-E, Part II

2/10/2021
Ever had an issue with violence in the Bible? How about the many inconsistencies in the Scriptures? What about the rampant patriarchy, sexism, and misogyny? There are all sorts of issues and problems within Christianity's sacred text, but does that mean that we have to choose between believing that everything is prescriptive and inspired, or walking away from the Bible altogether? In this episode, we offer a different and more nuanced way of approaching and engaging with the Bible. The...

Duration:01:04:23

The B-I-B-L-E

1/28/2021
What is the Bible? How should we read it? What does it mean for a text to be authoritative? Do I have to believe the Bible is inerrant in order to be a Christian? In this episode, we discuss the beautiful messiness that is the Bible and talk about our relationships with this incredible and ancient text. The whiskey featured in this episode is Wathen's Single Barrel. If you're local to Milwaukee, check out our friends at Story Hill BKC. Support the show...

Duration:01:02:31

Holy Balls: Power, Masculinity, and the Making of White American Evangelicalism w/ Kristin Kobes Du Mez

1/14/2021
In this episode, we chat with Kristin Kobes Du Mez about her book that's been making waves and is brilliantly titled Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation. This book is probably our favorite of 2020 and is a must-read. During the course of this interview, we chat about everything from toxic masculinity and power hungry religious leaders to Amy Grant and Tiffany. Seriously. The whiskey featured in this episode is Weller Special Reserve bourbon...

Duration:01:27:45

Revelation, America, and Bob Dylan: Interview with Brian Zahnd

12/30/2020
In this episode, we chat with Brian Zahnd about his journey from a militaristic, warmongering brand of Christianity to a more peace-loving, Jesus-centered way. Along the way, we touch on everything from his take on the current state of the American church, the Christian's role in the state, the book of Revelation, his favorite philosophers, Christian ethics, the Bible, and Bob Dylan. The whiskey featured in this episode is a special store pick single barrel select edition of Buffalo Trace...

Duration:01:17:12

Evolving Creationism

12/16/2020
Did humans come from monkeys? How old is the earth? Should we interpret the Bible literally? Does any of it matter? In this episode, we discuss creationism and evolution, a recurring topic at Randy and Kyle's church Q&A's. The whiskey featured in this episode is Driftless Glen bourbon. If you're local to Milwaukee, check out our friends at Story Hill BKC. The books and resources for further reading that we recommend at the end of the episode are: The Greatest Show on EarthThe Evolution...

Duration:01:03:49

William Paul Young & Brad Jersak: Judgment, Wrath, Hell, and the God Who Is Love

12/2/2020
CONTENT NOTE: This episode contains references to trauma, abuse, suicide, and mental illness. Not recommended for children. On this episode, we're joined by William Paul Young (author of The Shack and Eve) and Brad Jersak (author of A More Christlike God and Her Gates Will Never Be Shut). We discuss their new co-authored novella, The Pastor: A Crisis, a raw story of a fundamentalist pastor undergoing the judgment of God. But our conversation is much more wide-ranging than just the book. We...

Duration:01:17:09

Cheap Whiskey and the Atonement

11/18/2020
How does Jesus's death work? In this episode, Randy, Kyle, and Elliot discuss atonement, the theological issue of how Jesus saves humans. It's a deep dive, and a bit nerdy, but we think it's important. The whiskey featured in this episode is Bulleit Rye. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/apastorandaphilosopher)

Duration:01:18:31

Prayer, Activism, and Racial Justice: Interview with Lisa Koons

11/3/2020
In this episode we talk with Lisa Koons, who is the national director of 24-7 Prayer USA. Our conversation covers the role of prayer in social justice, why more American Christians aren't focused on racial justice, how anger fits into the Christian response to injustice, and more. Lisa has a powerful, healing presence, and we encourage you to meditate on her words here. The beer featured in this episode is La Ruche (Blend #3) by Side Project Brewing. If you're local to Milwaukee, check out...

Duration:01:04:16

Evangelicalism. Ugh.

10/21/2020
In this episode we tackle the good, the bad, and the ugly of American evangelicalism. This conversation represents the culmination of something Kyle and Randy have been discussing for a while, and something that comes up a lot when they do live church Q&A's. Is "evangelicalism" salvageable? Listen to find out. The bourbon featured in this episode is Willett Pot Still Reserve. If you're local to Milwaukee, check out our friends at Story Hill BKC. Support the show...

Duration:01:14:38

How to Survive Thanksgiving Dinner: Interview with Dr. Jim Vining

10/7/2020
In this episode we talk with Jim Vining, a professor of communication and rhetoric, about the state of our current political and religious discourse in the United States. The bourbon featured in this episode is Maker's Mark Cask Strength. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/apastorandaphilosopher)

Duration:00:32:31

Proud to Be an American?

9/23/2020
In this episode Randy, Kyle, and Elliot tackle the thorny issues of patriotism, nationalism, and their relationship to the American Christian church. They don't pull any punches. The bourbon featured in this episode is Stagg Jr. by Buffalo Trace Distillery. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/apastorandaphilosopher)

Duration:01:14:08

Love and Truth: Interview with Jared Byas

9/9/2020
In this episode, we interview Jared Byas, author and co-host of the hit podcast The Bible for Normal People. We discuss his new book Love Matters More, available now wherever books are sold. It's a lively discussion about love and truth, and how those concepts are often abused by religious people under the guise of "telling the truth in love." The beer featured in this episode is from Central Waters Brewing Company. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/apastorandaphilosopher)

Duration:00:58:59

How To Disagree

8/27/2020
In this episode Randy and Kyle discuss disagreement, a current topic if there ever was one. Kyle did his PhD dissertation on the epistemology of disagreement, and this conversation explores what it is, some common pitfalls, how to do it better, and what it looks like for Christians in particular. The beer featured in this episode is King Sue by Toppling Goliath Brewing Company. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/apastorandaphilosopher)

Duration:01:10:13

Self-care, Mental Health, and COVID-19: Interview with Jenny Heckman

8/12/2020
In this episode, we interview Jenny Heckman (MS, LPC, NCC) about dealing with anxiety and staying mentally healthy during the pandemic. Jenny is a licensed professional counselor and a former pastor, and we think her insights here are important and timely. The beer featured in this episode is Strawberry Rhubarb Wild Fruit Ale by New Glarus Brewing Company. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/apastorandaphilosopher)

Duration:01:00:01

I Kissed Fundamentalism Goodbye

7/29/2020
In this episode, Randy, Kyle, and Elliot discuss American Christian fundamentalism and why they have, to borrow a phrase, kissed it goodbye. The whiskey featured in this episode is Woodford Reserve Straight Bourbon. AUDIO NOTE: There is some slight distortion and static at various places in this episode. We have since fixed these problems for all upcoming episodes. Socially distanced recording is hard. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/apastorandaphilosopher)

Duration:00:50:56