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A podcast about the intersection of technology, society, and internet culture – with a dash of philosophy and art for good measure. Hosts: Laura Hilliger & Doug Belshaw (We Are Open Co-op)


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A podcast about the intersection of technology, society, and internet culture – with a dash of philosophy and art for good measure. Hosts: Laura Hilliger & Doug Belshaw (We Are Open Co-op)




S06 Episode 02: Worker Wellbeing

Today we're pleased to speak with Emily Goligoski, the Head of Research at Charter. Emily is wicked smart and thinking about the future of work, what we really need from work, mentorship in the workplace and so much more. Links: Books: Some of the research we discuss: A couple of random related posts:


S06 Episode 01: Co-op Spirit

Today we talk to Micky Metts, a Cooperative Consultant and speaker, and Melissa Bingham, a privacy, security and ethical tech advocate. Links:


S05 Episode 06: Recap & Fedi

Laura and Doug reflect on the season and share loads of thoughts about the fediverse migration, content warnings and more in this recap episode. Support our work > Join the book club >


S05 Episode 05: Communities of Practice

Today we talk to Julie Keane and Mark Otter from – a platform and service designed to support and operationalize Communities of Practice. Books (check out our new Book Club: ) Anne Karenina by Leo Tolstoy Underworld by Don DeLillo Power Broker by Robert A. Caro The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz Links Keep Badges Weird Keep Badges Weird badges: Open Badges: W3C Verifiable Credentials - VC-EDU: Value Cycles: Bob Mortimer - Train Guy


S05 Episode 04: Feminist Pedagogy

Today we're talking with Anne Hilliger, a collaborator studying media education and the lead author of We Are Open Co-op's new course on Feminist Pedagogy. Anne's favourite books: Invisible Women Margaret Atwood - Oryx & Crake Feminism Is For Everybody, Especially Educators! Links


S05 Episode 03: Workshopping

Laura and Doug have a chat with Pedram Parasmand, a workshop designer, leadership coach, team builder and consultant. Ped's favourite books: - Fiction: '1984' by George Orwell - Non-fiction: 'The Art of Possibility' by Rosamund Stone Zander & Benjamin Zander


S05 Episode 02: Learning Sociocracy

Today we're talking to Aaron Hirtenstein, an organisational development advisor, collaborator, and cooperative badass. Aaron's books: 'The Count of Monte Cristo' by Alexandre Dumas 'A Suitable Boy' by Vikram Seth, An Equal Music Collins guide to Mushrooms Links Building OUT: Open Food Network:


S05 Episode 01: Blended Learning

Welcome to Season 5! The season kicks off with guest Elizabeth Godwin, the Global Lead, Digital Learning and Architecture at Greenpeace International Books - Pride & Prejudice (Jane Austen) - Fire Island (Hulu) - new adaptation Notes Honey & Mumford -


S05: Intro

Our introduction to Season 5 of the Tao of WAO!


S04 Episode 06: Reentering Events

Both seasoned speakers and facilitators, Laura & Doug chat about reentering in real life events. Get tips on preparing and running sessions, participating in them, networking and even event recovery in this episode. Links Support this podcast and other We Are Open projects and products at Badge Summit:


S04 Episode 05: Futurism

Today's guest is futurist, author and educator Bryan Alexander. Bryan is currently thinking loads about the intersection of education, technology and climate – so regular listeners will know why we're so excited to have him on. Bryan Alexander's sites: His books: Academia Next Coming Soon: Universities on Fire by Bryan Alexander! Bryan's favourite book(s) war & peace tolstoy: a thousand plateaus Other links: Age of Stupid Andreas Malm on how to blow up a pipeline


S04 Episode 04: Open Impact

Support our podcast! Our guest Heather Leson is open advocate and the Digital Innovation Lead at the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC) Heather's favourite book(s) Global Soul - Invisible Women - Currently Reading: Behave - Robert Sapolsky Opening Up Social Impact-Focused Organizations Apps and courses Komoot Applied Behavioral Design course 50 shades of open: What we talk about when we talk about open


S04 Episode 03: Self Hosting IT

Support us! In this episode Laura and Doug start chatting about Self Hosting IT and end up talking politics, perspectives, behaviour and more. - - - -…izations.pdf -


S04 Episode 02: Civic society

We talk about identity, civic society and how Twitter isn't a public square. Support our podcast! - - - The 4 charges: Internet is addictive, Shaping life through an algorithm, No democratic oversight, universal surveillance - Andy Clark "Mindware: An Introduction to the Philosophy of Cognitive Science" - McLuhan's 4 laws - how media/tech affect society: - - -


S04 Episode 01: Restorative justice

(Content warning) In this episode we speak with Kayleigh Walsh, an Outlandish colleague, about restorative justice, trust and more. This podcast season is currently unfunded. You can support this podcast and other We Are Open projects and products at Kayleigh's favourite book(s) - Richard Powers the overstory - House of Spirits Isabella Allende Restorative Justice - Circles SE: - Adrienne Maree Brown: - Building OUT:


S03 Episode 06 - Ragbag of random

WAO stuff Learn with WAO launch Audience Ikigai How to set Open Standards: Architectures of Participation Emergent Community building Newsletters Explaining ideas - Check your perspective - Decentralising the description of skills with OSMT - Recommended newsletters Dense Discovery: Supergranular: Memex Dan Hon Orbital Operations Just Two Things Anne Helen Peterson: Sentiers University of Winds Aaron Davis Other stuff Bonfire Zappa project - Boring crypto definitions - Sitting with ambiguity for innovation projects (or life in general!) - 8 tips for creating cultural change in your organization > Switching from Telegram to Signal -


S03 Episode 05 - Social Impact Games

Today we talk to our guest, Adam Procter, Interim Head of the new Department Art & Media Technology at University of Southampton about social impact games, game design and more. Support the Tao of WAO: Adam Procter: Adam's sites and tools: Social Impact games: Daybreak The homelessness game and others from Adam's students: PlayMob - take UN's SDGs and see if there's a way to influence design The list of books Adam mentions: - teaching to transgress (bell hooks) - deschooling society (Ivan Ilich) >"Most learning is not the result of instruction. It is rather the result of unhampered participation in a meaningful setting." — Ivan Illich - passion projects peers and play (Mitch Resnick) - Dune - Fight club (true I picked the weakest one :) - the monsters of education technology (Audrey Watters) - surveillance captalism (Shoshana Zuboff) - Nudge (Richard H. Thaler) - Catch 22 - The Catcher in the Rye - The design of everyday things (Don Norman) In a short commentary posted to her website in 2004, science fiction author Ursula K. Le Guin wrote that the concept of technology is “consistently misused to mean only the enormously complex and specialized technologies of the past few decades, supported by massive exploitation both of natural and human resources.” Rather, she argued, technology should be understood more expansively, as the way “society copes with physical reality… the active human interface with the material world.” Technology, as the sum of “what we can learn to do.” -


S03 Episode 04 - Misinformation

This episode we chat about misinformation and disinformation. We explore some useful frameworks about information and critical thinking too. Support us! Fake news. It’s complicated. > MisInfoCon > The archive shows the most popular posts: Countering Extremists on Social Media: Challenges for Strategic Communication and Content Moderation > Memes --> Birds aren't real > The Zappa project > Joe Rogan has responded to the protests against Spotify over his podcast >


S03 Episode 03: Verifiable Credentials

This episode explores verifiable credentials, blockchain identity management, the current badges landscape and some badges history too as we talk to our guest Kerri Lemoie, the Director, Digital Credentials Research & Innovation at Badgr. We LOVED recording this episode, so tell us if you liked listening to it! Support us! Kerri Lemoie: Badgr: Kerri's favourite book We make the road by walking:


S03 Episode 02: Networks of Networks

This episode explores the difference between groups and networks as we talk to our guest Alex Worrad Andrews from another cooperative in the CoTech network, Common Knowledge. This description makes no sense? Well, listen to the episode! Support us! Alex Worrad Andrews Common Knowledge: What is Alex's favourite book? Flawless Consulting - We Are Open Co-op's membership policies: What is a CoTech? The difference between Groups and Networks