Logos Podcast with Jarrad Hope

JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_network Logos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork RESOURCES: Jarrad Hope X - https://twitter.com/jarradhope_ Tom W. Bell - http://www.tomwbell.com/ READING: The Forecast for Anarchy, in Routledge Handbook of Anarchy 309-34 (Gary Chartier & Chad Van Schoelandt, eds.; Routledge: 2021), available at https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-Handbook-of-Anarchy-and-Anarchist-Thought/Chartier-Schoelandt/p/book/9780367645786 Distributed Self-Government in Protocol Communities: An Introduction and Index of Examples, 25:2 Independent Review 293 (Fall 2020), available at https://www.independent.org/publications/tir/article.asp?id=1529 Ulex: Open Source Law for Non-Territorial Governance, 1 J. of Special Jurisdictions 1 (2020), available at https://ssrn.com/abstract=3605807 on SSRN or from the source: https://journalofspecialjurisdictions.com/index.php/jsj/article/view/12/9. "Intellectual Privilege: Copyright, Common Law, and the Common Good" (Mercatus Center 2014): https://www.mercatus..org/research/books/intellectual-privilege. TIMESTAMPS: 00:17 Introduction and Background 02:25 Motivations and the Journey to Law and Special Jurisdictions 05:16 Ideals of Libertarianism and the Importance of Consent 07:47 Polycentric Law, Special Jurisdictions, and the Future of Governance 15:34 The Political Systems Project and the Infeasibility of Total Anonymity in Communities 25:03 Copyright Issues and Implementing Legal Systems in Special Jurisdictions 37:04 Legal Systems, Copyright, and the Future of Ulex 50:50 Nation States’ Shortcomings and the Forecast for Anarchy 01:02:04 Final Thoughts Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_network Logos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork RESOURCES: Jarrad Hope X - https://twitter.com/jarradhope_ Michel Bauwens X - https://twitter.com/mbauwens P2P Foundation - https://p2pfoundation.net/ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Introduction 00:26 Transformational Impact of Peer-to-Peer Foundation 01:41 Introduction and Personal Background 03:31 Societal Transformations and Civilizational Patterns 07:48 Historical Cycles and the Future of Civilization 14:03 Civilizational Shifts and Potential for a Mature Technosphere 21:27 Cycles of Change and the Role of Trust in Evolving Societies 29:48 The Dynamics of Network Societies and Digital Nomads 37:15 Crypto, Commons, and Power Dynamics in Societal Change 47:33 Ideological Motivations and the Preservation of Free Speech 57:19 Exploring Different Scenarios for Future Civilizations 01:08:52 Final Thoughts and Recommendations Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_network Logos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork RESOURCES: Jarrad Hope X - https://twitter.com/jarradhope_ Corey Petty X - https://twitter.com/Corpetty TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Introduction and Political Motivation Behind Logos 00:54 The Political Importance of Technology Post-9/11 02:44 Reaction to Surveillance and Economic Protest Through Bitcoin 04:27 The Role of Tech in Political Influence and Censorship 06:19 The Ethics and Neutrality of Technology 07:26 Upholding Civil Liberties and Creating Credibly Neutral Systems 09:12 The Difficulties of Implementing Privacy in Blockchain Technology 11:23 Technological Sovereignty and Political Neutrality in Systems 13:51 The Ethics of Building and Using Technology 19:46 The Impacts of Building with Certain Politics and Ethics 27:52 The Structure and Motives Behind Logos 50:58 Goodbye You can also watch the episode on YouTube. Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

00:00 Introductions[1][2] 02:40 Values in governance systems 17:33 Seasteading[3] 23:35 Zone for Employment and Economic Development (ZEDE)[4] 27:55 Physical territory requirement 34:45 Open source law 40:14 Charter Cities & Pronomos[5] 54:31 Reading list[6] 58:04 Criticism 01:02:53 Goodbye Patri Friedman: https://twitter.com/patrissimo https://patrifriedman.com/ Jarrad Hope: https://twitter.com/jarradhope_ https://www.seasteading.org/ https://www.lawg.org/the-zedes-law-in-honduras-sanctuary-for-exploitation-corruption-and-organized-crime/ https://www.pronomos.vc/ https://chartercitiesinstitute.org/reading/ Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_network Logos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork RESOURCES: Jarrad Hope X - https://twitter.com/jarradhope_ Ben Wizner X: https://twitter.com/benwizner ACLU’s Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project - https://www.aclu.org/issues/privacy-technology This Machine Kills Secrets: Julian Assange -https://perpus.univpancasila.ac.id/repository/EBUPT200367.pdf TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Introductions 02:45 Why human rights law? 04:52 ACLU’s Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project 09:28 Why do civil liberties matter? 11:35 Technology and civil liberties 21:24 Communicating the dangers of mass surveillance 25:47 US legal response to Edward Snowden revelation 40:15 Privacy and Terrorism 43:29 Jarrad Hope and Edward Snowden conversation reflections 45:42 Negative effects for US journalists because of Julian Assange case 50:11 This Machine Kills Secrets: Julian Assange 59:37 Making the argument for the right to privacy 01:01:19 Blockchain technology for finance or privacy 01:07:40 Are Western States turning into China? 01:10:29 Saving free society by fairly sharing resources 01:15:04 Making technology relatable 01:19:21 Central Bank Digital Currency 01:30:38 Are you optimistic about the future? 01:33:43 Thank you and goodbye Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_network Logos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork RESOURCES: Jonny Rhea X- https://twitter.com/JonnyRhea Joe Delong X- https://twitter.com/josephdelong Zak Cole X- https://twitter.com/0xzak TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Introductions 01:58 State of P2P 08:26 HIO blockchain infrastructure series 09:42 Peer to Peer incentives 27:40 What do you optimize for? 48:44 Net neutrality 50:12 Storage 54:02 Decentralising everything 58:59 Capitalism and resources 01:04:34 Final thoughts 01:06:38 Goodbye Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_network Logos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork RESOURCES: Jarrad Hope X - https://twitter.com/jarradhope_ Peter Ludlow: https://sites.google.com/site/peterjludlow/ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Introductions 02:40: - Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias 10:58 - Peter Ludlow early interest in crypto anarchy 16:49 - Satoshi's whitepaper 20:06 - DAO: decentralized autonomous organization 27:49 - Code is law 35:57 - Ramifications of possible Ethereum crisis 44:16 - Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias influence on Jarrad 47:03 - Peter Ludlow inspiration and collaboration 53:17 - Conflict resolution in virtual communities 58:12 - What makes you optimistic about the future of cyber states? 01:03:51 - Goodbye Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_network Logos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork Logos Press Engine: https://press.logos.co/ RESOURCES: LayerTwo Labs: https://layertwolabs.com/ Drivechain: https://www.drivechain.info/ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro 02:40 Setup to Interview…BTC is in a Time Capsule 04:58 Bitcoin is Attempting to be the L1 Hub for Business Capture 05:40 Where do the Incentives Pool? 08:54 Interview with Paul Sztorc Begins 11:08 What are Drivechains? 14:45 What is the Difference Between BitVM and Drivechains? 22:55 What’s the Driving Force Behind Drivechains? 35:56 How do we Permissionlessly Innovate with Drivechains? 55:30 Why not try Drivechains on Ethereum? 1:02:17 The Difference Between a Hard Fork and Soft Fork 1:06:15 What Types of Interesting Applications Need to Exist on Drivechains? 1:20:15 Post Interview Roundtable 1:13:35 Privacy Pools Plug Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_network Logos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork Logos Press Engine: https://press.logos.co/ RESOURCES: ZeroSync: https://zerosync.org/ BitVM white paper: https://bitvm.org/bitvm.pdf TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intros – Robin Linus of ZeroSync 5:45 Introducing the Paper: BitVM Compute Anything on Bitcoin – first steps to implementation 8:48 How do you get zero knowledge proof validations on Bitcoin and security assumptions 14:00 How do you differentiate from drive chains? 16:45 Difference in resource costs - comparing BIP-300 and snark based rollouts on Bitcoin 18:55 Matching instructions with Bitcoin for computation 23:15 Designing for Bitcoin stateless script 24:30 The mission of ZeroSync – Creating a proof system to sync Bitcoin's chain state instantly 29:27 Pushing zero knowledge ideals on Bitcoin – positive and negative responses 34:00 A hard fork of Bitcoins consensus rules? 35:42 Is Ethereum a shitcoin to you? Money needs to be designed on mathematics not trust 37:15 Data availability problems and solutions 40:50 Tradeoffs of any chain as its scales. Bitcoin is and always will be proof of work 44:35 ZK Coins 46:40 Why do L2s in Ethereum ecosystem need data availability? 50:40 Long term data persistence and solutions – sampling, bridge nodes, and more 52:45 ZeroSync developer toolkit and the stack chosen 58:05 What is your shitcoin of choice? Gisele Bündchen birthday cake 1:03:05 Is what you do actually difficult? 1:04:00 10 words or less Can you describe Bitcoin Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

Stella talks about her experience working on Julian Assange's legal team, her introduction to new technologies including Bitcoin, and the current surveillance state that has emerged since the rise of the open internet. JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos X (Formerly Twitter) Logos Discord Logos Press Engine RESOURCES: Stella Assange X (Formerly Twitter) Free Assange Emergency Toolkit Jarrad Hope X (Formerly Twitter) TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Introductions - Stella’s background, Apartheid, politics, the arts, Julian Assange legal team 6:35 Motivations of joining and studying law and politics – Idealism, justice, society 10:35 Growing up in the coming of age of the internet – Wikileaks, Iraq War Logs, new journalism 12:30 Jarrad’s inspirations – International Subversives Magazine, Cypherpunk Mailing lists, more 14:00 The US prosecution against Julian Assange – a political test, and failure of the justice system 18:20 Information asymmetry, Edward Snowden, and the movement towards open information 20:15 Wikileaks grew out of a culture in which the government should be open 25:50 Jarrad’s journey into civil libertarianism and building Logos 29:00 Carrying on the torch of Ethereum – building censorship resistant cyber states 31:20 Stella’s introduction to crypto by Julian – 2011 meeting with Google about Bitcoin 34:35 Bitcoin is the real Occupy Wall Street – How cryptography can make a real world impact 37:00 Preserving reality as the tools to manipulate it become more powerful 39:55 Social media censorship and Wikileaks adoption of BTC 42:00 Arab Spring, Wikileaks utility in Tunisia, Egypt and around the world 45:15 Crypto and the need for alternative system, communities, and modes of organising 50:30 A dangerous, post-state system and surveillance capitalism 54:50 Underlying causes for a shift in behavior and the “War on Terror” 59:00 What does Julian Assange case mean for journalism, activism, liberties, and human rights 1:12:40 An update on Julian Assange’s precarious legal situation 1:20:10 Free Speech, activism, and the course the world has taken since Julian's imprisonment. Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos Twitter Discord RESOURCES: Edward Snowden X Edward Snowden Substack Jarrad Hope X TIMESTAMPS: 00:00: Intro 01:00: A look back at the last 10 years of surveillance 07:50: Post September 11th Surveillance scheme 09:45: A new era of presumed mass surveillance and the loss of a free internet 14:10: Beyond omnipresent oppression (add subscription card) 15:30: Why should people care about privacy? Privacy is power 19:12: How did your politics evolve over the years? A meta game of politicians 25:27: Logos and why the politics of this project matter. Creating political neutrality and just governance. 30:30: Recognizing cyberspace as the fifth domain of conflict. 33:40: Reform or Revolution? 36:39: Why the decentralisation movement is so important. Order via protocol instead of law 41:48: Combining resistance, privacy, and technology 47:35: Logos – Infrastructure for Network States 53:05: Decentralizing access to the internet. Tornado Cash, VPN, TOR, and network blocks 57:30: Catalan Independence Referendum. Decentralized technology, mesh network, IPFS 1:02:20: How economies work and defining private property 1:06:40: Neutrality, Crypto, Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDC) 1:12:20: Encrypted content, private, secure messaging, and metadata 1:16:20: Government forced backdoors into encryption schemes 1:18:50: Ensuring the freedom of future generations Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

Corey, D, and Jesse chat with Ameen about the motivations behind Privacy Pools, historical references including Tornado Cash and Z Cash, as well as the mechanics and tradeoffs associated with the approach. Topics Covered in this episode: JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos State Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_network Logos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork Logos Press Engine: https://press.logos.co/ RESOURCES: Ameen X Privacy Pools Paper Privacy Pools Website Privacy Pools Github Fundraiser for Roman Storm and Alex Pertsev TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro 5:00 Introducing Amen 6:30 Why dive into privacy now? 8:25 Corey’s interpretation and background to the Privacy Pools paper 11:35 Ameen's motivations for Privacy Pools - history of Ethereum, Coinbase, zk snarks, Z Cash 11:50 Tornado Cash compliance tool and enhancing the power of compliance 17:30 Is privacy all or nothing? 20:30 Mechanics of the privacy pool setup. Deposits, association sets, analysis 22:15 Week long dispute of proofs and tradeoffs 24:00 Versions of Privacy Pools, shielded pools, z-cash comparison 27:00 Maintaining decentralization while working in different jurisdictions 28:46 The consequences and challenges of building on open systems vs base layer privacy 32:15 Additional coordination complexity and anonymity sets 34:35 “Goblins” or small scale thefts and edge case hacks 39:15 Who will manage the burden of infrastructure? Wallets and important role of relayers. 46:40 Are Association Set Providers a new set of core users? 51:00 Narratives are powerful for positive use cases to prevail 51:58 Who is responsible for judging the association sets of the association set providers? 56:00 Privacy Pools is just better than the status quo 56:37 Open source developers working in the space with OFAC. Tornado Cash 1:02:40 Describe Privacy Pools in ten words or less 1:03:20 Is what you do difficult? 1:05:20 Roundtable with Corey, D, and Jesse Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

Topics Covered in this episode: 1. History of Status features, challenges, and the road to building a Super App. 2. Challenges in existing infrastructure and Status' decision to build core infra 3. Technical details in delivering data ownership, decentralized messaging, and privacy 4. Decentralized Social and token permissioned communities 5. A look ahead at some exciting future plans JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos State Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_network Logos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork RESOURCES: Status Website - https://status.app/ Status X - https://twitter.com/ethstatus Status Github - https://github.com/status-im Status Forum - https://discuss.status.app/ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction 06:55 Edgard introduction 07:40 Progress from the previous versions: Redesign, features, infrastructure 10:35 History of Status and the ultimate vision of a free internet and truly decentralized Super App 15:05 Why Status has taken time, commitment to principles, and delivering a premium experience 20:39 Challenges of decentralized infrastructure and delivering on the value proposition 25:30 Status communities, Decentralizing communication, Wall Street Bets, Ownership 28:38 Technical details of data ownership, Waku nodes, and distribution 33:30 Waku messaging – relay nodes, light push nodes, and driving scale 37:35 A gossip network – driving decentralization and privacy 43:49 Spam management – network level (Waku) and user level prevention (Status) 47:52 Decentralized Social & token building blocks – gating, permissions, minting, airdrops 55:25 Community Dapp Plugin system and Dapp Chat plug in system 58:40 Making a seamless multichain world 1:08:35 Closing remarks from Edgard – 2 years in the making 1:11:34 Roundtable with Corey, D, and Jesse Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

This is a special episode with someone who has been involved in the Ethereum ecosystem for many years. Jordi, a white hat hacker, has been building common good infrastructure and protecting people on the internet during that time. Topics Covered in this episode: 1. Dapp Node, Giveth, Catalan Independence Movement, and useful technology 2. Technical implementations and tradeoffs in zero knowledge technology 3. Staying current in the rapidly evolving blockchain industry 4. What excites Jordi in the short term and long term JOIN THE COMMUNITY Network State Press - https://twitter.com/NetStatePress Hashing it Out Discord - https://discord.com/invite/eCwSWRyzam Logos Discord - https://discord.gg/logosnetwork RESOURCES: Jordi X - https://twitter.com/jbaylina TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Introduction 03:10: Dapp Node, Giveth, Catalan Independence Movement, and useful technology 06:14: Infrastructure decentralization connection to the internet 06:55: ISP’s and Spanish government censor voting in the Catalan Independence Movement 08:38: What does it mean for technology to work appropriately? 11:10: My mission 12:00: Why is zk technology so important right now 14:50: Zero knowledge is not only privacy. Also for validity and scalability 17:35: Tradeoffs between privacy and compression in zero knowledge proofs 19:20 Recursion, aggregation, and trees of proofs 21:00: What are the downfalls of current implementation of zkEVMs building on Ethereum 22:45: Is privacy a requirement to working? 23:40: Efficient aggregation of proofs in the context data storage systems 28:10: Speeding up msn operations and speed requirements 31:00 Keeping up with the pace of research 34:00 Building proficient teams 38:25: Speeding up the learning curve 40:00: Scaling Ethereum, liquid democracy, anonymous voting, data privacy and other goals 44:14: Scalability, usability and challenges facing utility 45:10: Prioritizing features, work, and releases 49:20: Risk assessment in the ecosystem 51:40: Define zk in 10 words or less 52:40: Is what you do hard? 54:40: Follow up roundtable with Corey, D, and Jesse Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

Corey sits down with Simona Pop: PG Steward ENS, Gov Advisor Element, Gov Advisor Optimism, for a Personals episode. Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

We discuss the challenges of building a privacy-centric portfolio management tool and the tradeoffs required compared to highly centralized alternatives. We dive deep into local-first software and take a look at how Lefteris has made this a pillar of Rotki. Topics Covered in this episode: JOIN THE COMMUNITY: TBP Twitter: https://twitter.com/thebtcpodcast Hashing it Out Discord: https://discord.gg/eCwSWRyzam RESOURCES: Rotki Website - https://rotki.com/ Lefteris X - https://twitter.com/LefterisJP Rotki X - https://twitter.com/rotkiapp Rotki Discord - https://discord.rotki.com/ Rotki Docs - https://rotki.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html Rotki Github - https://github.com/rotki Download Rotki App - https://rotki.com/download TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Intros 02:40 Motivations to build Rotki and Tax Code 05:00 - Managing the various DeFi opportunities and DeFi primitives 06:50 - Prioritizing new features and keeping up with the ecosystem 11:00 - Premium features of Rotki - Ethereum Staking, graphs, back ups and more 12:35 - Data structure and ecosystem growth 16:45 - Infrastructure costs and active management 19:45 - Securing Rotki while adding new features 21:44 - Supported ecosystems - more than EVM 28:50 - Nodes, Pruning, Transaction Hashes 32:00 - Local-first software and challenges in business use cases 35:15 - The roadmap and what’s next for Rotki 36:30 - 10 words or less - describe Rotki 37:00 - Is what you do hard? Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

This episode includes: Tornado Cash Founders Charged With Money Laundering And Sanctions Violations: https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/tornado-cash-founders-charged-money-laundering-and-sanctions-violations Social Platform Friend.tech Gains 100K Users in Days Even in Depths of a Bear Market: https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2023/08/21/friendtech-gains-100k-users-quickly-in-depths-of-a-bear-market/ RISC Zero's open source Zeth proves Ethereum blocks in minutes, instead of hours: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/risc-zeros-open-source-zeth-proves-ethereum-blocks-in-minutes-instead-of-hours-301907186.html JOIN THE COMMUNITY TBP Twitter: https://twitter.com/thebtcpodcast Hashing it Out Discord: https://discord.gg/eCwSWRyzam TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introductions 03:43 Tornado Cash Founders Charged With Money Laundering And Sanctions Violations 11:28 Social Platform Friend.tech Gains 100K Users in Days Even in Depths of a Bear Market 19:40 RISC Zero's open source Zeth proves Ethereum blocks in minutes, instead of hours 26:14 Goodbyes Disclaimer: The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in this podcast belong solely to the individual speakers and are not intended to represent any entities, organizations or companies with which the speakers may be affiliated. The content provided in this podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. The information discussed is based on the most recent data available at the time of recording. The content may become outdated or may not reflect accurately current affairs. The information discussed in this podcast is intended to be a summary and does not purport to be complete and no responsibility should be derived for the accuracy, reliability or completeness of it. It does not constitute legal, financial, tax or any other advice. The topics discussed may be complex, and the technical, legal and regulatory landscape can change rapidly. Listeners are strongly encouraged to conduct their own research, seek expert advice, and exercise caution when interpreting or acting upon the information discussed in this podcast. The creators, producers, and participants of this podcast will not be held liable for any errors, omissions, or inaccuracies in the content, or for any actions taken by listeners based on the content. Any references to specific entities, projects, products, technologies, services, or sources of information in this podcast do not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by the speakers or the podcast creators. Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

Shane walked us through his long history in the world of messaging and working with Web2 giants including Facebook bots, Ebay, and email clients, in his journey to make connecting with each other more human. Shane is an experienced start-up founder with a refreshing vision and outlook on how to bring Web3 to the next billion users. Topics Covered in this episode: Shane’s background in the messaging space and his journey into Web3 Technical goals of XMTP and how to drive network effects without the cold start problem Recent developments of XMTP including launching with Coinbase Wallet How XMTP Web3 messaging works JOIN THE COMMUNITY TBP Twitter: https://twitter.com/thebtcpodcast Hashing it Out Discord: https://discord.gg/eCwSWRyzam RESOURCES: Shane X - https://twitter.com/ShaneMac XMTP Website - https://xmtp.org/ XMTP X - https://twitter.com/xmtp_ XMTP Discord - https://discord.com/invite/xmtp Coinbase Announcement - https://xmtp.org/blog/coinbasewallet Converse App X - https://twitter.com/converseapp_ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Intros 01:45 - Facebook, Email, and connecting with stranger driving acquisition by Blackberry 03:10 - Creating form factor messaging experiences in crypto 06:30 - Identities, Messaging, and Privacy – A demo of Coinbase Wallet 09:00 - Selectively disclosing and the analogy to Apple’s “hide me email” 13:30 - UX, intuitive design and more user experience into Web3 16:30 - P2P messaging infrastructure of XMTP and owning your messages 18:50 - The lifecycle of a message in XMTP 23:20 - Breaking the shackles of Web2 walled gardens 25:00 - Web3 brings in new models outside of “Value is Data” 27:28 - A world where no one knows XMTP exists and any wallet address can communicate 29:30 - Marketplace and network dynamics – the network has a lesser take rate than the app 31:05 - What drives revenue and growth? 35:00 - Wallets are just managements of various types of identity and being chain agnostic 36:31 - Universal inbox, spam prevention, filtering - Converse App example 42:40 - Onboarding into web3 was painful but it’s getting easier 44:55 - Coinbase Wallet partnership and messaging as the heart of the universe 46:44 - Focus and roadmap ahead 47:50 - Is what you do hard? Drawing from past experiences Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

Todays' show focuses on Carnot Consensus. Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.

Dee talks decentralized messaging with the Waku Lead at Logos, Franck Royer. Corey and Jessie jump in for round two. You can also watch on YouTube. Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Hashing it Out dives into the mechanisms and hardware of the technology that aid in making sovereign communities.