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Conversations with the biggest names in horror fiction. A podcast for horror readers who want to know where their favourite stories came from . . . and what frightens the people who wrote them.

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Conversations with the biggest names in horror fiction. A podcast for horror readers who want to know where their favourite stories came from . . . and what frightens the people who wrote them.

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190 – Kaaron Warren & The Un-Cosy House

4/23/2024
We all love a good spooky house. And most of us enjoy a terrifying home-invasion ordeal (or at least, I know I do). What happens when you put them together? Kaaron Warren’s The Underhistory is the answer, but it’s nothing at all like what you’d expect. This new novel by the award-winning Australian writer is a story of memory, of rooms and architecture, of violence and misogyny, and of a very unusual old lady. We talk about all of that and more. It’s a great conversation, one in which we go hunting for the secrets of her book together. Enjoy! The Underhistory was published on April 11th by Viper Other books mentioned: Slights The Grief Hole Any Human Heart The Measure of Sorrow Support Talking Scared on Patreon Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:01:13:46

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189 – The Black Girl Survives in This One, with Saraciea J. Fennell, Desiree S. Evans, Monica Brashears & Eden Royce

4/16/2024
I bite off a lot this week, in a five-way conversation with editors and contributors to the ever-so-of-the-moment anthology The Black Girl Survives in This One. That’s a promise right there on the title page, but as you will find out, survival is not always the same thing as living happily ever after. Saraciea J. Fennell, Desiree S. Evans, Monica Brashears & Eden Royce talk to me about the vision (and necessity) of the project and where their stories came from? We discuss the role of urban and family legend, authentic dialogue, writing for younger readers and how horror’s treatment of Black writers and characters has changed. Enjoy! The Black Girl Survives in This One was published on April 2nd by Flatiron Books Other books mentioned: Beloved 60 Black Women in Horror Fiction Of One Blood Out There Screaming: An Anthology of New Black Horror The Vampire Huntress Legends Support Talking Scared on Patreon Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:01:17:05

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188 – Scarlett Thomas & Hot Gothic

4/9/2024
I’m in literary hero territory again … at least this time it’s sunny! My guest is Scarlett Thomas, the groundbreaking writer of PopCo, Oligarchy, The Seed Collectors and the (post)modern speculative classic, The End of Mr Y. She’s one of my favourite writers, who has never seen five or six separate genres she can’t mash together. This time around we are talking “Hot Gothic” in The Sleepwalkers, a darkly playful tale of a vacation–and a marriage–gone horribly wrong. We cover accidentally arriving at a structure, the many ways to build characters from scratch, the dark consequences of sex and desire taken too far – and we agree on how hotels are just inherently creepy. Great book. Great guest. Enjoy! The Sleepwalkers was published on April 9th by Simon and Schuster Other books mentioned: The End of Mr Y The Seed Collectors Oligarchy Open: An Autobiography The Woman in White The Moonstone Gone Girl The Talented Mr Ripley Hangsaman Support Talking Scared on Patreon Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:01:18:02

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187 – The Carrie 50th Anniversary Deep Dive, with Nat Cassidy & Ally Malinenko

4/5/2024
Carrie White turns 50 years old today! April 5th, 1974 – the day King’s debut came out, and the world of horror we know live in changed forever. To celebrate such an auspicious anniversary, there are only two people I could invite to this party. Step up Nat Cassidy and Ally Malinenko – writers who understand King and that bitter, brutal world between childhood and adulthood. We talk about empathy and monsters, about the horror of high school, the abject and the menstruation taboo and about how we are all living in Margaret White’s America now… Raise a glass to the prom queen of horror. She can light her own candles. Enjoy! Support Talking Scared on Patreon Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:01:46:52

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186 – Stephen Graham Jones & The Last Stand of the Final Girls

4/2/2024
Alas, we come to the end! Stephen Graham Jones’s The Angel of Indian Lake brings the most important horror trilogy of the century to its conclusion. For one last time we return to Proofrock, Idaho – to watch Jade Daniels do battle with monsters in the wood and the demons in her head. SGJ also comes back to Talking Scared to finish our adjacent trilogy of conversations about these books. We talk about slashers and final girls for sure, but as ever with Stephen, these are windows onto something more profound – and he gives us his insight into how horror, justice, violence and luck operate in fiction. This all sounds very profound. It is. But in the coolest way possible. The man is a rock star…. … but I STILL manage to freak him out with a ghost story. Enjoy – it’s been a ride! The Angel of Indian Lake was published on March 26thth by Saga Press and Titan Books Other books mentioned: Where the Red Fern GrowsMarvel Superheroes Secret Wars #10 In Cold BloodMorphology of the Folktale The Red Badge of Courage The Gulf War Did Not Take Place The Name of the Rose The Hollow Kind Piranesi A Tale of Two Cities The Art of the Ridiculous Sublime: On David Lynch’s ‘Lost Highway’ The Warm Hands of Ghosts The Bear and the Nightingale The Others of Edenwell Support Talking Scared on Patreon Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:01:33:44

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185 – Cynthia Pelayo & A Mermaid in the Windy City

3/26/2024
Chi-Town!! We’re heading to the midwestern metropolis this week, for a conversation with Cina Pelayo – all about murder, mystery, history and strange things in the water. Her new novel, Forgotten Sisters is a heady, dreamlike concoction of Chicago lore and much older horrors. It features a pair of very wyrd sisters and a house by a river that holds nothing good. As well as all of that, we talk about Cina’s personal journey with the paranormal, mermaid sightings, writing law enforcement, and wrestling with weird voices in fiction. Oh, and the abject horror of social media!! Enjoy! Forgotten Sisters was published on March 19th by Thomas & Mercer Other books mentioned: Children of Chicago The Shoemaker’s Magician Loteria Into the Forest and All the Way ThroughThe Reformatory Support Talking Scared on Patreon Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:01:07:50

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184 – Joshua Hull & It’s a Whole Hole Thing

3/19/2024
Never mind the floor is lava. This week the ground has teeth. Joshua Hull is our guest, to talk about his obsession with dangerous, weird holes. He wrote one into his hilarious, grisly horror movie, Glorious (on Shudder) and now he’s given a hole a whole personality in his debut novella, Mouth. It’s a grindhouse, b-movie celebrations, with larger than life characters, grisly death, and the most lovable monster of the year. We talk about writing endearing creature features, about forgotten American serial killers, about the difference between writing for books and writing screenplays and, yes, about HOLES! Enjoy! Mouth was published on March 15th by Tenebrous Press Other books mentioned: The Day of the Door (2024), by Laurel Hightower Frankenstein (1818), by Mary Shelley Support Talking Scared on Patreon Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:01:02:02

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183 – Gwendolyn Kiste & Working Through Your Ghosts

3/12/2024
Time to get liminal and haunted. Gwendolyn Kiste comes back to Talking Scared for another high-concept twist on the Gothic. In The Haunting of Velkwood, and entire street turns ghostly overnight. Yeah, I can’t explain that any more clearly, we’ll leave it to Gwendolyn. Despite this being a book centered on trauma and angst, we do a whole lot of laughing. Amongst the chuckles we also sneak in conversation about the many meanings of the word haunted, child-free horror fiction televisual references, and just what makes the American suburbs so damn creepy! Enjoy! The Haunting of Velkwood was published on March 5th by Saga Press Other books mentioned: Reluctant Immortals Suburbia Twilight: Photographs The Daughters of Block Island Support Talking Scared on Patreon Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:01:03:38

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182 – Tim Lebbon & Running Towards What Scares You

3/5/2024
Sometimes you meet someone who just gets you. Like Tim Lebbon. A man who writes riotously good adventure-horror novels, and also likes running outrageous distances up big hills. What a pleasure it was to speak to him. The main topic of conversation is his new novel eco-horror novel, Among the Living. A story of ancient buried history and ‘intelligent’ infection, it blends the paranoia of The Thing with the ragtag group heroism and intensity of Aliens. In short, it’s good! Tim and I talk about eco-horror, about the biological menaces facing mankind in the future, we discuss how writing action helps with writing character, and I tell him why this book freaked me out so much. Oh, and we do spend some time talking about running up big hills. But we try and keep it relevant to the horror and the writing… Give me a break, how often do I meet a soul-brother like this? Enjoy! Among the Living was published on February 6th by Titan Books Other books mentioned: Eden The Last Storm The Hunt Come Closer The Bang Bang Sisters Support Talking Scared on Patreon Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:01:15:35

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181 – Haunting Hill House, with Catriona Ward, Johnny Compton & Paul Tremblay

2/27/2024
Back from a too-short break, but ready to delve into the greatest haunted house of them all! Shirley Jackson’s Hill House. The place where the scary things walk alone. Thankfully, I am not alone. I’m joined by my own group of creepy ghost-hunters: Paul Tremblay (A Head Full of Ghosts, Cabin at the End of the World), Johnny Compton (The Spite House) and Catriona Ward (Last House on Needless Street, Looking Glass Sound). I can think of no better collective to explore the corridors of this book and house. We get INTO it. The crafted magic of that infamous opening paragraph, the long legacy of creepy houses in American fiction, the choice between the haunted void and hideous, mundane reality. Plus, a raft of film recommendations, and a few brief forays into our favourite real haunted places. This one was necessary. Hope you enjoy it. Other books mentioned: House of Leaves (2000), by Mark Z. Danielewski Carrie (1974), by Stephen King ‘Salem’s Lot (1975), by Stephen King The Shining (1977), by Stephen King The Spite House (2023), by Johnny Compton The Art of Fiction: Notes on Craft for Young Writers (1983), by John Gardner The Letters of Shirley Jackson (2021), edited by Laurence Jackson Hyman When Things Get Dark: Stories Inspired by Shirley Jackson (2021), ed. by Ellen Datlow “Oh, Whistle, and I’ll Come to You, My Lad” (1904), by M.R. James Support Talking Scared on Patreon Visit the Talking Scared site Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:01:33:50

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180 – Chuck Palahniuk & What Kind of Sex Do You Want?

1/30/2024
Yes I put sex in the title to make you download it. Did it work? It shouldn’t be necessary, ‘cos this week’s guest is an absolute literary icon. Chuck Palahniuk, author of Fight Club, Haunted, Lullaby, Choke, and last year’s Not Forever, But For Now – a writer who helped shape the nihilism and extremity of 90s and noughties fiction. The man who makes people faint with his short stories. He’s here, talking to us! In this conversation Chuck and I roam all over the blasted map of his fiction. We talk about transgression and provocation, about extremity in life and story, about bad reviews, toxic interviews and toxic masculinity. And yes, we talk about “Guts.” This was a privilege. I hope you are shocked and appalled. Enjoy! Other books mentioned: Fight Club Haunted Lullaby Diary Rant: The Oral Biography of Buster Casey Adjustment Day Cold Comfort FarmRosemary’s Baby Interview with the Vampire Geek Love Most Delicious Poison: From Spice to Vices – The Story of Nature’s Toxins Things Have Gotten Worse Since We Last Spoke Support Talking Scared on Patreon Visit the Talking Scared site Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:01:23:24

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179 – Ally Wilkes & The Ethics of Eating Your Friends

1/23/2024
Are you hungry? If so we have a chewy, salty, deeply flavoured feast for you this week. Ally Wilkes returns to Talking Scared to discuss the icebound horrors of her new novel, Where the Dead Wait. It’s a tale of Arctic exploration gone very wrong, complete with haunting, human suffering and the morbid fascination of cannibalism! Don’t pretend that hasn’t whet your appetite. Ally and I get into the raw details of consuming human meat, we talk about queerness in historical horror fiction, we discuss the nature of haunting and how a historical horror novel can have links to a sci-fi horror classic, and we talk reminisce about the time Ally nearly died on a Himalaya in an appalling coat. Jolly good fun wot wot! Enjoy! Other books mentioned: All the White Spaces (2022), by Ally Wilke The Shining (1977), by Stephen King What Cares the Sea (1960), by Kenneth Cooke The Secret Sharer (1910), by Joseph Conrad Frankenstein (1818), by Mary Shelley Ice Blink: The Tragic Fate of Sir John Franklin's Lost Polar Expedition (2000), by Scott Cookman Sundial (2022), by Catriona Ward Dead Silence (2022), by S.A. Barnes Ghost Station (2024), by S.A. Barnes Indianapolis: The True Story of the Greatest Naval Disaster in US History (2018), by Lynn Vincent and Sarah Vladic Support Talking Scared on Patreon Visit the Talking Scared site Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:01:15:46

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178 – Jenny Kiefer & A Solid Foothold in Horror

1/16/2024
The first new book coverage of 2024 – and it starts us off on suitably horrific footing. Jenny Kiefer’s debut novel, This Wretched Valley, has been getting a huge amount of early buzz in horror circles. It’s the story of four unlucky adventurers, who head into the Kentucky woods and meet all manner of nasty sh*t. It’s a tightly wound tale of misadventure, that takes at least some inspiration from the Dyatlov Pass mystery. And if you don’t know what that is… boy have you got a wiki hole to disappear down. Jenny and I talk about writing and selling a brutal debut, arthouse horror influences, the terror of climbing and research serendipity… plus, what she thinks happened to those poor Russian hikers over 60 years ago. Enjoy! Other books mentioned: The RuinsThe Laws of the SkiesDead Mountain: The Untold True Story of the Dyatlov Pass IncidentThe Marigold Support Talking Scared on Patreon Visit the Talking Scared site Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:01:01:37

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177 – John Langan & Fishing For Mythologies

1/9/2024
To kick off a new year of Talking Scared, I’ve gone and hooked us a big guest, with a whopper of a story. John Langan is the author of The Fisherman. It’s one of the great works of supernatural fiction written this century, but its story doesn’t end at its back-cover. The strange mythology of The Fisherman extends beyond, swimming further downstream, to pop its monstrous head above the surface in John’s wider universe of short stories and novellas. In this special episode, we talk at length about The Fisherman – about the classic books, real-world legends and cultural beliefs that inspired it, and about the process of building a whole new mythos. John is the poet-scholar of horror. This is the class you wish you’d taken in college. Enjoy! Other books mentioned: House of Windows (2009), by John Langan “Mother of Stone”, in The Wide Carnivorous Sky and Other Monstrous Geographies (2013), by John Langan “Bor Urus”, in Sefira and Other Betrayals (2019), by John Langan Our Share of Night (2023), by Mariana Enriquez The Croning (2012), by Laird Barron The Beautiful Thing That Awaits Us All (2013), by Laird Barron Pet Sematary (1983), by Stephen King “The Monkey’s Paw” (1902), by W. W. Jacobs Absolom, Absolom (1951), by William Faulkner “The Call of Cthulhu” (1928), by H.P. Lovecraft The Marriage of Cadmus and Harmony (1988), by Roberto Calasso “Development” (1889), by Robert Browning Ironweed (1983), by William Kennedy Come Closer (2003), by Sara Gran Motherless Child (2012), by Glen Hirshberg Screams From the Dark: 29 Tales of Monsters and the Monstrous (2022), edited by Ellen Datlow (contains “Glen Hirshberg’s “Devil” and John Langan’s “Bludzuger”) Furnace (2016), by Livia Llewelyn Join the Laird Barron Readalong Support Talking Scared on Patreon Visit the Talking Scared site Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:01:46:19

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176 – The Best Horror Novels of 2023

12/30/2023
Another year done. We squeaked through without another plague or a nuclear apocalypse (don’t tempt fate Neil!!) and along the way, oh the stories we read! The only thing left to do after mopping away the chalk pentagrams, is to run you through my very favourite books of the year. The so-called Best Horror Novels of 2023, as chosen by me. Ten of them to be precise, cos humans are obsessed with round numbers. Mwaha, in fact I talk about thirteen!! Thanks again for listening and supporting the show. You give my addled rants a semblance of purpose, and it’s appreciated. Onward into 2024 and its multitude of horrors!!! Enjoy. Support Talking Scared on Patreon Visit the Talking Scared site Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:00:55:51

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175 – The Ghost Story Deep Dive, with Alan Baxter, Lauren Bolger & John Langan

12/24/2023
Dickens said that Christmas Eve was a time for ghost stories, and who am I to argue? It is my show though, so I get to pick the ghost story – and I picked Peter Straub’s classic novel of the name. A tale of old men with horror in their youths, seductive evil and a town besieged by winter and… worse things. It’s a slippery beast though, this novel. So to really help pin it down, I needed help. I called and help came, in the form of Alan Baxter (author of Sallow Bend, The Gulp and many more), Lauren Bolger (Kill Radio) and John Langan, whose novel, The Fisherman, continues what I think is Straub’s American gothic legacy. We talk about the book in granular detail – it’s monsters, it’s politics, it’s storytelling and, of course, it’s ghosts. It’s about as jolly a time as you can have talking about ancient evil visiting small towns. But enough about Santa. Light the fire, pour a drink, enjoy! You’ve earned it. Support Talking Scared on Patreon Visit the Talking Scared site Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:01:42:18

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174 – State of the Horror Nation 2023, with Emily Hughes, Victor Lavalle & C.J. Leede

12/19/2023
And so we come to the end of another year in horror. Time to look back at the best that 2023 has had to offer, as determined by three of the best in the business. My trusted horror chancellor, Emily Hughes joins me ­– alongside C.J. Leede, the author of this year’s gloriously transgressive Maeve Fly, and the maestro of the macabre himself, Victor Lavalle. Together we cover the year’s freshest nightmares in the macro and the micro, looking at wider trends and picking our own favourite horror fiction from this year’s epic crop. This is a blast. We laugh, we yell, and we declare that the nation is strong, and good, and frightening. Enjoy! Books Picked: Our Share of Night Boys Weekend Black Sheep The Reformatory Out There Screaming: An Anthology of New Black Horror Fever House Never Whistle at Night: An Indigenous Dark Fiction Anthology Red Rabbit Whalefall Books Anticipated: Horror For WeeniesEverything You Need to Know About the Films You’re Too Scared to WatchAmerican Rapture Ghost RootsA Mask of Flies The Z Word Your Shadow Half Remains First Light Bury Your Gays I Was a Teenage Slasher The House of Last Resort The Book of Love King Nyx Moon of the Turning Leaves In the Valley of the Headless Men Island Witch The Haunting of Velkwood The Redemption of Morgan Bright Horror Movie You Like It Darker Support Talking Scared on Patreon Visit the Talking Scared site Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:02:00:17

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173 – Michelle Paver & Long Nights of the Body & Soul

12/12/2023
We’re going up in the world this week – longitudinally and latitudinally, with the GOAT of endurance, adventure Gothic, Michelle Paver. Michelle joins me for a big conversation about her novels Dark Matter and Thin Air – two of the most effective ghost stories of the 21st century. One takes us to the Arctic, the other to a Himalayan peak, both places littered with the dead… who may still be around. We talk about how ghost stories work, their tradition and what perhaps differentiates them from horror. We consider the challenge of writing heroes with imperial perspectives, and Michelle relates her own, eerie, dangerous experiences out in the frozen wilds. This is perfect winter listening, even if we did record it in July. Enjoy! Books mentioned: Wolf Brother (2004), by Michelle Paver The Abominable (2013), by Dan Simmons 30 Days of Night (2002), by Steve Niles and Ben Templesmith The Others of Edenwell (2023), by Verity Holloway “The Kit Bag” (1908), by Algernon Blackwood Cold Earth (2009), by Sarah Moss Number 90 and Other Ghost Stories (2000 rpt) B.M. Croker A Beleaguered City (1871), by Margaret Oliphant The Long Tale (Tail) of Dogs in Fiction (Esquire) Support Talking Scared on Patreon Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:01:29:23

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172 – Gemma Amor & The Haunted Penis-Replacement Structure

12/5/2023
Last time Gemma Amor came on the show we had a good ol’ chinwag about our haunted brains. This time around we get to some other ghosts, in her new novel, The Folly. It’s a sharp slice of coastal Gothic; Cornwall’s answer to The Shining if you will. The story follows Morgan and her aging father to the weird structure of the tital, where they find hauntings of many stripes, some uncannily familiar. It wouldn’t be a Gemma Amor episode if things didn’t get personal – and we talk about anxieties of identity, father/daughter dynamics and the trauma of the Covid years. But it doesn’t get too real or heavy, cos we the nature of cursed buildings and twists on possession to deal with. Enjoy our rural Britishness. I think we hide our inner yokel well. The Folly was published by Polis Books on in December 2023 (US) and January 2024 (UK) Books mentioned: Full Immersion Six Rooms Rebecca My Cousin Rachel “The Birds,” Annihilation The Lamplighters The Dark Between the Trees Support Talking Scared on Patreon Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:01:18:41

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171 – C.S. Humble & Come For the Horror, Stay for the Horses

11/28/2023
We’ve had Cowboys versus Aliens but have you ever considered a threeway fight between gunslingers, vampires and weird cosmic cultists to an Elder God? If not why not? What do you even think about when you are washing the dishes? But fear not, C.S. Humble has you covered. His weird western trilogy, That Light Sublime is packed with all of the above and more. In The Massacre at Yellow Hill and A Red Winter in the West Seth introduces a cast of lovable rogues and the stakes of their battle against the worst that this and other worlds can offer. Now, in the concluding volume, The Light of Black Star, he brings it all home, with honour, humour and shattering heartbreak. We talk about broadening the scope of the western, how That Light Sublime links with Seth’s Black Wells series, and he explains his fundamental disagreement with the tenets of cosmic horror. We cover what Mister Rogers has to oteach us about horror writing…and how to write stories that, in Seth’s words… “attain the high romance that the human heart is reaching for.” He’s a poet and a raconteur. I’m also present. Enjoy! The Massacre at Yellow Hill, A Red Winter in the West and The Light of Black Star were all published in 2023 by Cemetery Dance. Books mentioned: East of EdenLonesome Dove Merciless Waters Midas Lone Women Red Rabbit The Legend of Charlie Fish The Demon of Devil’s Canyon The Thicket Cold in July The Beautiful Thing That Awaits Us All Moby Dick Fevre Dream Support Talking Scared on Patreon Come talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

Duration:01:21:20