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Courageous Conversations is a series exploring the art of showing up authentically in our everyday spaces. Created by Jillian Reilly and Jenn Warren, the podcast challenges us to live bravely and with compassion during this critical time in history, in an effort to become more effective changemakers.




31 July 2017: On Beauty

In our first episode of Season 2, Jillian interviews Tamburai Chirume, an up and coming fashion designer and entrepreneur in Cape Town - and half of the mother and daughter label ONEOFEACH - about creating beauty and the more personal side of troublemaking. From Zimbabwe to South Africa to the British Museum, growing up in a society fraught with racism and inequality has had a profound effect on Tamburai. Join us as she talks about juggling her feelings of insider-outsider, anxiety and...

Duration: 00:30:16

4 December 2016: Farming for Radical Empathy

In our final episode for 2016, Jillian and Jenn talk with Rehann Calitz and Howard Drakes of Farm This City, about radical empathy and how with a single seed, a farmer and a sprinkle of empathy, we can re-imagine our cities as living ecosystems that sustain life and "farm a solution" for us all. Learn more about Farm This City:

Duration: 00:25:41

8 November 2016: The Good Wife

In episode four, Jillian Reilly interviews Melanie Burke, a powerhouse in the Cape Town development community who while has always been a troublemaker in the professional sense, decided to dig a little deeper in the courageous conversations that she was having at home. Here, Melanie talks about her journey to becoming a "courageous wife" and finding the balance between her work and personal life.

Duration: 00:25:48

4 November 2016: Braveheart

In episode three, Jillian interviews Kayin Scholtz from the South African Education Project (SAEP) about the concepts of courage, bravery and masculinity. Upon first meeting one might consider Kayin an unconventional troublemaker, but through this conversation you'll get a glimpse of how he approaches conversations in his daily life with reflection and deep listening.

Duration: 00:26:49

26 October 2016: Showing Up

In episode two, a continuation of Jillian and Jenn's first conversation, they discuss what it means to "show up" in our professional and personal relationships - and how to overcome the fears and insecurities that may get in the way of our efforts to live courageously.

Duration: 00:30:24