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The #complexity podcast. Stories, interviews & casual conversations about the systems that shape our world and our work.

The #complexity podcast. Stories, interviews & casual conversations about the systems that shape our world and our work.
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The #complexity podcast. Stories, interviews & casual conversations about the systems that shape our world and our work.




070 - Living from the Inside Out

In this episode, Haley interviews journalist, life coach, and host of the Happy Melly podcast, Sam Mednick. Sam talks about the importance of emotional intelligence and shares her philosophy on living a more happy and fulfilled life. She also shares a few stories from South Sudan where she is currently working and writing.

Duration: 00:19:45

069 - Designing Meaningful Work in Complex Times

In this episode, Haley interviews complexity thinker and founder of NOBL Collective, Bud Caddell. Bud explains how NOBL designs human-driven systems which enable teams to become more empowered, inspired, and engaged. He also describes how his understanding and application of complex system science has influenced his mission to expand access to meaningful work.“I fundamentally believe that meaningful work is a human right.” - Bud Caddell

Duration: 00:33:08

068 - Managing for Happiness with Complex System Science

In this episode, Angie interviews author, speaker, and entrepreneur, Jurgen Appelo. Jurgen has been named the “Top 100 Leadership Speaker & Top 50 Management Expert” by and he has become a key influencer in the workplace happiness movement. During his interview, Jurgen discusses how practicing complexity thinking has influenced his career and management style. He also shares stories and advice on how to “manage the system not the people” with different tools, games, and practices.

Duration: 00:28:39

067 - The Path to Economic Growth According to Complexity Science

In this episode, Angie interview's complexity scientist, professor, and founding president of the New England Complex Systems Institute (NECSI), Yaneer Bar-Yam. Professor Bar-Yam shares the details of new research out of NECSI entitled, Preliminary Steps Toward a Universal Economic Dynamics for Monetary and Fiscal Policy. His research, which was conducted with Jean Langlois-Meurinne, Mari Kawakatsu, and Rodolfo Garcia, calls for wealth redistribution, not tax cuts, to improve the US...

Duration: 00:29:00

066 - Conference on Complex Systems 2017

In this episode, Haley interviews Dr. Carlos Gershenson who is a research professor, Editor-in-Chief of Complexity Digest, and a Co-Chair member of the Conference on Complex Systems. Dr. Gershenson discusses this year's conference and how it is relevant to events happening in the world today. He also shares details about next year's Conference on Complex Systems.

Duration: 00:12:29

065 - Hardwiring Happiness with Dr. Rick Hanson

How can we leverage self-directed neuroplasticity, so we can grow and change as much as possible? In this episode, Angie interviews best-selling author, psychologist, and human potential expert Dr. Rick Hanson, who explains how understanding evolutionary neuropsychology and using daily meditative practice can help us feel safe, satisfied and connected. He describes the difference between engaging life with a responsive mindset, as opposed to a reactive mindset. Dr. Hanson says we are more...

Duration: 00:35:16

064 - Our Evolving & Complex Human Brain with Dr. Rick Hanson

In this episode, Angie interviews psychologist and New York Times best-selling author, Dr. Rick Hanson. Dr. Hanson eloquently describes how the human brain has evolved as a complex system and he shares why it is so important “to really appreciate the implications of having a stone age brain in the 21st century”. This is part one of his interview. Stay tuned for part two of Angie’s interview with Dr. Hanson!

Duration: 00:25:50

064 - Episode Preview with Dr. Rick Hanson

In this episode preview, we share a clip from our interview with psychologist and author, Dr. Rick Hanson. We asked Dr. Hanson how he became interested in complex systems. For more information visit and stay tuned for his full length, two-part interview with the HumanCurrent.

Duration: 00:03:55

063 - A Philosophical Look at the Mind, with Neurologist Dr. Robert Burton

In this episode, Haley talks with neurologist and author, Dr. Robert Burton about the most complexly organized form of matter in the known universe, the human brain. More specifically, Dr. Burton talks about the mind-brain paradox and explains some key distinctions between conscious and unconscious thought. We also talk about his books, A Skeptic’s Guide to the Mind and On Being Certain: Believing You’re Right Even When You’re Not.

Duration: 00:44:52

062 - Mysteries of the Extended Mind with Dr. Rupert Sheldrake

In this episode, we share our last interview from the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) conference with Dr. Rupert Sheldrake. Dr. Sheldrake is an English author and researcher in the field of parapsychology. He talks with Haley about discovering, after years of in the field research, that paranormal activity is actually a very normal occurrence because many people claim to experience it throughout their lives. Dr. Sheldrake states in his interview that “our minds are more extensive than...

Duration: 00:09:59

061 - Finding Purpose Through Connection

In this episode, Angie and Haley share more interviews from the Institute of Noetic Science (IONS) Conference, The Science of What Connects Us. They talk with one of their past guests, Laurie Marshall about how noetic science is changing the world. Laurie also shares news about her recently published book called The Flood of Kindness. Angie and Haley also share their interview with Andrea Dennis, from Greenheart International, and Jon Darrall-Rew, from the Global Purpose Movement, about ...

Duration: 00:15:33

060 - Exploring the Science of What Connects Us

In this episode of the HumanCurrent, Angie and Haley talk about their experience at IONS (The Institute of Noetic Sciences) 17th International Conference The Science of What Connects Us. They also share their interview with Dr. Cassandra Vieten, the President of IONS, who explains some of the mind-expanding projects happening at IONS at the intersection of technology, innovation, and consciousness.

Duration: 00:34:23

059 - A Closer Look at the Female Brain

In this episode, Angie interviews best-selling author, neuropsychiatrist, and founder of the Women’s and Teen Girls’ Mood and Hormone clinic, Dr. Louann Brizendine. Dr. Brizendine discusses the complexity of The Female Brain, which is the title of one of her best-selling books. She also shares how learning more about our innate biology is important for us to thrive both individually and collectively in modern-day society.

Duration: 00:33:56

058 - Unlearn Toxic Habits & Retrain Your Brain

How much does our environment and our biology affect our behavior? How can understanding our biofeedback empower us to live well? In this episode, Haley interviews Eileen McDonald who is an inventor, speaker, and a cofounder and Chief Coaching Officer of the Axeos Performance Institute. Eileen discusses how stress and poor breathing habits can influence our behavior and overall wellbeing. She also shares how self-awareness, self-care, and self-compassion can help us unlearn harmful habits,...

Duration: 00:35:02

057 - A Curious Conversation on the Brain & Body

In this episode, Angie informally interviews her fellow co-host, Haley Campbell-Gross, to discuss what she has learned from recent interviews, as well as what she has discovered while researching the complexity of the human brain. Angie and Haley also share their excitement about starting a new series on the complexity of the brain and body, which leads them into a discussion about all the factors, like biology, history, and culture, which influence our lives as humans.

Duration: 00:26:50

056 - The Science of How Nature Affects Our Brain

Does living in cities rather than rural settings differentially activate our amygdala? In this episode, Haley interviews science journalist, author, and podcast host, Florence Williams, to discuss how our environment influences our health and wellbeing. She shares research and stories from her book, The Nature Fix; Why Nature Makes Us Happier, Healthier, and More Creative, which has been described as “an intrepid investigation into nature’s restorative benefits by a prize-winning author”.

Duration: 00:16:19

055 - Unintended Consequences with Complexity Scientist Yaneer Bar-Yam

Haley interviews professor, Complexity Scientist, and founding president of the New England Complex Systems Institute (NECSI), Yaneer Bar-Yam, to discuss the nature of global complex problems. Yaneer shares how quickly unintended consequences can ripple throughout our global systems. More specifically, he discusses research he conducted with NECSI on the causes of increasing global food prices. Yaneer states, “We need to understand global consequences in order to be able to act and react...

Duration: 00:39:31

055 - Episode Preview with Yaneer Bar-Yam

In this episode preview, we share a clip from our interview with founder of the New England Complex Systems Institute, Yaneer Bar-Yam. Professor Bar-Yam discusses some of his world-renowned research with NECSI on the global food crisis.

Duration: 00:05:09

054 - Reversing Complex Problems for Global Security

Why are all of our biggest global problems caused by reductionist thinking habits? How does the environment and sustainability influence global security? In this episode, Angie interviews global security thought leader, keynote speaker, and founder and CEO of BlindSpot Think Tank, James Greyson. James discusses his unique approach to solving intractable problems, which he calls “blindspotting”. He also shares the details of his research paper for NATO titled Seven Policy Switches for...

Duration: 00:41:34

053 - Becoming Environmentally Conscience in A Complex World

In the spirit of Earth Day approaching, Angie and Haley discuss the importance of being environmentally consciousness. They also share clips from past guests, Laurie Marshall, Chris Ling, and James Greyson, who responded to a quote by environmental activist, Annie Leonard. Her quote states: “The assumptions that ‘pollution is the price of progress’ or that ‘we must choose between jobs and the environment’ have long limited our creative thinking about innovative solutions that can be good...

Duration: 00:27:47

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