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Mike Monteiro and Katie Gillum of Mule Design talk mostly about design and how to do it, with a few tangents along the way.






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32: Ringing in a New Year of Mistakes

Mike Monteiro and Katie Gillum spend their last episode of 2011 talking through why Louis C.K.'s comedy experiment works so well, high level and low level mistakes, and saying good bye.

Let's Make Mistakes 32: Ringing in a New Year of Mistakes

Mike Monteiro and Katie Gillum spend their last episode of 2011 talking through why Louis C.K.'s comedy experiment works so well, high level and low level mistakes, and saying good bye.

Let's Make Mistakes 31: The Family Business

This week Mike and Katie discuss mixing design work and family in a discussion that ends up being about whether you can ever go home again. They also talk about asking leading research questions, using fake metrics, and a little more about bad names for blankets.

Let's Make Mistakes 30: Holiday Mistakes: A Seasonal Special

Mike and Katie celebrate the season of sharing and crying by getting visitors at the annual Mule Holiday party to share their biggest holiday mistakes. And because mistakes have no season, they get stories about Christmas Mistakes, Passover Mistakes, Festivus, Super Bowl, and many other mistakes.

Let's Make Mistakes 29: Of Shame and Quitting

Mike and Katie discuss having (no) shame about your search history, where shame comes from, and quitting your job.

Let's Make Mistakes 28: Taking Responsibility


Let's Make Mistakes 27: Giving Thanks

This week's Let's Make Mistakes is all about thanks. Mike and Katie talk about Thanksgiving as an immigrant, as an eater, as a member of a huge family. They discuss charging different rates for different jobs and when free work isn't spec work.

Let's Make Mistakes 26: The Diabetes of Design

This week is story time with Greg Storey on Let's Make Mistakes. Mike, Katie, and Greg talk about requests for spec work, industrial interior design, and the artistry of grocery bagging.

Let's Make Mistakes 25: Bitching, Pitching, and "Innovation"

Mike and Katie talk about olfactory hallucinations, discuss whether there is any real innovation, and make plans for the Let's Make Mistakes field trips while fielding a variety of good questions from the loyal listeners of the show.

Let's Make Mistakes 24: Generation X versus the Millennials

Description: Solve all the world's problems? Mike and Katie welcome tech journalist, former write-in San Francisco mayoral candidate, and southern gentleman: Mat Honan to talk about his ideas on how the youngish generations deal with adversity, journalistic "impartiality," and Mike's character. Corporate conferences, pivoting for personal wealth, and fat axl all make an appearance.

Let's Make Mistakes 23: S, Se Puede Disear

In this episode of Let's Make Mistakes, the discussions centers on jobs, cartoons, and personal style. Mike Monteiro doesn't like when people ask for free designer work; Katie Gillum is still fine talking to him when he's angry, so they discuss if and when people might do spec work for the President's new jobs program. A surprise "guest" stops to chat for a little while.

Let's Make Mistakes 22: The Saddest Place on Earth

Mike and Katie field their first "call-in" question and talk about not killing the design feedback messenger. Also they talk about the worst night of Mike's life. They have a lot of big ideas, and they invite you, yes you, to submit a new type of question to Let's Make Mistakes and sign up for their 3 on 3 league.

Let's Make Mistakes 21: Meth, Sexism, Racism, Meth, Design

Mike and Katie discuss design portfolio and how you represent your work, and they clarify misconceptions about "ethics" and design. They also put to rest the issues they have with meth and vegans, Mad Men and censorship, and plane etiquette.

Let's Make Mistakes 20: The Politics of Disagreement: From A to Zooey

It turns out roving bands of angry people handle neighborhood matters very differently in Philadelphia and (everywhere else) San Francisco. Mike and Katie talk about disagreeing with clients on small issues, style, ethics, politics and when and how you do that.

Let's Make Mistakes 19: The Dog Has A Bit of A Reputation in This Town: Par

Today's episode of Let's Make Mistakes is a study in exciting data followed by tech and valley culture with some contract killings and pet talk mixed in. Mike and Katie discuss lying for an employer and then continue their discussion with Chris Sacca, who really throws down on cats in this episode.

Let's Make Mistakes 18: What? No Pheasant!?: Part 1 of Interview with Chris

Mike and Katie talk with Chris Sacca about being hugged by average tweeters who recognize the man on the street, hugging Ann Curry, and hugging the hustler inside you.

Let's Make Mistakes 17: What I Did On Summer Vacation

Mike Monteiro and Katie Gillum return from their hiatus talking about what taking "time off" in design and other creative fields actually means. They discuss how you really get final approval for design and film work. Mike refuses to stop talking about dwarves; Katie, about the current effects of European colonial history.

Let's Make Mistakes 16: In the Mood for Client Services

Mike Monteiro is in a bad mood as he and Katie Gillum are joined by Erika Hall to discuss client services and the discussion about whether we have come to the "end of client services." There is ego to be discussed; ego, what gets delivered to clients, selecting a backend.

Let's Make Mistakes 15: Engineered Mistakes

Mike and Katie welcome Sir Rod Begbie to Let's Make Mistakes. They discuss the Nancy Drew fanfic Mike has been writing, moving from one company to another, and designer-engineer relationships.

Let's Make Mistakes 14: Not Your Friend

Mike and Katie talk about research for small scale projects and not being a jerk on the internet.
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