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Episode 24. A Hillbilly & A Black Republican Walk Into A Bar: Race, & Talking Across the Aisle

What do a "hillbilly," a black Republican, and a Bangladeshi-American centrist have in common? They all spoke to us for this PACKED season finale! We interview two POC Republicans and one liberal Appalachian about how to talk to Republicans: what's really motivating them, and how does race affect their politics? Are POC Republicans able to help us learn how to reach across the aisle? Are they able to bring added empathy to the question of how to address Republican racial issues? The...

Duration: 01:46:02

Free Speech For Me, You, & White Supremacists Too

Free speech is for me, you, and Nazis too, and with good reason. In this week's episode, we tackle the liberal backlash against free speech in the wake of Charlottesville and James Damore (the Google Memo guy). We take down the NYT article suggesting that the ACLU needs to rethink it's approach and discuss how failing to protect the free speech rights of the worst among us establishes bad precedent for us all. We also ask how and whether we should modify race language to better communicate...

Duration: 01:00:05

So . . . Now Seems Like a Good Time to Talk About Confederate

The Game of Throne producers are coming out with a new show called Confederate, about what would have happened if the south had won the Civil War. In the context of the current political climate, in which violence has erupted between aggressive white nationalists and peaceful counter protestors over a statue of Robert E. Lee, is this show appropriate? Is Black Twitter right to try to shut the project down? #noconfederate. Should we be happy that two talented show runners are turning their...

Duration: 01:05:16

Episode 21. The Truth About Healthcare: How We Got It & What To Do If It Goes Away

Joe & Brie catch up on life developments, including Joe's impending switch to a long distance relationship, before going into a deep dive on healthcare. Specifically, they unpack the unique history of healthcare in the United States to better understand how we ended up with our broken employer-based model, and discuss the role of race in shaping our current system. The pair welcome healthcare expert Rachael Wolfgang to outline coping mechanisms to employ if the ACA is repealed. Finally,...

Duration: 01:10:47

Episode 20. How to Define a Crime?: Hate Crimes, Free Speech, & the Bachelor in Paradise

How do you define a hate crime in the absence of an explicit racial epithet? And why do hate crime laws matter? Joe and Brie discuss the murder of Nabra Hassanen, a teenage Muslim girl from Virginia, and unpack the psychic and cultural benefits of laws that specifically recognize the humanity of those whose lives matter less in the eyes of the criminal justice system and the public more broadly. Next, (at 34:35), they use the recent sexual assault allegations on Bachelorette spinoff...

Duration: 01:05:44


When America calls, SWOTI answers. It's clear that even after last week's episode, there's still quite a bit of confusion about what cultural appropriation is and isn't, and importantly, why it matters. Katy Perry is trying and missing the mark in her interview with Deray McKesson, Bill Maher is regressing to antebellum sensibilities, and New York Times author Kenan Malik is defending cultural appropriation using, of all people, Elvis Presley as an example. So Brie and Joe buckled down and...

Duration: 01:13:00

Episode 18. Party in the USA!: Miley Cyrus, Cultural Appropriation, and Ten-Year Reunions

We need to talk about something important: Brie and Joe's upcoming ten-year college reunion. The SWOTI hosts discuss what we're looking forward to, what we're dreading, and the deep satisfaction of baring one's midriff to bypass some of those awkward reunion interactions. Next, we turn to Miley Cyrus and the ire she's drawn from the Internet due to her recent comments about hip hop: her complicated relationship with the genre and the parts of it she views as misogynistic. Is this outrage...

Duration: 01:02:47

Episode 17 - When White Things Happen To Black People: On Shea Moisture & Jesse Williams

Joe and Brie are back, and they're talking about the controversial Shea Moisture advertisement which raised heckles when it excluded the black women who comprise the product's user base. What obligation does a black owned, black targeted hair product company have to acknowledge its base in its ads? Are black products "allowed" to expand to a more diverse audience? Does abandoning the company for a white-owned one teach it the desired lesson? Then, Brie & Joe discuss "woke bae" Jesse...

Duration: 00:48:43

"I Feel Some Type of Way About Allison Williams": Get Out & Interracial Relationships

We watched Jordan Peele's revolutionary horror film "Get Out" and asked what, if any, message about interracial relationships we were supposed to draw from a horror flick about whiteness. How generalizable is the subtext about trust and authenticity? What lessons should we take from the inclusion of an Asian and Latino character in a film that otherwise draws black and white boundary lines between good and evil? Joe and Brie are joined by original SWOTI members Lyse and Chef for a...

Duration: 01:05:16

Episode 13. Heil to the Chief? The First Seven Days of Trump's America

We hope you're ready, because season two of SWOTI is finally here! This week, we talk about the end times, so to speak: Trump's first seven days in office. Did we hate watch the inauguration? (Of course we did.) What did we think of the Women's March? Is social protest a way to win elections or to win wars? And is it *ever* all right to punch a Nazi? We wrap things up with a couple glads and mads: the Oscars and some other Hollywood foolishness. So pull up a chair and join the conversation...

Duration: 01:00:56

Episode 12. The Maddest and Gladdest of 2016!!!!

Join us for the last episode of the season! In this one, Joe and Brie do "a year in review": what were the best "you glads" and "you mads" of 2016? They each offer up their favorites ranging from media (BoJack Horseman and The Real Housewives of NY get a shout out) to music (the Knowles sisters feature heavily) to politics (Brie's over the democratic party and alternative media gets a big thumbs up). They even dabble in a little relationship advice. Let them know what stuck with you this...

Duration: 01:09:49

Episode 11. A Racial Bechdel Test: Everyone's a Little Bit Racist, Even Tilda Swinton . . . and Brie

First there was Batman v. Superman; now we have Margaret Cho v. Tilda Swinton. Was Margaret right in calling Tilda out for treating her like a "house Asian"? Is Tilda as woke as she thinks she is? Joe and Brie examine the receipts and find ourselves firmly on Team Cho. We discuss Hollywood's continued whitewashing of Asian roles, why gender diversity isn't more important that racial diversity, and also why, in the end, we might throw Tilda a bone. Next, we chat about a "Racial Bechdel...

Duration: 00:59:13

Episode 10. Call me "Racist": Why Language Matters in Trump’s America & No "Glads"

We wrap up our debrief of Brie's interview with a Trump supporter by diving into the topic of race. Namely, what’s the best way to talk about race and racism with conservatives? How do we challenge those around us without alienating them? Has race become the third rail of politics in Trump’s America? Brie and Joe butt heads about whether we should be out here shaming racists. We end with the shortest “U Glad” segment ever—we had to dig deep. Like cashews deep.

Duration: 00:59:46

Episode 9. Straight from the Elephant's mouth: A discussion with a Trump voter

Finally, our long-awaited interview with a Trump supporter is here! Join Brie as she talks politics with someone outside her "bubble." Why did this person choose to vote for Donald Trump? What is one conservative's perspective on race in America and the Obama presidency? Let's just say someone is very, very wrong on the internet. Joe and Brie then debrief the conversation and talk about the challenge of talking to individuals who disagree with your values, and how asking for the receipts...

Duration: 01:18:48

Episode 8. Color Me Thankful: A SWOTI Glads-giving Extravaganza!

Join us around the table to talk turkey! It's Thanksgiving, and we're giving a voyeuristic peak into our families' respective traditions from Korean bonchon to Luther Vandross and wine. We're also reflecting on what we're thankful for and how we're feeling two weeks after this momentous election. Stick around until the end, when we give you a taste of Brie's authentic Thanksgiving playlist!

Duration: 00:47:26

Episode 7. Trump's America: A Post-Election Assessment of What Went Wrong & Review of FX's "Atlanta"

It's been quite the week. Join us as we comfort each other, attempt to figure out what went wrong, investigate how the media failed us, and figure out how to fix this thing going forward. Also, stick around for our "U Glad?" segment in which we discuss Donald Glover's near-perfect dramady "Atlanta" on FX, with a focus on the ambiguous messaging in the ambitious "trans-racial" episode.

Duration: 01:15:14

Episode 6. "The Black Vote," Deray Mckesson's Clinton Endorsement, & the return of The Gilmore Girls

In these last days before the 2016 presidential election, we tackle the declining black voter turnout, and discuss substantive reasons why black voters might be less enthusiastic about a Clinton presidency. We also address the implications of Deray McKesson's Clinton endorsement, and close with a light hearted discussion of the new Gilmore Girls episodes premiering later this month. Does the show hold up? We'll tell you.

Duration: 01:01:54

Episode 5. Third Party Politics & Review of HBO's Insecure

Is now the time for a 3rd party candidate? Join us for a discussion of the merits of "protest" voting, and then unwind with chat about Issa Rae's new HBO show insecure. What were our expectations? Did the show live up to them? Do we ask more of shows featuring underrepresented stories than we do of "mainstream" (read white) shows? Is that fair?

Duration: 00:57:19

Episode 4. Birth of a Nation: Rapey or Nah?

Join us for an in-depth discussion of controversial film Birth of a Nation. Should you see it? We'll let you know! We discuss both the substantive merit of the film, the ethical dilemma presented by the actions of it's creator and star against whom a late nineties rape allegation recently became public knowledge, and the ways in which reviews of the film are influenced by the politics surrounding Nate Parker. The "U Mad?" segment features a discussion of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and her...

Duration: 01:05:28

Episode 3. VP Debate, Implicit Bias, & Jesse Watter's Anti-Asian American Racism

Three friends of color bring humor to a discussion about the VP debate, implicit bias, and the backlash Jesse Watter's racist man-on-the-street interview in New York's Chinatown.

Duration: 00:40:09

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