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Gavin Sutherland is a conductor, composer and orchestrator who specials in dance—he’s conducted for Northern Ballet, Birmingham Royal Ballet, Royal New Zealand Ballet, Norwegian and Finnish National Ballet as well as English National Ballet where he is principal guest conductor. He and Emma discuss his career as a conductor that starting aged 18, his favourite joke to tell an orchestra and why certain music has the power to pull on our heartstrings. Holst's Jupiter conducted by Susanna Mälkki www.gavinsutherland.co.uk The three questions... What piece of art changed everything? The Towpath a paint by Christopher Nevinson, has a personal reason as well as artistic for being your pick. What piece of art do you nor like, but respect? Not a (Mark) Rothko fan, but I understand its scale and complexity in so few elements of its construction. Give us a recommendation... The symphonies of Sir Arnold Bax

Charlotte Maclet is an award winning violinist who first performed a Mendelssohn concerto at age nine! She has performed as a soloist in her native France and abroad. She led the acclaimed quartet Camerata Alma Viva and is now first violinist for Zaïde Quartet. She and Emma discuss her recent recording with Zaïde, Invisible, which places the music of Fanny Mendelssohn and Clara Schumann alongside the more famous men who share a surname, how to lead a quartet as democratically as possible and why she chose life in chamber music over a solo career. Quatuor Zaïde Buy their record: Invisible The 3 Questions: What piece of art changed everything for you? The work of Gustav Klimt What piece of art do you respect rather than like? The work of Marina Abrahmovitch Give us a recommendation... Listen to Glen Gould! And read Haruki Murakami's Absolutely On Music

Andrew Mellor is a journalist and critic. He has written about music, architecture, design, and cultural politics for publications around the world and is a critic for Gramophone and the Financial Times. He and Emma chat about his new book The Northern Silence, why it might be too late for meaningful access to classical music in Britain--especially in education and why Helsinki airport is so quiet?! Andrew's blog Buy The Northern Silence The 3 Questions: What piece of art changed everything for you? Glynbourne Opera's Theodora by Handel What piece of art do you respect rather than like? English Song Give us a recommendation... The films of Joachim Trier

In this, the last episode of our miniseries, Emma Lister and Amy Drew are joined by choreographer Morgann Runacre-Temple and dancer/teacher Senri Kou to discuss how being pregnant and having a child fits (or doesn’t fit) into the dance sector. We talk morning sickness during a show of Sleeping Beauty, the physical and hormonal changes of pregnancy, the decision to go back to performing vs the decision to stop, how you're perceived in the dance world as a parent and the trials of finding childcare ...we're getting it all out on the table! We also have a mini survey we conducted on UK and international ballet companies to help us decipher what the 'norms' are in the sector. REFERENCES https://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/21/arts/dance/21agui.html https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/conceptionandfertilityrates/bulletins/childbearingforwomenbornindifferentyearsenglandandwales/2020 https://pipacampaign.org/research/balancing-act-survey?referrer=/research https://www.dancedataproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Connecting-the-Dots-Update.pdf

This week hosts Emma Lister, Amy Drew and Matthew Paluch continue their discussion of the phenomenon of “cancel culture” in the ballet and dance world. Please do listen to Part I first if you haven't! Where does the term 'cancel culture' come from, what are the mechanisms at work? How does it apply to ballet? What about calls to reclaim it as 'accountability culture'? We are talking about the Rosie Kay debacle, Liam Scarlett and the recent pressure to ostracise Russian dancers who don't denounce Putin. Wish us luck… This episode is in two, more digestible parts, both are out now. REFERENCES · https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/madness-of-crowds-9781472959959/ · https://www.insider.com/cancel-culture-meaning-history-origin-phrase-used-negatively-2020-7 · https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/12/22/cancel-culture-what-views-are-britons-afraid-expre · https://screenrant.com/gone-with-wind-movie-problematic-slavery-racism-reason/ · https://www.dancemagazine.com/nutcracker-racist/ · https://www.danceaustralia.com.au/expertise/cancel-culture-and-the-ballet · https://www.scotsman.com/whats-on/arts-and-entertainment/scottish-ballet-to-make-important-changes-to-the-nutcracker-after-anti-racism-review-3445761 · Ratmanksy Instagram post · https://www.dancemagazine.com/liam-scarlett-cancel-culture/ · Paris Opera Report · https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2022/feb/26/ballet-goes-on-as-uk-audience-backs-russian-dancers

This week, in part I, host Emma Lister and Matthew Paluch discuss the phenomenon of 'cancel culture' in the ballet and dance world. Where does this term come from and what are the mechanisms at work? How does it apply to ballet? What about calls to reclaim it as 'accountability culture'? We will be discussing the recent instances of 'cancelling' The Nutcracker and the removal of ballet from auditions at a UK dance institute. Wish us luck… This episode is in two, more digestible parts, both are out now. REFERENCES · https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/madness-of-crowds-9781472959959/ · https://www.insider.com/cancel-culture-meaning-history-origin-phrase-used-negatively-2020-7 · https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/12/22/cancel-culture-what-views-are-britons-afraid-expre · https://screenrant.com/gone-with-wind-movie-problematic-slavery-racism-reason/ · https://www.dancemagazine.com/nutcracker-racist/ · https://www.danceaustralia.com.au/expertise/cancel-culture-and-the-ballet · https://www.scotsman.com/whats-on/arts-and-entertainment/scottish-ballet-to-make-important-changes-to-the-nutcracker-after-anti-racism-review-3445761 · Ratmanksy Instagram post · https://www.dancemagazine.com/liam-scarlett-cancel-culture/ · Paris Opera Report · https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2022/feb/26/ballet-goes-on-as-uk-audience-backs-russian-dancers

Welcome to our new mini series! We’re talking about things that historically have been taboo to discuss in ballet. In episode one, host Emma Lister is joined by series co-host Amy Drew, they dissect what’s taboo about menstrual cycles in the context of ballet and get great advice and information from Dr Nicky Keay, Dr Stephanie Potreck and Julianne Rice-Oxley. We're talking heavy periods, missing periods, nutrition, cycle tracking, perimenopause and hormonal birth control. Even if you’re not a dancer who has periods, we know you have a friend, partner, coworker, sibling, parent or dance teacher who does. This is essential listening to start reframing how we talk, train and feel about menstrual cycle—from day one to menopause. REFERENCES Dr Nicky Keay's book - Hormones, Health and Human Potential Jennis.com- Jessica Ennis app Athletes monitoring Period Power https://www.outsideonline.com/health/training-performance/menstrual-cycle-injury-risk/ Patriarchy pad picture

Lighting designer Jessica Hung Han Yun won a Knight of Illumination Award for Equus at Stratford East when she was just 24. She’s since worked at the National Theatre, Donmar Warehouse, Rambert2, The Royal Court, and she has also designed lights for the revered theatre company Complicité and director Nicholas Hytner. Her upcoming work on RSC's My Neighbour Totoro can be seen at the Barbican from Oct 2022. She and host Emma Lister talk about creativity under pressure, how lighting is like editing, why she struggles with Shakespeare and trying to live up to the beloved animated classic My Neighbour Totoro. www.jessicahhy.com The 3 Questions... Was there a piece of art that changed everything for you? Artist Rei Naito and architect Ryue Nishizawa’s, Teshima Art Museum Was there a piece of art that you think has value but don’t necessarily like? Shakespeare What/who should we check out that we may not know about?... Christopher Bauder’s work for Dark Matter and ABBA Voyage

Anders Duckworth is a British/Swedish choreographer. With training in both design and dance, their work blurs movement, fashion and visual arts. Constantly seeking new collaborations, they have choreographed for short film, installations, and theatrical pieces. Anders was selected as a Work Place Artist at The Place in London until 2026. In this interview, Anders and Emma talk about their new piece, Mapping Gender, how to rehearse in an 18th century dress, working with an olfactory artist and why it's impossible for a map to be unbiased. Mapping Gender premieres at London's The Place on 28 September, 2022, and will tour to Cambridge Junctions and Worthing Theatres and Museum. www.andersduckworth.com Jerry Brotton's A History of the World in Twelve Maps The dress from the V&A collection. The 3 Questions... Piece that changed everything? Hussein Chalayan ready to wear, fall, 2000 Piece that you don’t like but think has value? 'Whaam!', Roy Lichtenstein (1963) Who/what should we know about that we may not? Maresa von Stockert, Alethia Antonia, Elinor Lewis (and her company Plue).

Nicholas Thayer is a London-born, Netherlands-based composer, producer and inter-disciplinary artist. His electronic and new classical work has been composed for dance pieces, gallery installations and site specific work. He and Emma discuss Entropy, a lockdown collaboration for Ballet Zurich that has finally been performed live on stage and the album it lead to: Tetramer, out now. They also talk about adolescent musical tastes, how Glenn Gould revolutionised the recording studio and that time Mötley Crüe's Tommy Lee sent Nicholas an email... The 3 Questions... Was there a piece of art that changed everything for you? 'Appetite for Destruction', Guns‘n Roses, Was there a piece of art that you think has value but don’t necessarily like? N/A! If he thinks a piece of art has value, he must therefore like it. What/who should we check out that we may not know about?... The documentary film Sisters with Transistors Thoughts and lectures of Brian Eno The work of Ryoji Ikeda

Yann Seabra is a stage designer whose work has been sought after by companies such as The Royal Opera House, San Francisco Ballet, Circa, Ballet Black and Protein Dance company. He and Emma discuss the tutu he designed with 5000 Swarovski crystals on it for Cira Robinson, why he loves a 70s silhouette, his long time collaboration with choreographer Arthur Pita and his new work for Mthuthuzeli November's piece Wailers at Northern Ballet. www.yannseabra.com The 3 Questions... Was there a piece of art that changed everything for you? Alternative Miss World Was there a piece of art that you think has value but don’t necessarily like? Tate Modern: Surrealism Beyond Borders What/who should we check out that we may not know about?... Dmitri Papapganos and Katrin Brach

Alesandra Seutin is an award-winning multidisciplinary performance artist and choreographer who works internationally between Senegal, Belgium and the UK. She leads two international touring dance performance companies: Vocab Dance which she founded 2007 and she is also Co-Artistic Director of the famed École des Sables. Alesandra is an artistic advisor at Sadler’s Wells, where she is also Guest Artistic Director of National Youth Dance Company (NYDC) for the second year running. In 2022 she worked with the young dancers of the current NYDC cohort to create a new show Quartier Paradis. In this episode host Emma Lister and she discuss the vital ways movement can be influenced by voice, new dance hierarchies, how French magical realist film, Night of Kings, part inspired her piece for NYDC…and the relevancy of Eurovision Song Contest! The 3 Questions... Was there a piece of art that changed everything for you? Dakar Biennale Was there a piece of art that you think has value but don’t necessarily like? Eurotrash pop music What/who should we check out that we may not know about?... Dushime music maker/actor Amapiano

Last week’s episode circled around the taboo of motherhood in the dance world, the lack of a full time company in Ireland and the question of why there is comparatively so many women making dance work in Ireland. We’ll be following up and expanding on all these topics in this week’s episode. In this series we’ll be interviewing Irish women making dance in a virtual roundtable with MOSHMA host Emma Lister and her regular cohost Zoë Ashe-Browne, winner of the Constance Markievicz Award, 2021. Ep 3 - Roundtable part 2, Liz Roche, Liv O'Donoghue, Sibéal Davitt This mini series has been made possible by support from the Arts Council Ireland on behalf of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media. REFERENCES Dance Data Project statistics NYTimes profile of DDP found Elizabeth Yntema

What do you think of when you think of Ireland? The Emerald Isle, Guinness, Oscar Wilde and Riverdance? What about women making dance? Because this tiny island turns out loads of them--just over 80% of recent dance bursary awardees were for women making work. In a time when the dance world is confronting the predominance of men in roles of leadership, what is Ireland getting right? Is it ahead of the curve? But where are these makers to go? Ireland does not have one permanent dance company...lots to discuss here! Over three episodes we’ll be interviewing Irish women making dance in a virtual roundtable with host Emma Lister and her regular cohost Zoë Ashe-Browne, winner of the Constance Markievicz Award, 2021. Roundtable part 1: Marguerite Donlon, Sarah Reynolds, Roisin Whelan This mini series has been made possible by support from the Arts Council Ireland on behalf of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media. REFERENCES Dance Data Project Statistics Gender pay gap in Ireland in the Irish Times and also here in RTE

Ahead of our first roundtable discussion with six women making dance in Ireland, Emma Lister and cohost Zoë Ashe-Browne give a (tiny) bit of Irish history and pose the driving question of this new mini series: In a time when the conversation in dance often turns to the predominance of men in roles of leadership, why are there so many women choreographing in Ireland? Zoë Ashe-Browne is the winner of the Markievicz Award 2021. This mini series has been made possible by support from the Arts Council Ireland on behalf of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media. REFERENCES Dance Data Project census 2021 Lecture on Constance Markievicz by Prof Paseta

Dolly Brown is a photographer who specialises in documenting art and artists. She may be best known as her Instagram alterego: @londonlivingdoll. She's worked with The Royal Ballet, Barbican, Tate Modern, Trisha Brown Dance Company, BalletBoyz, Mark Morris Dance Group among many others and has exhibited in the London galleries such as Mother, Plinth, London Institute of Photography and Galerie Norbert Arns in Cologne. We spoke about one of her favourite shots of all time, why she likes to work on the periphery of her subjects and how Instagram subverted existing power dynamics within the photography industry. The 3 Questions... Is there a piece of art that changed everything or you? James Joyce - Ulysses Virginia Woolf - Mrs Dalloway Is there a piece of art or artist that you don't necessarily like, but you think has value? Wagner Tell us about an artist that we may not know about but who we should check out. Gregory Spears, composer Jan Svobada, photographer

Kalle Nio is a magician and visual artist based in Finland. He is co-drector/founder of the theatre company WHS and the recipient of numerous awards including the Finnish state prize for Multidisciplinary Art and the Helsinki Cultural Prize. In this episode he and host Emma Lister discuss Lähtö (Départ), a beautiful, uncategorizable theatre piece which he directs and performs in, as well as the connections between magic and early cinema, why Victorian magicians inspire him most and his 2016 piece, Cutting Edge. Kalle is another interview in our artist chain after having been nominated by Adrian Berry in the previous episode! Kallenio.com Lähtö trailer Cutting Edge trailer The 3 questions... Was there a piece of art that changed everything for you? Philippe Genty's Dédale Was there a piece of art that you didn't like but that you think has value? Xavier Le Roy's Untitled Who should the listeners know about who they may not? Tin Grabnar, theatre director of Somewhere Else

In the final episode of our three part miniseries, we zoom in to meet three dancers. They are all at different stages of their careers and their lives have been affected in different ways by the pandemic: GEAROID: 18 months into his professional career he is leaving his company job in Zurich. But, with the pandemic looming it is not the ideal time to go job hunting… TIA: A mid career freelancer, Tia is days away from opening night of AWDC performance at Sadler’s Wells when the UK gets its stay at home orders… MINTY: At a point in her career where she is dancing her dream roles, Minty can’t shake the feeling that there’s another direction she should explore. Then Covid hit… In this episode we will also zoom out, looking at the larger picture of how dancers, whose performing years are so limited, have had their careers particularly altered by the pandemic. REFERENCES: Theresa Ruth Howard, companies sending dance floor to dancers in their homes, humanizes dancers. Freelancers Make Theatre Work analysis of challenges faced by performing arts sector freelancers NYTimes reports on artists losing health care coverage from unions NYTimes says 35 is average retirement age for dancers

The last 18 months have been a trying time for everyone’s mental health. But how have dancers been uniquely affected? A group of artists whose lives and identities are notoriously tied up in training and career—what happened when the theatres went dark and the studios fell silent? Through interviews with a range of dancers, host Emma Lister explores mental health during the pandemic— taking in depression, PTSD, body image issues, substance abuse…and some surprising positive effects too! Interviewees: Isaac Bowry Crystal Costa Ash Mukherjee Vanessa Vince Pang with Kristen McGarrity, BSc (Hons) Psychology SURVEY RESULTS Has the Covid-19 pandemic affected your mental health negatively? (you can tick multiple) Anxiety | 73.65% Depression | 51.26% Insomnia | 31.77% Loneliness | 51.26% Boredom | 50.9% Fear | 44.04% Anger | 35.38% Obsessive behaviour | 19.13% Alcohol/substance abuse | 13.36% Stress | 64.98% PTSD | 6.86% Suicidal Thoughts | 9.75% No it hasn't affected me negatively | 4.69% Has the Covid-19 pandemic affected your mental health positively? (you can tick multiple) Time to reflect | 67.03% Time to rest | 63.41% Time to heal (physically or mentally) | 46.38% Spend more time with loved ones | 52.54% Reconnected with people | 28.62% No, there have been no positives | 5.43% REFERENCES PubMed article Forbes article In the UK and Ireland, Samaritans can be contacted on 116 123 or email jo@samaritans.org or jo@samaritans.ie In the US, the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline is at 800-273-8255 or chat for support Other international helplines can be found at www.befrienders.org Kristen’s references: Cooley, C.H. (1902) Human Nature and the Social Order, New York, Scribner. Hollway, W. (2012) Social Psychology Matter, The Open University, Milton Keynes, Chapter 5: Self, pp. 123 - 124. Mind.org.uk

In this, the first episode of our mini-series Dance in the Time of Corona, Emma Lister is joined by cohosts Zoë Ashe-Browne and Shelby Williams. They reveal the results of a survey they conducted after the controversial Venice Biennale College Danza audition call and the ensuing movement: #payyourdancers. The survey was open to ALL professional dancers, past and present. Respondents represented every corner of the dance world: Jazz dancers, tap dancers, commercial, Irish, Hip Hop, classical Indian, classical ballet, contemporary, musical theatre and ballroom. What do they all have in common? Well, 92% had seen something advertised or were approached about unpaid work. When is this OK? When is it exploitative? How will the pandemic affect dancers being offered such work? Featuring an interview with Friedrich Pohl, of Dancers Connect. REFERENCES: www.dancersconnect.de Facebook thread from Venice Biennale College Danza Whistle While You Work Royal Family Dance Crew Broadway show attendance 80% of dancers in UK freelance West End box office figures Ballet Black Trainee position