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Conversations In Close Protection is the podcast of the International Protective Security Board (IPSB). We seek to enhance the discussions and promote values, information and education within the Close Protection Community.


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Conversations In Close Protection is the podcast of the International Protective Security Board (IPSB). We seek to enhance the discussions and promote values, information and education within the Close Protection Community.




CICP 2021 Auld Lang Syne Edition

Happy New Year's Eve! This week in the last episode of 2021, we review the CiCP Top Ten Podcasts of the year and what they meant to us. We also go over trends and focuses for the industry as we enter 2022. As they say, we will see you next year!


CICP X - Mas 2021

CICP X - Mas 2021 by Conversations In Close Protection


CPC 2021 CiCP Live

Didn't get to go to the Close Protection? Join Chuck and Chris as they break down the conference and share the live question and answer session from this year's event. Lots of great discussions and audience participation. So, it's LIVE FROM VEGAS...CICP at the Close Protection Conference 2021!


Go Noisy Redux

Please enjoy this redux episode while the team is at the cClose Protection Conference.


CPC 21 Preview

Are you going to the Close Protection Conference this year? It continues to be the LARGEST gathering of risk protection professionals in the industry. The CiCP team breaks down the event, the events surrounding the conference, and how to get the most out of your experience. Oh yeah, about that live recording! Will we see you in Vegas?


Crazy Prepper Brian Duff (Fixed)

Prepper sometimes has a negative connotation. Yet in close protection and in security in general, we endeavor to prepare for most contingencies. 2020 made most preparedness enthusiast ideas relevant as we faced a lot of challenges globally with regional challenges being a lot more prevalent. We sat down with the "Crazy Prepper" Brian Duff, a former PSD professional to discuss what to think about when "prepping". Chuck and Chris translate into protective terms and suddenly it isn't so crazy...


Book Of Five Rings Redux (1)

The team is operational this week, we thought it fitting to walk back through Samurai Miyamoto Musashi's analysis of the process of struggle and mastery of professional and personal conflict that underlies every level of human interaction, from purpose to profession. An older but very relevant episode as protectors slowly, but surely enter the arena once again. A must listen episode. If you don't have this book in your library the link is in the notes


Nov Shop Talk Audio Only

This week, in an early CiCP Shop Talk, we discuss increasing localized threats, educating stakeholders on protective programs and operations, and health awareness in the ability to perform protective operations. We also touch on public private partnerships in threat information sharing and understanding the difference between general and specific threats. Join in!


Culture In The Industry Redux

CiCP is on Operational status, so let's revisit an important earlier episode. It's a throwback from before the digital divide - so join Chuck and the "indelible" Mr. Chris Story in our conversation regarding culture in the close protection industry. It features a discussion from three points featuring Chris Marshal, Brad Christian, and Kristin Lenardson. What are your thoughts on culture within the industry? Let us know at


GSX Standards Panel Wrap Up

As part of their GSX review, the team reviews the panel they participated in that discussed creating standards within the industry. Chuck and Chris break down the panel discussion, give historical perspectives, personal thoughts, and talk to the various groups lending their energy to the effort. It's a highly informative talk about a significant evolution within the Protectors' Industry. Please give us your thoughts at


Q And A Oct 2021

In our latest episode, we dig into the virtual mailbag for listener Q and A. The team digs into finding balance as a parent and protection agent, protective intelligence when you don't have the resources, resume issues, moving into leadership roles, and standards within the industry. It is a great conversation - driven by your questions. Thanks to all those who support and listen. Oh yeah ---- ABOUT THOSE T-SHIRTS!


CiCP GSX 2021 Hotwash

The CiCP team was together in one place for the first time in almost two years, meeting at GSX in Orlando. In our first micro episode, we review the industry, the players, and GSX itself. Back to full episodes next week!! Thank you for joining us! Please give us your feedback at


Sept Shop Talk (Audio)

This episode discusses the spate of attacks in the past two weeks, including Larry Elder and Ben Affleck. We also review updates in the Haitian presidential assassination, a new ISO standard surrounding travel, OSINT, and more. Join in and let us know what you think


Will Plummer & CiCP

Will Plummer & CiCP by Conversations In Close Protection


9.11 And CiCP

There are few events in our lives that had the impact and the significance of 9/11. As we near the eve of the 20th anniversary of the tragic events of that day that had so many consequences, we discuss our perspectives on it and how it affected the protective security industry and the world.


Where security, risk and human behavior intersect… : Miranda Copoolse

This week we talk to MC Consulting's Miranda Copoolse about behavioral analysis and identifying behaviors above the baseline. Join us as Miranda walks us through how behaviors impact us, the environment around us, those we interact with, how to identify them and manage them. As well she gives us a glimpse at identifying behaviors that can impact security and how to use that identification to change the trajectory of the threat


CiCP's Summer Reading List

This week we review some past guests' reading recommendations and throw some of our own in the mix as we continue to broaden our knowledge base. Join us as we hear from published authors Elijah Shaw, Spencer Coursen, and Fred Burton on what they're reading this summer and what seasoned risk intelligence and protection leader Ryan Long recommends as well.


Janet Lawless CiCP

This week we talk to Janet Lawless, CEO, and founder of The Center for Threat Intelligence. Janet and her team focus on helping organizations create threat intelligence teams to proactively identify threats in multiple environments to mitigate and manage them before they affect the organization. We discuss threat intelligence, signposts, and blind spots, the need for convergence, and much more in the conversation.


Pierre Saint Remy

With recent events in Haiti, we tracked down the former Director of the Haitian Secret Service, Pierre St. Remy. Pierre walks us through his time managing the Presidential Detail and gives us a glimpse inside Haiti itself. As well, he gives his opinion on what may have happened with the recent assassination though it is still very early in the process there. Join us in this very interesting conversation.


Shop Talk July (Audio)

It's Shop Talk! This time the team discusses the International Security Conference & Exposition – West and conference attendance. We also discuss the Delta variant, the Haitian President being assassinated and the shooting outside the Washington Nationals Stadium and its effects and lessons learned. Join in.