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The Lawyers Weekly Podcast Network explores the myriad issues, challenges, trends and opportunities facing legal professionals in Australia. Produced by Australia’s largest and most-trusted legal publication, Lawyers Weekly, the four shows on the channel – The Lawyers Weekly Show, The Corporate Counsel Show, The Boutique Lawyer Show and Protégé – all bring legal marketplace news to the audience via engaging and insightful conversations. Our editorial team talking to legal professionals and industry experts about their fascinating careers, ground-breaking case work, broader sociocultural quagmires, and much more. Visit www.lawyersweekly.com.au/podcasts for the full list of episodes.

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The Lawyers Weekly Podcast Network explores the myriad issues, challenges, trends and opportunities facing legal professionals in Australia. Produced by Australia’s largest and most-trusted legal publication, Lawyers Weekly, the four shows on the channel – The Lawyers Weekly Show, The Corporate Counsel Show, The Boutique Lawyer Show and Protégé – all bring legal marketplace news to the audience via engaging and insightful conversations. Our editorial team talking to legal professionals and industry experts about their fascinating careers, ground-breaking case work, broader sociocultural quagmires, and much more. Visit www.lawyersweekly.com.au/podcasts for the full list of episodes.

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English


Episodes

Personal injury: An ‘ever-growing area of law’

6/9/2023
From insurance sector updates to the advent of artificial intelligence (AI), there has perhaps never been a greater volume of challenging work for personal injury lawyers to do. For Jeremy Roche, ensuring that our nationwide frameworks are operating properly is critical if lawyers in this space are able to support clients and the community as best as possible. On this episode of The Lawyers Weekly Show, host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with Attwood Marshall Lawyers partner Jeremy Roche about his family’s long and storied history in personal injury law, why he is so passionate about this space, how the nature of such legal work has evolved in recent years and why there is so much work in this space right now. Mr Roche also details the existing issues between compensation schemes across the country and why he thinks Queensland’s model is the “gold standard” across Australia, whether now is the most challenging time ever for personal injury lawyers, trends emerging on the horizon that lawyers in this space need to be across, interpreting changes in the insurance space, and how AI can and will help evolve personal injury and compensation legal work.

Duration:00:33:47

LawTech Talks: Lawyers’ use of AI will continually evolve

6/8/2023
On this special episode of LawTech Talks, produced in partnership with LexisNexis, we explore what lessons have been learnt from recent advancements in artificial intelligence and how lawyers can and should be adapting to the brave new world. Host Jerome Doraisamy is joined by LexisNexis Asia and Pacific Managing Director Greg Dickason to discuss the breadth of change we have witnessed in the development and utilisation of AI in recent months, why use of AI for lawyers isn’t going anywhere, the primary challenges currently being experienced with AI as it continually evolves, and what lawyers can confidently use such platforms for at this point in time. Mr Dickason also reflects on how significant the advent of AI is for daily legal practice (relative to other earth-shattering events), how lawyers should perceive the scale and pace of change, whether lawyers will be left behind if they do not adapt to using AI right now, how much change is still to come and why certain legal tasks may be unrecognisable in the coming years, whether recalibration of what it means to be a lawyer is needed, and how LexisNexis is helping practitioners in this evolution. To learn more about LexisNexis’ work in AI, click here. If you like this episode, show your support by rating us or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (The Lawyers Weekly Show) and by following Lawyers Weekly on social media: Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. If you have any questions about what you heard today, any topics of interest you have in mind, or if you'd like to lend your voice to the show, email editor@lawyersweekly.com.au for more insights!

Duration:00:26:40

The Corporate Counsel Show: Now is a great time to lead

6/6/2023
Bianca Lau, who runs an award-winning law department at Youi Insurance, argues that we are currently living through a new era for corporate legal professionals — one in which in-house teams have greater scope and opportunity to make their mark. On this episode of The Corporate Counsel Show, host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with Youi Insurance head of legal Bianca Lau about navigating the necessary adaptations to management of law departments in recent years, remaining true to the vision one has of the team that one leads, the current state of affairs in the insurance sector and how to perceive its challenges, and anticipating what might be coming for the sector. Ms Lau also details how best to balance what’s on the horizon for in-house counsel and future considerations for the sector one works in, managing competing priorities, bringing one’s team along for the journey, what makes a good in-house counsel and leader right now, getting buy-in across the business, grasping the myriad opportunities to redefine the law department and why we’re entering a new era. If you like this episode, show your support by rating us or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (The Lawyers Weekly Show) and by following Lawyers Weekly on social media: Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. If you have any questions about what you heard today, any topics of interest you have in mind, or if you'd like to lend your voice to the show, email editor@lawyersweekly.com.au for more insights!

Duration:00:25:24

Property Finance Uncut: Don’t be caught in RBA’s rate hike crossfire

6/6/2023
With the Reserve Bank (RBA) announcing its policy decision for June, borrowers are bracing for another rocky month marked with more mortgage pain. In this episode, Smart Property Investment’s Phil Tarrant and Finni Mortgages’ chief executive, Paul Glossop, talk about the central bank’s move to take another swipe at inflation, how mortgage holders are being caught in the crossfire and why they think borrowers are not completely “out of the woods” just yet. While the duo acknowledge it will take a longer time for the rate rise cycle to reach its last stop, they explore the different ways borrowers can find reprieve amid the rising mortgage squeeze — including a modified serviceability assessment rate offered to those who have a good track record among lenders. Lastly, they advise property owners to focus on “longevity”, explain why one’s borrowing capacity is “just one aspect” of the equation, and discuss the importance of “stress testing” your personal cash flow.

Duration:00:27:58

The Boutique Lawyer Show: Being ‘less lawyer, more human’

6/6/2023
Clients are now demanding more human-centred services, Natasha Hannah says, and as such, law firm leaders must walk the talk when it comes to showcasing greater empathy and consideration for all stakeholders and staff — and ensuring such an approach is all-encompassing. On this episode of The Boutique Lawyer Show, host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with in house nous director and principal Natasha Hannah about her journey as an employment lawyer, why being an outsourced in-house lawyer is such an appealing vocational pathway for her, her experience of launching a boutique business while pregnant, and walking the talk when it comes to having a human-centric approach as an employment lawyer. The pair also discuss the place for bias when it comes to being more human, practising law and operating a business in ways that are true to one’s self, how being more human pertains to supporting individuals in the context of child-rearing, bringing stakeholders and staff along for the journey in changing mindsets, communicating effectively about one’s approach to business, how to be more human without sacrificing the firm’s finances, and Ms Hannah’s guidance for firm leaders about putting human considerations at the forefront. If you like this episode, show your support by rating us or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (The Lawyers Weekly Show) and by following Lawyers Weekly on social media: Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. If you have any questions about what you heard today, any topics of interest you have in mind, or if you'd like to lend your voice to the show, email editor@lawyersweekly.com.au for more insights!

Duration:00:25:15

Taking on unjust proposed laws — and winning

6/2/2023
Eleven years ago, the former Queensland state government proposed laws to criminalise gays, lesbians and singles from undertaking surrogacy. Internationally renowned surrogacy expert Stephen Page was among those who fought against the flagged laws and ultimately won that fight. Here, he discusses why lawyers can and must embrace change and always remember to serve others. On this episode of The Lawyers Weekly Show, host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with Page Provan director Stephen Page about his personal and professional journey, leading the fight against the then Queensland attorney-general’s push to criminalise gays, lesbians and singles from undertaking surrogacy, why this fight was so important and the toll it took on him. Mr Page also reflects on the legal skills he drew on during that fight, how it made him a better lawyer and advocate, why the label “activist” isn’t a bad thing for legal professionals, and how and why it is so critical for lawyers to remember that they are ultimately servants of the court and the communities around them. If you like this episode, show your support by rating us or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (The Lawyers Weekly Show) and by following Lawyers Weekly on social media: Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. If you have any questions about what you heard today, any topics of interest you have in mind, or if you'd like to lend your voice to the show, email editor@lawyersweekly.com.au for more insights!

Duration:00:27:14

The need for realistic salary expectations

6/1/2023
On this special episode of The Lawyers Weekly Show, produced in partnership with Naiman Clarke, we discuss why it is so important for lawyers who are hoping for pay rises in the new financial year to be pragmatic about what salary increases they can garner in the current climate. Host Jerome Doraisamy welcomes back Naiman Clarke director Elvira Naiman to discuss whether we are in danger of seeing lawyers have unrealistic expectations about their potential salary increases, why lawyers may be anticipating higher-than-normal pay rises, the factors that can and will drive the quantum of increases, and how a potential recession might impact such eventualities. Ms Naiman also reflects on the potential outcomes for lawyers who may find that their salary increases aren’t in line with what they were expecting, whether there could be increased movement between employers in the near future, the salary ranges we might be able to expect in the near future, the incentives being offered by employers in place of bigger salary increases, how to temper one’s expectations, and discusses Naiman Clarke’s upcoming salary guide. To learn more about Naiman Clarke, and find out about its upcoming salary guide, click here. If you like this episode, show your support by rating us or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (The Lawyers Weekly Show) and by following Lawyers Weekly on social media: Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. If you have any questions about what you heard today, any topics of interest you have in mind, or if you'd like to lend your voice to the show, email editor@lawyersweekly.com.au for more insights!

Duration:00:26:03

Protégé: From police prosecutor to law student

5/30/2023
Here, an ex-police prosecutor turned law student discusses why he has decided to swap ends of the bar table. On this episode of The Protégé Podcast, host Jess Feyder speaks with Joshua Kelly, who has spent two decades as a cop and held the role of police prosecutor, about why he decided to begin a law career. Mr Kelly discusses why his role in the police force has aided his understanding of the law and why it gives him a unique perspective to practise from. He discusses cases during his time as a prosecutor that impacted him and motivated him to make the change to law. Mr Kelly also talks about where he sees his legal career going and where Australia’s prosecution system might be flawed. If you like this episode, show your support by rating us or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (The Lawyers Weekly Show) and by following Lawyers Weekly on social media: Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. If you have any questions about what you heard today, any topics of interest you have in mind, or if you'd like to lend your voice to the show, email editor@lawyersweekly.com.au for more insights!

Duration:00:16:52

The Boutique Lawyer Show: Investing in relationships

5/30/2023
Given how much the legal landscape is modernising, relationships are more essential than ever before. As Gabriella Pomare says, “it’s who you know, it’s who you get to know, and it’s about putting yourself out there”. On this episode of The Boutique Lawyer Show, host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with The Norton Law Group partner Gabriella Pomare about becoming a leader in the firm set up by her father, what leadership means to her in the context of their family law firm, and the challenges involved in being a good leader in the age of COVID-19. Ms Pomare also details her thoughts on good relationship management, instilling the right mentalities in junior staff, navigating idiosyncratic needs and personality differences within a team, building and maintaining relationships with various external stakeholders, what constitutes a good investment of time and energy in relationships, why it is more important than ever before, and balancing such management on top of all other responsibilities for boutique law firm leaders. If you like this episode, show your support by rating us or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (The Lawyers Weekly Show) and by following Lawyers Weekly on social media: Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. If you have any questions about what you heard today, any topics of interest you have in mind, or if you'd like to lend your voice to the show, email editor@lawyersweekly.com.au for more insights!

Duration:00:20:26

The Corporate Counsel Show: Managing a cost-cutting environment

5/28/2023
On this special episode of The Corporate Counsel Show, produced in partnership with LOD, we explore how law departments can successfully navigate cost-cutting in these economically uncertain times. Host Jerome Doraisamy is joined by LOD head of market insights Mark Dodd and senior legal counsel Helena Kolenbet to discuss what in-house legal teams are currently grappling with when it comes to cost-cutting, the impact of such fiscal constraints on those teams, how Australian law departments might be faring compared to overseas counterparts, and whether cost-cutting is at, or near, the top of in-house leader’s list of urgent priorities. Mr Dodd and Ms Kolenbet also outline practical ways that law departments can thrive amid a cost-cutting environment, including ruthless prioritisation, eliminating waste, avoiding over-involvement so as to better manage given tasks, being pragmatic about what can be achieved, and boosting team morale, and how those in-house teams can and will benefit from implementation of such approaches. To learn more about LOD, click here. If you like this episode, show your support by rating us or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (The Lawyers Weekly Show) and by following Lawyers Weekly on social media: Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. If you have any questions about what you heard today, any topics of interest you have in mind, or if you'd like to lend your voice to the show, email editor@lawyersweekly.com.au for more insights!

Duration:00:30:38

A Namibian Supreme Court judge on driving human rights

5/26/2023
Justice David Smuts of the Supreme Court of Namibia shares how he has helped shape Namibia’s laws and legal system to imbed human rights into the country. On this episode of The Lawyers Weekly Show, host Jess Feyder speaks with Justice David Smuts about the changes he’s been instrumental in in Namibia’s legal system and how he went about securing those changes. Justice Smuts discusses how he challenged laws and aspects of the constitution, at a time when the country gained independence and its constitution and legal framework were being formed. His Honour also discusses how he has presided over court cases and worded judgments, aiming to influence the law and broader society to move towards equality and rights for both humans and animals. Justice Smuts discusses his career path, his motivations, and the methods he’s used to challenge laws and drive change, reflecting on how Namibia’s society has changed and how the judiciary has played a role in moving the country towards equality. His Honour also muses on the significance of the judiciary in its role of upholding moral principles and human rights for a country and gives advice to Australian lawyers who are passionate about driving positive legal and social change. If you like this episode, show your support by rating us or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (The Lawyers Weekly Show) and by following Lawyers Weekly on social media: Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. If you have any questions about what you heard today, any topics of interest you have in mind, or if you'd like to lend your voice to the show, email editor@lawyersweekly.com.au for more insights!

Duration:00:37:47

The Corporate Counsel Show: My experience as a ‘fractional’ GC

5/24/2023
Becoming a parent did more than reshape Matthew Hodgkinson’s personal life — it also changed, for the better, his professional pathway, leading him to become a “fractional” general counsel and have a greater appreciation for the need for “forgiving” advice and perspective as an in-house lawyer. On this episode of The Corporate Counsel Show, host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with Papillon Lawyers principal and managing partner Matthew Hodgkinson about how and why he ended up being a “fractional” general counsel, what that means and how it differs from being a freelance GC, the familial circumstances that mean operating as a fractional counsel is suitable for his needs. Mr Hodgkinson also unpacks how his vocational journey has shaped his thinking on what it means to be a good general counsel, the need for “forgiving” legal guidance and business advice, how fractional GC life is compatible with the post-pandemic world, whether he thinks the number of fractional GCs will increase in the future, and what excites him about that prospect. If you like this episode, show your support by rating us or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (The Lawyers Weekly Show) and by following Lawyers Weekly on social media: Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. If you have any questions about what you heard today, any topics of interest you have in mind, or if you'd like to lend your voice to the show, email editor@lawyersweekly.com.au for more insights!

Duration:00:19:48

What lawyers get wrong about leadership

5/23/2023
Historically, Simon Tupman muses, the legal profession has associated strong performance as a practitioner with leadership capabilities. In an ever-changing professional services marketplace, he says, leadership in law must have a more all-encompassing approach — because good lawyers don’t necessarily make good leaders. On this episode of The Lawyers Weekly Show, host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with Simon Tupman — a consultant, speaker and mentor to law firms — about what he believes law firms and legal teams are getting wrong when it comes to identifying leaders and why, whether poor leadership can cancel out any financial benefits that arise from promoting successful practitioners, and whether a revamp of business models in law will be required to better elevate certain leaders. Mr Tupman also reflects on how flexible and adaptable leaders in law have been since the onset of the global pandemic and what they are getting right in the new normal, the need for leaders in law to be more holistic in their approaches, and the key principles he has identified that will constitute effective leadership in the legal profession moving forward. If you like this episode, show your support by rating us or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (The Lawyers Weekly Show) and by following Lawyers Weekly on social media: Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. If you have any questions about what you heard today, any topics of interest you have in mind, or if you'd like to lend your voice to the show, email editor@lawyersweekly.com.au for more insights!

Duration:00:25:26

Protégé: One law student’s argument for lowering the voting age

5/21/2023
On this episode of The Protégé Podcast, Sydney-based law student Niki Nojoumian talks about why Australia should lower the voting age, and the legal and societal changes that would surround it. Host Jess Feyder speaks with Niki Nojoumian, a law student whose essay on lowering the voting age in Australia has gained recognition. Ms Nojoumian discusses the changes that should come with Australia adopting a voting age of 16, why it is especially relevant for this change to happen now, and why she found it important to advocate for a lower voting age. She also talks about why she decided to formulate the essay and the influential role her mentors have played in the project, discusses how law students can become engaged with the topic, and gives advice on how to successfully pursue research projects.

Duration:00:16:11

Implications arising from employers’ Voice positions

5/19/2023
Across Australia, corporate entities have taken a stance on the proposed Indigenous Voice to Parliament. But what happens if a lawyer in a firm has a different view from their employer? On this episode of The Lawyers Weekly Show, host Jerome Doraisamy welcomes back Swaab partner Michael Byrnes to discuss why so many corporate entities, including law firms, have decided to take a position on the Voice, the market factors driving such corporate positioning, and the potential implications for their employees — particularly those who might have opposing views. Mr Byrnes details the various employment and workplace relations scenarios that will have to be worked through, how employees can reasonably express their views if they are in conflict with their employer’s position, the dangers of overstepping in publicly contradicting one’s employer, and the steps both sides may need to take to ensure freedom of expression is balanced against corporate interests. If you like this episode, show your support by rating us or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (The Lawyers Weekly Show) and by following Lawyers Weekly on social media: Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. If you have any questions about what you heard today, any topics of interest you have in mind, or if you'd like to lend your voice to the show, email editor@lawyersweekly.com.au for more insights!

Duration:00:32:09

LawTech Talks: Outsourcing 101 in the new normal

5/18/2023
On this special episode of LawTech Talks, produced in partnership with law image, we explore how and why the legal profession is outsourcing much of its non-core work and what leaders in firms and businesses need to know to drive efficiency and productivity in an ever-volatile market. Host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with law image innovation and technology lead Tim Hall and head of commercial and corporate services Michael Wrobel to discuss what we mean by outsourcing and managed services, the market and workplace circumstances driving law firms and in-house teams towards outsourcing, whether the post-pandemic new normal has accelerated movement towards outsourcing, and existing barriers to meaningfully outsourcing the non-core work of one’s firm or team. Mr Hall and Mr Wrobel also detail their longer-term predictions for outsourcing against the backdrop of the current state of the market, the headline concerns and problems needing resolution for firms and teams, the extent to which proactivity with outsourcing is required, and whether those not outsourcing could be left behind. To learn more about law image, click here. If you like this episode, show your support by rating us or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (The Lawyers Weekly Show) and by following Lawyers Weekly on social media: Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. If you have any questions about what you heard today, any topics of interest you have in mind, or if you'd like to lend your voice to the show, email editor@lawyersweekly.com.au for more insights!

Duration:00:16:15

The Corporate Counsel Show: Providing advice in extraordinary legal matters

5/17/2023
As an experienced GC, David Cosgrave has learnt that — when determining legal advice in scenarios one will not see every day — appreciating the motivations of people and how to balance risk and goals will help in-house lawyers best serve their clients. On this episode of The Corporate Counsel Show, host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with longstanding general counsel, lecturer and risk governance adviser David Cosgrave about why he gravitates towards litigators when hiring for in-house roles, the importance of having a real-world understanding of risk, how to formulate advice in sensitive and/or unique legal issues and find amicable, acceptable resolutions. Mr Cosgrave details for the listeners his experiences providing advice in such extraordinary scenarios, from speaking to family members of persons on life support to athletes refusing to undergo drug tests, the unique perspective that one gleans from providing advice in such scenarios, and the overarching importance of flexibility and agility in the development of such a holistic approach to in-house life. If you like this episode, show your support by rating us or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (The Lawyers Weekly Show) and by following Lawyers Weekly on social media: Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. If you have any questions about what you heard today, any topics of interest you have in mind, or if you'd like to lend your voice to the show, email editor@lawyersweekly.com.au for more insights!

Duration:00:27:54

Why part-time lawyering works for me

5/15/2023
Working part-time as a lawyer can often be associated with caring responsibilities. However, as Meg Crawford details, there is a multitude of personal or lifestyle factors that may lead a lawyer to pursue other vocational pathways while maintaining a part-time practice — lawyers always, she believes, have such options in front of them. On this episode of The Lawyers Weekly Show, host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with Justitia Lawyers and Consultants special counsel Meg Crawford about her journey as a lawyer and the ups and downs she has experienced in her life, how those experiences have led her towards other pursuits, and how her perception of what she wanted to do vocationally has evolved over time. Ms Crawford also details what her three-day working week set-up looks like and how she makes it work with her firm, changing views on what it means to be a legal professional, how those coming through the ranks can explore part-time working arrangements with their employers if they have other pursuits in mind, shaking off traditional mindsets of the volume of work required of lawyers, and how she feels optimistic about the sustainability of her more holistic approach to her career. If you like this episode, show your support by rating us or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (The Lawyers Weekly Show) and by following Lawyers Weekly on social media: Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. If you have any questions about what you heard today, any topics of interest you have in mind, or if you'd like to lend your voice to the show, email editor@lawyersweekly.com.au for more insights!

Duration:00:24:24

The ‘fixed-rate cliff’, and other mortgage concerns

5/12/2023
Last week, the Reserve Bank of Australia made the surprise decision to increase the cash rate — the 11 time in 12 months it has done so — given that inflation isn’t coming down. The current economic landscape and subsequent property market offer much food for thought for lawyers. On this episode of The Lawyers Weekly Show, host Jerome Doraisamy welcomes back Legal Home Loans director of sales Cullen Haynes and legal lending specialist Rachael Massoud to discuss why the RBA raised the cash rate this month, the circumstances giving rise to such a decision, the challenges that lawyers looking to buy are now facing, and whether any particular demographic of lawyers is being hit hardest right now. Mr Haynes and Ms Massoud also explore the impact that rate rises are having on lawyers, how to interpret the record profits being made by the big banks at present, the “mass migration” currently being seen in the property market, and detail practical steps to take at this juncture, including refinancing, the questions to be asking one’s broker, escaping “mortgage prison”, and their advice for lawyers wanting to buy right now. If you like this episode, show your support by rating us or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (The Lawyers Weekly Show) and by following Lawyers Weekly on social media: Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. If you have any questions about what you heard today, any topics of interest you have in mind, or if you'd like to lend your voice to the show, email editor@lawyersweekly.com.au for more insights!

Duration:00:22:37

Why jobseekers should better prioritise wellness

5/11/2023
On this special episode of The Lawyers Weekly Show, produced in partnership with Naiman Clarke, we explore the myriad impacts of a high-stress environment on lawyers and why prioritising one’s health and wellbeing when seeking a new role is not only necessary but also puts one in the best position to then satisfy their vocational and financial goals. Host Jerome Doraisamy welcomes back Naiman Clarke owner and managing director Elvira Naiman to discuss why mental health concerns remain such a pertinent factor in any conversation about legal recruitment, the current state of affairs for jobseekers and how they are prioritising wellness as a consideration when looking for new legal roles. Ms Naiman also reflects on some of the new-age professional challenges and scenarios that lawyers are dealing with that both impact wellness and influence thinking about vocational pathways, how recruiters can and do look to navigate conversations about wellness with jobseekers in law, how best to perceive and navigate high-stress environments, how to present as the best possible candidate for a vacancy, and why health and wellbeing must be at the top of one’s priority list when looking for a new role in law. To learn more about Naiman Clarke, click here. If you like this episode, show your support by rating us or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (The Lawyers Weekly Show) and by following Lawyers Weekly on social media: Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. If you have any questions about what you heard today, any topics of interest you have in mind, or if you'd like to lend your voice to the show, email editor@lawyersweekly.com.au for more insights!

Duration:00:27:09