Conservative Conversations with ISI

Can economics be separated from morality? Should theological truths influence public policy? In this intellectually rich episode of Conservative Conversations, host Tom Sarrouf is joined by Philip Booth and Andre Azevedo Alves, co-authors of the new book Catholic Social Thought, the Market, and Public Policy. Is economics an independent science—or a branch of moral theology? What does Catholic social doctrine say about market systems, justice, and policymaking in our time? A must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of faith, economics, and public life.

What happens when two of the 20th century’s most formidable thinkers exchange letters about literature, culture, religion, and politics? In this episode of Conservative Conversations, classicist and scholar Eric Adler joins host Tom Sarrouf to discuss his newly released book, Humanistic Letters: The Irving Babbitt–Paul Elmer More Correspondence. Adler offers an in-depth look at the minds behind the New Humanism—a movement that profoundly shaped modern conservative thought and inspired figures like T.S. Eliot, C.S. Lewis, and Russell Kirk.

In this fascinating episode of Conservative Conversations, Tom Sarrouf sits down with Dr. Sam Pappas, CEO and co-founder of Pappas Health, to discuss the intersection of health, nutrition, and American lifestyle. As one of the leaders of MAHA, Dr. Pappas offers valuable insights into modern health practices and the importance of nutrition in maintaining well-being. Beyond his expertise in healthcare, Dr. Pappas also draws on his knowledge of the Greek world and ancient philosophy to explore how ancient wisdom can inform contemporary health practices. Together, they discuss how the lessons of the ancient world can help us navigate the challenges of modern life, from dietary habits to maintaining a balanced lifestyle in a fast-paced society.

In our conversation with historian and constitutional scholar Kevin Gutzman, host Tom Sarrouf dives deep into the formative years of John C. Calhoun—one of the most complex and controversial figures in American political history. Gutzman unpacks how Calhoun’s early experiences shaped his views on states’ rights, federalism, and republican governance. Whether you're rethinking Calhoun’s legacy or encountering it for the first time, this episode offers a thought-provoking look at the ideas that continue to echo through American politics today. #KevinGutzman #JohnCCalhoun #ConservativeConversations #AmericanHistory #ISI #Federalism

In this compelling episode of Conservative Conversations, ISI sits down with philosopher and author Jason D. Hill to explore the powerful themes behind his latest book, Letters to God From a Former Atheist. Hill shares his personal journey from staunch atheism to a profound rediscovery of God, diving into questions of morality, meaning, suffering, and the soul’s search for transcendence. Tune in for a wide-ranging discussion that bridges faith, philosophy, and cultural critique—and challenges both believers and skeptics alike.

In this insightful discussion, Marlo Slayback, Tom Sarrouf, and Jeff Bilbro delve into the life and work of Wendell Berry, exploring how his writings and philosophy laid the groundwork for the “Make America Healthy Again” movement. They examine Berry’s focus on sustainable agriculture, community-centered living, and the importance of localism in a rapidly industrialized world. Through their conversation, they reflect on how his ideas continue to challenge modern society and offer a vision for a more grounded, healthy future for America.

In this engaging conversation, Tom Sarrouf sits down with Rachel Fulton Brown, professor of Medieval History at the University of Chicago, to explore the rich intellectual world of the Middle Ages and the medieval mind. They dive into how medieval thinkers understood faith, reason, and the cosmos, shedding light on the cultural and spiritual foundations that shaped the medieval world. Dr. Fulton Brown also shares insights from her work on The Dragon Common Room, a project dedicated to bringing medieval scholarship to a wider audience. This conversation offers a fascinating look at how the medieval mindset still resonates in today’s world.

What does it mean to order our loves rightly? In this insightful conversation, Tom Sarrouf is joined by Dr. Chad Pecknold, a theologian and professor at The Catholic University of America, to explore ordo amoris—the proper ordering of love—and its profound relevance for the Catholic Church today. They dive into the roots of this concept, tracing its development through the works of Augustine and Aquinas, and discuss how disordered love impacts both individual lives and the broader culture. The conversation also touches on the crucial role the Church plays in restoring moral and social order, and why the conservative vision depends on rightly ordered affections.

Is religion inherently violent, and is secularism truly a force for peace? In this episode of Conservative Conversations, Tom Sarrouf sits down with historian and author Thomas Albert Howard to discuss the themes of his latest book, Broken Altars: Secularist Violence in Modern History. Together, they examine the complexities of religious and secular violence, the historical role of anti-religious regimes, and the different forms of secularism that have shaped the modern world. Don’t miss this deep dive into one of today’s most misunderstood debates.

In this insightful episode of Conservative Conversations, Tom Sarrouf sits down with Brian Brown, founder of the Anselm Society, to discuss the crucial role of art in shaping culture and society. They explore why conservatives should care about art and how it can be a powerful tool for preserving and promoting traditional values. Brown and Sarrouf dive into the current state of the art world—what is thriving, what is struggling, and the challenges conservatives face in engaging with the arts. They also examine the deep relationship between art and churches, discussing how sacred art can enhance worship, build community, and foster a deeper connection to faith. This conversation is a compelling look at how art can enrich our lives and how conservatives can reclaim its role in the cultural conversation.

In this engaging episode of Conservative Conversations, Tom Sarrouf sits down with historian and scholar Miles Smith to explore the transformative era of the Gilded Age and Westward Expansion. They discuss the economic growth that characterized the late 19th century, the development of new industries, and the rise of America as an economic power. Smith and Sarrouf also delve into the complexities of the relationship between the North and South during this period, examining the lasting effects of the Civil War, regional economic disparities, and the shifting political landscape. This conversation offers a deep dive into a pivotal moment in American history, unpacking the forces that shaped the nation's future and laid the groundwork for the 20th century.

In this thought-provoking episode of Conservative Conversations, Tom Sarrouf sits down with philosopher and scholar Michael Hanby to explore the evolving landscape of political thought. Together, they delve into the roots of liberalism, unpack the rise of post-liberalism, and examine the profound role of bioethics in shaping government policies. Hanby shares his insights on the increasing influence of technology in modern society and the ethical challenges it poses to human dignity and freedom. The conversation also explores the impact of Trump’s administration on the political climate, the ongoing challenge of self-governance, and the importance of virtue in sustaining a thriving republic. This wide-ranging discussion offers listeners a deep dive into the intersection of politics, technology, and ethics, with a focus on how contemporary ideas are reshaping our understanding of human life and governance.

Why does literature still matter in our modern world? In this episode, ISI’s Conservative Conversations welcomes scholar Jason Baxter to discuss his latest book, Why Literature Still Matters. Baxter explores how great literature shapes our moral imagination, cultivates wisdom, and connects us to timeless truths. From Dante to C.S. Lewis, he reveals how classic works offer profound insights into human nature, virtue, and beauty—insights that are increasingly neglected in today's culture. Join us for a thought-provoking conversation on why preserving the literary tradition is essential for the future of civilization.

Is the social contract broken? In this episode, Paul DeHart joins ISI to discuss his latest book, The Social Contract in the Ruins: Natural Law and Government by Consent. He challenges the idea that consent alone legitimizes government, exploring the role of natural law, classical philosophy, and the American Founding in shaping just governance. Get the Book Subscribe for more ISI conversations: @EducatingForLiberty

What can we learn from President William McKinley’s leadership, and how does his legacy compare to the modern political landscape? In this fascinating conversation, historian and journalist Robert W. Merry joins ISI to discuss his latest book, President McKinley: Architect of the American Century. McKinley, often overshadowed by his more flamboyant successors, was a transformational figure who reshaped America’s global role and set the stage for the 20th century. Merry breaks down McKinley’s underrated statesmanship, his approach to economic and foreign policy, and his impact on American conservatism. The discussion takes an intriguing turn as McKinley’s leadership is compared to Donald Trump—examining their similarities in political realignment, media battles, and their roles as champions of the "forgotten American."

In a world increasingly marked by isolation, instability, and cultural decay, how can families remain strong, joyful, and rooted in tradition? In this episode, we sit down with Edward Habsburg—Catholic thinker, writer, and Hungary’s ambassador to the Holy See—to discuss his new book, Building a Wholesome Family in a Broken World. Drawing from both personal experience and the time-tested wisdom of the Habsburg dynasty, Edward shares practical insights on fostering deep familial bonds, raising children with purpose, and restoring a culture of faith and virtue within the home. We explore the key pillars of a strong family life, the challenges posed by modernity, and why subsidiarity—the principle of governance closest to the family unit—is more important than ever. Join us for a conversation that blends history, faith, and humor as we uncover what it truly means to build a resilient, loving, and wholesome family in today's chaotic world. 🔔 Don’t forget to subscribe for more thought-provoking discussions with leading scholars and thinkers!

In this episode, Charles Keckler joins us to discuss regulatory reform and the growing power of the executive branch. Drawing on his experience in law and public policy, he examines how the administrative state has reshaped the balance of power and what reforms are needed to restore constitutional order. We explore the role of Congress in checking executive overreach, the challenges of regulatory agencies, and practical steps to rein in the modern administrative state. Don’t miss this timely conversation on reshaping the balance of power in American government.

Join host Tom Sarrouf as he sits down with historian and theologian Andrew Willard Jones to discuss his latest book, The Church Against the State: The Birth of Liberty in the Late Middle Ages. In this thought-provoking episode, Jones explores the fascinating historical relationship between the Church and state during the medieval period and how these tensions shaped the development of liberty as we know it today. From the sacramental vision of society under St. Louis IX to the modern misunderstandings of freedom and authority, Jones offers deep insights into the spiritual, cultural, and political implications of his research. Together, Tom and Andrew unpack how these historical lessons challenge contemporary notions of power, governance, and faith. Whether you're a student of history, a seeker of truth, or simply curious about the Church’s role in defending human dignity, this conversation will leave you with a richer understanding of how faith and politics can—and should—interact. Tune in for a compelling exploration of the past that offers fresh perspectives on the present.

In this thought-provoking episode, Frank DeVito, counsel at Napa Legal, explores the complexities of defining religion in a pluralistic society and shares his fight against the rise of Satanism and attacks on traditional values. With his unique blend of legal expertise and philosophical insight, Frank unpacks the critical role of faith in preserving freedom and the importance of standing firm against cultural and moral decline. Whether you’re passionate about defending religious liberty or seeking inspiration in today’s challenges, this episode offers compelling insights and practical guidance. More from Frank: www.napalegalinstitute.org/good-counselor-fellows/frank-devito