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Exploring Cider’s Role in Fine Dining In this episode of Cider Chat, we sit down with Chef Ivan Vautier a Michelin-starred chef from Normandy, France, to discuss his approach to pairing cider with food and incorporating it into his dishes. Normandy, as a region is renowned for its cider, Calvados and Pommeau. As such it offers a unique perspective on how this traditional beverage is used in high-end cuisine. But does cider get the attention it deserves in fine dining? The answer might surprise you. While this Michelin Chef Vautier highlights some classic applications, like poaching foie gras in cider, the conversation reveals a deeper challenge: even in cider’s heartland, it appears that cider's potential remains under appreciated in haute cuisine. Key Takeaways from a Michelin-Starred Chef Traditional Uses of CiderCritique of Heavy CuisineMissed Opportunities A Call to Action for the Cider Community This episode highlights the need for cider enthusiasts and producers to work together to elevate cider's status in fine dining. Here are some ideas discussed: Cider Education for ChefsCollaborative MenusInspiring InnovationElevating Cider’s ImageEngaging the Culinary World Why This Matters Cider is more than just a beverage—it’s a bridge between tradition and innovation. This episode sheds light on the barriers holding cider back in fine dining and offers actionable steps to move forward. By working together, producers and enthusiasts can inspire chefs to see cider not just as a drink, but as a transformative ingredient worthy of the world’s finest tables. Contact info for Ivan Vautier Websitehttps://www.ivanvautier.com/en/Address:3 Av. Henry Chéron, 14000 Caen, France Subscribe and Share Enjoyed this episode? Don’t miss more conversations like this! Subscribe to Cider Chat on your favorite podcast platform, and share this episode with friends who love cider and fine dining. Support Cider Chat: Your support helps keep these conversations flowing! Visit CiderChat.com to learn how you can help. Mentions in this Cider Chat CiderCon2025 Promo CodeIf you have a coupon, please enter code here (case-sensitive):@prairiebearsciderco@anchgergely@santacruzciderco#ciderGoingUP

Why Pair Cider with Thanksgiving Dinner? Cider is a fantastic beverage for Thanksgiving, with a range of flavors to suit savory, sweet, and spicy dishes. It’s an ideal alternative to wine or beer, bringing a refreshing acidity and fruit-forward profile that lifts and enhances Thanksgiving flavors. From crisp dry ciders to dessert-ready ice ciders, there’s a pairing for everyone at your table. Start Thanksgiving with a Cider Aperitif Opening your Thanksgiving celebration with a light cider aperitif or cocktail helps set a festive mood. Here are a few ideas to get started: Lisa Laird CranJack CocktailClassic Sparkling CiderApple-Ginger Cider Mocktail Main Course: Turkey and Vegetarian Pairings Whether your main course is turkey or a vegetarian option, cider brings out the best in savory herbs and seasonings. Here are a few pairing suggestions For Turkey Lovers Herb-Roasted Turkey with Rosemary and SagePair with:Finger LakesVermontWhy It Works:Recommended CidersAlma CiderCockrell CiderFarnum Hill Extra Dry Cider Smoked TurkeyPair with:CaliforniaNew YorkWhy It Works:Recommended CidersBent Ladder Black GoldEsso Terra Ciderworks HalcyonPresque Isle Farm 2021 Single Barrel: Esopus Spitzenburg For Vegetarian Main Dishes Mushroom Wellington or Stuffed Acorn SquashPair with:OregonWashingtonWhy It Works:Recommended Ciders:Gypsy Circus Cider/ Queen of SwordsGypsy Circus 2024 Raindancer Side Dish Pairings for Classic Thanksgiving Sides Thanksgiving sides are often seasoned with spices like sage, thyme, and cinnamon. Here’s how cider can enhance these traditional flavors: Savory Stuffing with Sage and ThymePair with:Why It Works:Recommended Ciders:Snowdrift Cider - Red Cider 2023 (500 mL) Mashed Potatoes and GravyPair with:Why It Works:Recommended Ciders:Botanist and Barrel 2022 Less is More Wild Ferment Pétillant Naturel (375ml) Roasted Brussels Sprouts with Balsamic GlazePair with:Why It Works:Recommended Ciders:Greenbench Webb City's Cellar Northern Spy Sweet Potato Casserole with Cinnamon and NutmegPair with:Why It Works:Recommended Ciders:Botanist and Barrel: Scarlet Thanksgiving Dessert: Sweet Cider Pairings Finish off your Thanksgiving feast with dessert ciders that enhance the sweet, spiced flavors of classic holiday pies and treats. Pumpkin PiePair with:VermontNew YorkWhy It Works:Recommended Ciders: Eden Specialty Ciders Heirloom Blend (Vermont)Cider Hill Cellars (Massachusetts) – Winter 12.5% Apple CrispPair with:Why It Works:Recommended Ciders:Western Cider (Montana) McIntosh Single Variety CiderJames Creek Cider House (North Carolina) Winter Solstice Cider Pecan TartPair with:Why It Works:Recommended Cider:Liberty Cider (Washington) 2023 Widdershins Apple Chocolate Pudding Pie or anything Chocalate?Recommended Cider:The Ross Cider and Perry Company Best Ciders to Buy for Thanksgiving Looking to stock up on ciders for Thanksgiving? Here are a few recommendations to suit each pairing: Finger Lakes, NYNew England:Oregon & WashingtonHudson Valley, NYCalifornia & Virginia Cider Pairs Perfectly all Year Long! Cider’s unique blend of acidity, tannins, and natural sweetness makes it the perfect drink to elevate your Thanksgiving feast and really any meal all year long. From bright aperitifs to rich dessert pairings, cider has a flavor for every dish. So this year, why not explore the flavors of Thanksgiving with cider in hand? Mentions in this Cider Chat Part 12EsoTerra CiderWorks, Indiegogo CampaignTotally Cider ToursWild Branch CiderWildCraft Cider Works

Bringing Cider to Hungary: The Story of Abaliget Orchard In this episode of Cider Chat, we learn about the southwest Hungary, where Ancha Gergely is building Abaliget Orchard Projects, her small-scale cidery focused on Hungarian apples, pears, and centuries-old varieties. Ancha’s journey began in England, where she developed a love for cider. For Hungary it appears that there is little known about cider or cider making, prompting her to craft her own. With a deep passion for apples and heritage varieties, Ancha started her orchard in 2018 by grafting local and English varieties onto Hungarian rootstock. Her husband’s contribution of English cider apple graft wood expanded the orchard significantly, leading to her current collection of 600 apple and pear varieties. Ciders at Abaliget Orchard Ancha crafts unique Hungarian ciders that highlight the region’s apple diversity. Some of her featured ciders include: FishtiBirs Apple Varieties at Abaliget Orchard Abaliget Orchard includes a mix of English, Hungarian, and other European varieties. Here are a few notable apples in her collection: KanizsaiHúsvéti RozmaringVarious Perry Pears Cider Making Techniques at Abaliget Ancha’s approach to cider-making combines traditional fermentation methods with her unique orchard composition, balancing Hungarian and English influences. In addition to cider, her nursery serves as a source for new Hungarian cider makers, offering heritage and cider-specific apple trees. Contact Info for Abaliget Orchard Projects Website:Abaliget Orchard Projects via Facebook Mentions in the Cider Chat Totally Cider ToursEsoTerra CiderworksCider Explorer review

Discovering Domaine Johanna Cécillon: A Journey of Cider, Heritage, and Terroir Johanna Cécillon and her husband, Louis Cécillon, have deep ties in the world of fermented drinks, and are now merging their wine heritage with cider-making in Brittany. Domaine Johanna Cécillon, near Dinan, honors family tradition and innovation through biodynamic farming methods. Established on family land from the 1800s, Johanna brings a refined approach to cider, embracing natural processes that reflect the land’s unique terroir. Biodynamic Practices and Natural Fermentation At Domaine Johanna Cécillon, the orchard is certified biodynamic, preserving the ecosystem and producing exceptional quality fruit. Johanna practices natural fermentation, using no added yeasts or sulfites to allow the true flavor of each apple variety to shine. A dedication to biodynamics reflects Johanna’s commitment to safe farming practices for the entire ecosystem - people, animals, plants and the environment. The Ciders of Domaine Johanna Cécillon PoiréDivonaToutatisTaranisNerios Contact Info for Domaine Johanna Cécillon Domaine Johanna Cécillon welcomes visitors by appointment to experience the ciders firsthand and enjoy a tranquil orchard tour. Purchase is available on-site, or find their ciders internationally. WebsiteDomaine Johanna Cécillon Mentions in this Cider Chat 408: Cider’s Pomological Life Coach | Know Your Roots, NY123: The Poiré Fermier - The Perry Farmer

Innovation at Cidrerie Manoir du Val: Blending Tradition and Modernity Located in Normandy’s Pays de Risle, Cidrerie Manoir du Val and with maker Marie Bourut at the helm s crafting innovative ciders with a nod to tradition. With Marie’s husband Thomas Courtoux., this couple has transformed a historic orchard. From pioneering the production of Blanc Cider (white cider) to fermenting with Sorbus Domestica via the distinctive La Cormé Cidre, the duo’s approach is reshaping the way we think about Normandy cider. In this Cider Chat Arnould Nazarian helped connect Cider Chat with Marie and was on hand during this interview and helping with the translation. Arnould’s hobby is both finding Sorbus Domestica trees and sharing his affection for this magical fruit. Listen to his two Cider Chat’s Episode 219 Sorbs Not SulfitesEpisode 220 Can Sorbus Domestica Save the World Innovations in Cider-Making at Manoir du Val One of the standout ferments at Cidrerie Manoir du Val is the development of La Cormé Cidre, a cider made with the unique Sorbus Domestica tree. This rare fruit imparts a complexity and depth of flavor that sets it apart from more traditional apple-based ciders. Marie and her husband have also crafted Blanc Cidre, a white cider made by halting the oxidation process to create a fresh, clear cider that pairs perfectly with seafood and light dishes. More Innovation! To support the orchard’s demanding harvest, Marie’s husband, Thomas, designed and built a custom machine called the Delorian. This tricked out tractor picks up apples from the ground, dramatically speeding up the harvesting process and reducing the need for manual labor. The Ciders of Cidrerie Manoir du Val Pink Cider (Rosé)La Cormé CiderBlanc CiderCalvados, Pommeau, Fresh Pressed Apple Juice and Poiré Apple Varieties at Manoir du Val Cidrerie Manoir du Val’s ciders are made from a carefully selected range of apple varieties, each chosen for its unique contribution to the cider-making process. Some of the key varieties include: La Rouge du ValLa Petit JauneChloronoDoux Vérets de CarrougeBenit RougeDouce MoenFréquinRougeMarie Menard Where to Find Cidrerie Manoir du Val Ciders Cidrerie Manoir du Val products are sold both at their farm store and in various locations throughout the Paris region, including: Chateau d’HarcourtLes Ferme de Gally If you’re ever in Normandy, visiting the cidery is a must — not only for the ciders but also for a closer look at their innovative approach to cider-making. Contact for Cidrerie Manoir du Val Website: https://www.manoirduval.fr/Address:EARL Courtoux Bourut, 960 Route du Val, Saint Aubin Le Guichard. 27410 Mesnil-en-ouche Stay Updated with Cider Chat To learn more about innovative cider makers like Marie Bourut and stay informed on the latest episodes of Cider Chat, subscribe to the podcast and the Cider Chat YouTube channel. By subscribing, you’ll be notified of upcoming episodes that focus on cider-making, so you won’t miss any of the exciting stories from the world of cider.

Find Highlights & Tips in This French Cider Tour Recap! The 2024 cider tour to Paris, Normandy, Brittany and Domfrontais was an absolute success! With guest from the United States, Canada and Hungary the makers in France did a knock out job introducing everyone to the tastes, sights, sounds and people in the region. This tour is curated and led by Ria Windcaller, the producer and host of Cider Chat Hear from the guests on the tour and they share their personal highlights, insights and experiences along the cider trail. Blending Cider with Epic Experiences! This seven night tour began in Paris, with a meet up at a cider bar and then out to Normandy on the Route du Cidre. Evening meals where paired with cider and there was both a Michelin Star Dinner with special guest Etienne Dupont and Mathieu Chevrier of Domaine Dupont. Later this same week, a cider dinner with special guest Eric Bordelet end the week perfectly! Agathe Letellier of Manoir d”Apreval joined the tour group this night and treated us all to a late night talk in the living room of the hotel! Epic Sights for This Cider Tour Recap Cider plays the lead role in this journey, but for this cider tour recap UNESCO World Heritage sights also played a big role. Hear from the guest as they mention some of their favorite tour sight seeing stops on this cider tour. Be Part of the Next Cider Tour Recap We certainly hope that you too will want to join us on the next Totally Cider Tour! Get on the Wait List to be the first to know when the next cider tour is rolling out and about to Ciderville! Send an email to info@ciderchat.com and put in the subject heading Cider Tour and we will you add you to eCiderNews list to receive early-to-know-notifications! Mentions in this Cider Chat

From Suffolk to Virginia: Stephen Schuurman’s Cider Journey In Episode 428 of Cider Chat, we meet Stephen Schuurman, owner and cider maker at Winchester Ciderworks in Winchester, Virginia. Originally from Suffolk, England, Stephen has brought his deep love of English cider to the northern portion of the Shenandoah Valley. What started as a passion project has grown into a successful business, blending English cider-making techniques with Virginia-grown apples. Ciders tasted in this Episode At Winchester Ciderworks, the focus is on producing hard ciders that are not overly sweet nor dry ciders. Expect a wide range of cider offerings and the option for a tasting flight at the Ciderhouse or go directly to the flagship cider, Malice. Malice is a classic, off-dry cider with a clean, crisp finish and just the right amount of residual sugar. Made with a blend of Virginia apples. At 6.5% ABV, it’s sessionable and easy-drinking — perfect for enjoying with friends or pairing with a meal. 522, a cider infused with black currant. Named after the road where Winchester Ciderworks was originally located, this cider blends the tartness of black currants with the brightness of local Virginia apples. At 5.9% ABV Support Cider Chat and Keep the Stories Flowing If you’re a fan of learning about the stories behind great cider makers like Stephen Schuurman, consider supporting Cider Chat. Your donations help keep the podcast on the air, allowing us to continue sharing stories from the world of cider. To help us continue to bring you these amazing episodes, hit the donate button at CiderChat.com. Contact for Winchester Ciderworks and Ciderhouse Website:https://winchesterciderworks.com/ Mentions in this Cider Chat Totally Cider Tours

Collaboration Meets Ingenuity at Heartland Ciderworks This episode is packed with insights for anyone interested in the intersection of entrepreneurship and craft cider-making. In Episode 427 of Cider Chat, Eliseo Bell-Uribe shares his story as a young entrepreneur and how and why he founded Heartland Ciderworks. Practical Advice for Cider Startups: Learning to Collaborate Starting a cidery from scratch is no easy task. The Eliseo shares practical advice on how to navigate the hurdles of zoning issues, sourcing equipment, and finding the right partnerships. By collaborating with a local winery, Heartland was able to sidestep some of the common challenges faced by new cideries, such as acquiring expensive equipment and navigating complex regulations. For budding cider makers, this episode offers a blueprint for how to creatively solve problems and make the most of available resources. Whether it’s building your own bottling setup or finding a winery willing to do custom crush, the key takeaway is to stay flexible and open to collaboration. A Closer Look at Heartland’s Ciders Heartland Ciderworks may be a young company, but their lineup of ciders is anything but ordinary. Here’s a quick look at the ciders discussed in the episode: AvalonDescription:ABV:Notes:Little AppleDescription:ABV:Notes:CooperDescription:ABV:Notes:Heart of the ValleyDescription:ABV:Notes:Olive BranchDescription:Notes:Rosé Cider (Upcoming Release)Description: Contact for Heartland Ciderworks Website: https://heartlandcw.editorx.io/hlcwPress Then Press Support Cider Chat Enjoying the stories brought to you by Cider Chat? Help keep these stories rolling out by supporting the podcast by becoming a patron. Your support helps keep the podcast on the air, allowing us to continue bringing you inspiring stories like this one. Mentions in this Cider Chat Totally Cider ToursCider Institute of North America

Discover Red Island Cider on Prince Edward Island Guest podcaster Al Saxs interviews Red Island Cider owner and maker Robert van Waarden in this episode 426 of Cider Chat. Red Island Cider is located on Canada’s reknown “Prince Edward Island” capital “Charlottetown” this cidery has helped revive the island’s apple heritage while creating unique, story-driven ciders that reflect the culture, history and spirit of the region. Whether you’re an orchardist, a cider maker, or simply a cider traveler, visiting Red Island Cider is an experience that goes beyond the glass. The Art of Crafting Ciders with Local Stories At Red Island Cider, every cider has a story. The flagship cider, Father Walker, is named after a local priest who inadvertently created a legendary batch of cider that fueled an unforgettable community gathering in at The Picnic at Groshaut 1897. The story goes that between having the apples pressed for the Groshaut picnic and the actual picnic the cider had begun to ferment. The song details the events that day as the now fermented cider was being drunk. To listen to the full song sung by Art Cahill, https://digitalcommons.library.umaine.edu/songstorysamplercollection/19/ Father Walker’s is a dry cider, made with Northern Spy, McIntosh, and Cortland apples and recently won a gold medal at the Great Lakes International Cider and Perry Competition (GLINTCAP), cementing its place as a top-tier craft cider. Another standout is Devonport, a hop cider named after a historic bar in Charlottetown known for growing its own hops in the 1830s. This cider offers a citrusy, grapefruit-forward profile that appeals to both beer drinkers and cider enthusiasts alike. Red Island’s Ghost Series is a collection of limited-edition ciders, each named after historic shipwrecks off the coast of Prince Edward Island. These ciders, draw inspiration from the tales of ships like the Conqueror and Castalia, which met their fates in the island’s treacherous waters. The Rose made with locally sourced haskap berries has a vibrant rosé hue and notes of raspberry, blueberry, and cranberry notes, is a true taste of PEI’s agricultural bounty. Loyalist Road Cider is a complex blend made from 27 different apple varieties sourced from a small orchard near Charlottetown. Contact for Red Island Cider Website: https://redislandcider.com/ Mentions in this Cider Chat French Cider Tour@spacetimemeads@puntadefierro@tomoliverscider@woodyperennialguthrie

The Showering name is synonymous with both innovation and tradition in the world of cider for the past 187 years. In this Episode 425 of Cider Chat, Nick Showering shares a bit on his family’s cider-making roots that stretch back over 400 years and in the past 180 years in the town of Shepton Mallet, Somerset, England. A Storied Legacy in Somerset The Showerings have been crafting cider in Somerset for nearly two centuries. It all began with a small pub, The Ship Inn, where cider was made and served locally. As generations passed, the family expanded their influence, eventually creating Babycham—a sparkling perry that revolutionized the beverage industry and played a key role in shaping British drinking culture in the 1950s. The playful brand with the signature reindeer brought a fresh, elegant option to women in a male-dominated pub scene. Hello Triple Vintage! Triple Vintage is made with 100% cider apples all grown in Somerset. The featured apple in this cider is Dabinett. Solera, the technique of blending different ferments, in this case three different vintages of high-tannin apples, creates a delectable cider that balances depth of flavor with an elegant finish for the Triple Vintage. Enjoy the Triple Vintage which is sold throughout the UK in fine dining establishments or online (link below) in a large stemmed red wine glass. Serve slightly chilled. The Triple Vintage comes in 375 ML bottles. What’s Next for the Showerings? With their sights set on continuing to produce fine cider and Nick Showering clearly enjoying the challenge, time will tell. For now it appears it is all about maintaining a foot in the door of the ever increasing “fine cider” category and the prospects of introducing a new generation of drinkers to the possibilities of high-quality cider…making that very good news for the industry at large. Contact for Showerings Triple Vintage Website:https://showeringscider.co.uk/products/showerings-triple-vintage-cider Mentions in this Cider Chat Episode 422 John Bunker Keynote: Orchards and LegacyEpisode 423 Apple Identification 101 John BunkerCider Chat YouTubeFrench Cider TourWoodfolk Cider,Spy Ciderworks & Distillery

Apple Phenotyping: The Tools Every Orchardist Needs In Episode 424 of Cider Chat, we dive deeper into the intricate world of apple identification, this time focusing on apple phenotyping — the art and science of describing apples by their physical characteristics. This is Part 3 of the three part series on John Bunker, renowned author, apple detective, and founder of FEDCO Trees. Expect a master class and experiential lesson as he shares his extensive experience and provides a valuable toolbox of techniques that for apple fans, cider makers and orchardist. What is Phenotyping? Apple phenotyping refers to the process of identifying and describing apples by their observable physical traits, such as size, shape, color, and texture. These characteristics, known as phenotypes, help orchardists distinguish between different apple cultivars. While apples may be genetically identical, they can exhibit slight variations based on their environment, making phenotyping a key skill for identifying and preserving apple varieties. Why is Apple Phenotyping Important? Phenotyping is more than just a way to describe apples; it’s a critical method for orchard care, especially for those looking to preserve historic and rare apple varieties. John emphasizes that understanding the nuances of the apples you grow allows you to ensure that your orchard is correctly labeled and organized. This attention to detail not only improves the quality of your cider apples but also helps preserve the legacy of historic cultivars. Phenotyping also allows orchardists to confirm apple identities in cases where DNA testing isn’t readily accessible or when historical records are incomplete. Whether you’re comparing apples from different orchards or identifying a lost variety, having a reliable set of phenotyping techniques in your toolbox is essential. Watch this entire presentation at Cider Chat YouTube The Orchardist’s Toolbox: Key Techniques for Phenotyping John encourages orchardists to keep a thorough record of the apples they grow, noting characteristics such as: Size and Shape:Color and Skin:Stem and Cavity:Calyx and Basin:Core and Seeds: These observations not only help you identify your apples but also provide insights into the health of your orchard and the quality of your cider apples. Join the Conversation on Cider Chat YouTube To see John Bunker’s full slideshow presentation on phenotyping apples and learn even more about his techniques, be sure to subscribe to the Cider Chat YouTube Channel. This episode is packed with invaluable knowledge for anyone looking to refine their skills in orchard care and apple identification. Mentions in this Cider Chat Episode 422 John Bunker Keynote: Orchards and LegacyCider Chat YouTubeFrench Cider TourCiderCon 2025

In Episode 423 of Cider Chat, we delve into the fascinating world of apple identification a.k.a. Apple Id with the one and only John Bunker, a renowned author and the c0-founder of FEDCO Trees, Maine Organic Farmers and Gardners Association (MOFGA). Hear as he shares his lifelong passion for tracking down historic apple varieties and teaching others how to preserve these treasures is truly inspiring. This presentation is part one of a two-part series on Apple ID recorded at CiderCon2024. John Alsop of Cornville, ME Hear John Bunker walking us through the intricacies of apple identification, reminding us that it’s not just about identifying a fruit — it’s about preserving history. For orchardists and cider makers, understanding the varieties in your care is a crucial part of maintaining the integrity of your orchard and the quality of your cider apples. 00:00 Introduction to Cider Chat and Apple Mysteries 01:37 John Bunker's Apple Identification Journey 04:11 The Importance of Apple Identification 10:11 Understanding Apple Trees and Grafting 21:39 Resources for Apple Identification 25:37 DNA Profiling and Apple Identification 30:12 Practical Apple Identification Scenarios 33:40 Mentors and the Black Oxford Apple 34:39 DNA Profiling and Apple Identification 37:06 The Mystery of the Canadian Strawberry 38:52 The Hunt for Lost Apples 41:36 Identifying Seedlings and Grafted Trees 45:49 Commercial Orchards and Misidentified Apples 48:47 The Role of Historical Records in Apple Identification 53:26 The Fun and Challenges of Apple Hunting 58:05 Becoming an Apple Detective 01:04:31 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Contact for John Bunker Outonthelimbapple.com Books recommended in this episode: Apples and the Art of DetectionSystemic PomologyThe American Fruit Culturist: Containing Practical Directions for the Propagation and Culture of All Fruits Adapted to the United StatesThe Fruit ManualEpisode 422 John Bunker Keynote: Orchards and LegacyCider Chat YouTubeTotally Cider Tours

New York Apple Camp Keynote Address by John Bunker In a captivating keynote from the 2023 New York Apple Camp, John Bunker, the founder of FEDCO Trees and renowned author on apple identification, shared his profound connection to the outdoors. Enjoy the Keynote by John that weaves his passion for Jazz, quotes from thought leaders and his insights on the late frost of 2023 and the community surrounding apples, cider and plants. In This Keynote Address Find 5 key areas that John bunker focused on during his speech. Subscribe to Cider Chat for Part 2 with John Bunker What is the New York Apple Camp? The camp took place for the first time ever in July of 2023. It was held at the Ashokan Camp in New York State. The Ashokan Center is an independent music & nature nonprofit established in 2008. The musical history of this camp was a perfect fit for John’s keynote which also featured many references to musicians and songs. Mentions in this Cider Chat 374: NY Apple Camp News! Bonus Cider Chat Live on NY Apple Camp380: The Legacy of the Downing Brothers: Architects of Nature388: French Origins of American Apples | The Grand-Mères385: Cider’s Ki – RemixFrench Cider Tour 2024

Eli Shanks' of Punta de Fierro Fine Cider In this episode meet Eli Shanks, a passionate cider maker sharing his journey from urban Massachusetts to the picturesque landscapes of Chile, where he co-founded Punta de Fierro Cider. Eli developed an early interest in food systems and agriculture with influences from attending The Farm School, working at The Food Project and running an orchard in Concord, Massachusetts. The History of Cider in Chile Chile has a rich tradition in fermenting apples into cider. Historically, cider production was a significant part of the local economy. Families were taxed based on their cider tank space, and cider apples were a staple in many homes. Chilean cider, known as "Chicha", is a farmhouse product with various local recipes, often fermented naturally with residual sugar. Organizations and Collaborations Eli has co-founded the Chilean Cider Collective (COSIGI), which aims to preserve and promote Chile’s unique cider heritage. COSIGI works closely with the Department of Agriculture and other local organizations to support cider makers and enhance cider production quality. Chilean Ciders Tasted in this Episode Punta de FierroTenCai SidraRene Galindo All the ciders were feremented dry and are delicious! Contact Info for Punta de Fierro Website:https://puntadefierro.com/ Contact Info for TenCai Sidra Websitehttps://tencaisidra.cl/ Mentions in this Cider Chat #xpromoteciderciderGoingUP Campaign page

Basque Cheesecake and Santa Cruz Cider Cider Chat Live brings you a tasting of a celebratory cider from Santa Cruz Cider Company paires with a what is called Basque Cheesecake! Basque Cheesecake is much less dense than classic New York cheesecake. It is crustless, and has a golden, beautiful caramelized exterior. It also has a much lighter texture and flavor. The cheesecake is baked at a high temperature in order to get that burnt exterior and super creamy interior. In this Live on Cheesecake and Cider from Santa Cruz! This mini episode came about when Nicole Todd who cofounded Santa Cruz Cider Company in California with her sister Natalie. Nicole was traveling east to Maine with fellow book club members who she has been meeting monthly since covid kicked off in 2020. They spent the evening with Ria, went for a swim to avoid the heat and drank copious amounts of cider and ended the evening with a special pairing of the 10 year anniversary cider with the Basque Cheesecake. Hear about this anniversary cider and how it all started with foraged fruit in the Monterey Bay area of California. It is one part picking up fruit that turned into a relationship with an older orchardist in the Watsonville area of California. Listen to past episodes with Nicole: 060: Nicole Todd | Santa Cruz Cider Company, CA280: Why the Cider Maker Wears Fuzzy Slippers Contact for Santa Cruz Cider Company Website:https://santacruzciderco.com/

Wooden Gate: From Farm to Cidery with Clint Caver Clint Cavers and his wife Pamela have been farming for over 30 years at Wooden Gate The Farm and cidery is based in Pilot Mound, Manitoba, Canada which is right over the border of North Dakato. Clint’s journey from hobby fermenter to full-time cider maker now represents 95% of their farm’s focus. Initially homesteaders, they shifted towards cider making due to a passion for fermentation. Clint began making wine and cider about 25 years ago, initially with fruit wines before discovering the potential of apples. The Shift to Full-Time Cider Making In 2018, Clint and Pam decided to turn their cider-making hobby into a business. By 2019, Wooden Gate obtained its official license, and in 2020, it became a full-time venture. This shift was motivated by their desire for a less labor-intensive activity and a need for fulfilling work after their children left home. Orchard and Apple Varieties Wooden Gate’s orchard spans seven acres with about 800 trees, including winter-hardy varieties like They have also planted heritage varieties and some English cider apple varieties like Dabinette. Cider Production and Techniques Clint emphasizes slow fermentation at low temperatures, with some fermentations lasting up to six months. Wooden Gate primarily uses cultured yeast, but experiments with wild ferments, particularly in their Orchard Queen cider. They produce about 50 cases of Orchard Queen annually and 300 gallons of other cider varieties. Community and Events Wooden Gate hosts various events, including an annual cider release and pop-up pizza and cider nights. Their son-in-law, a chef, handles the cooking, while their daughter plans events. They also groom cross-country ski trails in the winter, turning them into walking trails in the summer. Five Core Principles of Wooden Gate Contact Info for Wooden Gate Cider Website:https://louisemb.com/m/wooden-gate-cider Mentions in this Cider Chat @spacetimemeads@woodengatecider@cultivarcreativestudioListen to episode 190 Cider Revitalizes a 1750 Colonial Era Orchard | MAStone Cow Brewery

Paving a Path for Cider Branding at Cultivar Meet Kirk Evans, the founder of Cultivar Creative. In this episode, Kirk shares his journey from a casual cider maker to a professional brand designer specializing in cider packaging and identity. Cultivar Creative focuses on creating comprehensive brand identities that go beyond just a logo. Kirk emphasizes the importance of a cohesive brand voice, graphical elements, and a well-thought-out brand guideline to ensure consistency across all marketing materials. His approach ensures that even small cider brands can present themselves professionally and attractively to consumers. The Journey to Cider Branding at Cultivar Kirk’s journey into the cider world began in early 2020 when he decided to try making cider at home. What started as a hobby quickly turned into an obsession, leading him to a career shift. With his extensive experience in design and marketing, Kirk saw a gap in the cider industry for specialized branding services. Thus, Cultivar Creative was born. The Importance of Brand Identity According to Kirk, brand identity in the cider industry involves more than just a logo. It encompasses everything from the brand’s voice to the graphical elements used in packaging. A strong brand identity helps cider makers communicate their story effectively and stand out on crowded shelves. Kirk’s process includes creating detailed brand guidelines that outline all aspects of the brand’s visual and verbal identity. This comprehensive approach ensures that every piece of marketing material aligns with the brand’s core message and appeals to its target audience. Branding Tips for Cider Makers Know Your Brand:Be Bold:Consistency is Key:Invest in Packaging: Contact Info for Cultivar Website:https://cultivarcreative.com/ Mentions in this Cider Chat French Cider Tour 2024@spacetimemeads@sraml_machinery@degerdenner@3dogciderbrewstillery@hardciderguy

Celebrating an Agricultural Legacy and the New England Apple Association The New England Apple Association (NEAA), a venerable institution supporting apple growers across the New England states, will be closing its doors at the end of this fiscal year on June 30, 2024. This announcement, delivered by the NEAA's Executive Director, Russell Steven Powell, marks the end of an 89-year legacy dedicated to promoting and supporting the region’s apple industry. Hear Powell on Episode 245 present Apples of New England to the Amherst Historical society: a companion YouTube video of this informative presentation The History of New England Apple Association The NEAA, originally established in 1935 as the New York and New England Apple Institute, has played a pivotal role in the apple industry. The organization has evolved through the decades, reflecting changes in the industry and market dynamics. It became the Northeast Macintosh Growers Association in 1993 after New York established its own marketing organization and was eventually renamed the New England Apple Association. Contributions and Challenges Under the leadership of Russell Steven Powell, who has served as the Executive Director since 1997, the NEAA has been instrumental in various advocacy efforts, marketing campaigns, and educational initiatives aimed at supporting New England apple growers. Powell, an author of two acclaimed books on apples, “America’s Apple” and “Apples of New England,” has been a prominent figure in the organization, driving its mission forward. Despite its contributions, the NEAA has faced significant challenges in recent years. Changes in the New England apple industry, a shift from wholesale markets to retail orchards, and the rise of diversified attractions such as pick-your-own, bakeries, and tasting rooms have impacted the organization's traditional business model. This shift, while beneficial for many orchards, appears to have presented a challenge for the NEAA, ultimately leading to the decision to close. The Impact and Future of Apples in New England The closure of the NEAA is a significant loss for the New England apple community. The association has been a valuable resource for apple growers and enthusiasts, providing information on apple varieties, orchard locations, and industry developments. The NEAA's contributions to the agricultural heritage of New England will be remembered fondly. As we reflect on this bittersweet moment, it is crucial to acknowledge the dedication and hard work of individuals like Russell Stevens Powell and the many volunteers who have supported the NEAA over the years. Their efforts have left an indelible mark on the apple industry in New England. Supporting Local Agriculture The closure of the NEAA underscores the importance of supporting local agricultural organizations and initiatives. As Al Sax, who joins Cider Chat Host Ria Windcaller in this episode and is a lifelong champion of apple cider making and education, highlights in this episode, the sustainability of local agriculture depends on active participation and support from the community. Organizations like the American Cider Association, state-level cider guilds, and other regional agricultural groups play a vital role in promoting and preserving our agricultural heritage. Vote With Your Dollars Al discussed how he makes his money count by, "voting with your dollars." This philosophy underscores the importance of using our financial choices to support the organizations and causes we believe in. By purchasing memberships, donating, and buying products from local orchards and agricultural associations, we can directly impact their sustainability and success. Al practices what he preaches, supporting CiderChat and other agricultural initiatives that align with his passion for apples and cider. His commitment serves as a reminder that our spending habits can make a meaningful difference in preserving and promoting the...

Crank the Bach & Go Boating with Green Bench in Hand Brian Wing of Green Bench Mead and Cider is a classical music fan. Green Bench is located in Saint Petersburg, Florida and Brian was recently on episode 398 which is a must listen. Usually, we wait a bit here at Cider Chat Central to have a guest back on, but when a delivery of cider arrived from Brian, with 4 select bottles, the opportunity arose once again have a chat. Single Varietals to Bach Chamber Blends Black TwigAn Earthy Delight Redfield: The Rosé of Ciders Malus: A Flagship Cider 401: Celebrity Chef Brian Duffy | Cider Pairing Tips Chaconne: A High Acid Symphony Listen to Johann Sebastian Bach’s Violinist Jascha Heifetz is featured via the link below https://archive.org/details/chaconne-d-moll-heifetz Contact for Green Bench Brewing, Mead & Cider Websitehttps://www.greenbenchbrewing.com/mead-cider398: Cider in Florida? Visit Green Bench Brewing, Mead & Cider Mentions in this Cider Chat PA Cider Fest French Cider Tour 2024@spacetimemeadsSocial Scranton@degerdenner@tomoliverscider@ciderexplorer@thompsons_brood

What exactly are Cider Hybrids Exploring Cider Hybrids and Co-ferments as recored at a panel discussion at CiderCon 2024. The terminology for this category is still developing, reflecting the innovative and experimental nature of these beverages. As producers continue to explore and create unique blends and co-ferments, the language will evolve to better capture the diversity and creativity inherent in these new cider expressions. In this episode of Cider Chat Delve into the innovative and creative world of cider hybrids and co-ferments with a panel of expert cider makers from around the globe to discuss the nuances, challenges, and joys of creating these unique beverages. The discussion opens with a brief introduction to the panelists: Panelist Questions on the topic of Cider Hybrids Contact Information for Speakers: Riley’s CideryOliver’s Cider and PerryEpisode 366Occam CiderPomologikEpisode 399 Kalche Wine CooperativeRevel CiderEpisode 405 Mentions in this Cider Chat PA Cider Fest Locust Grove Brewing CompanyFrench Cider Tour 2024@degerdenner@Berkshire_Cider@deansbeanscoffeeAlbemarle Cider Works@lapommelie