The Lukie Boxing Podcast

Dakota is back! Timestamps 0:00 Oscar De La Hoya and Canelo Alvarez feud 3:20 Canelo-Munguia undercard thoughts 8:00 We Love Stanionis-Maestre 11:30 Canelo vs. Jaime Munguia Preview 21:15 Ryan Garcia's drug test stuff 27:45 A quick conversation on Vergil Ortiz Jr. 30:00 Final thoughts

In this episode, I am joined by Adam Noble-Forcey, who writes for BoxingScene and ProBox TV as well has a channel @4cSportsMedia You can follow Adam on X at https://twitter.com/Adam4cSports We recap the massive news of Ryan Garcia upsetting Devin Haney. 0:00 Devin Haney-Ryan Garcia thoughts 29:00 Preview of the weekend - Jose Ramirez-Rances and Peter McGrail

In this episode, I am joined by FightsATW.com boss, Abraham Gonzalez (also my close friend). We talk about the following subjects 0:00 Jared Anderson's performance against Ryad Merhy 7:07 Efe Ajagba vs. Guido Vianello thoughts 14:00 Top Rank Undercard Notable Stuff 18:51 Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia PPV Preview 31:48 PPV Undercard Thoughts

A show on the latest boxing topics. 0:00 Richardson Hitchins vs Gustavo Lemos 17:00 Diego Pacheco vs Shawn McCalman 26:05 Skye Nicolson wins a world title 38:00 Galal Yafai 45:00 Jared Anderson vs. Ryad Merhy preview 5:00 Efe Ajagba vs. Guido Vianello, 10 rounds, heavyweights 57:00 Top Rank Ruben Villa IV Rant, Robson Conceicao, Charly Suarez vs. Luis Coria, Abdullah Mason vs. Ronal Ron, 8 rounds 01:00:40 Jordan Gill vs. Zelfa Barrett, 12 rounds, junior lightweights 01:03:40 Ellie Scotney vs. Segolene Lefebvre 01:06:30 Rhiannon Dixon vs. Karen Elizabeth Carabajal 01:07:30 Listener Questions

Thoughts on the PBC Prime Video PPV 0:00 Tim Tszyu vs. Sebastian Fundora thoughts 16:15 Isaac Cruz vs. Rolando Romero 20:00 Erislandy Lara vs. Michael Zerafa 25:00 Julio Cesar Martinez vs Angelino Cordova 29:10 Serhii Bohachuk vs Brian Mendoza 31:10 Curmel Moton thoughts 34:45 Oscar Valdez vs. Liam Wilson 39:30 Seniesa Estrada vs. Yokasta Valle 45:00 The story of the night

This weekend was void of a lot of boxing action. The gang will talk about Dalton Smith's win over Jose Zepeda, Sandy Ryan stopping Terri Harper, and Campbell Hatton losing for the first time as a pro. We also discuss Masanori Rikiishi stopping Michael Magnesi in the twelfth and final round. Then we get to the good stuff.... On Saturday, the first-ever Prime Video PPV Tim Tszyu vs. Sebastian Fundora Rolando Romero vs. Isaac “Pitbull” Cruz Erislandy Lara vs. Michael Zerafa Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Angel Cordova Elijah Garcia vs. Kyrone Davis Serhii Bohachuk vs. Brian Mendoza Curmel Moton vs. Anthony Cuba Justin Viloria vs. Erick Garcia On DAZN Arsen Goulamirian vs. Gilberto “Zurdo” Ramirez Alexis Rocha vs. Fredrick Lawson Ricardo Sandoval vs. Carlos Buitrago Santiago Dominguez vs. Jose Sanchez Joel Iriarte vs. Jonatan Godoy On Friday, Top Rank card on ESPN Oscar Valdez vs. Liam Wilson Seniesa Estrada vs. Yokasta Valle Raymond Muratalla vs. Xolisani Ndongeni Lindolfo Delgado vs. Carlos Sanchez Emiliano Vargas vs. Nelson Hampton On ProBox TV Joseph Adorno vs. Nicholas Walters Jesus Saracho vs. Starling Castillo On DAZN Juan Carrillo vs. Quinton Rankin Shohjahon Ergashev vs. Juan Huertas Vladimir Shishkin vs. Mike Guy Overtime on DAZN Elijah Pierce vs. Arthur Villanueva Haven Brady vs. Waldemir Areizaga 0:00 Dalton Smith vs Jose Zepeda 10:20 Sandy Ryan vs Terri Harper 16:02 Campbell Hatton’s first loss 18:30 Masanori Rikiishi stopping Michael Magnesi 20:50 Tim Tszyu vs. Sebastian Fundora 29:00 Rolando Romero vs. Isaac “Pitbull” Cruz 33:20 Erislandy Lara vs. Michael Zerafa 36:13 Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Angel Cordova 40:00 Elijah Garcia vs. Kyrone Davis 42:07 Serhii Bohachuk vs. Brian Mendoza 44:45 Curmel Moton vs. Anthony Cuba / Justin Viloria vs. Erick Garcia 46:00 Arsen Goulamirian vs. Gilberto “Zurdo” Ramirez 49:30 Alexis Rocha vs. Fredrick Lawson 51:30 Oscar Valdez vs. Liam Wilson 56:00 Seniesa Estrada vs. Yokasta Valle 01:00:00 Raymond Muratalla vs. Xolisani Ndongeni / Lindolfo Delgado vs. Carlos Sanchez/ 01:03:00 Joseph Adorno vs. Nicholas Walters 01:05:00 Fabio Wadley vs Frazer Clarke 01:08:00 Information for hardcore fight fans 01:12:00 Deontay Wilder vs ‘Big Bang’ Zhang

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Another week, another pod. In this episode, we talk about Anthony Joshua knocking out Francis Ngannou, what does it mean for the sport as whole. We also talk about Joseph Parker, Rey Vargas-Nick Ball, Israil Madrimov and subtle observations of #knockoutchaos. We have a brief discussion on the Eye of the Tiger card on ESPN+ and a sneaky great All-Star Boxing card that happened on Friday night on ESPN+. This week we preview the following Radivoje Kalajdzic vs. Sullivan Barrera, Luke Santamaria vs. Nicklaus Flaz, Marques Valle vs. Raul Garcia, Kelvin Davis vs. Danis Castillo, and Vershaun Lee vs. Luis Vega. An Australian fight worth-noting Sam Goodman vs. Mark Schleibs. 360 Promotions will have a card on UFC Fight Pass headlined by Callum Walsh vs. Dauren Yeleussinov. The biggest card of the week, William Zepeda vs. Maxi Hughes, an IBF/WBA lightweight eliminator, Floyd Schofield vs. Esteuri Suero and Marlen Esparza vs. Gabriela Alaniz, for Esparza’s WBC/WBO/WBA women’s flyweight title Also, two fights in the Bay Area. G-Squad Entertainment will there promotion. They have a card headlined by Gabe Flores Jr versus Julian Rodarte, and Fernando Vargas Jr versus Brad Solomon. We also talk about Westside Promotions card in Redwood City, California. That card will feature Vic Pasillas, Tommy Hyde, and Petr Khamukov vs. Vaughn Alexander. Timestamps 0:00 Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou recap 15:21 Canelo vs Jaime Munguia preview 27:00 Joseph Parker, a great heavyweight 38:00 Rey Vargas vs. Nick Ball preview 44:30 Israil Madrimov new champion 49:55 Thoughts on the broadcast 59:00 Ryan Garcia’s meltdown 01:07:00 Eye of the Tiger and All Star Boxing ESPN+ cards 01:14:30 William Zepeda vs Maxi Hughes preview 01:24:00 undercard Floyd Schofield and Marlen Esparza

In this episode, we talk a series of boxing related topics from the evening. Included - Amanda Serrano not fighting, Jake Paul stops Ryan Bourland, Jonathan 'La Bomba' Gonzalez wins a close fight over Rene Santiago. Plus, the Top Rank world title fights with Otabek Kholmatov versus Raymond Ford, and Luis Alberto Lopez vs Reiya Abe. We finish the show with a preview of Anthony Joshua versus Francis Ngannou. 0:00 Intro 0:30 Raymond Ford vs. Otabek Kholmatov 15:00 Jake Paul and Ryan Garcia 18:48 Troy Isley 23:00 Luis Alberto Lopez vs. Reiya Abe 31:30 Top Rank Undercard Thoughts 43:00 Amanda Serrano situation 51:38 Jake Paul vs Ryan Bourland 01:06:40 Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou 01:08:30 ‘Big Bang’ Zhang vs Joseph Parker 01:10:40 Other Undercard Fights

In this episode, we talk about the latest topics in the sport of boxing 0:00 Intro 0:45 Edgar Berlanga vs Padraig McCrory Recap 7:10 Berlanga vs Canelo 09:30 Andy Cruz Recap 18:00 Shakhram Giyasov Recap 21:00 Antonio Vargas-Jonathan Rodriguez Recap - a classic 24:30 Yankiel Rivera 26:00 Berlanga a dirty fighter? 31:10 Joseph Fernandez defeated Aaron Aponte 33:48 Junto Nakatani vs Alexandro Santiago Recap 37:30 Takuma Inoue vs. Jerwin Ancajas Recap 39:00 Kosei Tanaka thoughts 41:00 Otabek Kholmatov vs Ray Ford on ESPN 51:00 Storytime with Lukie 57:00 Luis Alberto Lopez vs Reiya Abe Recap 01:02:00 Undercard thoughts - Brian Norman Jr. vs. Janelson Bocachica, Duke Ragan vs. Brandon Valdes, Rohan Polanco vs. Tarik Zaina, Troy Isley vs. Marcos Hernandez, and Floyd Diaz vs. Edwin Rodriguez. 01:04:40 Nico Ali Walsh vs. Luke Iannuccilli 01:09:00 Duke Ragan thoughts 01:11:00 Amanda Serrano vs. Nina Meinke Preview 01:15:00 Jake Paul vs. Ryan Bourland Preview 01:23:00 Canelo vs David Benavidez thoughts 01:27:00 Rohan Polanco thoughts

This weekend might not have had the biggest names, but we had an action-packed Friday night. We saw Adrian Curiel vs. Sivenathi Nontshinga II, which could be a sleeper for fight of he year. Mauricio Lara looked average, 'Ricky' Perez beating Joseph Diaz Jr., O'Shaquie Foster outpoints Abraham Nova, Andres Cortes looks like he is one fight away from a big fight and Bruce Carrington is a break-out star. This week we have the return of Edgar Berlanga against undefeated Padraig McCrory on DAZN. Andy Cruz vs. Brayan Zamarripa will be a ten-round lightweight fight. Shakhram Giyasov vs. Pablo Cesar Cano, for the WBA welterweight eliminator Antonio Vargas vs. Jonathan Rodriguez, for the WBA bantamweight eliminator ESPN+ - Saturday AM Alexandro Santiago vs. Junto Nakatani - for Santiago's WBC bantamweight title. Takuma Inoue vs. Jerwin Ancajas, 12 rounds for Inoue's WBA bantamweight vacant belt Kosei Tanaka vs. Christian Bacasegua for vacant WBO junior bantamweight title I am a live at UFC Fight Pass for 360 Boxing Promotions. Gor Yeritsyan vs. Quinton Randall in a ten-round welterweight fight Cain Sandoval vs. Javier Molina is a sneaky good bout as well. Tuesday Salita Promotions will have a card Ardreal Holmes Jr. vs. Marlon Harrington - a junior middleweight fight. Ali Izmailov vs. Britton Norwood - a light heavyweight fight. Timestamps 0:00 O’Shaquie Foster vs Abraham Nova Fight Week Recap 8:30 The Star of Bruce Carrington 17:58 Andres Cortes is impressive 24:00 O’Shaquie Foster versus Abraham Nova Recap 32:00 Joseph Diaz Jr vs Jesus ‘Ricky’ Perez Recap 39:00 Adrian Curiel vs. Sivenathi Nontshinga II 44:00 Edgar Berlanga vs Padraig McCrory Preview 54:00 Undercard thoughts - standout fight - Shakhram Giyasov vs. Pablo Cesar Cano 55:30 Alexandro Santiago vs Junto Nakatani Preview 57:00 Outro

In this show we discuss the latest issues in boxing. 0:00 Intro 0:20 Teofimo Lopez vs Jamaine Ortiz Recap 33:15 Keyshawn Davis vs Jose Pedraza Recap 38:17 Abdullah Mason thoughts 41:00 Charlie Sheehy thoughts 42:00 Rene Tellez vs George Acosta recap 42:40 Alan Garcia thoughts 43:30 Joseph Diaz Jr vs Jesus ‘Ricky’ Perez preview 47:20 O’Shaquie Foster vs. Abraham Nova Preview 50:30 Andres Cortes vs. Bryan Chevalier Preview 52:24 Bruce “Shu Shu” Carrington vs. Bernard Torres Preview 54:10 Guido Vianello vs. Moses Johnson preview 55:05 Tiger Johnson vs. Paulo Galdino preview 58:00 Adrien Curiel vs. Sivenathi Nontshinga preview 59:30 Mauricio Lara returns

Show Notes 0:00 Intro 0:15 Conor Benn vs Pete Dobson Recap 13:25 Khalil Coe vs Juan Gerardo Osuna Recap 21:00 Austin ‘Ammo’ Williams vs Armel Mbumba-Yassa Recap 25:00 Johnny Fisher vs Dmytro Bezus Recap 27:00 George Lillard vs Andrew Buchanan Recap 28:00 Joshua Buatsi vs Dan Azeez Recap 35:00 Caroline Dubois & Benjamin Whittaker Thoughts 36:50 Angelo Leo vs Mike Plania Recap 39:30 Tyson Fury out of the Oleksandr Usyk fight… 46:00 Teofimo Lopez vs. Jamaine Ortiz Preview 53:00 Keyshawn Davis vs. Jose Pedraza Preview 59:45 Abdullah Mason vs. Benjamin Gurment preview 01:01:30 Javier Martinez vs. Raul Salomon preview 01:03:00 Charlie Sheehy vs. Abdel Sauceda 01:03:30 Alan Garcia vs. Tomas Ornelas preview, Art Barrera Jr. vs. Michael Portales preview, and my favorite fight - George Acosta vs. Rene Tellez Giron 01:05:10 Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams Preview 01:06:20 Sam Noakes vs. Lewis Sylvester Preview 01:07:40 Anthony Yarde vs. Marko Nikolic Preview 01:09:00 Outro questions

We will be joined by Brook Sibrian, who got a stoppage on the 360 Boxing Promotions on January 27th. Boxxer show [Saturday, February 3rd, Peacock] - Joshua Buatsi vs. Dan Azeez - Adam Azim vs. Enoch Poulsen - Caroline Dubois vs. TBA - Ben Whittaker vs. Khalid Graidia Matchroom show [Saturday, February 3rd, DAZN] - Conor Benn vs. Pete Dobson - Austin Williams vs. Connor Coyle - Johnny Fisher vs. Dmytro Bezus - Khalil Coe vs. Gerardo Osuna - George Liddard vs. Andrew Buchanan - Jimmy Sains vs. TBA Friend of the show, Chordale Booker fights Greg Vendetti Timestamps 0:00 Brook Sibrian Intro 1:00 Amateur background 6:00 Life story 8:00 Roman ‘Chocolatio’ Gonzalez stories 12:30 Jose Zamora Soto, out of Lee Espinoza’s Coach Valley Boxing Boxing Gym 14:36 What do you want out of the sport 15:30 How long do you see your pro career lasting 16:03 Who do you want and do you want to move fast? 17:01 Future Promotion Opportunties 21:00 Balancing two jobs including working at Wall Street Journal 24:00 Where to follow her 26:30 Kenshiro Teraji vs Carlos Canizales recap 32:00 Jaime Munguia vs John Ryder 37:00 Jaime Munguia vs Canelo 37:45 Gabriela Fundora-Christina Cruz stoppage 41:20 ProBox TV’s card tonight Angelo Leo vs. Mike Plania, Christopher Pearson vs. Trevor McCumby, Romero Duno vs. Antonio Moran 43:00 DAZN MVP Card Ashton Sylve returns, Maricela Cornejo 45:00 Jake Paul vs Ryan Bourland preview 49:10 Conor Benn vs. Pete Dobson preview 57:23 Khalil Coe vs. Gerardo Osuna 01:00:30 Austin Williams fights 01:01:30 Johnny Fisher vs. Dmytro Bezus, George Liddard vs. Andrew Buchanan 01:02:21 Joshua Buatsi vs Dan Azeez Preview 01:04:21 Adam Azim vs. Enoch Poulsen, Caroline Dubois, and Ben Whittaker vs. Khalid Graidi 01:05:53 Chordale Booker fights Greg Vendetti

We are joined by the founder and CEO of FightsATW.com as we talk about a few topical boxing issues including #PBConAmazonPrime #TszyuThurman timestamps 0:00 Intro 0:37 Thoughts on Kenshiro Teraji vs Carlos Canizales 9:20 Tim Tszyu vs Keith Thurman Preview - announced for March 30th on Amazon Prime PPV 12:40 Why hasn't Jermell Charlo fought Tim Tszyu? 14:00 Old boxing heads complain about young people...a rant. 15:30 Rolando Romero, Ryan Garcia, Isaac Cruz, and the stuff that went on 18:00 The event nature of PBC similar to concerts 22:00 Fighters are not fighting often enough to become stars 25:00 Saudi Arabia's price model for PPV, does it impact the PBC pay-per-view price model 27:42 Abe loves WWE so here is a Royal Rumble preview

In this episode, we are joined by a special guest. Stephanie Chavez, who fights February 10th, against Haley Pasion as a part of a card put on by CBN Promotions. We also talk about the recent ProBox TV card as well as Natasha Jonas versus Mikaela Mayer. #jonasmayer The ProBox TV bouts we will highlight are mainly Luis Feliciano vs. Mykquan Williams, and Freudis Rojas vs. Cristian Baez. Preview of the coming week We finish the show off with a conversation around the upcoming Golden Boy Promotions fight between Jaime Munguia and John Ryder. If Munguia wins does he get Canelo? #MunguiaRyder #MunguiaCanelo Other fighters featured on the DAZN telecast are Oscar Collazo, Darius Fulghum, and Gabriela Fundora. Tuesday in Japan we have an early morning card featuring two great fights on ESPN+ Kenshiro Teraji vs. Carlos Canizales and Artem Dalakian vs. Seigo Yuri Akui ESPN+ will also have a Thursday night regional card that we talk about featuring Erik Bazinyan vs. Billi Facundo Godoy, Albert Ramirez vs. Artur Ziyatdinov, 10 rounds, light heavyweights, Steve Claggett vs. Marcos Barraza, and Mary Spencer vs. Sonya Dreiling. Timestamps 0:00 Stephanie Chavez interview 25:00 Natasha Jonas vs. Mikaela Mayer recap 38:00 Kari’s Artingstall and undercard highlights 45:00 Kenshiro Teraji vs. Carlos Canizales 49:11 Artem Dalakian vs. Seigo Yuri Akui 53:00 Erik Bazinyan, Albert Ramirez, Steve Claggett and Mary Spencer 54:49 Canelo vs Jermall Charlo 59:00 Jaime Munguia vs. John Ryder, 12 rounds, super middleweights 01:09:00 Oscar Collazo vs. Reyneris Gutierrez 01:10:00 Darius Fulghum vs. Alantez Fox 01:12:35 Gabriela Fundora vs. Christina Cruz 01:14:38 David Picasso Romero 01:15:50 Lewis Crocker vs. Jose Felix 01:18:00 Cheavon Clarke, Paddy Donovan 01:22:00 Mykquan Williams vs Luis Feliciano

In this podcast, we recap the Artur Beterbiev-Callum Smith fight as well as have middleweight Ian Green on the podcast to talk about his spot in the sport. We also briefly talk about Tasha Jonas versus Mikaela Mayer, which is the major fight of next weekend. #BeterbeivSmith #JonasMayer #toprankboxing timestamps 0:00 Ian Green interview 0:20 Talks middleweight division as of now. 12:05 Talks winning on the B-side 14:40 How he has dealt with depression 21:00 Signing with Don King, Adrien Broner 24:45 Who are the top middleweights of the next three-to-four years 26:35 Would he fight a prospect given his status 27:50 He wants to fight Elijah Garcia 29:00 Talks about the favoritism 32:30 He is living his own movie 44:38 Artur Beterbiev vs Callum Smith thoughts 46:15 Ian Green final thoughts 48:17 Ian Green talks Christian Mbilli 54:10 Ian Green talks about his style in the ring 01:03:00 Artur Beterbiev vs Callum Smith 01:09:45 Artur Beterbiev vs Dmitry Bivol 01:17:00 Christian Mbilli Thoughts 01:20:00 Jason Moloney vs Saul Sanchez recap 01:26:55 Imam Khataev 01:29:30 Natasha Jonas vs. Mikaela Mayer preview

Dakota was unable to join this week, but we are joined by our friend @GFunkyBoxing has a great YouTube channel. In this episode, we talk about Vergil Ortiz's return to the ring against Fredrick Lawson on the January 6th DAZN card promoted by Golden Boy Promotions. Ismael Barroso humiliates Ohara Davies en route to winning the WBA interim junior welterweight title. Arnold Barboza Jr., and Raul Curiel win in separate bouts. Oh, and Jose Ramirez signs with Golden Boy Promotions. We also preview the light heavyweight world title fight between Artur Beterbiev and Callum Smith on ESPN, on January 13th. Undercard bouts worth seeing, Jason Moloney defending his title against Saul Sanchez, Imam Khataev my breakout fighter of the year, and Christian Mbilli in a marquee spot. Here are the timestamps for the episode. 0:00 intro 0:30 Vergil Ortiz stops Fredrick Lawson 5:15 Vergil Oritz vs Tim Tszyu? 12:15 Ismael Barroso stops Ohara Davies 18:00 Rolando Romero 22:45 Ryan Garcia now wants to fight Rollies, and not Devin Haney 37:05 Bernard Hopkins-Bill Haney altercation 41:00 Arnold Barboza Jr’s Golden Boy debut 45:40 Raul Curiel 48:21 Jose Ramirez to Golden Boy Promotions 58:18 Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou 01:07:20 Artur Beterbiev vs Callum Smith 01:13:40 Christian Mbilli returns to action 01:16:35 Imam Khataev 01:18:00 Jason Moloney vs. Saul Sanchez 01:21:50 outro

Hey there, I am lazy, it is a holiday. We start the show with a 17-minute podcast that will be on my Substack every Wednesday. It is for members only and has a small fee. If you enjoy it, please consider joining to listen to it weekly. You can also get a free fight week schedule on Tuesdays, and recaps of the fight week action on Sundays as well. Link to substack here. In this episode, we talk about the boxing awards of 2023. The highs and a few lows. We conclude with a brief conversation about Vergil Ortiz's return to the ring on January 6th, which is a DAZN telecast.

In this podcast we explore the depths of the only card this week - #DayofReckoning from Saudi Arabia. The lead is simple - Joseph Parker beat Deontay Wilder. This is followed by Anthony Joshua looking incredible. Other notable results, Dmitry Bivol's return against Lyndon Arthur, Daniel Dubois defeating Jarrell 'Big Baby' Miller, Frank Sanchez and Filip Hrgovic return in meaningless fights, and Jai Opetaia, a fringe star. Matchmaker Lukie gives some thoughts on the heavyweight division. What to do next - hint hint, Anthony Joshua vs. 'Big Bang' Zhang (Zhang spoke to ProBox TV and said he returns to Saudi Arabia next), and Joseph Parker versus Andy Ruiz Jr. II. Plus, we preview Naoya Inoue versus Marlon Tapales - is Dakota an Inoue hater? 0:00 Deontay Wilder lost to Joseph Parker thoughts 6:00 Wilder vs Joe Joyce, Joseph Parker vs. Andy Ruiz Jr II 8:50 Anthony Joshua destroys Otto Wallin 10:30 Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder 12:30 Anthony Joshua vs. ‘Big Bang’ Zhang 12:00 Future fights - Parker-Ruiz Jr., Joshua vs ‘Big Bang’ Zhang, and Wilder-Joe Joyce 15:10 Fillip Hrgovic's fight thoughts 16:36 Daniel Dubois vs Jarrell 'Big Baby' Miller thoughts 18:00 Dmitry Bivol vs Lyndon Arthur thoughts 22:11 Frank Sanchez vs Junior Fa - Will Frank ever get respect, bub? 24:00 A random mention of Richard Torrez Jr. 24:53 Agit Kabayel's upset win 26:00 Naoya Inoue vs Marlon Tapales preview 31:00 The Greatness of Inoue 35:00 Thoughts on the business of boxing at #DayoReckoning 37:45 Final thoughts on #InoueTapales 45:20 Thoughts on the PBC/Amazon deal