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Over the long holiday weekend, Dev Hynes (Blood Orange) released his latest album, Essex Honey. To celebrate, we return to our 2022 conversation with the visionary musician. At the top, we dive into his EP Four Songs (3:15), performing at Madison Square Garden with Harry Styles (4:40), and the process that guides much of his music (6:39). Then, Dev describes growing up in Essex, England (7:04), falling in love with music at his sister’s piano lessons (11:00), his dreams of entering the New York punk culture of Please Kill Me (20:30), early performances with the band Test Icicles (22:08), and how he’s been inspired by the late Octavia Saint Laurent (30:10). In the back half, we unpack Dev’s gift for collaboration (34:22), the 2013 night that changed everything (38:50), a surreal, full-circle performance of Delancey at the Apollo Theater (46:17), music’s unique ability to express emotions (49:50), and where he hopes to go in his art next (54:20). Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. Get 50% off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com/TALKEASY. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We’re excited to share a new show from Lemonada Media: The Dan Buettner Podcast. Today’s episode features the incomparable Laura Dern. In his groundbreaking Blue Zones research, National Geographic explorer and bestselling author Dan Buettner uncovered the secrets to longevity and happiness from the world’s longest-lived populations. Now, on the podcast, he’s sharing the practical habits, mindsets, and wisdom that can set the stage for a longer, more fulfilling life—at any age. Dan sits down with extraordinary doctors, explorers, thought leaders, and actors from around the world. In this talk, Laura Dern shares how she lives with purpose, the surprising study that suggests winning an Academy Award can add years to your life, and lessons from her actor parents, Bruce Dern and Diane Ladd. Listen to The Dan Buettner Podcast wherever you get your podcasts, or watch on YouTube. To learn more, head to https://lemonada.lnk.to/TheDanBuettnerPodcastfd Thoughts or future episode ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It’s been a year in Los Angeles. Between the historic wildfires, rapid recovery efforts, and the ICE raids over the summer, Mayor Karen Bass has been tasked with moving at a breakneck speed to meet the demands of a city in peril. Watch this conversation on our new YouTube channel. The Mayor joins us this week to reflect on her office’s response to ICE in Los Angeles (7:00), the federalization of thousands of National Guard troops by the Trump administration (11:20), and the ongoing legal battle now being waged in court (15:00). We also discuss the city’s “rapid rebuilding efforts” in the aftermath of the January wildfires (21:45), lessons learned from the historic catastrophe (25:50), and why she cut through “federal red tape” (28:48) to push forth her Inside Safe program designed to reduce homelessness (30:20). On the back-half, we get into some of Bass’ personal story: coming of age in the Venice/Fairfax area of Los Angeles (36:30), working in emergency rooms during the crack epidemic of the 1980s (46:00), and her six terms in Congress representing various Los Angeles districts (58:00), all while navigating unimaginable personal loss (54:00). To close, the Mayor discusses her ongoing mission to end homelessness (1:00:00), the promise and potential of the 2028 Olympics (1:04:00), and where she finds the strength to continue fighting for the city that raised her (1:04:45). This episode was recorded at Spotify Studios. Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. Get 50% off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com/TALKEASY. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

With the arrival of Weapons in theaters, we return to our conversation with actor Josh Brolin. Since the turn of the century, Brolin has had quite a run. From No Country for Old Men and Hail, Caesar! from the Coen Brothers, to Inherent Vice from Paul Thomas Anderson, to Sicario and the Dune films from Denis Villeneuve. His memoir, From Under the Truck, contains stories about the life in between. We discuss his upbringing bouncing from Paso Robles to Santa Barbara (8:49), the influence of his mother (10:05), and his entry to writing (19:40). Then, Brolin reflects on his vivid early adulthood in the 80s (26:14), the power of a story (32:30), and what actor Anthony Hopkins illuminated about sobriety (34:35). On the back-half, we get into his collaborations with the Coen Brothers (38:48), his challenging relationship to drinking (50:50), and why finally, after three decades of playing characters on screen, it was time to fill in some of the backstory (1:07:13). This conversation was recorded at Spotify Studios. Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Actor Julia Garner (Ozark) has built a career out of shapeshifting. This summer, the Emmy-winning performer lands on the silver (surfer) screen with two major projects—The Fantastic Four: First Steps and the highly-anticipated horror film, Weapons. At the top, we walk through the spine-tingling world of Zach Cregger’s new film (6:45), the Moleskine character journals she keeps for each role (9:22), and some lessons from her time in clown school (14:01). Then, she reflects on her ‘Noah Baumbach-like’ upbringing (22:27) and the influence of legendary actors Bette Davis, Gena Rowlands, and Sharon Stone (23:15), who she credits for opening the doors in Hollywood that she has walked through (23:50). On the back-half, Garner describes her transformative years making Ozark (30:03), the whirlwind three-week prep period to portray Anna Delvey in Inventing Anna (35:59), her comfort with discomfort (43:05), and how she remains open to growth in this next chapter (44:17). Watch this conversation on our new YouTube channel. Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

David Mamet is one of the most celebrated American playwrights of the last century: Sexual Perversity in Chicago, Speed-the-Plow, American Buffalo, and Glengarry Glen Ross— which won the Pulitzer Prize for Drama in 1983 and remains timely today. Our conversation unfolds, fittingly, in three acts. Act I: the inspiration behind his new novel about education, Some Recollections of St. Ives (6:00), weathering the ‘emotional hurricane’ of his childhood in Chicago (15:00), and how the drama of those early years materialized in his 1994 play The Cryptogram and beyond (27:00). In Act II, Mamet talks writing dialogue for the stage and screen (30:00), his disdain for psychoanalysis and the Actors Studio (33:00), and the philosophy that guided both his first theatre company (34:00) and subsequent plays (37:00). In the closing act, we wrestle with Mamet’s rightward shift: his views on DEI (40:00), late-stage capitalism (48:00), ‘Constitutional Conservatism’ as it relates to the 2020 election (55:00), his latest book The Disenlightenment: Politics, Horror, and Entertainment (59:00), and what he believes a ‘peaceful and patriotic’ protest should look like (1:07:00). Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Long before Celine Song was nominated for an Academy Award for her feature directorial debut, Past Lives, she was a struggling playwright in New York City with an unusual side hustle: matchmaking. In this special episode presented by Death, Sex & Money, host Anna Sale sits with Celine to unpack how this personal experience inspired the plot of her new A24 movie, Materialists, starring Dakota Johnson, Chris Evans, and Pedro Pascal. Follow and listen to Death, Sex & Money wherever you get your podcasts. Thoughts or future episode ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

After nearly four decades of working in Hollywood, actor Patricia Clarkson (The Station Agent, Pieces of April) says her portrayal of women’s rights activist Lilly Ledbetter is “the greatest privilege” in her storied career. We sat with the legendary actress as part of this year’s Aspen Ideas Festival to discuss her powerful turn in Lilly (3:00), her colorful New Orleans upbringing (9:56), and the educator who first recognized Patricia’s talent (15:00). Then, she reflects on her life-changing move from Louisiana to New York City (19:00), years of training at the Yale School of Drama (24:00), and her early film roles opposite Kevin Costner in The Untouchables and Clint Eastwood in The Dead Pool (25:00). On the back-half, we discuss her transformation in the groundbreaking 1998 film High Art (27:30), her process of “total immersion” on set (34:00), and how that commitment led to a call from director Martin Scorsese and a pivotal part in Shutter Island (42:00). To close, we talk through Patricia’s raucous role in Easy A (44:00), her ongoing fight for equal pay in Hollywood (46:00), and her lifelong love of Thornton Wilder’s Our Town (51:00). Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

“I wanted to be good, but I completely burned up the morning,” said Joaquin Phoenix on day 1 of Eddington. “Ari and I stayed on set when everyone left for lunch—and, slowly, something emerged. I don’t know if it’s any good, but it didn’t make me want to end everything.” With the film’s arrival in theaters, we return to our candid, long-form talk with Phoenix. At the top, we unpack his transformation in Joker: Folie à Deux (7:10), his free-wheeling collaborations with director Todd Phillips (9:32), and the nomadic upbringing that marked his early years (13:00). Then, he reflects on his childhood television debut in Hill Street Blues (20:27), the brilliance of Robert De Niro (25:53), and his formative performances in To Die For and Parenthood (32:45). On the back-half, we discuss how the polarizing mockumentary, I’m Still Here (45:15), inspired his singular collaborations with directors Spike Jonze, Paul Thomas Anderson, James Gray, and Lynne Ramsay (49:30). We also talk about the evolution of his acting process (50:47), the impassioned Oscars speech he delivered accepting Best Actor for Joker (56:15), and whether he’ll ever turn in what he believes is a ‘great’ performance (1:00:40). Hear our episode with Ari Aster and watch on YouTube. Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

“Eddington is a film about a bunch of people who know that something is wrong,” says writer-director Ari Aster. “It’s just that nobody can agree on what that thing is.” Aster joins this week to unpack his controversial, COVID-era western: his time back home in Albuquerque, New Mexico, writing through lockdown (7:00), the works of Robert Altman (14:00) and Oliver Stone (17:00) that served as sources of inspiration, and how Beau Is Afraid (2:30) cleared the path to Eddington. Aster also shares his early adventures in moviegoing: including Brian De Palma’s Carrie (23:30), Peter Greenaway’s The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover (23:40), Stanley Kubrick’s Full Metal Jacket (23:50), and David Lynch’s Blue Velvet (24:50). On the back-half, we talk about how he found his voice in film school (29:00), his divisive AFI senior thesis film The Strange Thing About the Johnsons (31:00), the seven years, post-college, that it took to breakthrough with Hereditary (34:00), followed by his breakdown on Midsommar (38:00), and his ‘novelistic’ approach to screenwriting (41:00). To close, we read from Paul Schrader’s infamous Facebook post (47:00) on how AI will change moviemaking (49:00) and a Nietzsche quote that Ari says helps explain this moment in American life (50:00). For more episodes, visit talkeasypod.com or our new YouTube page. Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Writer/director Lena Dunham is the voice of my generation. Or at the very least, a voice of a generation. Her new show, Too Much, is now available to stream on Netflix. We start by discussing her 2022 film Sharp Stick (6:20), the 1970s cinema that inspired it (9:50), and how it offers a “three-way mirror” to the female experience (12:41). Then, Lena reflects on meeting Judd Apatow on the heels of Tiny Furniture (15:39), her rapid ascension following Girls (17:39), the pain and power of grappling with OCD on the show (23:11), the genius of season five’s “The Panic in Central Park” (29:35), and how she’s continued to learn from public criticisms (35:27). On the back-half, we sit with the end of Girls (43:59), the aftermath of that decade (49:57), the new creative path Lena had to forge (55:46), the prophetic presence of her father (1:00:27), the inspiration that is her mother (1:01:47), and the dreams she has for the years ahead—on the screen, and off (1:06:54). Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

From the opinion pages of The New York Times to his popular TikTok feed, Jamelle Bouie is a leading voice in American politics. This week, Bouie helps us sift through the inner workings of Trump’s “Big Beautiful Bill” (3:00): its promise of prosperity for the middle class (8:00), the “moral economy” guiding the legislation (13:00), the projected losses in healthcare coverage across the country (16:00), particularly in right-leaning, rural communities (24:00), the GOP’s vision for the future (30:00), and how strict reporting requirements will put SNAP benefits at risk for millions (38:00). On the back-half, Bouie reflects on the ghost of Democrats past (45:00), campaign lessons from Zohran Mamdani’s bid for New York City mayor (50:00), the recent ICE raids sweeping Los Angeles (1:05:00), and the historical antecedents that help put this moment in American life in perspective (1:13:00). This episode was recorded at Spotify Studios. Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

To celebrate the fourth season of The Bear, we return to our conversation with Emmy-winning actor Ebon Moss-Bachrach. At the top, we dive into the making of the hit series (9:22), his unforgettable collaboration with Jeremy Allen White (11:20), and how Moss-Bachrach manages to keep adding layers to his portrayal of Cousin Richie (14:26). Then, he describes the mounting pressures around this new season (19:23), the day he knew he wanted to be an actor (27:35), and his work through the years with actor Jon Bernthal (30:26). On the back-half, Ebon reflects on a formative role as a jazz musician in Warren Leight’s play Side Man (35:34), his ideas about success and living a more balanced life (38:19), his experience playing Desi in Girls (43:33), a philosophy depicted in The Bear (47:35), and the art he hopes to continue making in years to come (50:38). Subscribe to our new YouTube channel. Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In just under a decade, Jerrod Carmichael has had a remarkably varied career. On the heels of his latest HBO special, we return to our conversation with Emmy-winning comedian. At the top, we unpack the origin of his deeply personal series Jerrod Carmichael Reality Show (6:30), his early days making his NBC sitcom (10:57), and why he decided to broadcast a deeply intimate conversation on the reality show (13:00). Then, he unpacks his view of the camera as a vessel for honesty (17:10), the response from audiences witnessing Jerrod ‘Truman Show’ himself (21:30), and his three-decade history of storytelling (34:15). On the back-half, Carmichael describes the artists who inspired his work (43:00), a formative performance in his first HBO special Love at the Store (50:50), and the evolution of his comedy (57:37). To close, he reflects on the central truth he explores in this new series (59:30) and how he hopes this art will at long last set himself—and his family—free (1:08:30). Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. This conversation was recorded at Spotify Studios in Los Angeles. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oscar winner Sam Rockwell has established himself as one of the most versatile actors of his generation. In our recent sit-down, recorded at the Tribeca Audio Festival, we trace the arc of that career culminating in his season-stealing turn in The White Lotus. We begin with his bifurcated childhood, split between San Francisco and New York City (10:00), falling in love with the movies of the ‘70s and ‘80s (18:00), the cathartic release of performance (22:00), advice from the late Gene Hackman on the set of Heist (28:00), his career-defining turn in Confessions of a Dangerous Mind (30:00), and how he gradually began to lean into vulnerability as an artist (35:00). In the second half, a tribute to Christopher Walken (37:00) and the late Philip Seymour Hoffman (41:00), a dissection of that scene from season three of The White Lotus (46:00), why he tapped into his childhood to portray Bob Fosse in Fosse/Verdon (52:00), and the monologue from Death of a Salesman (55:00) that started it all. If you’d like to know about our next live show, say hello at mail@talkeasypod.com. For more episodes, visit talkeasypod.com or our new YouTube page. And a special thanks to actor Spencer Neville for the assist on today’s introduction. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

For the past twenty-four years, Seth Meyers built a comedy career inside the walls of 30 Rock. We join him there today for our Father’s Day special, reflecting on the past decade of Late Night. At the top, we talk about making the show four nights a week (3:00), his approach to parenting as seen in his HBO special Dad Man Walking (12:00), and the formative lessons that shaped his comedic voice (17:00). Then, we unpack the characters he brought to his SNL audition (22:00), what it takes to get a sketch from read-through to air (35:00), and an infamous 2004 scene Seth performed opposite Donald Trump (40:00). On the back-half, Meyers revisits his legendary White House Correspondents Dinner monologue (42:00), how that night unexpectedly set him on the path to Late Night (47:00), and how his singular approach to the talk show was born (50:00). To close, we take A Closer Look at his Strike Force Five co-hosts (53:00), the future of SNL (57:00), and an early memory of Seth’s father that shaped his creativity (1:02:00). Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Michelle Zauner (Japanese Breakfast) has long turned to music to make sense of the past. Today, she joins us to unpack all of the emotional terrain covered in her latest album, For Melancholy Brunettes (& sad women). We discuss the musical (3:00) and literary (6:00) influences that shaped the new record, her transformative year spent living and writing in Korea (10:30), and the daily diary she kept while abroad (13:20). We then celebrate her late mother (20:00), her exploration of identity in Crying in H Mart (25:00), and the song “Heft” born out of that ongoing grief (28:00). On the back half, Zauner recounts her breakout performance at SXSW (36:00) and unpacks her evolving relationship with her father in the wake of her mother’s passing (44:00), her plans for a second book (52:00), and how she’s coming into her own on this latest world-wide tour (56:00). Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. This episode was recorded at Spotify Studios. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Since his bestselling novel On Earth We’re Briefly Gorgeous debuted in 2019, Ocean Vuong has become one of the most beloved writers of his generation. He first sat with Sam in 2021 amid the pandemic. Today, Vuong returns to discuss the personal history within his latest novel, The Emperor of Gladness—a piece of fiction that draws from the contours of his own coming-of-age in East Hartford, Connecticut (8:00). We begin with the class dynamics at the heart of the book (16:00), the surrogate family he found working at Boston Market (24:00), and his formative college years in New York City (32:00). On the back half, we walk through how Ocean’s work continues to honor the memory of his late mother (40:00), the devastating impact of the opioid crisis (45:00), and his own journey to sobriety (50:00). To close, Vuong reflects on the childlike wonder behind his poem “Dear Sara” from Time Is a Mother (1:00:00), why he still loves teaching creative writing (1:05:00), and how all of these experiences deliver him back to the page, each and every day (1:15:00). Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Even before Jelani Cobb became Dean of the Columbia Journalism School, he was an educator. His reportage at The New Yorker (where he’s been writing about race and politics since 2012), steeped in history. And yet not even Cobb could’ve been prepared for what he’s described as a “harrowing” year in academia. On the heels of graduation week at Columbia, Cobb joins us for a wide-ranging discussion about the climate on campuses across the country (5:14), the Trump administration’s sustained attacks on higher education (10:26), and the “potentially unlawful” detainment of student activist Mahmoud Khalil (15:06). Then, Cobb speaks to the challenges of public trust in journalism (28:30), “the beneficial workplace” he hopes to cultivate in newsrooms (40:00), and why young journalists continue to inspire him (46:00). On the back-half, Jelani reflects on the five years since the murder of George Floyd (51:00), the fleeting corporate activism of 2020 (59:00), the importance of understanding Civil Rights history (1:06:00), and why he’s determined to continue telling stories in “dangerous times” (1:10:00). Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

To commemorate the release of her new, deeply personal Netflix special ‘PostMortem,’ we revisit our conversation with Sarah Silverman. At the top, we reflect on loss (7:16), her HBO special Sarah Silverman: Someone You Love (12:35), and coming of age in the ‘80s (18:42). Then, Silverman talks about her early comedic influences (25:35), her path from SNL to Los Angeles (32:30), and the mentorship of Garry Shandling (35:10). On the back-half, we walk through the evolution of her provocative work, from The Sarah Silverman Program (38:42) to I Love You, America (46:52), the connective tissue of The Sarah Silverman Podcast (49:12), and the legacy of her beloved, late father (51:57). Original air date: June 18, 2023. Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.