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Dave Chang has a few questions. Besides being the chef of the Momofuku restaurants and the creator and host of Netflix’s 'Ugly Delicious,' Dave is an avid student and fan of sports, music, art, film, and, of course, food. In ranging conversations that...

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Dave Chang has a few questions. Besides being the chef of the Momofuku restaurants and the creator and host of Netflix’s 'Ugly Delicious,' Dave is an avid student and fan of sports, music, art, film, and, of course, food. In ranging conversations that cover everything from the creative process to his guest’s guiltiest pleasures, Dave and a rotating cast of smart, thought-provoking guests talk about their inspirations, failures, successes, fame, and identities.

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Tteokgalbi, Hoe-deopbap, Role Models, and K-Everything with Daniel Dae Kim

4/23/2026
Dave makes tteokgalbi, a delicious beef dish, and hoe-deopbap, a tasty fish-and-rice dish, for his guest, Daniel Dae Kim, Host & Executive Producer of K-EVERYTHING. The pair talks about role models and representation, Daniel's career path, and their roots as Korean Americans.Dave and Daniel also discuss Busan and seafood, the next benchmarks they hope to see in their respective industries, and a backhanded compliment Dave will never forget. Watch K-Everything on CNN starting May 9th: https://www.cnn.com/world/k-everythingWatch Avatar: The Last Airbender on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/80237957Follow Daniel Dae Kim on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danieldaekim/Watch Dave learn about his family history on Finding Your Roots: https://ca.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/korean-immigration-20th-century-video/finding-your-roots-season-eight/Check out Nami Nori: https://www.naminori.us/Check out The Joint: https://jointseafood.com/With Vrbo, what you book is what you get.Shop Amazon and save the everyday. Visit amazon.com today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:11:37

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DCS Creative Lab: Hamburg + Mayo Salad Sandwiches

4/20/2026
Dave tests out some Yoshoku-style dishes of potato salad, egg salad, and hamburg steak for upcoming guests. The hamburg steak gets a makeover with panko-crusting, which leads to a sando worth singing for. He discusses the 70/30 rule of meat to fat ratio, homemade mayonnaise and emulsions, and explains binchotan. Will these dishes make it onto a menu soon? Only one way to find out. Watch our recent episode with Mina Kimes: https://open.spotify.com/episode/78Jzka2mBY9YR91I5uqEPt?si=fl7ZCDZqTj6mlEFIZToteALearn more about Kewpie: https://www.kewpieshop.com/collections/kewpie-mayonnaise?srsltid=AfmBOop6F1mS_-D1_l9ugYW1tMZ85r9KqQhQf3v7LdtY04xlDiX85SAWLearn more about Hikiniku To Come: https://hikinikutocome.com/en/Check out the Chez Panisse Cookbook: https://amzn.to/4cvJdz4 With Vrbo, what you book is what you get. Shop Amazon and save the everyday. Visit amazon.com today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:01:33

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The Masters Food and Championship Dinner, #1 Mystery of the Year, and Plating with Chris Ying

4/16/2026
Dave is at the Masters again, but this time a mystery is afoot. Dave and Chris Ying talk through potential solutions to the case, and decide on one not to Dave's liking.What is to Dave's liking is the food at the Masters, as well as how screen-free the experience it is. With no phones allowed, it's one of the few places where everyone is truly in the moment.They close with an Ask Dave regarding learning about those who had big impacts on modern cuisine, as well as a MOIF about when to pack. Learn more about The Masters: https://www.masters.com/index.htmlWatch last year's Masters episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5nX43h47XNjoMpxIpDzGbK?si=MVXFSZQQQnK_Y6KEDGpTxgWatch Dave at the Masters in 2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xgNVuhIHMsLearn more about Astrance: https://www.astranceparis.fr/Watch Untold: Chess Mates: https://www.netflix.com/title/81582391Learn more about Destroyer: https://destroyer.la/Check out America's Culinary Cup: https://www.cbs.com/shows/americas-culinary-cup/Learn more about St. JOHN: https://stjohnrestaurant.com/Learn more about Troisgros: https://www.troisgros.fr/en/Learn more about L'Arpège: https://www.alain-passard.com/en/Check out The McShay Show: https://www.theringer.com/podcasts/the-todd-mcshay-showWith Vrbo, what you book is what you get.Visit us in stores and online https://Warbyparker.com/CHANG Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:07:28

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Gluten-Free Schnitzel, Game Shows, Korean Traits, and Parenting with Mina Kimes

4/13/2026
Dave has his friend, ESPN NFL analyst Mina Kimes, on the show, and he makes one of her favorite dishes in Los Angeles, a schnitzel...but with an even more L.A. twist: making it gluten-free.He also prepares an accompanying lemon purée and chicken soup, as well as some cabbage for a tonkatsu-esque twist.The duo talks about their disparate celebrity game show experiences, their shared and differing Korean traits, as well as parenting and allergies. To close, they discuss a little football over an impromptu milkshake attempt. Check out the Mina Kimes Show featuring Lenny: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iF7cYu0JmmHns3t8dKz93?si=820ca4700d8c4ac0Follow Mina Kimes on Twitter: x.com/minakimesFollow Mina Kimes on Instagram: www.instagram.com/mina_kimes/?Watch Dave's first attempt at schnitzel for Mina: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4ciFvplWyPnEtb7ucguQaZ?si=d-CASVcWSr-Z5z29D5-TEAWatch Dave's second attempt at schnitzel for Mina:Watch Dinner Time Live: https://www.netflix.com/title/81748864Check out Mina Kimes' Celebrity Jeopardy! episode: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt36833960/Check out Mina Kimes help Dave on 'Celebrity "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?"': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tmkOI6bWKsCheck out Dave and Mina on Celebrity Family Feud: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpiOu1DV3rs&t=5sWatch our previous episode with Mina Kimes and Pablo Torre about their time Celebrity Family Feud: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2z7DjsVNZBDpQU3dGq94z5?si=F2Qjr4pqRUKdaC0FrE1XDwWatch Mina Kimes discuss her Celebrity Jeopardy! mistake with Pablo Torre: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuHta5ucZGoCheck out Mina Kimes on The Great American Baking Show: Celebrity Big Game: https://therokuchannel.roku.com/details/3a7325618de5b32166a712f41facd508/the-great-american-baking-show-celebrity-big-game-s2-e1-big-game-special-2026Learn more about Highly Likely: https://www.itshighlylikely.com/Watch Dave cook for Julius Randle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BWP9vYR5IgLearn more about Häagen-Dazs: https://www.icecream.com/us/en/brands/haagen-dazsLearn more about McConnell's Ice Cream: https://mcconnells.com/Learn more about Antico Nuovo: https://www.anticonuovo-la.com/With Vrbo, what you book is what you get. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:04:02

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DCS Lab: Schnitzel Take 2

4/9/2026
Dave wasn't thrilled with the results of his last take on schnitzel with a salsa-seca crust, so it's time to revise. This time, Dave takes schnitzel inspired by a Los Angeles restaurant and makes it even more Los Angeles-inspired by making it gluten-free.He also makes a delicious lemon puree as a pairing, as well as crispy cabbage, as one might see with a tonkatsu. Dave makes a bulldog sauce as well. Let's see if this version is up to Dave's standards and is ready to be served to our upcoming guest, Mina Kimes.Watch Dave's first attempt at salsa-seca schnitzel: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4ciFvplWyPnEtb7ucguQaZ?si=Pt3j-InoTtyhe7E6i_jCdQWatch our cabbage-and-more-filled mandu guk with Eric Nam ep: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1fk34wjSON8AF3N2STwKa4?si=b3bade9577d344d9Watch our lemony episode with Marc Johnson: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1e8dKopMUm4EXSrQErwcII?si=Fl5wwWJkSuib2R0JlbTl_gLearn more about Highly Likely: https://www.itshighlylikely.com/Learn more about Cafe Boulud: https://cafeboulud.com/nyc/With Vrbo, what you book is what you get.Visit us in stores and online https://Warbyparker.com/CHANG Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:46:52

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Tteok Mandu Guk, Traitors, and Being Korean American Today with Eric Nam

4/6/2026
It's a steaming hot day, but Dave makes a celebratory dish of tteok mandu guk, a Korean rice cake and dumpling soup, for his guest, singer and actor Eric Nam.They discuss being Korean American today and how much has changed since they were young, their Korean language proficiency, and, of course, Eric's recent stint on Traitors.Dave and Eric talk about their favorite Korean foods, how great banchan is, and why the dishes of gimbap and hoe might take off in the future.Find Eric Nam on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericnamFind Eric Nam on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ericnamListen to Eric Nam: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2FLqlgckDKdmpBrvLAT5BMLearn more about Sun Nong Dan: https://sunnongdanusa.com/Watch Eric on Traitors: https://www.peacocktv.com/stream-tv/the-traitorsWatch Chef Edward Lee on Culinary Class Wars: https://www.netflix.com/title/81728365Learn more about the Yonsei Korean Language Institute: https://www.yskli.com/course.php?mid=E01_01Check out The Sopranos: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0141842/Check out Avatar: The Last Airbender: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417299/Learn more about Super Peach: https://www.momofuku.com/restaurants/super-peachLearn more about Bibigo: https://www.bibigousa.com/With Vrbo, what you book is what you get.Try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE at https://ziprecruiter.com/CHANG Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:09:33

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Braised Tofu, A5 Wagyu Steak, Aging, and Laughter with Joel McHale

4/2/2026
Dave cooks a protein-focused dish for a "master of meat": actor, comedian, & host Joel McHale...but Dave doesn't cook red meat like Joel may be used to. After having some of Dave's delicious Wu's Garden-inspired braised tofu, Joel hops (literally) into the kitchen to make a gorgeous Miyazaki A5 wagyu steak. Amongst the cooking, Dave and Joel debate how often you should eat meat, talk about getting older and their health, and reveal why some people call Joel's home "Crazy House" (Hint: Joel likes knives. A lot.). Follow Joel McHale on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joelmchale/Check out House of Villains: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt26695859/Check out Animal Control: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21376524/Check out The 1% Club: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29797830/Check out Crime Scene Kitchen: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14409846/?ref_=tturv_ov_bkCheck out Scream 7: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27047903/Learn more about Aroma Cafe: https://www.aromacoffeeandtea.com/Watch Dinner Time Live for the episode with Joel McHale and Harvey Guillén: https://www.netflix.com/title/81748864Learn more about GoRuck: https://www.goruck.com/Learn more about McCall's: https://www.mccallsmeatandfish.com/Listen to Fat Boys: https://open.spotify.com/artist/3537Phr9t8GWkY2GtxDpnt?si=niNJQ7eaT6SM9kK8UXMGxQLearn more about Koda Farms: https://www.kodafarms.com/Learn more about El Gaucho Seattle: https://elgaucho.com/seattle/Learn more about Troisgros: https://www.troisgros.fr/en/Learn more about Regalis Foods: https://www.regalisfoods.com/Learn more about Craft: https://www.craftrestaurant.com/Learn more about Moo's Craft BBQ: https://www.mooscraftbbq.com/Check out Truffle Boy: My Unexpected Journey Through the Exotic Food Underground by Ian Purkayastha: https://amzn.to/4lMBZuRCheck out Sinners: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31193180/ With Vrbo, what you book is what you get. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:10:51

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Hot and Sour Egg Drop Soup, Cooking with Lemons, and Iterating on Dishes with Marc Johnson

3/30/2026
Dave completes his Greek avgolemono-to-Chinese sour egg drop soup journey with a final iteration of lemony chicken soup. He makes it for a friend of the show, culinary consultant on Dinner Time Live, Marc Johnson.Marc and Dave talk about the process of getting a dish from its initial to its final version, how they met, Marc's career path, and Marc's recent marathon.They also compare their different ways of thinking about food and how they develop dishes when faced with constraints.Watch Dinner Time Live: https://www.netflix.com/title/81748864 Learn more about Congee NYC: https://congeenyc.com/Learn more about Cafe Boulud: https://cafeboulud.com/nyc/ Learn more about Blue Hill Farm: https://www.bluehillfarm.com/ Learn more about Majordomo: https://www.majordomo.com/ Learn more about Sézanne: https://www.sezanne.tokyo/ Learn more about The Chairman: https://www.thechairmangroup.com/ Learn more about WING: https://wingrestaurant.hk/ Learn more about Barbs B Q: https://www.barbsbq.com/ Learn more about Black's BBQ: https://www.blacksbbq.com/ Learn more about Kreuz Market: https://www.kreuzmarket.com/ Learn more about Hill Country: https://www.hillcountry.com/ Learn more about Sushi Sonagi: https://www.exploretock.com/sushi-sonagi-gardena/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:02:40

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DCS Creative Lab: Sour Egg Drop Soup and Tteok Mandu Guk

3/26/2026
In this DCS Creative Lab session, Dave tests two dishes that will make their way to the counter soon for future guests. Dave further iterates on a dish he served to Chris Bianco, the Greek lemon-and-chicken-based avgolemono. Now, he's taking it to China for a version of sour egg drop soup. Dave also pivots a dish to an impromptu tteok mandu guk, a Korean rice cake and dumpling soup.How will these dishes turn out? Only one way to find out!Watch our previous episode with avgolemono served for Chris Bianco: https://open.spotify.com/episode/21y5QlRQzEEM3yliX9jaWU?si=5lr9eevGST6RB_Y0Ae2ZoA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:51:39

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Avgolemono, Chicken and Rice, and Caesar Salad With Chris Bianco

3/23/2026
Dave tries his hand at a Greek dish, avgolemono, and turns it into 3 dishes for a surprise drop-in guest, chef-owner of BIANCO restaurants, Chris Bianco. They talk about pressure cookers, the ultimate Italian soups, and lemon-forward food, amongst other topics. Dave finishes with an idea to take this dish from Greece to another country in a future episode. Learn more about Bianco: https://www.pizzeriabianco.com/ Host: Dave Chang Guests: Chris Bianco Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer, Noelle Cornelio Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Editor: Jake Loskutoff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:45:28

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Draft Episode for Mar 19, 2026

3/19/2026
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Duration:00:57:13

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The Best French Fries at Home, New Mexico Green Chile Stew, and Food Science With Chef Chris Young

3/16/2026
Dave makes a version of New Mexico green chile stew for his friend, chef and scientist Chris Young. Chris also walks Dave through how to make the best french fries at home—from the freezer! Dave and Chris talk about their mindsets regarding the intersection of food and science, what they look for in restaurants now that they're older, and taking creative risks. Learn more about Chris Young Cooks: https://chrisyoungcooks.com/ Watch Chris Young's videos on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisYoungCooks Watch Chris' soufflé video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU5u9UzZnEU&t=394s Learn more about Combustion Inc: https://combustion.inc/ Learn more about Modernist Cuisine: https://modernistcuisine.com/books/modernist-cuisine/ Learn more about The Fat Duck: https://thefatduck.co.uk/ Check out The Fat Duck cookbook: https://amzn.to/40mo19d Check out Harold McGee's book On Food and Cooking: https://amzn.to/4rp2NlS Learn more about Tire Shop Taqueria: https://www.yelp.com/biz/tire-shop-taqueria-los-angeles Learn more about Frontier Restaurant: https://www.frontierrestaurant.com/ Learn more about Sushi Sonagi: https://www.exploretock.com/sushi-sonagi-gardena/ Learn more about Arpège: https://www.alain-passard.com/en/ Check out Heston's Blumenthal's perfect French fry recipe in 'Pursuit of Perfection': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCB9jIpNGzY Learn more about Morton's: https://www.mortons.com/ Learn more about Joe's Stone Crab: https://joesstonecrab.com/ Host: Dave Chang Guest: Chris Young Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Additional Crew: Michael Berger, Abby Zidonis, Marcus Yasui, Michael Delgado, Elizabeth Styles Editor: Jake Loskutoff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:13:49

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Oxtails, "Chicken 66," and Science With Krishna Choudhary, PhD, and Lester Nare of the From First Principles Podcast

3/12/2026
Dave makes Jamaican oxtails and "Chicken 66," an amalgamation of Chicken 65 and chilli chicken, for two smart guests: Lester Nare and physicist Krishna Choudhary, cohosts of one of his favorite podcasts, From First Principles. They talk about how they began their journeys in science, formed a friendship, and found a podcast format that works for both them and the layperson listener. They also discuss why science is important overall, Dave's unified theory of deliciousness, fresh spices versus ground, and, of course, MSG. Check out From First Principles: https://www.ffppod.com/ Check out From First Principles' double-slit episode: https://www.ffppod.com/episodes/ep3 Read Dave's "Unified Theory of Deliciousness" article: https://www.wired.com/2016/07/chef-david-chang-on-deliciousness/ Learn more about Diamond Crystal salt: https://www.diamondcrystalsalt.com/kosher-salt Learn more about Ajinomoto MSG: https://www.ajinomoto.com/ Learn more about Accent: https://accentflavor.com/product/flavor-enhancer/ Visit us in stores and online https://Warbyparker.com/CHANG Host: Dave Chang Guests: Lester Nare, Krishna Choudary Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Additional Crew: Michael Berger, Abby Zidonis, Marcus Yasui, Michael Delgado, Elizabeth Styles Editor: Jake Loskutoff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:31:38

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Succotash Meets Spätzle, Doing Media as a Chef, and Dave's Favorite Chili

3/9/2026
Dave talks about his first experiences with TV and media as a chef and how that indirectly led to Lucky Peach. Dave then MacGyver's off-the-cuff, making a dish of succotash and spätzle, and inadvertently finding a cultural link between them and Brunswick stew. He finishes by answering an Ask Dave about his favorite chili pepper. Learn more about Fallow UK: https://fallowrestaurant.com/ Watch our episode with Chef Jeremy Fox: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5hiONAYCjxCjAhK20CtWdd?si=hsiDb0NvQ4q_p0nzeqU05A Learn more about Benu: https://www.benusf.com/ Learn more about Ana Sortun's Oleana: https://www.oleanarestaurant.com/ Learn more about Via Carota: https://www.viacarota.com/ Learn more about Fat Duck: https://thefatduck.co.uk/ Learn more about Super Peach: https://www.momofuku.com/restaurants/super-peach Learn more about Kato: https://www.katorestaurant.com/ Watch The Mind of a Chef: https://www.pbs.org/show/mind-chef/ Watch In Search of Perfection: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1134897/ Learn more about Benton's: https://shop.bentonscountryham.com Try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE at https://ziprecruiter.com/CHANG Host: Dave Chang Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Additional Crew: Michael Berger, Abby Zidonis, Marcus Yasui, Michael Delgado, Elizabeth Styles Editor: Jake Loskutoff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:57:08

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Dave's Trip to Paris, Great Meals He Had, and Cooking from Scratch

3/5/2026
Dave has returned from a lovely trip to Paris and has plenty to say about it. He talks about where he ate, such as the incredible Maison Sota, which he thinks deserves more praise, and the great Bruno Verjus, with Bruno's unique story. Dave also discusses where he didn't get to eat, but would love to support. Dave also talks about how Paris is changing before he answers an Ask Dave about cooking from scratch in restaurants and at home. Learn more about Maison Sota: https://en.maison-sota.com/ Learn more about Clown Bar: https://www.clownbar.fr/ Learn more about Astrance: https://www.astranceparis.fr/ Learn more about Arpège: https://www.alain-passard.com/ Check out the Chef's Table France on Alain Passard: https://www.netflix.com/title/80128096 Learn more about Providence: https://providencela.com/ Learn more about Balthazar: https://balthazarny.com/ Learn more about Ha Noi 1988: https://www.viet-eat.com/en Learn more about Le Duc: http://restaurantleduc.com/ Learn more about Table by Bruno Verjus: https://table.paris/ Learn more about Le Servan: https://www.leservan.fr/ Learn more about Musée National Picasso-Paris: https://www.museepicassoparis.fr/en/home-page Learn more about Smyth: https://www.smythandtheloyalist.com/ Learn more about Asador Etxebarri: https://www.asadoretxebarri.com/en/home Check out our most recent episode with Chef Edward Lee: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6LFn14t5qcD7M6CNbWH7OA?si=Miqz9IpjT6qhk8ocxGZsPA Learn more about SHIA: https://shiarestaurant.org/ Learn more about Benu: https://www.benusf.com/ Learn more about St. JOHN: https://stjohnrestaurant.com/ Learn more about From First Principles podcast: https://ffppod.com/ Learn more about Combustion Inc.: https://combustion.inc/ Learn more about The Fat Duck: https://thefatduck.co.uk/ Host: Dave Chang Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Editor: Jake Loskutoff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:50:14

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Italian Sunday Dinner, Betting, and Inappropriate Dinner Conversations With Cousin Sal

3/2/2026
Dave makes an Italian Sunday dinner of braciola and red sauce for "Cousin Sal" Iacono, sports gambling enthusiast and prankster. Dave also surprises Sal with two dishes that Dave didn't make, including his favorite sandwich in Los Angeles. The duo discusses a buffet's worth of topics, from GLP-1s to sandwiches, sports betting to why Vegas is struggling, and hot dog–eating contests. They finish with a game of Inappropriate Dinner Conversations, which gets a little NSFW and a lot character-revealing. Learn more about The Masters: https://www.masters.com/index.html Learn more about Dave and Buster's: https://www.daveandbusters.com Learn more about The French Laundry Cookbook by Thomas Keller: https://amzn.to/4aRjBMr Learn more about White House Subs: https://www.whitehousesubshop.net/ Learn more about Bianco: https://www.pizzeriabianco.com/ Host: Dave Chang Guest: "Cousin Sal" Iacono Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Additional Crew: Jake Loskutoff, Dionte Mercado, Dan McCoy, Michael Delgado, Abby Zidonis Editor: Jake Loskutoff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:57:32

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Chicken Divan, Being Curious, and Meaningful Dishes With Cord Jefferson

2/26/2026
Dave makes an incredibly unlikely dish for him to make: a casserole. Dave has Oscar and Emmy-winning writer/director Cord Jefferson as his guest and makes chicken divan to try to bring him back to his childhood. The duo talk their recent trip to Las Vegas together, Cord's unusual route to where he is today, and their philosophies on failure and success. They talk about maintaining a worldly curiosity, trying new things, and how learning what you don't like can be just as important as learning what you do, then finish with a MOIF about Vegas. Follow Cord Jefferson on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cordjefferson/ Watch American Fiction: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt23561236/ Watch Mind of a Chef: https://www.pbs.org/show/mind-chef/ Watch Ugly Delicious: https://www.netflix.com/title/80170368 Watch Gattaca: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119177/ Learn more about the book Animal Liberation by Peter Singer: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/animal-liberation-now-peter-singer Learn more about Buffalo Exchange: https://buffaloexchange.com/ Watch Survivor's Remorse: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3231022/ Watch Master of None: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4635276/ Watch The Good Place: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4955642/ Watch Succession: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7660850/ Watch Watchmen: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7049682/ Watch Station Eleven: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10574236/ Watch Cord's Oscar speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEZz2dSXS0c Watch Leaving Las Vegas: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113627/ Watch Ocean's Eleven: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0240772/ Learn more about Range by David Epstein: https://davidepstein.com/range/ Host: Dave Chang Guest: Cord Jefferson Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Additional Crew: Jake Loskutoff, Dionte Mercado, Nikola Stanjevich, Samya McCoy, Michael Delgado Sound Engineer: Kevin Cureghian Editor: Jake Loskutoff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:08:01

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Gumbo, New Orleans, and a Pop Quiz With a Surprise Familiar Guest

2/23/2026
Dave made a special gumbo recipe for a guest ... but got a different guest than he bargained for, and one he knows very well. He and his new guest talk off the cuff about the differences between jambalaya and gumbo, discuss how New Orleans has the most distinct food culture of any U.S. city, and debate which city best represents the food of the South, all while acknowledging a lack of expertise. They finish with a quick atlas of where to eat in New Orleans. Watch 'Dinner Time Live': https://www.netflix.com/title/81748864 Learn more about Cochon: https://cochonrestaurant.com/ Learn more about Herbsaint: https://herbsaint.com/ Learn more about Cochon Butcher: https://cochonbutcher.com/ Learn more about Peche: https://www.pecherestaurant.com/ Learn more about Galatoire's: https://www.galatoires.com/ Learn more about Commander's Palace: https://www.commanderspalace.com/ Learn more about Willie Mae’s: https://williemaesnola.com/ Learn more about Domilise's: https://www.domilisespoboys.com/ Learn more about Dong Phuong Bakery: https://www.dpbakery.com/ Learn more about Bacchanal: https://www.bacchanalwine.com/ Learn more about Emeril's: https://emerilsrestaurant.com/ Host: Dave Chang Guest: Chris Ying Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Additional Crew: Michael Berger, Dionte Mercado, Elizabeth Styles, Dan McCoy, Greg Scott Davis Sound Engineer: Kevin Cureghian Editor: Jake Loskutoff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:36:36

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Shabu-Shabu, the Great Chef Corey Lee and Benu, and Chris Ying

2/19/2026
Dave turns a solo episode into a shabu-shabu meal with our pal Chris Ying. They talk about the beauty of dishes like shabu-shabu, whether they like fish balls, and how Dave makes a delicious sauce for the dish. The duo then talks about Dave's recent trip to San Francisco, Chef Corey Lee and his restaurants, and both the admiration and ire Corey causes in Dave... for being so dang good. Learn more about Haidilao: https://www.haidilao-inc.com/us Learn more about Benu: https://www.benusf.com/ Learn more about San Ho Won: https://www.sanhowon.com/ Learn more about The French Laundry: https://thomaskeller.com/tfl/ Learn more about Craft: https://www.craftrestaurant.com/ Learn more about Gramercy Tavern: https://www.gramercytavern.com/ Learn more about Per Se: https://thomaskeller.com/perseny/ Learn more about Mason & Dixon by Thomas Pynchon: https://amzn.to/46a8uMZ Host: Dave Chang Guest: Chris Ying Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Additional Crew: Donald LoBianco, Elizabeth Styles, Lighting Dionte Mercado Sound Engineer: Kevin Cureghian Editor: Jake Loskutoff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:09:53

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Breakfast Burritos, Clay Pot Rice, Filming Food, and Finding a New Angle With David Ma

2/12/2026
Dave has director and filmmaker David Ma in the studio, who is known for his amazing work with food on-screen. Dave makes an unusual pairing of delicious dishes for David: a breakfast burrito and clay pot rice. See if he can nail them both ... or neither? The duo discusses how David Ma made the leap from advertising to filmmaking, as well as how he innovated his personal style of shooting food. They also compare notes on perfect imperfection, Japan, and craft services on film sets. Check out David Ma's work: https://davidmafilms.com/ Follow David Ma on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davidwma/ Follow David Ma on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@davidwma Follow David Ma on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@dma052 Check out Food Films: https://davidmafilms.com/food-films Watch 'Chef's Table': https://www.netflix.com/title/80007945 Learn more about Shima: https://jpneazy.com/restaurants/157 Learn more about Shinji's Bar: https://shinjisbar.com/ Learn more about Sugita: https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/tokyo-region/tokyo/restaurant/sugita Learn more about Tokyo Banana: https://www.tokyobanana.jp/language/en/ Watch the movie 'The Godfather': https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068646/ Watch the movie 'The Taste of Things': https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19760052/ Watch the movie 'Chef': https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2883512/ Watch the movie 'Diner': https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083833/ Host: Dave Chang Guest: David Ma Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Additional Crew: Jake Loskutoff, Michael Berger, Elizabeth Styles, Samya McCoy, Greg Scott Davis Sound Engineer: Kevin Cureghian Editor: Jake Loskutoff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:02:10