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Some ideas belong in the theological recycle bin—this episode takes on one of them. We unpack the “serpent seed” doctrine, where it came from, why it keeps resurfacing, and how it collapses under Hebrew, history, and the church fathers. We trace its Gnostic fingerprints, show how it fuels bad fruit (including racist distortions), and contrast it with the biblical “seed” theme fulfilled in Christ. We also sort out why people confuse Genesis 3 with Genesis 6 and how presentism, isogesis, and click-driven sensationalism muddy the waters. Along the way: Irenaeus, Heiser, Zohar, Ophites, Branham/Murray, and why sound doctrine must marry reason and the supernatural. We wrap with practical tests for spotting heresy and a call back to creedal foundations that love the real Jesus. Today we, welcome back Dr. Judd Burton. https://www.burtonbeyond.net/ Timestamps 00:00:08 Creedal foundation 00:00:28 Show intro 00:00:56 Guest setup 00:03:11 What is serpent seed 00:05:36 Deception is moral 00:07:38 Language and training 00:09:43 Interest vs. authority 00:12:08 Fathers refuted it 00:14:31 Gnostic sources cited 00:16:57 Zohar/Kabbalah misuse 00:19:19 Racist applications 00:21:26 Fruit test of doctrine 00:23:48 Nephilim vs serpent seed 00:26:13 Projecting Gen 6 00:33:03 Crushing the serpent 00:35:10 Seed ≠ DNA only 00:37:34 Presentism cautions 00:39:43 Evidence and humility 00:42:08 Emergent/Gnostic drift 00:44:30 Deconstruction nuance 00:46:51 Creed over tribe 00:49:17 Unraveling danger 00:51:39 Torah and grace 00:54:05 Final thanks

This conversation peels back the glossy veneer on modern church culture and asks what Jesus actually had in mind. We talk megachurch money, the “business model” of religion, and whether tithing-as-law was ever the point. Amy unpacks the influencer pastor era, the pressure-cooker system that breeds burnout, and why Acts-style fellowship (shared tables, rotating teachers, real accountability) still works. We compare Sunday stage shows to small, Spirit-led communities and ask if the apostles would even recognize our churches. From Laodicea warnings to Watchman Nee–style generosity, we press into discipleship over attendance. It’s frank, hopeful, and aimed at reform from the inside out with one of our favorite guests- Amy from Eyes on the Right podcast! Amy’s Counseling Website: https://www.biblicalguidancecounseling.com/ Amy's Podcast Same Topic: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-mega-church-money-machine/id1692081180?i=1000716256160 *Catch This Must-Watch Docuseries : https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/purchase/AMYW36 *IG: eyesontherighpodcast & eyesontheright4.0 Timestamps: 00:01:00 Exposing the business of Christianity 00:02:47 Mention of “The Religious Business” documentary 00:05:08 Heart posture vs church consumerism 00:07:29 Institutional systems and fallen influence 00:09:42 Pastoral pressure and spiritual burnout 00:11:56 Success measured by butts in pews 00:14:23 What is church? The body of Christ 00:16:42 Pedestal pastors and misplaced focus 00:18:59 Shared teaching and authentic leadership 00:21:25 Comparing Acts church to modern models 00:22:05 Tithing vs New Covenant generosity 00:24:32 Giving as worship and heart posture 00:26:45 Generosity, reaping, and sowing in faith 00:29:05 Can the megachurch model be redeemed? 00:31:22 Laodicea church and spiritual blindness 00:33:43 House church rhythm and online fellowship 00:36:03 Would the apostles recognize our churches? 00:38:19 One-anothering and real fellowship 00:40:41 Why recovery groups feel like real church 00:43:07 Transparency, confession, and authentic ministry 00:45:26 Amy’s story — “Get up” and walk again 00:47:46 Prayer for the church and believers 00:49:53 Guest plugs and final thoughts

Brandon and Lindsy welcome a guest who cracks open a hidden dossier on culture-war psyops—where protest songs, psychedelics, and carefully scripted narratives intertwine. Listeners are led through a labyrinth of acid parties that weren’t so “free,” Laurel Canyon salons doubling as distribution hubs, and elite families underwriting a psychedelic renaissance that looks far less organic than advertised. From Lennon to Hendrix, Cobain to Tupac, the names you thought were untouchable are revealed as pawns in a much bigger game. This conversation pulls the velvet curtain back on COINTELPRO echoes in hip-hop, the strange survival of “sex & rock ’n’ roll” while “no drugs” artists vanished, and the shift from vinyl manipulation to viral manipulation. Guiding us through this maze of evidence and implication is researcher and filmmaker John Potash. Get his books---https://amzn.to/3Wizkgn https://www.johnpotash.com/ Timestamps 00:52 Setting up today’s topic – hidden war through drugs & culture 02:00 John Potash joins 03:15 John’s personal story with LSD and realization 05:20 Counseling, corruption & activism background 07:45 Oligarch fingerprints on U.S. intelligence 10:00 How John got sources on Tupac & COINTELPRO 12:10 CIA whistleblowers & early articles 14:30 Courtney Love, Kurt Cobain & LSD distribution 16:50 MKULTRA documents & acid in colleges/prisons 19:10 Timothy Leary, Millbrook Mansion & the Mellons 21:25 Ken Kesey, Merry Pranksters & the psychedelic bus 23:50 Crisis-actor rumors about Tupac 26:15 The Grateful Dead & acid tests 28:30 How psychedelics weaken emotional control 31:20 John Lennon’s story, Yoko Ono & manipulation 33:35 Heroin as a control tactic & parallels with other artists 36:00 Psychedelics today, ketamine, and medical narrative 38:15 Funding links: MAPS, Heffter Institute & billionaires 40:35 Church abuse, MKULTRA techniques still active 42:55 John’s website, books & projects / closing thoughts

This episode peers into a relic shrouded in both legend and light—the mysterious cloth known as the Shroud of Turin. Brandon, Lindsy, and guest cohost Jen Parks trace its strange trail through history, where carbon dating collides with forensic detail, plasma bursts hint at hidden forces, and ancient lenses raise unsettling questions. Is it art, accident, or a fragment of resurrection itself? In this journey through science, faith, and the unexplained, we welcome back Dr. Trevor Lohman. Get the book! Shroud-pilled -https://amzn.to/4nVyou9 God's EyeView Book-https://amzn.to/4fhQByY Thank you!!! As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases Timestamps 00:51 Welcome Back Dr. Trevor Lohman 03:18 Initial thoughts on the Shroud 05:39 First photograph and negative image 08:06 Depth data and 3D qualities 10:31 Skeptics vs believers 12:50 Gospel accounts and contradictions 15:12 Faith vs relic debates 17:30 Forensic blood evidence 19:53 Camera obscura theory 22:16 Carbon dating controversy 24:31 Tracing historical custody 26:55 1988 carbon dating scandal 29:18 Problems with raw data 31:38 Explaining carbon dating 34:00 Non-invasive dating evidence 36:26 Historical chain back to Edessa 38:42 Motives and skepticism 41:05 Plasma discharge theory 43:29 Double superficiality discovery 45:53 Shroud uniqueness 48:16 Free will and faith tension 50:42 Protestant skepticism 53:06 Trevor’s personal transformation 55:18 Skeptical vs believer arguments 57:39 AB blood and relic debates 01:00:02 Resurrection significance 01:02:26 Trevor’s podcast and other books

This conversation takes a thoughtful, no-nonsense look at Spirit baptism, gifts, and the heart of what it means to walk in the Spirit. Brandon, Lindsy, and returning guest Clint Byars unravel the baggage around tongues, anointing, and impartation—while exposing how elitism and gnostic thinking have shaped Charismania. They wrestle through semantics, misunderstood doctrines, and real-life experiences of the Spirit, ultimately pointing back to the simplicity of being complete in Christ. From worship as warfare to fasting as a tool for training the flesh, this episode dives into how believers can yield to the Spirit without chasing after hype. Clint closes by sharing a powerful, holistic gospel message rooted in God’s love, freedom, and kingdom reality. Forward Church — his church (south of Atlanta): https://forward.church Clint Byars (personal site + resources/membership): https://clintbyars.com Strong & Godly Men — free course/project for men: https://strongandgodlymen.com Timestamps: 00:00 Understanding Spirit Baptism 00:45 Clint's Journey to Faith 02:23 The Role of the Holy Spirit 05:37 Semantics of Spirit Baptism 07:24 Misunderstandings in Pentecostalism 09:17 Gnosticism and Its Impact 10:46 Experiencing the Holy Spirit 13:49 The New Covenant and the Holy Spirit 17:22 Obedience vs. Dead Works 20:45 The Outpouring of the Holy Spirit 21:11 Understanding Being Filled with the Spirit 23:12 The Role of the Spirit in Ministry 23:57 Receiving the Spirit: An Active Process 25:46 Contrasting Old and New Testament Experiences 26:36 Gnosticism and the Charismatic Movement 29:12 The Elitism of Spiritual Gifts 30:55 Understanding Spiritual Gifts in Community 33:01 The Toolbox of the Holy Spirit 36:47 Proactive Spiritual Warfare 39:46 Exploring Tongues and Prayer Language 42:48 The Quantum Connection: Consciousness and Creation 43:50 Praying with Authority: Co-laboring with God 45:56 The Power of Tongues: A Divine Gift Under Attack 48:06 Fasting and Spiritual Awareness: The Heart's Role 51:46 Understanding the Heart: The Bridge Between Spirit and Soul 57:24 The Gospel of the Kingdom: A Message of Love and Redemption

An ancient site older than history itself flips the script on everything we thought we knew about human origins, religion, and the unseen world. Brandon and Lindsy dig into the strange reality of massive stone structures that shouldn’t exist in the so-called Stone Age—carvings that hint at Watchers, sacred rituals, and even a hidden language lost to time. From ancestor worship and moon-gods to the shocking possibility that humanity’s first couple was deified in stone, this conversation uncovers connections that challenge archaeology, theology, and the very foundations of civilization. Sure, this guest has been interviewed before—but never like this! Grab the book->https://amzn.to/4ngK1w6 Timestamps 00:06 Divine nature and cosmology 03:16 Early assumptions about Gobekli Tepe 05:42 Agriculture vs. ritual first 08:08 Pre-agriculture abundance 10:33 Was the site deliberately buried? 12:47 Animal guardians and supernatural ties 14:50 Connections to Watchers and cherubim 17:17 Symbols, logograms, and proto-writing 19:45 Luwian language theory 24:28 Re-dating Gobekli Tepe to Bronze Age? 26:48 Parallel cultures and locked technologies 28:55 Explosion of civilization after the flood 31:17 Natural resources vs. stones as religion 33:41 Ancestor worship and sacred spaces 36:07 Deified Adam and Eve imagery 38:30 Fox pelt loincloths and Genesis echoes 40:51 Council-like sacred rituals 43:03 Skull fragments and burial practices 45:20 Regeneration, vultures, and fertility 47:43 Nimrod, Babel, and divine intervention 50:05 What’s next in Aaron’s research 52:23 Moon-god worship and biblical connections 54:41 The wilderness of Sin 56:57 Stones, ancestors, and biblical prohibitions 59:23 Where to find Aaron’s work 01:01:44 Patreon and Ancient Pathways resources 01:04:07 Future hope for Gobekli Tepe research

Something old is hiding in the text—older than creeds, louder than tradition, and it doesn’t like the light. Our returning guest slips us a trail of clues through Genesis 6, Psalm 82, and Deuteronomy 32, pointing to quiet edits, missing words, and a council in the shadows. If those changes are real, they don’t just touch giants—they press on the very name “Son of God.” The story widens: rabbis, translators, and empires trying to hush a supernatural thread that keeps resurfacing. And for reasons that feel uncomfortably current, that thread pulls on politics, bloodlines, and the way nations are discipled. We don’t exactly solve the mystery—but we hand you some compelling evidence with a map. Timestamps 00:57 Brandon’s wrestling-style intro 02:10 Why he wrote his new paper 03:17 Pushback against the Nephilim worldview 05:33 How rabbis altered texts in the 2nd century 07:56 Augustine and Chrysostom’s naturalistic shift 10:21 Two Powers in Heaven and early Jewish thought 12:41 Jesus quoting Psalm 82 and its implications 15:00 Masoretic vs Septuagint vs Dead Sea Scrolls 17:21 Deliberate changes in Deuteronomy 32 and Psalm 82 19:43 New Greek translations to counter the Septuagint 22:10 Early church fathers’ awareness of text changes 24:30 Speculation about anti-supernatural agendas 26:56 Islam, henotheism, and Gnostic influence 29:15 Jewish fables, genealogies, and textual variants 31:44 Melchizedek, Shem, and genealogy manipulation 34:04 Psalm 110 and begotten-before-the-dawn language 36:32 Connections to Hebrews and Jesus as Melchizedek 38:51 Why the Nephilim worldview faces modern resistance 41:09 Tradition vs biblical interpretation in Reformed circles 43:27 Augustine’s overwhelming influence 45:32 Quickfire speculative questions for Doug 47:57 Demythologizing scripture and politics 50:23 Dispensationalism, Zionism, and modern Israel 52:32 A biblical chiasm of 1–12–70–nations 54:50 Paul before the Sanhedrin and watcher parallels 57:15 Great Commission as discipling nations 59:40 Two Israels, replacement theology debates

Ever wonder what the future of the church might look like if we tapped into its wild, earthy, and Spirit-filled roots? In this episode, your host Brandon Spain along with Matthew McGuire welcome back author Michael Mitton to explore the wisdom of Celtic Christianity. From sacred landscapes and supernatural encounters to rhythms of prayer, humility, and community, the conversation weaves together theology, history, and the supernatural. They dive into topics like sacred spaces, healing the land, women in ministry, charismatic gifts, and the role of humility in miracles. This one blends ancient faith with modern hunger for authenticity and renewal—and might just give us a glimpse of John 17 lived out. Desire Spiritual Direction?? Contact Brandon for more info! brandon@unrefinedpodcast.com https://amzn.to/3K54AN1<---Michael's Book -Restoring the Woven Cord: Strands of Celtic Christianity for the church today Timestamps: 02:47 Roots of Celtic Christianity 05:12 Physical prayer and worship 07:30 Earthy everyday spirituality 09:49 Protestant hesitation with Catholic practices 12:11 Charismatic adoption of contemplative practices 14:33 Weaving the strands of faith 16:57 Sacred spaces and healing the land 19:17 Contaminated land and cleansing stories 21:38 Creation, nature, and avoiding new age distortions 24:05 Celtic vs Roman view of human nature 26:27 Patrick vs Augustine’s confessions 28:53 Eastern and desert influences 31:09 Solitude and community rhythm 32:43 Anam Cara and soul friendship 35:09 Spiritual direction and confession 37:28 Green and white martyrdom 39:51 Missionary adventure and divine restlessness 42:05 Woven cord and Trinity emphasis 44:28 Michael’s novel and magical realism 45:40 Women in ministry in Celtic Christianity 48:03 Brigid’s story and authority 50:27 Charismatic gifts and humility 52:50 Holiness and humility as prerequisites for miracles 55:13 Eastern vs Western church architecture 57:31 Favorite Celtic saints 59:55 Future of the church

What happens when a chaos magician encounters the living God? In this raw and unforgettable episode, Cole Harrison recounts his wild descent into psychedelic rituals, demonic possession, and occult deception — and the divine rescue that changed everything. From tripping in a basement drum circle to crying out to God in the Oregon wilderness, Cole’s story is a supernatural rollercoaster of redemption. Now, he’s flipping the script, ministering to the same crowd he once ran with — using music, tea, and the presence of Jesus in the middle of psychedelic festivals. It’s gritty, honest, and lit with the fire of the Holy Spirit. https://themagicalducklings.com/ Guest Contact Info – Cole Harrison Ministry Name:Email:YouTube:The Magical Ducklings on YouTube(new music and surround sound experiences shared here)Book referenced by Heiser: https://amzn.to/3UbHiai Timestamps 00:06 Demonic encounter and heavenly intervention 00:28 Introducing Cole Harrison 02:44 Childhood spirituality and early artistic family background 05:06 Drawn to the occult and discovery of witchcraft books 07:27 Early black magic practices and spiritual fractures 09:51 Arrest, rituals, and descent into chaos magic 12:13 Drum-based spirit manipulation and psychedelic influence 14:40 Traveling, manipulation magic, and Castaneda-inspired sorcery 17:03 Introduction of sinister teacher and basement rituals 19:32 Possession experiences during chaos drumming 21:53 Demonic manifestations and internal torment 24:16 Connection to Process Church similarities 26:30 The complexity of electronic music and tripping 28:55 Turning point in the woods, divine encounter 31:16 Realization of deception at Grateful Dead concert 33:40 Demon voices, self-harm, and deliverance in the woods 36:01 Spiritual breakthrough and divine rescue 38:15 Journey to Rainbow Gathering and continued torment 40:36 Encounter with the Bread of Life kitchen and Jesus 42:53 Full surrender, first Bible reading, and confirmation 45:12 First deliverance experience in Dallas 47:32 Filled with the Holy Spirit and slain in the spirit 49:52 Ministry at Bonnaroo and psychedelic outreach 52:10 Redeeming psychedelic culture through creative ministry 54:22 What New Agers get right and wrong 56:43 Reflections on theology, childhood, and spiritual fatherhood 59:05 Psychedelics, mind control, and Laurel Canyon 01:01:31 Supernatural love and genuine community in evangelism 01:04:20 Media mind control and spiritual warfare 01:06:44 Advice for those called to reach the fringes 01:09:07 Embracing weirdness and creativity in ministry 01:11:29 Where to find Cole’s music and final encouragement

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Ever wondered what happens when a neuroscientist follows the data and ends up finding God? This week, we sit down with Dr. Trevor Lohman, author of God’s Eye View, to explore the wild intersection of neuroscience, quantum physics, and biblical faith. From the double-slit experiment to the mystery of consciousness, Trevor walks us through how science isn't just compatible with belief in God—it might actually demand it. We also touch on microtubules, frequencies, and a future episode on the Shroud of Turin! https://unrefinedpodcast.com Trevor's Book-->https://amzn.to/4fhQByY Websites & Contact Info Email to contact Dr. Lohman: godseyeviewbook@gmail.com Substack for updates and writings: hemisphericpress.substack.comAs an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases Timestamps 00:09 Worldview, science, and truth 01:08 Introducing Dr. Trevor Lohman 02:51 Tesla, science conspiracies, and shadow history 05:10 Growing up in scientism culture 07:30 Shattered worldview and rise of skepticism 09:56 Discovering the political and financial layers of science 12:17 Personal background and corruption in healthcare 14:39 Philosophy, quantum physics, and shifting perceptions 16:56 Defining consciousness and free will 19:16 Mind vs brain: is there a driver in the car? 21:37 Observer effect and the self 24:03 Supernatural interpretations of hallucinations 26:22 Jesus, science, and the power of belief 28:43 Science as method vs worldview 31:07 Quantum physics and New Testament parallels 33:07 Christians vs New Age belief in benevolence 35:24 Encountering the gospel as an adult scientist 37:48 The double-slit experiment explained 42:32 Light as wave vs particle 44:56 Consciousness collapses reality 47:07 Simulation theory and rendering reality 50:27 Co-creation and observation 50:54 Entanglement and faster-than-light communication 53:18 Special relativity and breaking it with entanglement 55:37 Consciousness transmission vs production theories 57:55 Microtubules as antennas of the soul 01:00:20 Sleep, prayer, psychedelics, and consciousness 01:02:26 Frequency, science, and spiritual overlap 01:04:44 New age vs science: where's the line? 01:07:01 Real definitions of frequency 01:09:26 Psychedelics, dreams, and microtubules 01:11:46 Radio waves, spiritual realms, and spectrum limits 01:14:11 Frequency medicine and Alzheimer’s 01:16:38 Why frequency-based health is underfunded 01:19:01 Shifting focus to the soul and spiritual formation 01:21:23 Shroud of Turin as scientific mystery 01:23:48 Evidence for the shroud's authenticity 01:26:13 Light, resurrection, and conception 01:27:30 Future topics: AI, consciousness, and shroud 01:27:56 Outro and contact info

This conversation gets Holy Spirit wild! We toss the religious rule book aside and step straight into the deep end of supernatural encounters—exploring altered states of consciousness in the Bible, Old Testament prophets who acted in ways that would shock most church folks today, and how these experiences can’t be judged by outward appearance alone with returning guest Dr. Merrill Greene, author of Drunk in the Spirit. Merrill unpacks both the scholarship and the strangeness, tying ecstatic experiences to solid biblical precedent, while Brandon shares some wild personal stories (including one about Sandy getting “glued” to the floor). From Saul’s prophetic nakedness to modern misunderstandings like “Kundalini” accusations, this episode pushes past fear, control, and skepticism to ask—what if God is stranger than we think, and closer than we realize? Click here to get "Drunk in the Spirit" Paper back and Kindle version Get your shirt free when you join 6 or 12 month package---> https://join.unrefinedpodcast.com/checkout-4680 Buy a shirt---> https://unrefinedmercantile.com/products-list https://www.weirdgod.com/ Timestamps 00:08 Saul’s example and modern parallels 00:27 Intro to the episode 01:00 Holy Spirit wild and Dr. Merrill Greene returns 02:50 From cessationist to charismatic 05:13 Brandon’s and Sandy’s personal encounters 07:35 Power of lived experience over doctrine 09:55 Old Testament altered states examples 12:16 Misunderstanding altered states in the West 14:26 Academic hesitation toward supernatural topics 16:41 Biblical illiteracy and ignoring the weird parts 19:03 Letting go of control for God’s purposes 21:17 Practicing and maturing in spiritual gifts 23:36 Signs that make you wonder 26:00 Ephesians 5:18 and spiritual intoxication 28:16 Tongues under the prophetic ecstasy umbrella 30:41 Biblical and extra-biblical perspectives 33:07 Archaeology, incense, and hallucinogenics 35:28 Strange fire and God’s terms for communication 37:50 Lonnie Frisbee and encountering Jesus despite drugs 39:55 Future revival and manifestations 42:25 Kundalini accusations and discernment of spirits 44:47 Mislabeling spirits and Catholic demonology 47:35 Closing and where to find Dr. Merrill Greene

Ever wondered if remote viewing is just government psy-op weirdness, or WHAT!? In this episode, we welcome back Matthew McGuire—biblical scholar turned parapsychology researcher—to help us sort through the controversy. We explore remote viewing from its scientific roots in the Rhine Research Center and military intelligence units, to its surprising parallels with Christian spiritual gifts like prophecy and words of knowledge. From biblical examples to Watchman Nee’s take on the latent power of the soul, this one hits every angle: theology, science, history, and controversy. Whether you're curious, skeptical, or already peeking through the veil, this episode is an eye-opener. Matthews Book- A Magical World -https://amzn.to/4mcRFXS https://mattmcguire.net/ https://www.rhineedu.org https://unrefinedpodcast.com 📚 Books & Authors Mentioned "The Gift: ESP, the Extraordinary Experiences of Ordinary People" Sally Rhine Feather "The Sense of Being Stared At" Rupert Sheldrake "Irreducible Mind" Edward Kelly et al. "Reading the Enemy’s Mind" Paul H. Smith "The Essential Guide to Remote Viewing" Paul H. Smith "Remote Viewing Secrets" Joe McMoneagle "Phenomena: The Secret History of the U.S. Government's Investigations into Extrasensory Perception and Psychokinesis" Annie Jacobsen Watchman Nee – "The Latent Power of the Soul" "Drunk in the Spirit" Paper back and Kindle versionAs an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases Timestamps: 00:06 Navigating the tension of faith and caution 01:59 What is remote viewing? 02:44 History of parapsychology and its Christian overlaps 04:48 Empirical evidence and scientific classification 05:47 Defining remote viewing from a parapsychology lens 07:26 Comparing charismatic gifts and psychic ability 09:49 Matt’s personal research journey and resources 12:08 Mechanics of remote viewing vs. spiritual gifts 14:30 Signal, noise, and analytical overlay 16:50 Prophetic missteps and community interpretation 19:15 Biblical school of prophets and sanctification 21:37 Watchman Nee and latent power of the soul 24:04 Soul powers pre-fall and spiritual caution 26:29 Trauma, programming, and remote viewing triggers 28:45 Evangelical fear vs. divine sovereignty 31:08 Divination in Scripture and biblical nuance 33:30 The role of intention in discerning practices 35:43 Trance, ecstasy, and biblical precedent 38:04 Response to critiques and misinformation 40:31 The matrix vs. spirit guides in RV 42:54 Spiritual gifts vs. trained psychic ability 45:10 Elisha, the king's bedroom, and biblical examples 47:31 Warning against ego-driven pursuit of power 49:50 Brandon’s 3-part Jesus model: gifts, character, discipleship 50:58 Sensory deprivation and altered states 53:22 Worship, water, and spiritual receptivity 55:36 Practical resources to learn about RV 58:02 Upcoming classes and Christian saints in parapsychology 59:55 Final thoughts and where to find Matt online

#4 of Series: Something Deeper This Way Comes- In this jam-packed episode, Brandon and Lindsy welcome Dana of Rotting Jewels for a wild ride through some of the darkest corners of cult history, counterculture, and covert influence. From the shadowy origins of the Process Church to links with the Manson family, Sons of Sam, Scientology, and MKUltra, Dana pulls back the curtain on networks most folks don’t even know exist. They discuss infiltration into churches, animal rights fronts, and even Hollywood. With mafia connections, occult rituals, psychological warfare, and government psyops all woven in—this one’s got everything but the kitchen sink. Good luck sleeping tonight. https://www.youtube.com/@rottingjewels Share our link -->https://join.unrefinedpodcast.com Timestamps: 00:09 Cults, psyops, and tangled truths 02:32 How Dana got into studying the Process Church 04:49 Ed Sanders’ early work and importance 07:10 Scientology’s violent policies and Michael Carr 09:31 Game of the Gods and cult indoctrination 11:03 How secrecy works in ritual networks 13:22 NYPD investigator stories and ritual crimes 15:36 Serial killers, mind control, and network overlap 17:44 John Douglas, behavioral profiling, and coverups 20:04 Snuff films, pornography, and organized crime 22:19 Cult funding, real estate, and government psyops 24:45 Naval intelligence, Scientology, and spook connections 26:58 MKUltra, psychedelics, and John Potash’s research 29:14 Dana’s personal backlash from Scientology 31:32 Origins and myths of the Process Church 33:33 Legal documents, missionary cover, and Mexico exile 35:51 Transition to the Foundation Faith and prison infiltration 38:00 Satanic Temple and process theology overlap 40:18 Netflix’s Sons of Sam and documentary distortion 42:43 Franco’s The Deuce and sanitized narratives 44:58 Evolution of the Process into "faith healing" movements 47:18 High-level infiltration and transhumanist goals 49:38 Sirhan Sirhan, Blavatsky Foundation, and media cover 52:01 Jolly West, MKUltra labs, and blackmail operations 54:18 Haight-Ashbury Clinic and human trafficking 56:32 Children of God and New York AG’s findings 58:44 Jonestown, tax exemption, and deprogramming psyops 01:00:58 Best Friends Animal Society and Utah compound 01:03:15 Temple activity, power usage, and secret research 01:05:35 German Shepherd symbolism and Nazi ideology 01:07:47 Nazi ideology and Scientology’s dark beliefs 01:09:59 Mafia connections, drugs, and Manson links 01:12:27 Propaganda documentaries and buried clues 01:14:49 Berkowitz's silence, longnecks, and prison threats 01:17:01 Mafia spiritual figures and recent Berkowitz interview 01:19:30 New Netflix documentary and future crime pinning 01:20:53 Role of motorcycle gangs in cult operations 01:21:52 Why bikers were ideal tools for ritual work 01:23:01 Rapid-fire Q&A with Dana 01:24:12 Michael Thevis and mafia-porn connections 01:26:20 Final thanks and how to follow Dana

Ever wondered what redemption looks like for a serial killer? This episode’s going to challenge everything you think you know about good, evil, and the reach of God’s mercy. Brandon, Lindsy, and co-host Jen Parks unravel the story of David Berkowitz—yes, the Son of Sam—and his journey from demonic chaos to radical transformation. They explore the trauma, lies, and spiritual strongholds that shaped his life, and how Jesus met him in a prison cell. From cult involvement and MKUltra theories to deep emotional healing and true crime rabbit holes, this one goes there. What if the worst of the worst can be redeemed? https://unrefinedpodcast.com BECOME a SPONSOR--> https://join.unrefinedpodcast.com https://www.ariseandshine.org/ Timestamps: 00:56 Redemption or jailhouse con? 02:45 Jen's obsession with true crime 04:58 John Douglas, Mindhunter, and SRA doubt 07:12 Ritual abuse denial and its consequences 09:37 Berkowitz’s testimony and Jen’s skepticism 11:59 Monster Mirror and shared humanity 14:25 Process Church connections and spiritual warfare 16:42 Identity, shame, and God's long game 19:01 Jailhouse salvation myths busted 21:25 Early trauma and emotional abandonment 23:47 Adoption trauma and never feeling at home 26:08 Push-pull love and attachment issues 28:25 Shame, guilt, and performance Christianity 30:48 Firestarting, self-harm, and brain trauma 33:14 How the Process Church love-bombed him 35:30 Programmed to kill and lone shooter myths 37:54 Samhain, occult cryptids, and symbolism 40:17 MKUltra, authors, and childhood disillusionment 42:46 The quiet moment of salvation in a prison cell 45:07 Redemption fruit and prison ministry 47:33 Identity lies, Genesis truth, and the orphan spirit 49:55 Losing your individuality in cults 52:09 Dying to self vs. killing your uniqueness 54:36 Enemy’s playbook and emotional triggers 56:59 Why media ignores Berkowitz’s redemption 59:17 A letter-writing ministry to the lost 01:01:39 Caparelli’s interviews and final confession 01:04:02 Final thoughts on spiritual cover-ups 01:06:22 Message of hope: no one is too far gone

Ever wonder what’s really going on in the desert when tens of thousands gather to build a temporary city and burn a giant effigy? In this offbeat episode of Mojave Mysteries, we step just outside the Mojave and into the heart of the Black Rock Desert to explore Burning Man—its roots, rituals, and strange esoteric undercurrents. Brandon and Lindsy are joined by BT Wallace to tackle the symbolism of fire, liminality, mystery schools, countercultures, and even the Nephilim agenda. From sympathetic magic to CIA surveillance, this episode doesn’t just ask questions—it burns them into the sand. https://unrefinedpodcast.com Timestamps: 01:00 Overview of Burning Man origins 02:18 Symbolism of the effigy and sympathetic magic 04:42 Ancient fire rituals and esoteric connections 07:04 Black Rock Desert and Paiute water baby myths 09:30 Occult views of waterways and dry lakebeds 11:35 Collective ritual and sympathetic resonance 12:29 Burning and cremation traditions across cultures 14:41 Catholic and Presbyterian burial practices 17:03 The utopian illusion and societal experiments 19:22 Watchers, Nephilim, and spiritual magnetism 21:33 Rituals, lights, and spiritual pheromones 23:52 The effigy’s origin story and contradictions 26:15 Mock freedom vs. true spiritual liberty 28:32 Cacophony Society and Silicon Valley roots 30:57 Hypocrisy of Burning Man’s 10 Principles 33:21 Chuck Palahniuk and cultural chaos 35:38 Spiritual warfare and societal engineering 37:58 Government programming and MKUltra links 40:12 Christianity as the true counterculture 42:07 Constantine and the church’s cultural shift 44:09 Eugenics, contraception, and deception 46:31 DARPA, frequencies, and surveillance 48:56 Petri dish of social chaos and control 51:19 Phoenix symbolism and the fake resurrection 53:40 Moses’ fire vs. man-made flame

Things get dark in this part two of the Sons of Sam series. Brandon and Lindsy crack open the ritualistic layers surrounding the Berkowitz case and Maury Terry’s explosive claims. From the eerie murder of Arlis Perry to the strange deaths of the Carr brothers, the duo follows a sinister trail that points to organized cult activity—possibly reaching into military bases, MKUltra, and even serial killer networks. With threads leading to the Process Church, Manson, Zodiac, and the CIA, this isn’t just a crime story—it’s a tangled web of mind control, spiritual warfare, and hidden agendas. And yes, they go full conspiracy mode, all while keeping it rooted in truth. https://unrefinedpodcast.com 00:08:00 Cult tactics and MKUltra 00:54:00 Intro to part two and recap 01:56:00 Fear, lies, and Berkowitz’s silence 03:30:00 Arlis Perry’s ritualistic murder 06:32:00 Satanic panic as smokescreen 08:49:00 Who were the Carr brothers? 11:07:00 The Breslin letter and multiple shooters 13:24:00 Was Arlis’s murder covered up? 15:46:00 More strange connections and police pressure 18:08:00 Occam’s Razor fails in conspiracies 20:33:00 Untermyer Park and Devil’s Cave 22:51:00 Animal sacrifice, Nazi ideology, and Chile 25:16:00 Global trail of cult killings 27:39:00 Process Church theology 29:54:00 Jesus and Satan reconciled? 32:19:00 Controlled opposition and sleeper cells 34:37:00 Animal sanctuaries with occult ties 36:36:00 Human sacrifice in modern disguise 38:57:00 CIA, law enforcement, and the occult 41:18:00 Cults as intelligence experiments 43:42:00 Casinos, sensory deprivation, and dark psychology 45:58:00 Principalities at work 48:20:00 Serial killer networks and the Zodiac 50:37:00 Are serial killers actually organized? 52:04:00 Mentors, handlers, and network cleanups 54:34:00 Media distractions and erosion of trust 56:49:00 Process Church still active? 59:12:00 Was Maury Terry taken down strategically? 01:01:40 Outro and reminder of Jesus as the answer

You think you know the Son of Sam story—lone gunman, demon dog, case closed. But what if the real story is way more tangled, way more sinister, and still unfolding? In this kickoff to a multi-part series, Brandon and Lindsy crack open Maury Terry’s The Ultimate Evil, exploring occult networks, multiple shooters, and a satanic underground that spans the country. From Yonkers to Minot to LA, this episode sets the stage for a wild conspiracy ride. Is Berkowitz just a fall guy? Who were the Carr brothers? And why was the case slammed shut so fast? You’re about to find out. https://unrefinedpodcast.com Timestamps: 00:52: Brandon and Lindsy set up the series 01:50: Berkowitz and the demon dog narrative 03:13: Maury Terry and the deeper trail 04:06: Breakdown of the Son of Sam timeline 06:27: The 44 caliber killer gets a name 08:50: The famous Breslin letter 11:06: Berkowitz’s arrest and eerie confession 13:26: Eyewitness contradictions and sketch inconsistencies 15:51: Political motives and the Netflix angle 18:11: Enter Maury Terry and his obsession 20:36: Discrepancies in the letters and handwriting 23:01: Untermeyer Park, rituals, and satanic signs 25:16: Political pushback and Terry's credibility 27:43: Process Church teaser and cult networks 30:05: Berkowitz’s confession vs. fear and silence 32:23: Military ties and the Carr brothers 34:46: Suspicious deaths of the Carr brothers 37:12: Minot cult ties and law enforcement tensions 39:30: The Process Church’s expansion into America 41:59: The theology of the Process Church 44:26: Lawsuits, censorship, and occult influence 46:50: Origins in Scientology and compulsions analysis 49:09: Lindsay on Manson, cult overlaps, and biker connections 53:53: Connections to Scientology and suppressed research 55:47: Cliffhanger and setup for part 2

What if the toxins in your body aren't just making you sick… but making you easier to control? In this mind-bending episode, Dr. Robin Perry Braun returns to blow our minds and strengthen our spirits. From smart dust and nanotech to EMFs, vaccines, and mind control frequencies, this conversation is packed with fringe-y facts and soul-saving solutions. But don’t worry—it’s not all doom and gloom. Dr. Robin shares practical tools, detox hacks, and a spiritual framework for staying aligned, healthy, and naturally supernatural in a technocratic world gone rogue. https://integratedlifestrategies.com https://jellyfish.news/how-to-detect-and-nullify-chip-implants/ https://www.aboutthesky.com/aboutthesky/morgellon-s-syndrome - grape juice test https://theondesigns.com/aff/5/ Grab the detox bath recipe here -> detox.unrefinedfriends.com https://unrefinedpodcast.com Timestamps: 01:23 Babylonian church structures 03:02 Authoritarianism vs. biblical leadership 04:15 The toxic American lifestyle 05:09 The Sahara metaphor for toxicity 07:22 Chemtrails and smart dust 09:38 Bioweapons and Lyme disease 11:56 Vaccine admissions and mind control 14:20 Frequency medicine explained 16:42 Rife machines and healing 19:07 Scalar energy and AO Scan 21:16 The unholy trinity: pharma, doctors, insurance 23:22 EMFs and radiation sickness 25:46 Harmonizing devices and practical tools 28:03 Detoxing while traveling 30:20 The role of military frequency weapons 32:45 Why EMFs are disharmonious 35:10 Glyphosate, heavy metals, and hormone disruption 37:23 Smart dust and brain-machine interface 38:29 Morgellons and nanotech in the body 40:50 Frequency control and black goo 43:13 Demonic influence and energy 45:37 Voice-to-skull tech and spiritual warfare 47:42 Operation Paperclip and transhumanism 49:58 Super soldiers for the Kingdom 52:17 Spiritual immunity through sonship 54:40 Mind-controlled rioters and movie metaphors 56:54 Pineal gland suppression via vaccines 59:08 Mark of the Beast and compliance 01:01:23 Evolution of psyops into technomancy 01:03:53 Nicotine patches for detoxing spike proteins 01:06:09 MyBadBatch.com and placebo vials 01:08:20 Tobacco and nicotine myths 01:10:40 Caffeine and natural stimulants 01:13:02 Making food choices that heal 01:15:26 Water contamination and glyphosate 01:17:49 Kingdom health and performance-based suffering 01:20:06 EMF and nanotech remediation tools 01:22:25 Detox hacks and grape juice swish test 01:24:50 Parasites and spiritual open doors 01:26:44 Final encouragement and resources

You ever hear someone say, “I make comic books—but I can’t draw”? That’s just the start of this wild ride. In this episode, we talk with Adam Farris —graphic novelist, spiritual archaeologist, and biblical giant sleuth. He dives into the gritty truths behind David’s mighty men, hidden genetics in the Bible, lion-faced warriors, and how ancient hybrid bloodlines might still shape our world today. From watercolor prophecy to Job 38’s cosmic riddles and even a trumpet blast from heaven—this one’s got everything. And yes, we ask the question: are there good giants? Book Store (Graphic Novel): https://fivestones.bigcartel.com YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@EAdamFarris Substack (Deep-Dive Writings): https://eadamfarris.substack.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/eadamfarris Timestamps: 0:01:00 Meet, today’s co-host 0:01:38 Intro to Adam Farris 0:03:00 From tire manager to comic creator 0:05:12 Why David is a type of Christ 0:07:39 Grit, weakness, and strength in David’s story 0:10:06 How Adam created his graphic novel without knowing how to draw 0:12:30 Black-and-white vs watercolor aesthetic 0:14:52 Did Moses return with extraterrestrial architecture? 0:15:58 Comic books and the Nephilim connection 0:17:14 Stan Lee, archetypes, and long-game deception 0:19:33 How tall were biblical giants, really? 0:21:58 Hebrew language clues to size and genetics 0:24:26 Hieroglyphs, elephants, and ancient imports 0:26:51 Megaliths, suppression, and biblical timelines 0:29:17 World's Fairs, Arcturus, and free energy 0:31:40 Ancient symbols, fake orbs, and deception 0:34:06 Who were David’s mighty men? 0:36:32 The lion-faced warriors of Moab and Gad 0:38:55 Were they genetically mutated? 0:41:20 Epigenetics, incest, and hybrid lines 0:43:45 Transgressing boundaries and ancient sins 0:46:04 Giants, gibborim, and elite warriors 0:48:27 Stature, scale, and genetic markers in scripture 0:50:45 Breeding vs lab-grown Nephilim 0:53:05 Blue-skinned inbreds and genetic quirks 0:55:28 Why some tribes and animals had to be wiped out 0:57:54 Epigenetics and Nimrod’s transformation 1:00:10 Othniel, divine strength, and early judges 1:02:37 How modern people can relate to ancient giants 1:05:00 What Adam hopes his work will do 1:07:21 Are there good giants? 1:09:10 Adam’s most supernatural experience 1:11:12 Where to find Adam Farris online