Making It

For the last few decades, Sahel has cemented its place as a go-to summer destination for many. Clear waters. Crisp weather. Buzzing nightlife. Last year, the Ras El-Hekma deal swung the spotlight on the potential of Sahel as a regional investment hub. But what exactly are we building up there? In this special episode of Making It, we speak to Marakez Executive Vice Chairman Dasha Badrawi. Dasha stumbled onto the real estate industry in the mid-2000s, and he has been at its forefront ever since. Having been brought up in the UK, his ties to Egypt remained unwavering, and so did his penchant for creation. For the last decade, he has been at the helm of Marakez. Ushering in iconic projects like Mall of Arabia and District 5, Dasha has pushed forward a philosophy that centers innovation, team effort and homegrown partnerships. In conversation with Patrick, Dasha opens up about his early years as a lawyer and entrepreneur, the challenges posed by Egypt’s unique real estate financing model, the way buyers should assess developers, and how favoring recurring revenue through retail and commercial properties was key to Marakez’s success. They speak at length about the changes taking place along Egypt's North Coast, the ethos and architecture of Marakez’s Ramla, and what his team has in store this summer. This episode was produced as a part of our four-part special Destination Sahel. To read the full series, visit: https://enterprise.news/destination-sahel/en In case you missed it, check out these two episodes from our archive: How Gourmet Egypt survived the float of the EGP https://omny.fm/shows/making-it/back-from-the-brink-how-gourmet-egypt-survived-the How Karim Awad has grown EFG Hermes from a regional giant into a global player https://omny.fm/shows/making-it/the-team-player-how-karim-awad-has-grown-efg-herme Learn more about how you can advertise with EnterpriseAM by emailing Moustafa Taalab mtaalab@enterprisemea.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

After more than five years at Mashreq’s helm, Group CEO Ahmed Abdelaal is a well-known face in the regional banking industry and beyond. Ahmed has led the bank through an ambitious expansion strategy that has seen it recently open Mashreq Oman, in addition to Mashreq Neo in Egypt, as well as its digital banking platform for corporate clients in Bahrain, Kuwait, and Qatar. We recently sat down in Dubai with Ahmed to speak at length about how he and his team see the road ahead. Resilience and adaptability, he thinks, will be key in a year that’s filled with uncertainty about everything from interest rates to what the new US administration means for trade, finance, and the world order. We get into whether Arab business leaders pay enough attention to India, banking as a service, innovation in financial services, and a lot more. As with every episode of Making It, this isn’t just a show for industry nerds: It’s part of our masterclass on leadership. We go deep into why Ahmed invites the entire bank to “scru my strategy,” how he gets his leadership team on the same page (while avoiding groupthink), as well as how he makes decisions, decides what to work on himself, and structures his org chart. What does the year ahead look like? In a nutshell, Ahmed tells us that 2025 is “the year where we will be delivering on some of Mashreq’s key strategic objectives.” That includes “continuous innovation, regional expansion, and building state-of-the-art client experiences.” Already a major player in the corridors linking MENA to Asia, the United States, and Europe, Ahmed aims to make the bank the dominant digital player in our region, talking openly about “banking as a service” as concepts including open finance and embedded finance move toward center stage in the so-called platform economy. However it plays out, you can be sure that client experience is at the heart of everything Mashreq has planned. “Focusing on driving client experience — and client excellence — is key,” Ahmed told us. And that goal requires Mashreq to ensure that it has the right kind of people running the show, which means that the bank’s org chart was “built for collaboration, speed of decision making, and — most importantly — innovation and efficiency.” Being a nimble organization that’s able to execute on its key objectives also makes Mashreq well-positioned to jump on opportunities, including those that have long been underplayed, such as India. Today, the UAE has freetrade agreements with India, while “the influx of capital in and out has tremendously increased over the past few years,” Ahmed says. India is one of the many trade corridors that Mashreq is heavily interested in, and has created a “state-of-the-art solution with the biggest seven banks in India” to allow Mashreq clients to digitally open bank accounts in India, eliminating the need for physical presence in India. Closer to home, Ahmed sees plenty of potential in sustainability and ESG, whether you’re looking at the UAE, Saudi Arabia, or Egypt. Across these three key geographies — which Ahmed maintains will continue to work together, rather than compete, for economic strength — sustainable agriculture, ESG investments, and renewable energy continue to be areas of interest. “The amount of commitments and spend, whether it's here in UAE, Saudi and Egypt, is tremendous,” Ahmed says. In this episode of Making It, we dug into all these topics and more, including where Mashreq wants to be in 10 years’ time and other major corridors where Ahmed sees opportunity. ** Tap or click here to listen to the full episode (42:51) on our website or on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In 20 years of working in private equity, Hossam Abou Moussa has seen the makings of great businesses across industries in Egypt and other emerging markets. At Actis, he is a partner in the private equity business, as well as chief operating officer of the unit. Actis is one of the leading investors in emerging markets, and currently operates roughly USD 10 bn under management. In Egypt, they have invested in some of Egypt’s biggest companies, including CIB, Edita, International Diagnostics Holding, and Fawry. In our last episode of the season and the year, Abou Moussa outlines the three fundamental aspects investors look for in a business and how to leverage them for fundraising, as well as how to choose a business partner or investor, and when to choose private equity as an option. ** Subscribe to Making it here for free https://bit.ly/35lugvb. ** Subscribe to Enterprise, our 6am briefing on business, finance and economics in Egypt (also free) at www.enterprise.press. Making It is grateful for the generous support of: CIB, Egypt’s number-one private-sector bank and the partner of choice for CEOs and leaders of businesses at all stages of their growth stories. The United States Agency for International Development, which has a 40 year history of inspiring Egyptian success in partnership with the Government and people of Egypt. You can learn about Actis here: https://www.act.is/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hend El Sherbini took over her mother’s testing facility MK Lab in Egypt and rebranded it to Al Mokhtabar in 2004, with the intention of providing affordable and quality testing beyond Cairo. 16 years later, El Sherbini sits atop Integrated Diagnostics Holding, a merger of Al Mokhtabar and Al Borg. IDH is the first Egyptian company to list on the London Stock Exchange, and has since become a regional player with over 450 facilities across Egypt, Sudan, Nigeria and Jordan. El Sherbini speaks to the merits of institutionalizing her family business and highlights the role consolidation plays in enabling affordable healthcare. ** Subscribe to Making it here for https://bit.ly/35lugvb. ** Subscribe to Enterprise, our 6am briefing on business, finance and economics in Egypt (also free) at www.enterprise.press. Making It is grateful for the generous support of: CIB, Egypt’s number-one private-sector bank and the partner of choice for CEOs and leaders of businesses at all stages of their growth stories. The United States Agency for International Development, which has a 40 year history of inspiring Egyptian success in partnership with the Government and people of Egypt. You can check out IDH here: idhcorp.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ali ElFakharany got hooked on sports data as a university student, and the blog he started to analyze the Egyptian Premier League blossomed into a company in 2017. But the local market was not ready for Arqam’s services, and so Ali turned to Europe. In 2019, Arqam was acquired by UK-based Statsbomb in a share swap agreement that retained Arqam’s team and Ali leading the data product. Today, Arqam’s data collection center in Egypt has become an essential service to 42 European and US clubs, including teams from the English Premier League, Germany’s Bundesliga, and the MLS, providing data analytics services to every level of a sports franchise. We discuss the ups and downs of going from a local luxury to a global essential service and how owning the value chain of data collection and analysis made Arqam FC a viable investment for Statsbomb. ** Subscribe to Making it here for free https://bit.ly/35lugvb. ** Subscribe to Enterprise, our 6am briefing on business, finance and economics in Egypt (also free) at www.enterprise.press. Making It is grateful for the generous support of: CIB, Egypt’s number-one private-sector bank and the partner of choice for CEOs and leaders of businesses at all stages of their growth stories. The United States Agency for International Development, which has a 40 year history of inspiring Egyptian success in partnership with the Government and people of Egypt. You can check out Arqam FC here: arqamfc.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hisham Shawki and Nancy Zayed launched MagicCube in 2014 with the intention of eliminating the redundancy of hardware-based security currently used in mobile and IoT devices. The primary target of their technology is the USD 48 bn POS hardware market, a strategy that attracted investments from Visa and CIB’s VC arm CVentures. Beyond financial services, the security platform has major applications in industrial machinery, medical devices, and autonomous vehicles. The implications on emerging markets looking to improve financial inclusion are undeniable. By removing costly barriers to entry caused by manufacturing and deployment of hardware components, the technology can help bring a greater portion of the informal economy into the system. Hisham and Nancy take us back to how they went from building software in Egypt to working at tech companies that arguably changed the world, and share with us their favorite stories about meeting Steve Jobs. ** Subscribe to Making it here for free https://bit.ly/35lugvb. ** Subscribe to Enterprise, our 6am briefing on business, finance and economics in Egypt (also free) at www.enterprise.press. Making It is grateful for the generous support of: CIB, Egypt’s number-one private-sector bank and the partner of choice for CEOs and leaders of businesses at all stages of their growth stories. The United States Agency for International Development, which has a 40 year history of inspiring Egyptian success in partnership with the Government and people of Egypt. You can check out MagicCube here: magiccube.co See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

With brick and mortar retail seeing declining growth in developed markets fueled by competition from e-commerce, Majid Al Futtaim tells a story that might look a little different in emerging markets. Malls here still see growing popularity and Majid Al Futtaim’s retail brands are household names in Egypt and the region. Ahmed Galal Ismail led Majid Al Futtaim Ventures for 10 years prior to his current role. Today, Ismail leads Majid Al Futtaim Properties, the arm responsible for malls, hotels, communities and project management within the conglomerate. His tenure managing the fashion, cinema and entertainment arms of the business equipped him with a critical ethos - solving for experience and not function. ** Subscribe to Making it here for free https://bit.ly/35lugvb. ** Subscribe to Enterprise, our 6am briefing on business, finance and economics in Egypt (also free) at www.enterprise.press. Making It is grateful for the generous support of: CIB, Egypt’s number-one private-sector bank and the partner of choice for CEOs and leaders of businesses at all stages of their growth stories. The United States Agency for International Development, which has a 40 year history of inspiring Egyptian success in partnership with the Government and people of Egypt. You can check out Majid Al Futtaim here: majidalfuttaim.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

If your business sells time — yours or your team’s or both — then this week’s episode is for you. Lawyering is perhaps the world’s second-oldest profession — and the source of endless jokes, the vast majority of them (pleasantly?) tasteless. Today’s episode features a lawyer — and an awfully nice one, at that — but think of him as a stand-in for every business in the service industry, from ad agencies to engineering consultants, PR types and accountants. From attracting and retaining talent, to creating culture and monetization, Bahaa Alieldean discusses the similarities and universal challenges facing law firms as well as other service providers. We explore creating corporate structure and how micromanagement prevents founders from transitioning away from day-to-day operations into traditionally accepted CEO responsibilities. Bahaa is a law professor and practising corporate lawyer specializing in capital markets, banking transactions and dispute resolution. He established his law firm ALC Alieldean, Weshahi & Partners in 2003 favoring a model of collective practice with specialization groups over the traditional office of a solo practitioner. ** Subscribe to Making it here for https://bit.ly/35lugvb. ** Subscribe to Enterprise, our 6am briefing on business, finance and economics in Egypt (also free) at www.enterprise.press. Making It is grateful for the generous support of: CIB, Egypt’s number-one private-sector bank and the partner of choice for CEOs and leaders of businesses at all stages of their growth stories The United States Agency for International Development, which has a 40 year history of inspiring Egyptian success in partnership with the Government and people of Egypt.You can check out Alieldean, Weshahi & Partners here: http://www.alc.law/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The majority of Egypt’s population are unbanked and have no access to financial services. Thanks to fintech players like Fawry, this is changing quickly — and for the better. When Ashraf Sabry founded Fawry in 2008, he knew he wanted to leverage his experience and technology in a business that had recurring revenue. Flash forward and, a decade later, Fawry is now a payments platform that connects over 29 mn customers through 166K service points across the country, and can be used for over 850 services ranging from utility bills and school tuition, to traffic fines and insurance. Ashraf talked to us about building the platform from the idea stage to becoming a major listed company on the EGX with international shareholders. He told us how the company was built with local talent, the company’s early stage challenges, and what’s next for Fawry. ** Subscribe to Making it here for https://bit.ly/35lugvb. ** Subscribe to Enterprise, our 6am briefing on business, finance and economics in Egypt (also free) at www.enterprise.press. Making It is grateful for the generous support of: CIB, Egypt’s number-one private-sector bank and the partner of choice for CEOs and leaders of businesses at all stages of their growth stories. The United States Agency for International Development, which has a 40 year history of inspiring Egyptian success in partnership with the Government and people of Egypt. You can check out Fawry here: www.fawry.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Zooba sells taamiya, not falafel. When Chris Khalifa launched Zooba in 2012, the goal was to elevate Egyptian street food from cheap, delicious, everyday sustenance to a global brand. By 2020, Zooba’s value proposition had already shaped a loyal following at home and abroad with branches in Egypt, a franchise agreement in the GCC, and a New York outpost — opened just before covid-19 hit. Chris talks to us about what it takes to change people’s perception on how much street food should cost through the power of a strong brand. We discuss introducing new food to foreign markets, teaching Westerners how to say Taamiya, and how Zooba survives economic crises. ** Subscribe to Making it here for free https://bit.ly/35lugvb. ** Subscribe to Enterprise, our 6am briefing on business, finance and economics in Egypt (also free) at www.enterprise.press. Making It is grateful for the generous support of: CIB, Egypt’s number-one private-sector bank and the partner of choice for CEOs and leaders of businesses at all stages of their growth stories The United States Agency for International Development, which has a 40 year history of inspiring Egyptian success in partnership with the Government and people of Egypt. You can check out Zooba here: www.zoobaeats.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Making It is back for its third season. Making It is a show about building great businesses in Egypt. Each episode brings you a one-on-one sit-down with a CEO or founder at the top of their game. They are leaders at the helm of businesses going through different stages of growth and they discuss with us the issues they face, the challenges they have to overcome, and what it takes to “Make it.” This is our second season to come out since Covid-19, and a full return to working from the office has yet to take place. The majority of our guests were recorded remotely. This season’s guests span industries ranging from food and retail to fintech and healthcare. Season three kicks off on Thursday, 8 October, but until then, you can catch up on season two with: Omar HagrassHoda MansourTarek Assaad and Karim HusseinSahar SalamaAmr AboueshLaila Sedky and Adel SedkyMohamed El Kalla ** Subscribe to Making it here for https://bit.ly/35lugvb. ** Subscribe to Enterprise, our 6am briefing on business, finance and economics in Egypt (also free) at www.enterprise.press. Making It is grateful for the generous support of: CIB, Egypt’s number-one private-sector bank and the partner of choice for CEOs and leaders of businesses at all stages of their growth stories. The United States Agency for International Development, which has a 40 year history of inspiring Egyptian success in partnership with the Government and people of Egypt. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Enterprise Show is an Egypt-focused business, policy and pop culture talk show, produced by Enterprise, the daily brief on all matters business, finance, and economics. Each episode will see us sit down with interesting and impactful business leaders, policy-makers, and cultural icons to discuss their life's successes, failures, and their views on major topics that shape Egypt today Listen to the pilot episode with International Cooperation Minister Rania Al Mashat here: https://bit.ly/3iGasdy See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Omar Hagrass, CEO of Trella On this week’s episode of Making It, we remotely sit down with Omar Hagrass, the CEO and co-founder of Trella, a digital trucking marketplace. The company’s application acts as a hub for shippers and carriers, eliminating the time-consuming and inefficient manual process of using brokers. Trella is a relatively new company, raising an impressive USD 600k pre-seed round led by Algebra Ventures in 2019. They joined and graduated the Y Combinator program shortly after, acquired their Egyptian rival Trukto to become the largest trucking marketplace in the country, before expanding to Saudi Arabia. As the Covid-19 pandemic presented challenges and disruptions to supply chains across the world, Trella’s technology allows shippers to gain valuable insight over their resources during a time when optimization is desperately needed. Hagrass offers advice to entrepreneurs on the intricacies of disruption and growth, and details why Trella has the potential to become the country’s first unicorn. Making It is grateful for the generous support of: CIB, Egypt’s number-one private-sector bank and the partner of choice for CEOs and leaders of businesses at all stages of their growth stories The United States Agency for International Development, which has a 40 year history of inspiring Egyptian success in partnership with the Government and people of Egypt. ** Subscribe to Making it here https://bit.ly/35lugvb. ** Subscribe to Enterprise, our 6am briefing on business, finance and economics in Egypt (also free) at www.enterprise.press. You can check out Trella here: trella.app See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hoda Mansour, Managing Director of SAP Egypt and Frontier Markets Hoda Mansour was twice recognized by Forbes as one of the most influential businesswomen in the Middle East for her work in SAP in the UAE, Oman, and Egypt. SAP’s Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) software is among the most widely used across the world, at a time when the livelihood of many businesses hinges on establishing a digital presence. She details the reasons multinationals find Egypt attractive, and outlines how to prepare for the mass adoption of automation services and its impact on the workforce. Making It is grateful for the generous support of: CIB, Egypt’s number-one private-sector bank and the partner of choice for CEOs and leaders of businesses at all stages of their growth stories The United States Agency for International Development, which has a 40 year history of inspiring Egyptian success in partnership with the Government and people of Egypt. ** Subscribe to Making it here https://kite.link/making-it. ** Subscribe to Enterprise, our 6am briefing on business, finance and economics in Egypt (also free) at www.enterprise.press. You can check out SAP here: www.sap.com/mena/index See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Algebra Ventures Managing Partners Tarek Assaad and Karim Hussein From a background of senior positions at multinationals, Algebra Ventures Managing Partners Tarek Assaad and Karim Hussein are driven by a belief that tech and entrepreneurship can enable tangible change in a region where basic services can often be major inconveniences. Established in 2015, Algebra Ventures is a USD 54 mn venture capital fund that invests in early stage tech startups in the MENA region. The fund is the largest of its kind in Egypt. Assaad and Hussein outline the most important features they look for in startups, including tackling big markets and possessing a strong management team, as well as the red flags they avoid at all costs. Our host, Patrick, sat down with Assaad and Hussein in December, before Covid-19 put us all on work from home. DISCLAIMER: Algebra Ventures Managing Partner Ziad Mokhtar could not join us for this interview. Making It is grateful for the generous support of: CIB, Egypt’s number-one private-sector bank and the partner of choice for CEOs and leaders of businesses at all stages of their growth stories The United States Agency for International Development, which has a 40 year history of inspiring Egyptian success in partnership with the Government and people of Egypt. ** Subscribe to Making it here https://bit.ly/35lugvb. ** Subscribe to Enterprise, our 6am briefing on business, finance and economics in Egypt (also free) at www.enterprise.press. You can check out Algebra Ventures here: algebraventures.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sahar Salama, Founder and CEO of TPay Mobile In a country with low banking penetration and high mobile adoption, Sahar Salama saw a business opportunity in creating a payment solution through telecom operators. She used her experience at Link Development to create a direct operator billing model and launched TPay Mobile in 2014. Launched in Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the UAE simultaneously, they now operate in over 18 markets across MENA covering almost 51 mn transactions a day. The company made headlines in 2017 by making the first wholesale acquisition of a fintech company in Egypt when they acquired their primary competitors DCBEgypt. In 2018, they became the region’s first Dragon, when A15 sold its 76% stake to Helios Investment. Salama talks to our host, Patrick, about conception, the challenges of scaling, the importance of finding the right partners, and her future plans to make TPay what she considers a great business. Making It is grateful for the generous support of: CIB, Egypt’s number-one private-sector bank and the partner of choice for CEOs and leaders of businesses at all stages of their growth stories The United States Agency for International Development, which has a 40 year history of inspiring Egyptian success in partnership with the Government and people of Egypt. ** Subscribe to Making it here https://bit.ly/35lugvb. ** Subscribe to Enterprise, our 6am briefing on business, finance and economics in Egypt (also free) at www.enterprise.press. You can check out TPay at: tpaymobile.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Having served as Executive Advisor for Microsofinance at Banque du Caire and then as head of the microfinance and SMEs division at the Bank of Alexandria, Amro Abouesh believed in private sector financing as a means to enable social mobility within the low income sector of society. By founding Tanmeyah in 2009, Amro effectively launched private microfinance in Egypt and helped bring in Egypt’s leading private equity, commercial and investment banks. Today Tanmeyah sits at the top of the industry with over 270 branches across the country and an EGP 3.5 bn portfolio. Abouesh walks us through the risk assessment process and his experience navigating policy and legislation to establish Tanmeyah and private microfinance. Making It is grateful for the generous support of: CIB, Egypt’s number-one private-sector bank and the partner of choice for CEOs and leaders of businesses at all stages of their growth stories. The United States Agency for International Development, which has a 40 year history of inspiring Egyptian success in partnership with the Government and people of Egypt. ** Subscribe to Making it here https://bit.ly/35lugvb. ** Subscribe to Enterprise, our 6am briefing on business, finance and economics in Egypt (also free) at www.enterprise.press. You can check out Tanmeyah at tanmeyah.com/en See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Laila Sedky and Adel Sedky, Founder and CEO of NOLA As Founder and CEO of one of the most recognizable brands in the confectionary business, Laila and Adel understand the business of selling happiness. Their tenure at Nola saw them grow the brand beyond the flagship store in Zamalek to a confectionary giant with 25 stores across 7 cities. From leading the local cupcake craze to making pivotal decisions on the sustainability of their brand and the subsequent reorienting of their customers, all while dishing out fresh and exciting takes on classic Egyptian desserts, Laila and Adel are experts at marketing and operations, looking beyond trends, and separating between work and family. Making It is grateful for the generous support of: CIB, Egypt’s number-one private-sector bank and the partner of choice for CEOs and leaders of businesses at all stages of their growth stories The United States Agency for International Development, which has a 40 year history of inspiring Egyptian success in partnership with the Government and people of Egypt. ** Subscribe to Making it here https://bit.ly/35lugvb. ** Subscribe to Enterprise, our 6am briefing on business, finance and economics in Egypt (also free) at www.enterprise.press. You can check out NOLA’ extensive range of products on their website or instagram. www.nolabakery.com https://www.instagram.com/nolacupcakes See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mohamed El Kalla, CEO of Cairo for Investment and Real Estate (CIRA). As the head of one of the largest private sector education operators, El Kalla is someone who understands the business of education. He has seen the seismic shifts in the industry over the past few decades: from family-owned businesses to corporations, from Cairo and Alex to the other governorates, from the super wealthy to the middle class, from individual shareholders to IPOs and private equity, and from the classroom to your home. CIRA has even led the way on a number of these trends. His tenure saw him lead the company through a successful relisting on the EGX in 2018, which fueled a massive expansion. The company has 19 K-12 schools, one university, and over 30k students under their belt. Their lineup of brands now includes Futures, Maverick schools, British Columbia schools, and Badr University, among others. His active investment in education tech startups has kept him abreast of all the exciting new developments in e-learning and education platforms. And this was all before covid-19, where the millenia-old tradition of the classroom was rendered archaic in a span of a few months. The impact this transformation has had on our lives cannot be understated. School children now have to act like online grad school students and parents have had to become teaching assistants. Yet despite this transformation, the transition has appeared almost seamless. Having been on the frontline of that transformation, El Kalla gave us a first hand account of how hard it was to get us here. This is also the first podcast interview we’ve done entirely from home, making it the most appropriate episode to kick off what we hope is an exciting new season. You can listen to the episode on: Web | Apple Podcast | Google Podcast ** Subscribe to Making it here for https://bit.ly/35lugvb. ** Subscribe to Enterprise, our 6am briefing on business, finance and economics in Egypt (also free) at www.enterprise.press. Making It is grateful for the generous support of: CIB, Egypt’s number-one private-sector bank and the partner of choice for CEOs and leaders of businesses at all stages of their growth storiesThe United States Agency for International Development, which has a 40 year history of inspiring Egyptian success in partnership with the Government and people of Egypt. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Making It in the time of covid-19: Making It is back for its second season. Making It is a show about building great businesses in Egypt. Each episode brings you a one-on-one sit-down with a CEO or founder at the top of their game. They are leaders at the helm of businesses going through different stages of growth and they discuss with us the issues they face, the challenges they have to overcome, and what it takes to “Make it.” This happens to be our first season where we had to record outside the studio, courtesy of covid-19. So you’ll have to forgive us if you hear any dogs barking in the background. This is a weird time for us all, and especially for businesses, so we felt it was important to get a season out during this time, dedicate a few episodes to discuss the microbial elephant in the room, in addition to giving you guys something to kill a few hours during the lockdown. Season 2 kicks off on Thursday, 23 April — just in time for Ramadan. Our guests this season come from a myriad of backgrounds such as microfinance, cupcakes (also just in time for Ramadan), fintech, and education. In the meantime, you can listen to our season 2 trailer, where our hosts, Patrick and Hisham, chat about their lives in quarantine, explain why the season is coming out now, and give a bit of a sneak peek as to what you can expect to hear in upcoming episodes. Patrick has also been doling out advice and thoughts on how to manage your business and teams during this unprecedented crisis in his What’s Next blog. You can read some of these here: What if we could start from scratch? What would we build?You don’t need to talk about covid-19 and your company as much as you think you doYour 1Q earnings: How to manage your board through covid-199 steps to build your own bailout package to see your business through covid-19 Want to catch up on season 1? You have seven days to get caught up with seven CEOs and founders: Lina MowafyHani BerziHazem MoussaFatma GhaliKarim AwadKarim El Sahy and Abeer El SisiJalal Abugazaleh ** Subscribe to Making it here for https://bit.ly/35lugvb. ** Subscribe to Enterprise, our 6am briefing on business, finance and economics in Egypt (also free) at www.enterprise.press. Making It is grateful for the generous support of: CIB, Egypt’s number-one private-sector bank and the partner of choice for CEOs and leaders of businesses at all stages of their growth stories The United States Agency for International Development, which has a 40 year history of inspiring Egyptian success in partnership with the Government and people of Egypt. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.