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Episode 016: More Space or More Time?

Whole mix of joinery stuff on today's show! We've got a bit of follow-up on the joinery education discussion and sadly no follow-up on the women in construction side. We're also chatting about slippy glue joints, clamps, lack of space vs lack of time, bad audio on YouTube, the grain of MDF and some exciting news about Makers Central next year! Access the aftershow at: Links: Makers Central 2019 Experienced Workers Practical Assessment Route - EWPAR...


Episode 015: Joinery Education and Women in Construction

We're delving in to two BIG topics today. We often get asked about the importance of being a qualified or 'time served' carpenter so we're chatting about the current state of woodworking education in the UK in 2018. We're also discussing women in the construction industry - where are they? These are two huge topics and we'd love to hear your feedback - doubtless we'll chat more about this in future episodes. Access the aftershow at: Thanks so much...


Episode 014: Cheap Tools vs Pro Tools – Tool Vanity?

We're talking about a whole load of little topics today. From buying larger tools and the pros and cons of going second hand, through to cheap tools vs expensive tools and how that impacts your business image. We also chat about air tools, air nailers and Andy has a new shiny CBN grinding wheel. Is it possible to organise drill bits or should we just give up? We're doing some job pricing in the aftershow. Access the aftershow at: Links: Stumpy Nubs...


Episode 013: Business Web Site, Tax & Record Keeping

Today we're talking about the importance of having a business web site and why it should be the hub of your business. We're also chatting about the dreaded business admin - from tax and accounts through to a very brief overview of our own business structures. Access the aftershow at: Thanks so much to Ooznest for sponsoring this episode - check them out at and don't forget the offer code measureup at checkout for 5% off your...


Episode 012: Analysis Paralysis and What To Do With Trade Waste?

In today's show we're chatting about where to start on bigger carpentry jobs and overcoming analysis paralysis. We discuss waiting lists, typical joinery enquiries and doing work for the rich and famous. We're also discussing trade waste from a joinery business and what on earth you're supposed to do with it in the UK. There's also a bit of industry news, Andy's Arduino measuring jig, safety glasses and football talk... kind of. Access the aftershow at:...


Episode 011: We’re back! Upping Your Game and Don’t Read the Comments!

Welcome back to Season 2 of the Measuring Up Podcast! We've had a scorchingly hot summer here in the UK, which makes a nice change. Andy talks about his adventures in London and Peter has been upgrading his tech. We're also chatting about upping our game and the dangers of reading too much in to the YouTube comments. AND we've got a brand new Patreon-only exclusive aftershow! Access the aftershow at: Links: Keith's Rag n' Bone Brown channel Peter's...


Episode 010: Season 1 Finale! How To Make a Podcast & Will There Be a Season 2?

This is the final episode of Season 1! How did that happen?! Today we're talking a bit more about spray painting in a small workshop, we give you an end of season 'golden tip' each and we give you a very high level overview of what's involved in making a podcast. So the big question is, are we going to do a Season 2?? You'll have to listen to find out what happens next... Links: Levelator Rag 'n' Bone Brown, Keith Brown's Biscuit Joint Test Sean Tucker Photography Follow Us: Subscribe to...


Episode 009: Spray Painting, YouTube AI & Recommended Woodworking Books

Peter's finished his biggest carpentry build & install to date and is now having to hang pictures. Andy's finished his latest exhibition install work and has finally had time to make a new studio desk. Today we're chatting about spray painting in a small workshop and whether this is a viable alternative to the brush and roller. We're also discussing YouTube and whether it's still a viable platform for makers. Finally, woodworking, joinery & carpentry books - a bit of recommended reading for...


Episode 008: GDPR for Sole Traders, MDF and Target Customers

GDPR was implemented in the EU on 25th May 2018. We're having a bit of a chat about what that could mean for small joinery businesses. We also discuss MDF, where we buy it and what we look for along with target markets for our joinery work and YouTube. Links: GDPR Guidelines from UK ICO ICO Self-Assessment Register for GDPR Sample Privacy Policy The Shop Stool Podcast Hypercritical Podcast Freakonomics Radio Podcast Follow Us: Subscribe to Peter's 10 Minute Workshop channel on YouTube...


Episode 007: Makers Central 2018, Festool MFT & Keeping Healthy

Andy's back from Makers Central 2018 and Peter's back from New York! We're having a bit of a chat about Makers Central and what it means for the UK woodworking community. We find out a bit more about Peter's Festool MFT and how that can help small workshops. We're also discussing the trials and tribulations of running a joinery business and why it's so important to look after your own health - from RSI through to housemaid's knee and tendinitis, you can't earn any money while you can't use...


Episode 006: Cabinet Doors and the Metric vs Imperial Debate

Today we're talking about trigger words and things that put you on edge as a joiner. We also have a good rant about metric vs imperial and discuss cabinet door construction. Andy wants to redesign all tape measures and Peter chats about visualising areas in square feet. Links: Superior Levels Nick Zammeti Longstaffs of County Durham Thomas Nagy Strawbyte Workshop Follow Us: Subscribe to Peter's 10 Minute Workshop channel on YouTube Subscribe to Andy's Gosforth Handyman channel on YouTube...


Episode 005: Overly Complicated Pricing of Floating Shelves

Peter chats about his first experiences with paint spraying and we go in to the real detail of one of the most standard bread & butter joinery jobs, the installation of floating shelves. Andy discusses his ridiculously overly complicated pricing spreadsheet and confirms why you can't compete with IKEA prices. Links: Giant Squid Audio Lab lav mic - UK affiliate link & USA affiliate link Keith Brown (Rag 'n Bone Brown) on YouTube Andreeson Horowitz A16Z Podcast Bluetooth Connected Tape Measure...


Episode 004: Mobile Tech, Parking Rants and Apple vs Android

Today we’re talking a bit more about the tech used on jobs, from parking apps through to literally ‘measuring up’ tips. Peter explains the real cost of parking in London and Andy starts his first in a multi-part series of rants about the local council. Links: Jimmy DiResta on YouTube Gary Thomson Joinery on YouTube KingPost TimberWorks on YouTube Forgotten Joinery Techniques Video Mike Farrington - Edge Tech MDF Edge Grain Sanding Makers International Podcast The Dusty Life Podcast Follow...


Episode 003: Joinery Day Rates and Managing a Small Workshop

In this episode we continue on the theme of business management from last time and discuss hourly and daily rates for carpentry work, briefly discuss some of the technology used in our daily routine and also chat about surviving in a small workshop. Links: Tour of Peter's Workshop Tour of Andy's Workshop Both of the above are from Summer 2017 so if you’re looking at this in the future things will probably have changed a bit! Air Quality Monitor (affiliate link) Phil Makes Things on YouTube...


Episode 002: Getting Our Joinery Businesses Off the Ground

Peter and Andy have a quick chat about current jobs and discuss how they built up their joinery businesses over the years. What marketing worked for each business and how has this changed over the years? They touch on job pricing, contracts and the sales process from first customer contact through to job completion. Links: Hello Internet Podcast Fools with Tools Podcast The Menu Bar Podcast Follow Us: Subscribe to Peter's 10 Minute Workshop channel on YouTube Subscribe to Andy's Gosforth...


Episode 001: Welcome to the Measuring Up Podcast with Peter Millard and Andy MacLellan

Andy and Peter discuss how they entered the world of commercial joinery. From an early age both had a background in making things and in this podcast we find out how their carpentry and cabinet making businesses evolved to where they are now, both through slightly unconventional routes. Links: Protractor Podcast Making It Podcast Matt Cremona on YouTube Follow Us: Subscribe to Peter's 10 Minute Workshop channel on YouTube Subscribe to Andy's Gosforth Handyman channel on YouTube Subscribe to...