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She's On The Money

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Australia’s #1 finance podcast. Ready to take control of your money without the stress (or boring lectures)? This is the show for you. Hosted by award-winning financial expert and your ultimate money hype girl, Victoria Devine, SOTM makes personal finance relatable, empowering, and —yes—actually fun. Join a community of 400,000+ smashing their financial goals, from buying their first property to learning to invest, levelling up their careers, or tackling budgeting, saving and debt— all without giving up their morning latte. From Deep Dives into the topics you care about, to pervy looks at real-life Money Diaries or cheeky Friday Drinks money talk with the girls, Victoria and her team make finance feel like your group chat—just way better for your bank balance. It's honest, relatable and non-judgmental talk about personal finance, investing, real estate, career and business... with a big dose of fun.

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Australia’s #1 finance podcast. Ready to take control of your money without the stress (or boring lectures)? This is the show for you. Hosted by award-winning financial expert and your ultimate money hype girl, Victoria Devine, SOTM makes personal finance relatable, empowering, and —yes—actually fun. Join a community of 400,000+ smashing their financial goals, from buying their first property to learning to invest, levelling up their careers, or tackling budgeting, saving and debt— all without giving up their morning latte. From Deep Dives into the topics you care about, to pervy looks at real-life Money Diaries or cheeky Friday Drinks money talk with the girls, Victoria and her team make finance feel like your group chat—just way better for your bank balance. It's honest, relatable and non-judgmental talk about personal finance, investing, real estate, career and business... with a big dose of fun.

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English


Episodes
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Hey Hun: What an MLM Million Dollar Earner Wants You to Know (Part 1)

12/20/2024
We got the scoop from a million-dollar MLM insider—and it’s juicier than you think. In this special episode, Victoria chats with Emily Lynn Paulson, a real-life MLM millionaire who had it all—until she decided to expose the truth. From the shiny promises of freedom and community to the shocking reality at the top, Emily reveals how MLMs prey on women and keep them hooked. She reached the peak of the pyramid, and now she’s here to tear it all down. Don’t miss the insider secrets the MLM industry doesn’t want you to hear! Learn more about Emily Lynn Paulson and her book Hey, Hun: Sales, Sisterhood, Supremacy, and the Other Lies Behind Multilevel Marketing here. Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:00:43:34

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Are Christmas Bonuses Just a Festive Myth?

12/19/2024
You’ve survived the year, and secretly dreaming of a little extra something in your paycheck. But then—no Christmas bonus in sight. Is it a sign you’re undervalued at work, or just the way things are these days? This week, the V, Jess and Bec dive into the great Christmas bonus debate: are they a must-have to feel appreciated, or just a festive myth. We’re also dishing out some festive cheer with budget-friendly hacks to save on decorations and gifts—because who knew tinsel could cost so much?! Plus, we’ve got your back for those awkward holiday chats, like when your mates side-eye your investment choices. Hit play for some laughs, life lessons, and a whole lot of holiday spirit as we help you stay merry and money-smart this season. Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:01:05:40

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Managing People in the Workplace

12/17/2024
Managing people can feel like a maze—whether you’re running a business, managing a team, or just trying to survive office politics. In this Business Bible episode, we’re cutting through the noise and giving you practical, no-nonsense tips for managing people like a pro. From building a team culture to mastering feedback, and creating clear HR policies (that actually work), this episode is packed with advice to help you navigate the workplace with confidence. And don’t worry—it’s not just for business owners; these tips are universal, so whether you’re hiring your first employee or leveling up in your career, we’ve got you covered. Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:00:38:54

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What It’s Really Like to Raise Twins (And Battle Double the Costs)

12/15/2024
Twins in a pandemic? Talk about a curveball. This week’s Money Diarist faced double the costs with none of the extra support, but she found a way to turn her finances around. Now, she’s sharing how she paid off debt, started investing, and built a budget that works—even with two four-year-olds running around! Curious how she did it? Hit play to find out. Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:00:32:24

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Kangen Water: Miracle Product or MLM Trap

12/13/2024
What do a $6,500 water machine, misleading promises of financial freedom, and a whole lot of pseudoscience have in common? This week, Victoria dives deep into one of the most predatory MLM schemes yet—unpacking how high-pressure sales tactics and debt traps leave people drowning, not thriving. From bogus health claims to a compensation plan so confusing it’s practically a trap, this episode pulls back the curtain on how these schemes exploit vulnerability and sell dreams that often turn into financial nightmares. Whether you’ve been curious about the “magic” of Kangen water or just love a good MLM takedown, this episode will fire you up with facts, expose the truth, and empower you to spot the red flags before they reel you in. Don’t miss this deep dive into the dark side of "too good to be true." Tune in now! Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:00:28:47

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Big Financial Decision Drama

12/12/2024
This week’s episode has everything: baking tips, big financial decisions, and a whole lot of laughs. From Victoria’s breakdown of a sky-high interest car loan to a partner splurging on a second ute (and now eyeing a boat) to the the all-too-relatable Christmas gift stress and offer ideas for navigating the holiday season without overspending or losing your sanity. Whether you’re here for practical advice, broke tips, or just a festive laugh, this episode has something for everyone. Hit play to join the chaos and walk away a little wiser! Anne That English Cleaner Lady! Tik Tok Pecan pie cookie recipe. Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:00:59:16

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Holiday Hustles

12/10/2024
It’s the most wonderful time of the year… to make some extra cash! This week, we’re unwrapping creative ways to boost your bank balance while embracing the festive cheer. From turning your clutter into cash to capitalising on last-minute holiday errands, we’re sharing practical, fun, and totally doable ways to make the most of the silly season. Whether you’re funding gifts or prepping for the New Year, these tips will help you hustle with holiday spirit and a little extra jingle in your pocket. Hit play to sleigh your budget! Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:00:30:30

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How a Side Hustle Paid Off Debt and Funded Big Travel Dreams

12/8/2024
What if your side hustle could cover your bills, tackle your debt, and send you off on your dream holiday? This week’s Money Diarist shows us exactly how they made it happen. With financial stress, and a serious case of wanderlust, they looked at what they had and unlocked a clever side hustle that changed everything. This episode is packed with juicy insights, practical tips, and some seriously relatable moments. Whether you’re looking to crush your debt, save smarter, or just dream a little bigger, this one’s for you. Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:00:56:42

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How to Create a Magical Christmas on Any Budget

12/6/2024
Do you ever feel like Christmas has become all about spending big and stressing out? This week, we’re rethinking what makes the festive season truly magical. From heartfelt traditions to finding joy in the little things, we’re sharing how to create a meaningful holiday without blowing the budget. Victoria opens up about her first Christmas as a new mum and the moments that matter most, reminding us that it’s not about what you buy—it’s about what you cherish. Tune in for inspiration, feel-good vibes, and a reminder that the best holiday memories come free of charge. Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:00:17:46

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Is My Landlord Even Allowed to Do That?

12/5/2024
Ever thought, 'Is my landlord allowed to do that?'? Well this Friday, we’re diving into that question every renter has asked at some point. From bond dramas to boundary-pushing behaviour, we’re unpacking your rights as a tenant and how to protect yourself when things get tricky. But that’s not all—this episode is packed with money dilemmas, like navigating financial curveballs right after buying your first home and figuring out what to do when your partner’s business starts impacting your own finances. Plus, we’re celebrating listener wins (a $14 cast iron cookware steal!) and sharing broke tips to make your festive season merry without busting your budget. Tune in for real talk, smart advice, and a big dose of Friday fun! The book we’ve all been waiting for—The Business Bible—is finally here! This is Victoria's ultimate guide to levelling up your hustle, career, or big biz dreams. Grab your copy here. Join our She's on the Money community...Instagram and Facebook Group Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:00:54:59

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Why This Year’s Hottest Gift Is Investing

12/3/2024
This year, skip the socks and candles and give a present that actually compounds! We’re upgrading your holiday gifting game with thoughtful presents that don’t just sit on a shelf—they grow. Imagine giving your loved ones a head start on their financial future with beginner-friendly gifts like shares, ETFs, or even investment bonds (trust us, they’re cooler than they sound). This episode is your ultimate guide to investing-inspired gifts with serious glow-up potential. Whether you’re working with $20 or $200, we’ll show you how to make gifting investments fun, personal, and packed with long-term value. Say goodbye to boring gifts and hello to building wealth—one present at a time. If you want to give yourself gift this season, join the Finance Foundations Workshop on December 6th for practical, no-BS advice on budgeting, saving, tackling debt, and investing basics—plus a live Q&A with Victoria! It’s online, just an hour, and includes a replay. Your future self will thank you! More deets here. Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:00:28:44

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Getting Fired Was the Best Thing That Ever Happened to Me

12/1/2024
Can being fired actually be the best thing that ever happens to you? This week’s Money Diarist was blindsided by her boss and the universe when she got fired from her $60k job—just months after they gave her a bonus. She was left feeling overwhelmed, lost, and battling imposter syndrome. Fast forward: she's now thriving with a six-figure income, a stellar investment portfolio, and a no-property-required path to financial freedom. When life throws curveballs; this is how you hit them out of the park. Tune in to hear this inspirational story! Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:00:56:42

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Why MLMs Are So Hard to Leave—And How to Do It Anyway

11/29/2024
This episode has been one of the most requested since we began unpacking the world of multi-level marketing. Whether you’re ready to leave yourself or trying to help someone you care about, we’ve got you covered. We’re breaking down why MLMs are so hard to walk away from, how to protect your finances as you exit, and how to handle those tricky conversations with friends or loved ones still involved. If you’ve ever felt stuck, overwhelmed, or unsure of what to do next, this episode is your guide to reclaiming your money, your freedom, and your relationships—starting today. Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:00:29:48

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Why Your Dad’s Super Advice Might Be Costing You Thousands

11/28/2024
Ever had money opinions that seriously clash with your parents? This episode is here to gently (okay, not-so-gently) challenge those outdated views and help you take control. It’s time to reframe the super conversation—not just with your parents but with your partner too. Because fair’s fair, right? If raising kids is a team effort, shouldn’t your retirement be too? We’re also breaking down the sneaky world of credit card interest—how it works, why your statement might not match what you owe, and how to stay ahead of it. And don’t worry, we’ve got all your Friday Drinks favourites too: money wins, broke tips, and a big ol’ serve of laughs. So grab a cocktail (or mocktail), settle in, and hit play! This Black Friday, invest in you! Our course bundles are on sale—your chance to level up your finances, build wealth, and hit those goals. Click here for all the deets... The book we’ve all been waiting for—The Business Bible—is finally here! This is Victoria's ultimate guide to levelling up your hustle, career, or big biz dreams. Grab your copy here. Join our She's on the Money community...Instagram and Facebook Group Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:00:53:06

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Business Diaries: How Brittney Saunders Built Fayt

11/26/2024
No business degree? No problem. Brittany Saunders went from YouTube star to fashion powerhouse by figuring it out as she went—and she’s here to tell us how. In our first-ever Business Diary, Brittney gets real about the highs and lows of building a business from scratch—think: launching from a garage, learning everything from Google, and tackling the unexpected challenges of managing a growing team. Whether you’re dreaming of starting your own thing or just love an inspiring story of grit and hustle, Brittany’s candid insights and lessons learned will leave you feeling empowered and ready to take on your own goals. This one’s packed with advice, laughs, and a big dose of honesty. Hit play and get inspired! The book we’ve all been waiting for—The Business Bible—is finally here! This is Victoria's ultimate guide to levelling up your hustle, career, or big biz dreams. Grab your copy here. Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:01:00:06

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When Life Throws Curveballs, Here’s How to Smash Your Goals Anyway

11/24/2024
Can you go from financial chaos to building the life of your dreams? This week’s Money Diarist says YES. After navigating redundancy, a work injury, and realising they spent $10k on coffee, they built their dream home, crushed debt, and are planning for early retirement. This episode is packed with resilience, real talk, and practical money tips to help you do the same. Hit play to find out how they did it. This Black Friday, invest in you! Our course bundles are on sale—your chance to level up your finances, build wealth, and hit those goals. Click here for all the deets... Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:00:30:09

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So, Is Affiliate Marketing a Scam Too?

11/22/2024
Have you seen those bold claims all over social media? Promises to make millions working just a few hours a day from your phone, all thanks to ‘affiliate marketing’? Since we started calling out MLMs, our DMs have been popping off with another big question: ‘Is affiliate marketing a scam too?’ In this episode, we’re breaking it all down—what affiliate marketing actually is, how it works when it’s legit, and the red flags you need to spot so you don’t fall into a trap. Tune in to find out how to tell the difference between real side hustles and the flashy schemes trying to reel you in. Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:00:17:39

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When Bridal Parties Turn Into Money Dramas

11/21/2024
Let’s talk bridal parties and the money dramas that no one warns you about! This week, we’re tackling a juicy listener dilemma: what happens to your money when you drop out as a bridesmaid? Is it fair for them to keep the cash, or is that just bad friendship vibes? We’ve got opinions (so many opinions). But that’s not all—we’re diving into another sticky situation: how honest do you really need to be with your bank? Plus all the usual Friday Drinks shenanigans. It’s fun, it’s spicy, and it’s packed with tips you need to hear! This Black Friday, invest in you! Our course bundles are on sale—your chance to level up your finances, build wealth, and hit those goals. Click here for all the deets... Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:00:49:55

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Community-Tested Christmas Hacks

11/19/2024
With the cost of living climbing higher than Santa’s sleigh, Christmas might feel more stressful than merry this year—but don’t worry, we’ve got you! In this episode, Bec and Victoria are stuffing your stocking with community-tested Christmas hacks to help you sleigh your holiday spending. From saving on gifts and food to clever DIY ideas, this episode is packed with practical tips to keep your festivities joyful and budget-friendly. So grab some eggnog, switch on those fairy lights, and let’s deck the halls without draining your wallet! Oh and we have a Black Friday sale going on that's all about investing in you! Our course bundles are your chance to level up your finances, build wealth, and hit those goals. Click here for all the deets... Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:00:38:02

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When Your Dream Job Isn’t Enough to Pay the Bills

11/17/2024
This week’s Money Diarist has a surprising twist: her biggest financial hurdle isn’t overspending or splurging... it’s her other job! By day, she’s a full-time public servant, but by night, she’s a comedian chasing her dream—even when it costs her more than it earns. From the challenges of balancing passion and practicality to the financial highs and lows of creative work, this story is equal parts relatable and inspiring. Tune in for a behind-the-scenes look at what it really takes to follow your heart (and still pay the bills). Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Duración:00:41:24