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Ido Genosar is the CEO and Founder of Verobotics, the pioneering robotics solution for building façade maintenance, inspection, and upkeep. Prior to this, he led innovation at Aluminium Construction, Israel’s biggest façade constructor. His diverse background in building exteriors, technology and global business development is at the core of his mission to solve deep-rooted inefficiencies with breakthrough innovation. (00:50) - “Miracle” Robotics (02:50) - What the Façade Robot Does (03:11) - Humanoids vs. Task-Specific Robots (04:28) - Why Robotics Demos Fail in the Real World (06:05) - VC Lens on Robotics (09:13) - Funding & Adoption Reality (12:48) - Façades as a Data Blind Spot (15:11) - Construction Signoff & Compliance (16:00) - Unions, Scaffolding & Safety (18:07) - New Data-driven Decisions (20:52) - Where's the Long-Term Value (29:33) - Humans in the Loop (31:48) - Best-Fit Buildings Today (33:03) - Robots in 5 to 10 Years (36:43) - Collaboration Superpower: Sir James Dyson, Leonardo Torres 💚 Learn more: ➡️ Visit Verobotics ➡️ Ido Genosar on LinkedIn 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Zach Schofel is the Co-Founder and CEO of Cosign, a data-driven guarantor platform helping property owners and managers boost economic occupancy while expanding housing options for renters. Cosign aims to redefine renter underwriting and help multifamily owners convert more demand into leases. He is also a Principal at Eastman Residential, the largest buyers of distress student housing in the country. He leads a portfolio of 3,000+ multifamily units across the US, with a focus on student housing and value-add multifamily strategies. (01:34) - The Eastman Residential Story (02:29) - Cosign Origin (03:39) - Limits of Credit Scores (06:46) - Fraud Screening Landscape (08:05) - Scale of the Problem (11:54) - Underwriting Signals (13:25) - Value creation in Multifamily tech (15:49) - How VC Underwrites Insurtech (18:06) - Feature: Blueprint: The Future of Real Estate 2026 in Vegas on Sep. 22-24 (20:35) - Cosign’s Differentiation (24:17) - Mark Cuban’s Investment (26:21) - AI in Operations (28:18) - Collaboration Superpower: Jared Kushner & Philip Hubert 💚 Learn more: ➡️ Visit Cosign ➡️ Zach Schofel on LinkedIn 💚 Feature: ➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass. 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Oded Noy is the Chief Technology Officer at Crexi, where he leads the development of technology transforming the commercial real estate industry. A serial entrepreneur, mentor, and investor, Oded previously co-founded TrueCar, helping scale it through its IPO, and has been a longtime managing partner at Amplify.LA, an early-stage venture fund. With a track record of building and advising high-growth SaaS companies, Oded brings deep expertise in scaling platforms, driving innovation, and building high-performing teams. Known for his philosophy that great work comes from being part of something bigger than yourself, he is also a passionate advocate for mentorship and developing the next generation of builders. (01:43) - Crexi's Evolution (02:55) - The CRE Info Problem (03:13) - Why Docs Create Bottlenecks (06:42) - Information vs Intelligence in CRE (08:54) - Proprietary Data Advantage (09:28) - Lessons from TrueCar for CRE (10:07) - Crexi Vault (11:25) - Becoming the CRE OS (13:56) - Build vs Buy in the AI Era (17:14) - Vibe Coding Inside Real Estate Firms (21:52) - Feature: Blueprint: The Future of Real Estate 2026 in Vegas on Sep. 22-24 (22:43) - How AI Compresses Deal Cycles (24:29) - What Differentiates Winners in CRE (30:48) - What Gets Automated Next (35:39) - Collaboration Superpower: Geoffrey Hinton & Marcus Licinius Crassus 💚 Learn more: ➡️ Visit Crexi ➡️ Oded Noy on LinkedIn 💚 Feature: ➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass. 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Adam Segal is the Co-Founder and CEO of cove, a property operations and tenant experience platform used across 3,500 buildings in the US, and 15% of office buildings in Manhattan, NYC. He started as an operator, building and managing a network of coworking spaces, which led to creating cove as an in-house solution to run building operations more efficiently. Under his leadership, cove has grown into a unified platform that replaces fragmented systems across access, maintenance, visitor management, and tenant engagement, and is trusted by major institutional owners including RXR, Silverstein, Nuveen, and Blackstone, powering operations in assets like Chicago's Willis Tower. Adam focuses on solving real operational problems for property teams first, then scaling those solutions across portfolios to improve efficiency, retention, and overall asset performance. (02:01) - From Coworking to cove (03:19) - Platform & Asset Focus (05:08) - Willis Tower (07:05) - How cove Wins Buildings (10:04) - Change Management Playbook (13:11) - Operational Blind Spots (15:46) - Owner vs 3rd-party Management (18:12) - Feature: CREtech New York (19:35) - How Tenants Use cove (23:37) - AI in Property Operations (26:36) - Real-Time Feedback (29:05) - Staying Through Asset Sales (30:36) - Collaboration Superpower: Thomas A. Edison 💚 Feature: ➡️ CREtech - Join CREtech New York 2026 on Oct 20-21 for the largest Real Estate Meetings program. Qualified Real Estate pros get free full event pass plus up to $800 in travel and hotel costs. For 20% off on 'The Pass for Everyone', use code partnertangentproptech20 or click here. 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Brian Turner is the CEO of OTI, a master systems integrator that connects HVAC, lighting, and building systems into unified platforms to drive operational and energy efficiency, and ESG performance across the built environment. With over 30 years of experience in building automation, Brian has worked closely with major property owners to advance system integration and building data strategies. Prior to OTI, he led Controlco and later BuildingsIOT, where he helped shape the evolution of smart building infrastructure and IoT-driven operations. At OTI, Brian is focused on transforming how buildings operate by bringing together fragmented systems into a single, intelligent layer—making buildings smarter, more efficient, and easier to manage. (01:40) - What's OTI (02:32) - 30 Years of Building Technology (04:13) - The Retrofit Opportunity (05:55) - Why LEED Performance Slips (07:03) - Investing in Energy Technology (11:17) - A Unified Brain for Buildings (14:48) - How OTI Engages Clients (16:08) - Product Roadmap (18:55) - Regulation vs Real Market Drivers (19:59) - Comfort Across Asset Classes (25:27) - Feature: Blueprint: The Future of Real Estate 2026 in Vegas on Sep. 22-24 (26:19) - Local Law 97 (27:49) - When Owners Take Action on Energy (34:33) - Split Incentives in Leases (38:12) - Passive House Needs Operational Technology (40:20) - Wireless & Lower Retrofit Costs (44:49) - Where AI Adds Value (48:20) - Collaboration Superpower: Albert Einstein and Claude Shannon 💚 Learn more: ➡️ Visit OTI ➡️ Brian Turner on LinkedIn 💚 Feature: ➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass. 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Michael Feldman is the former CEO and Co-Founder of Choice New York Companies, a group of firms providing property management, building staffing, and brokerage services to medium and large residential buildings across New York City. He built the company from zero revenue to roughly $27M in revenue and $5.1M in EBITDA before selling the business to Associa Corp. in 2021. Today, Michael remains active in the real estate industry as a real estate and tech investor and advisor, bringing decades of operational experience building and scaling service platforms in the New York multifamily market and beyond. (01:17) - From Hollywood to New York Real Estate (03:35) - How PM Models Evolved (04:50) - Decision to Exit in 2021 (05:59) - Why Few New Entrants & Barriers to Entry (09:49) - AI Use Cases in Property Management (12:00) - Feature: Blueprint: The Future of Real Estate 2026 in Vegas on Sep. 22-24 (12:51) - 'War' Stories (16:05) - M&A & Industry Consolidation (20:51) - Collaboration Superpower: Winston Churchill 💚 Learn more: ➡️ Visit Choice NY Management ➡️ Michael Feldman on LinkedIn 💚 Feature: ➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass. 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

“The most curious person in multifamily,” Moshe Crane is the VP of Branding and Strategic Initiatives at Sage Ventures, a Maryland-based real estate investment and management firm focused on multifamily and other asset acquisitions and development in the Baltimore-Washington corridor. The company manages more than $1B in assets and over 4,000 apartment units while developing and selling new homes. Moshe also hosts the Curious Wire podcast and writes the Curious Deal newsletter, where he breaks down multifamily deals, careers, and industry trends while exploring how operators build, finance, and scale real estate businesses. (01:45) - Moshe’s Real Estate Path (02:32) - Deals Returning to the Market (06:05) - Sage Ventures' Market Focus (07:27) - Defining Great Operators (08:27) - The Third-Party Talent Crunch (10:17) - Systems Beat Stars (12:36) - The Sage Operations Playbook (15:47) - Fraud Screening Tools (19:01) - The Roving Team Mindset (21:05) - Moshe’s Role (23:56) - Feature: CREtech New York Oct. 20–21 (25:52) - The Accidental Self-Storage Win (26:41) - Office-to-Storage Conversions (28:21) - A Scrappy Deal Mix (28:58) - Low-Basis Development Opportunities (29:46) - Pitching Flexibility to LPs (30:26) - No Gurus, Just Operators (33:58) - Discipline Over Vertical Integration (36:19) - PropTech Ecosystem Shifts (39:38) - Proptech Adoption (44:42) - Motivation, Curiosity & Faith (49:31) - Collaboration Superpower: Bill Walsh 💚 Learn more: ➡️ Visit Sage Ventures ➡️ Moshe Crane on LinkedIn ➡️ Curious Deal newsletter 💚 Feature: ➡️ CREtech - Join CREtech New York 2026 on Oct 20-21 for the largest Real Estate Meetings program. Qualified Real Estate pros get free full event pass plus up to $800 in travel and hotel costs. For 20% off on 'The Pass for Everyone', use code partnertangentproptech20 or click here. 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Shahar Goldboim is the Founder and CEO of Boom, an AI-enabled property management platform for short-term rental portfolios built by operators. Shahar is an entrepreneur and builder, and he launched Boom with his two sibblings after identifying real-world operational pain points inside a large South Florida property management company as it scaled. Under his leadership, Boom delivers comprehensive software that simplifies workflows, increases revenue, and reduces costs for property managers. (02:15) - Why Short-Term Rentals Are the Hardest Asset Class (02:44) - Fragmentation and the Review-Driven Revenue Trap (04:13) - The Spark: A Miami Airbnb Experiment (05:30) - From Airbnb Host to Property Manager (07:31) - Software Fragmentation in STR Ops (07:55) - From SaaS to Baas (Business-as-Software) (09:09) - Boom, the AI PMS (12:47) - Enabling Proactive Ops (13:51) - The $12M+ Fundraise (14:47) - Winning Investors with Hospitality & Tech Credibility (16:53) - Feature: Blueprint Vegas 2026 (17:46) - STR Market Context and the Vacasa Lesson (21:03) - Replacing Point Solutions (23:47) - ROI, AI Moats, Future of STR Ops (32:06) - Collaboration Superpower: Tony Robbins (Wiki) 💚 Learn more: ➡️ Visit Boom ➡️ Shahar Goldboim on LinkedIn 💚 Feature: ➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass. 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Tiffany Yeh, MD is the CEO and Co-Founder of Eztia Materials, a climate-tech venture developing energy-efficient cooling materials to protect people from extreme heat. With a mission to advance hard tech solutions at the climate-health nexus, Tiffany draws on her unique background as a physician, engineer, and public health advocate to build technologies that improve global health in a warming world. (01:13) - Dr. Ye’s Background & Inspiration (01:52) - The Heat Challenge (05:20) - Singapore and the Power of Cooling (06:32) - Why Construction Has Been Slow to Adapt (07:22) - The Human Factor (08:14) - HydroVolt Technology (09:29) - Business Model, Distribution & Competition (11:19) - Worker Comfort (15:32) - Hidden Productivity Crisis Brewing (18:18) - Feature: Blueprint: The Future of Real Estate 2026 in Vegas on Sep. 22-24 (19:21) - The Secret Sauce Behind HydroVolt (20:31) - Prototyping & Real-World Applications (21:32) - Measuring Impact & ROI (23:34) - Pitching to VCs & Investors (25:31) - Product Roadmap (29:08) - Collaboration Superpower: Lionel Messi 💚 Learn more: ➡️ Visit Eztia ➡️ Tiffany Yeh on LinkedIn 💚 Feature: ➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass. 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Frank Rohde is the Founder and CEO of Ownify, a fractional homeownership platform pairing institutional and impact investors with qualified first-time buyers to make homeownership more accessible. With a 20+ year career at the intersection of finance, credit analytics, and technology, Frank previously led Nomis Solutions, scaling it into a global mortgage pricing engine used by top banks. Earlier roles include leadership at FICO, founding the early online insurer eCoverage, and launching AI models before it was trendy. Born in Germany, Frank is a former national whitewater kayaking champion, marathon runner on all seven continents, and lifelong reader—now channeling that energy into building a path between renting and owning, one Brick by Brick™. (01:51) - Why Homeownership Is Broken (04:10) - Ownify model (06:03) - How Fractional Ownership Works (13:08) - Ownify Benefits for First-time Homebuyers (16:11) - Homeowner & Investor Alignment (23:21) - Feature: CREtech New York Oct. 20–21 (24:09) - Event Opportunities (25:38) - All-Cash Offers Explained (32:40) - Underwriting & Risk Management (35:47) - Investor Returns (38:48) - Market Expansion (41:37) - Policy & Regulatory Headwinds (44:04) - Collaboration Superpower: Elon Musk 💚 Learn more: ➡️ Visit Ownify ➡️ Frank Rohde on LinkedIn ➡️ How Do We Help Young People Become Homeowners? | Frank Rohde | TEDxPaloAltoSalon 💚 Feature: ➡️ CREtech - Join CREtech New York 2026 on Oct 20-21 for the largest Real Estate Meetings program. Qualified Real Estate pros get free full event pass plus up to $800 in travel and hotel costs. 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Owen Barrett is the CEO and Co-Founder of Shine, a cleantech company helping multifamily property owners maximize NOI through onsite solar. With over 20 years of experience in sustainability and clean energy, Owen previously managed $60M in projects and launched a successful energy venture for schools before founding Shine to solve the split incentive problem in solar. Shine’s turnkey solution targets tenant electricity—95% of a building’s usage—enabling owners to generate new income while cutting tenant costs. With 36,500+ panels installed and a recent $5M seed round, Owen is leading Shine’s national expansion to transform how real estate decarbonizes. (01:31) - Owen’s Journey from Finance to Clean Energy (04:27) - Multifamily Solar Challenges & Solution (09:43) - Solar NOI for Multifamily (15:16) - Installation and Maintenance (17:51) - Feature: CREtech New York 2026 (19:10) - Overcoming Industry Misconceptions (20:46) - Convincing Asset Managers (23:15) - Shine’s New Solar Analysis Tool (25:31) - Targeting New and Existing Buildings (26:32) - Fundraising and Growth Strategies (27:59) - Building a Remote Team (29:43) - Collaboration Superpower: Paul Sween (Dominium Board Chairman) 💚 Learn more: ➡️ Visit Shine ➡️ Owen Barrett on LinkedIn 💚 Feature: ➡️ CREtech - Join CREtech New York 2026 on Oct 20-21 for the largest Real Estate Meetings program. Qualified Real Estate pros get free full event pass plus up to $800 in travel and hotel costs. 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Maor Greenberg is the co-founder and CEO of Spacial, the AI-powered engineering partner delivering coordinated, permit-ready structural, MEP, and energy plans for residential construction. With over 19 years of experience as a builder and founder, Maor previously scaled Greenberg Construction, Greenberg Design Gallery, and VRchitects, earning Inc. 5000 honors and multiple design awards. At Spacial, he combines deep field experience with cutting-edge AI to reduce permitting friction and accelerate housing delivery. His work has been featured in Forbes, TechCrunch, and CTech, and he actively invests in forward-thinking AEC and AI startups. (01:33) - Maor's Journey to the US (02:54) - Challenges in Architectural & Engineering Processes (04:05) - The Pain Points Leading to Spatial AI (05:31) - Permitting Bottlenecks in Construction (06:05) - Design & Construction Integration Issues (08:24) - AI’s Role in Streamlining Processes (09:29) - Success Stories & Milestones (15:07) - Shoutout: AmTrustRE's $217M Office Acquisition of 260 Madison (15:54) - Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026 (17:02) - Standardized Pricing & Adoption (18:55) - Speed vs. Quality in Engineering (24:53) - Modular Housing (28:25) - Future Vision for Spatial AI (29:09) - Collaboration Superpower: Elon Musk 💚 Learn more: ➡️ Visit Spacial AI ➡️ Maor Greenberg 💚 Feature: ➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Tzvika Graiver is the co-founder and CEO of RoboChute, the company reinventing how buildings manage trash chutes using smart, autonomous robots. With a background in law and a deep commitment to environmental innovation, Tzvika brings a unique blend of strategic insight and operational grit to the built world. RoboChute’s system proactively cleans, monitors, and extends the life of garbage chutes—already delivering healthier air and lower costs in buildings across Israel. Tzvika is also the longtime Chairman of KeepOlim, a nonprofit supporting new immigrants in Israel through business development and community advocacy. Whether launching robotics or empowering new communities, he’s focused on building smarter, more inclusive buildings and cities from the inside out. (01:35) The Problem with Garbage Chutes (05:46) Cost & Maintenance of Garbage Chutes (07:49) VC on hardware vs. software (12:06) Challenges & Opportunities in Robotics (21:16) Future of Real Estate & Robotics (24:02) Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass (24:51) Robots in Real Estate Operations (25:16) The Importance of Building Automation (27:06) Innovative Solutions for Waste Management (28:23) The Role of AI in Building Management (32:03) The Rise & Fall of Roomba / iRobot & Amazon's Blocked Acquisition (35:14) Competition with Chinese Manufacturers (42:22) Collaboration Superpower: Hannah Szenes (Wiki) & Lucius Tarquinius Priscus (Wiki) 💚 Learn more: ➡️ Visit RoboChute ➡️ Tzvika Graiver on LinkedIn 💚 Feature: ➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Eliza Lochner is a seasoned marketing leader with experience spanning Fortune 500 companies and high-growth startups. She leads global marketing for Airbnb’s real estate development partnerships and new supply initiatives, including the Airbnb Friendly Apartments program, which helps renters earn supplemental income while giving property owners transparency, controls, and new revenue opportunities. Passionate about building human connections that fuel business growth, Eliza focuses on partnerships at the intersection of housing affordability, flexibility, and real estate innovation. (01:30) - Airbnb-friendly Apartments (02:55) - Addressing Housing Affordability (04:34) - Owner & Property Manager Controls (06:28) - Program Success & Expansion (09:25) - Impact on Resident & Investor Attraction (14:24) - Revenue Sharing & Incentives (18:56) - Building Trust with Property Managers (21:14) - Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass (22:05) - Channel Partners & Distribution Strategy (24:00) - Boutique Hotels Partnerships (25:45) - Major Events: World Cup and Olympics (29:43) - Future of Airbnb Friendly Buildings Program (31:26) - Collaboration Superpower: Michelle Obama & Eumaeus (Wiki) 💚 Learn more: ➡️ Airbnb-friendly Apartments program ➡️ Eliza Lochner on LinkedIn 💚 Feature: ➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Kenneth Hochhauser is Partner and Head of Data and Analytics at RTL. His background includes roles as a retail executive at Macy’s and GNC and as a small business and economic development officer for the City of New York. He has advised both tenants and landlords on site selection, trade area analysis, and retail strategy, including introducing Chipotle to the New York metro market and representing Duxiana nationally. His past assignments span major projects such as Brookfield Place, Trump Place, and Columbia University’s Manhattanville and Morningside campuses. (02:39) - Ken's Journey (04:59) - Retail Market Trends (06:05) - Retail vs. Office Innovation (07:53) - Shopping Trends and Retail Insights (08:31) - Retail Challenges in Manhattan (10:05) - Retail's Historical Context and Future (12:14) - Tenant Preferences (17:33) - Experiential Retail & Unique Locations (20:56) - Non-Traditional Retail (23:21) - Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass (28:11) - Retail Tech & Data Utilization (34:29) - Location Indicators & Retail Expansion (38:29) - Collaboration Superpower: an economist (40:08) - US Gov. Shutdown Impact 💚 Learn more: ➡️ Visit RTL ➡️ Ken Hochhauser on LinkedIn 💚 Feature: ➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Kevin Shtofman is the Global Head of Alliances and Corporate Development at Cherre, a real estate data platform powering over $3.3 trillion in AUM. With 20+ years of experience across real estate, finance, and consulting, Kevin leads global initiatives to integrate and contextualize data from systems, third parties, and JV partners, helping investors, operators, and asset managers make smarter decisions. At Cherre, he also oversees strategic partnerships, global expansion, and the innovation roadmap. Prior to joining Cherre, Kevin held leadership roles across the industry, including Chief Operating Officer at NavigatorCRE, and Global Real Estate Technology Strategy Lead at Deloitte, where he advised clients on emerging technologies like AI, automation, and blockchain. A recognized voice in real estate innovation, Kevin brings two decades of experience bridging data, operations, and technology across global real estate markets. Outside of work, Kevin is a golf enthusiast, occasional Ironman, and proud father of three daughters. (02:05) - Kevin's Background (05:19) - Challenges in Real Estate Data Management (06:52) - Cherre’s Approach to Data Integration (13:48) - Evolution of Cherre’s Platform (21:41) - Client Success Stories (24:58) - Future of Real Estate and AI (25:23) - Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass (29:58) - Introducing Cherre AI Agent Marketplace (33:58) - AI Use Cases (40:06) - The Future of Real Estate Data (42:29) - Affordable Housing and Investment (47:37) - Collaboration Superpower: William Levitt (Wiki) & Larry Brown (Wiki) 💚 Learn more: ➡️ Visit Cherre ➡️ Kevin Shtofman on LinkedIn 💚 Feature: ➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Sharon Ayalon is the co-founder and CEO of UrbanMix, a next-gen platform using AI and 3D to streamline real estate operations. An architect by training, she previously taught at Columbia GSAPP and led advanced housing simulations at Cornell Tech. Sharon pioneered Roosevelt Island’s Digital Twin and XR transit experience. Her Ph.D. was awarded the President of Israel’s Grant for Scientific Excellence. This is episode was recorded live at Blueprint Vegas 2025. Sharon has been helping shape Gowanus Wharf, a groundbreaking Brooklyn development led by Charney Companies turning a former Superfund site into over 1,000 apartments, parks, and public waterfront. It's one of the most ambitious examples of how environmental cleanup, zoning reform, and innovative tools can unlock transformative urban development. 💚 Learn more: ➡️ Visit UrbanMix ➡️ Sharon Yavo Ayalon on LinkedIn 💚 Feature: ➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

This week, we're introducing Tangent listeners to another podcast in the commercial real estate ecosystem: In The Loop from LoopNet. How can workplaces endure ecologically, financially, and socially? In this episode of In the Loop, Jordan Goldstein, co-CEO of Gensler, explores the future of sustainable and resilient office design. From global design trends and innovative materials to the role of AI in commercial real estate, Jordan shares how the industry is rethinking sustainability. You’ll learn why repositioning existing buildings matters, how policy and incentives drive real change, and what it takes to create workplaces built for tomorrow. In the Loop is LoopNet’s commercial real estate podcast highlighting the people, ideas, and innovations shaping the future of work. For bonus video content, check out our YouTube channel. Timestamps 00:00 - Welcome to the show and introduction of In The Loop podcast drop 01:01 - Phil Hazelhurst welcomes guest Jordan Goldstein, Co-CEO of Gensler 03:34 - How sustainability, resiliency, and “flight to quality” are reshaping office real estate 06:57 - The rise of AI in architecture & how Gensler uses tech to design smarter, lower-carbon spaces 13:38 - Materials makeover: mass timber, low-carbon concrete, and the future of building systems 19:37 - Global perspectives and the power of repositioning old buildings instead of starting new 26:24 - Gensler’s own electrified office and how the firm lives its sustainability mission in practice 37:42 - Final thoughts: Why design is an act of optimism and where sustainable real estate goes next 40:19 - Edward recaps conversation Links & references: • View spaces designed by Gensler • Ready to find your next sustainable commercial space? Start your search • Learn more about this episode • Learn more about Commercial Real Estate"

Ryan Sawchuk is the VP of Product at Crexi, where he leads cross-functional teams to build advanced, data-rich tools aimed at transforming the commercial real estate workflow. With more than 15 years in product leadership, Ryan specializes in crafting AI-enabled, scalable solutions that boost transaction velocity, improve user experience, and integrate seamlessly into CRE operations. Prior to Crexi, Ryan held senior product roles at Indeed, Procore, and LinkedIn, shaping core features and driving growth in high-scale tech environments. He earned his education from Princeton University, which laid the foundation for his data-driven, user-first product philosophy. At Crexi, Ryan’s vision is to bridge the gap between real estate professionals and cutting-edge technology, making complex CRE data more accessible, actionable, and efficient. This is episode was recorded live at Blueprint Vegas 2025. 💚 Learn more: ➡️ Visit Crexi ➡️ Ryan Sawchuk on LinkedIn 💚 Feature: ➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Colton Pace is a founder and currently the CEO of Ownwell, a Proptech company dedicated to democratizing access to real estate expertise and reducing the hidden costs of homeownership. Under his leadership, Ownwell helps homeowners and property owners identify and appeal overvalued property taxes, reduce insurance and utility costs, and manage other home‑related expenses through data, automation, and local expert teams. Before founding Ownwell, Colton served as an investor, asset manager, and venture capitalist, helping manage billions of dollars across various asset classes. He was part of funds that made early investments in companies such as Uber, Spotify, Redfin, Snowflake, UiPath, Zuora, and Grab. (01:05) - VC to PropTech Founder (03:10) - $797B Property Tax Problem (04:48) - Ownwell Traction: 700K+ Homes and SMB/CRE (06:18) - AI Plus 80 Consultants: How Appeals Get Done (08:50) - Success Rates and Savings: Residential vs Commercial (11:27) - Portfolio Case Study: 124 SFR Properties in Texas (13:45) - Valuation Methods and Local Differences (16:13) - Market Size: $50 to 60B Opportunity (17:29) - Feature: CREtech - Join CREtech New York 2025 on Oct 21-22 for the largest Real Estate Meetings program. Qualified Real Estate pros get free full event pass plus up to $800 in travel and hotel costs. (19:02) - Beyond Taxes: Insurance, Loans, Utilities, Concierge (21:30) - Building Trust with Homeowners and CRE Owners (24:03) - Advice for PropTech Founders Selling into Real Estate (26:49) - Collaboration Superpower: Matthew McConaughey 💚 Learn more: ➡️ Visit Ownwell ➡️ Colton Pace on LinkedIn 💚 Feature: ➡️ CREtech: Join CREtech New York 2025 on Oct 21-22 for the largest real estate meetings program. Qualified real estate professionals get free full event pass plus up to $800 in travel and hotel costs. Must own or manage 1K+ resi units, or 1M SF of CRE to qualify. 💚 Connect with Tangent: ➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn ➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn ➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn ➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.