A Productive Conversation

This episode is brought to you by Your Clockwise Week—a personalized weekly structure built around your actual life, not an ideal one. If your week feels full but not fitting, you can learn more at mikevardy.com/yourclockwiseweek. There's an assumption buried inside almost every productivity system, self-help framework, and optimization routine: that you're not enough yet. That the gap between who you are and who you should be is the central problem to solve. I've spent fifteen years in this space, and I've watched that assumption quietly do a lot of damage. My guest today has spent roughly the same amount of time making the case that sometimes the belief that you need to improve is a bigger problem than whatever you're trying to fix.Mark Manson is the author of The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck and Everything Is F*cked: A Book About Hope, two of the most widely read books in the personal development space over the last decade. He's the host of the Solved podcast, where he and his research team do exhaustive, long-form deep dives on the ideas most podcasters treat like talking points. And he recently co-founded Purpose, an AI-powered platform designed to make personal growth coaching accessible at scale. Mark and I have a lot of shared territory in this conversation—and a few places where we push each other in productive directions. Six Discussion Points backwards lawoptimal is suboptimalhours worked is not the same as leverageeffort is a double-edged swordlanguage shapes whether an idea landsdo you actually want the costs?Three Connection Points Mark Manson's website and free twice-weekly newsletterThe Solved podcast:PurposeMark's most useful provocation in this conversation isn't the one with the sharpest edge. It's the quieter one: before you add another goal, another system, another layer of self-improvement, ask yourself whether you actually want to live with what it costs. Not the version of it that works. The version on the hard days. The answer to that question tells you more about whether you're chasing the right thing than any productivity metric ever will. If this episode resonated, I’m exploring ideas like these more deeply in my upcoming book, Productiveness. You can follow along as it takes shape at mikevardy.com/productiveness.

This episode is brought to you by Your Clockwise Week—a personalized weekly structure built around your actual life, not an ideal one. If your week feels full but not fitting, you can learn more at mikevardy.com/yourclockwiseweek. We've turned busy into a badge of honor. The fuller the calendar, the longer the to-do list, the more people seem to think we're crushing it. But after more than a thousand conversations about productivity across multiple shows and well over a decade of this work, I've come to believe that the number one thing people get wrong isn't their system, their tools, or even their habits. It's this: they've confused motion with meaning. In this episode, I'm thinking out loud with you about what I call intentional productivity — not productivity as a set of tips or tricks, but as a philosophy, a way of living. If you've been following my work for a while, you know where this leads. If you're new here, this is as good a place as any to start. It's also my way of setting the table for next week's conversation with Mark Manson, whose work on values and what actually matters in life is more aligned with this than you might expect. Six Discussion Points for the right reasonsThree Connection Points "Why Doing Nothing Might Be the Most Productive Thing You Can Do" (APC652):Stop Managing Time. Start Crafting It: The Productivity Diet:Intentional productivity doesn't look impressive from the outside. It's quiet. It compounds. It doesn't post about itself. The person doing deep, meaningful work often looks like they're doing less than the person who's always visibly occupied — and that's precisely the point. The real question isn't how much you got done today. It's whether what you did moved you closer to who you want to be and the life you want to live. That question is uncomfortable. It requires you to actually know what you value. But that's the work — not the app, not the system, not the morning routine. Start there. If this episode resonated, I’m exploring ideas like these more deeply in my upcoming book, Productiveness. You can follow along as it takes shape at mikevardy.com/productiveness.

This episode is brought to you by Your Clockwise Week—a personalized weekly structure built around your actual life, not an ideal one. If your week feels full but not fitting, you can learn more at mikevardy.com/yourclockwiseweek. Most of us aren’t burned out because we’re doing too much. We’re burned out because we’re doing too much of the wrong things — on autopilot, running inherited scripts, and mistaking busyness for meaning. The distinction between a routine and a ritual sounds small. It isn’t. One checks a box. The other changes who you are. Erin Coupe spent 25 years in the corporate world before she recognized that her carefully structured life had become a kind of comfortable numbness. Her book, I Can Fit That In: How Rituals Transform Your Life, begins with a provocation right on the cover — the word “routines” is crossed out and replaced with “rituals.” That single strikethrough tells you everything about what this conversation is about. We dig into why rituals and routines are not the same thing, how autopilot living quietly erodes the quality of your days, and what it actually means to steward your energy rather than manage your time. Six Discussion Points Rituals vs. routines is not a semantic debate:chooseAutopilot living is often comfortable enough to go undetected:Inherited scripts are the hidden architecture of a life unlived:Energy stewardship, not time management, is the real leverage point:Intentional pauses are not passive — they are productive:The luna moth is more than a book cover image:Three Connection Points Erin’s websiteErin's bookErin's podcastRituals don’t require more time. They require more intention. What Erin Coupe is pointing at — and what this conversation keeps circling back to — is that the quality of your life is shaped less by your calendar and more by your relationship with yourself inside that calendar. The pause isn’t wasted time. It’s where the transformation starts. If this episode landed for you, spend some time with the question Erin puts front and center: not “do I have time for this?” but “is it worth fitting in?” If this episode resonated, I’m exploring ideas like these more deeply in my upcoming book, Productiveness. You can follow along as it takes shape at mikevardy.com/productiveness.

This episode is brought to you by Your Clockwise Week—a personalized weekly structure built around your actual life, not an ideal one. If your week feels full but not fitting, you can learn more at mikevardy.com/yourclockwiseweek. We spend a lot of time trying to fix things—our schedules, our systems, our lives. But what if that instinct, that constant push to optimize, is actually pulling us away from something more essential? In this PM Talks episode, Patrick Rhone and I explore what it means to be human in a world that increasingly treats us like machines. From travel and perspective to curiosity, ego, and even the power of doing nothing, this conversation leans into something deeper than productivity—it leans into presence. Six Discussion Points Three Connection Points ProductivenessYour Human-Size LifeShifting Vocabulary: How Changing Our Words Changes Our WorkIf there’s a thread running through this conversation, it’s this: being human isn’t about doing more—it’s about knowing when to step back. When we loosen our grip on control, we create space for curiosity, perspective, and even wonder. And in that space, we don’t just get more done—we begin to understand what’s worth doing at all. If this episode resonated, I’m exploring ideas like these more deeply in my upcoming book, Productiveness. You can follow along as it takes shape at mikevardy.com/productiveness.

This episode is brought to you by Your Clockwise Week—a personalized weekly structure built around your actual life, not an ideal one. If your week feels full but not fitting, you can learn more at mikevardy.com/yourclockwiseweek. Most of us have been taught that trying is virtuous — that saying "I'll try" signals good intentions and a willingness to show up. But what if trying is actually a way of opting out? What if it's the most socially acceptable excuse we've built into our language — a built-in escape hatch dressed up as effort? That's the question that sits at the center of this conversation, and I haven't been able to stop thinking about it since we recorded.Carla Ondrasik spent twenty years in the competitive world of music publishing — a world where trying, in her words, means dying. She's worked with artists at the highest levels of the industry, and she's spent the last two decades studying the psychology and neuroscience behind why we say we'll try and what it actually costs us. Her book, Stop Trying: The Life Transforming Power of Trying Less and Doing More, is one of those rare reads that reframes something so ordinary and so deeply ingrained that you can't un-see it once it's been named. I know, because she caught me using the word in the middle of our conversation — while talking about her book. That's how deep this goes. Six Discussion Points Trying is a mental activity, not a physical one.We use "try" to avoid accountability — and to avoid saying no.Talking about what you're trying to do tricks your brain into feeling like you're doing it.Saying "no" clearly is kinder than saying "I'll try."Silence protects the doing.A no-try life starts small.Three Connection Points Carla's book and resources:stop-trying.comCarla on Instagram:@carlaondrasikRelated reading on intentional action:Stop Doing Productive and Start Being Productivebeing productiveThe shift Carla is describing isn't just semantic — it's a structural change in how you relate to your own intentions. When you stop using "try" as a buffer between yourself and commitment, something has to fill that space: a real decision, in either direction. Do it or don't. Both are more honest than the middle ground most of us live in. If this conversation landed, I'd encourage you to sit with it before moving on. And if you've got someone in your life who lives in try mode — consider what one honest conversation might make possible. If this episode resonated, I’m exploring ideas like these more deeply in my upcoming book, Productiveness. You can follow along as it takes shape at mikevardy.com/productiveness.

This episode is brought to you by Your Clockwise Week—a personalized weekly structure built around your actual life, not an ideal one. If your week feels full but not fitting, you can learn more at mikevardy.com/yourclockwiseweek. Procrastination is often framed as avoidance of what we don’t want to do. But in this conversation, it becomes clear that it shows up just as often in the things we do want to do—the work that matters most. That’s what made this discussion with Jon Acuff so compelling. Jon’s latest book, Procrastination Proof, doesn’t treat procrastination as a flaw to fix but as a pattern to understand—and ultimately, to work with rather than against. Six Discussion Points Three Connection Points Get Procrastination ProofJon's previous appearance on APCJoin the communityThe Procrastination CourseWhat stood out most in this conversation is that procrastination isn’t something you defeat once—it’s something you learn to navigate. When you shift from forcing action to understanding patterns, the work changes. And more importantly, your relationship with the work changes. That’s where real progress begins. If this episode resonated, I’m exploring ideas like these more deeply in my upcoming book, Productiveness. You can follow along as it takes shape at mikevardy.com/productiveness.

There’s a quiet trap many of us fall into when the pace picks up: we start reacting instead of leading. The inbox fills, the interruptions stack, and before long, the day is no longer ours—it’s everyone else’s. In this conversation, I sit down with Rich Czyz, author of Autopilot: Practical Productivity for School Leaders, to explore how systems—not willpower—can help us reclaim that sense of direction. While his work is rooted in education, what we discuss applies far beyond school walls. This is about shifting from firefighting to forward thinking. Six Discussion Points Three Connection Points Autopilot: Practical Productivity for School LeadersFour O'Clock FacultyThe Practice of ProductivenessIf there’s a throughline in this conversation, it’s this: the goal isn’t to perfect your system—it’s to make space for what matters most. Whether you’re leading a school, a team, or simply your own day, the question is the same: what can you remove so that what remains has room to matter?

The latest episode in our monthly PM Talks series explores a deceptively simple idea: practice. It’s a word we hear constantly—in sports, work, and creative pursuits—but we rarely stop to examine what it actually means or why it matters so much. In this conversation, Patrick Rhone and I unpack the many layers of practice—from the fundamentals that shape excellence to the quiet discipline of repetition that rarely gets the spotlight. Along the way we explore identity, devotion, habits, AI, and why focusing on fewer things might actually help us do them better. Six Discussion Points Three Connection Points https://patrickrhone.comProductivenesshttps://mikevardy.com/productivenessRelentless by Tim GroverPractice isn’t something we graduate from. It’s something we live inside of. The people who truly excel understand this—whether they’re athletes, creators, entrepreneurs, or anyone simply trying to get better at what matters to them. The question isn’t whether we practice. The question is what we choose to practice, and how consistently we show up to do it.

We live in a world where everything is digital — yet almost none of us were ever taught how to manage digital information well. Files, notes, emails, documents, IDs, receipts… they pile up. And unlike physical filing cabinets, our computers let us create anything anywhere — which sounds like freedom but often leads to chaos. In this episode, I sit down with Johnny Decimal, creator of the Johnny Decimal system, to explore a structured, deceptively simple way to bring order to your digital life. What began as a practical solution for a shared Dropbox folder has grown into a framework that helps people organize their records with clarity and confidence — without turning their lives into an overengineered productivity lab. Six Discussion Points Three Connection Points Johnny Decimal's websiteSign up for Johnny Decimal's email listHow to Build an Achievement Structure: Getting the Front End Work DoneWhat struck me most about this conversation is how grounding structure can be. Not rigid. Not restrictive. Just grounding. When you know where something lives — and you trust that it will be there — your attention is freed for better work and better living. If you’ve ever felt buried under digital clutter, this episode offers a thoughtful starting point.

In a culture that prizes metrics, optimization, and constant output, what does it mean to truly flourish? In this episode of A Productive Conversation, I sit down with New York Times bestselling author Daniel Coyle to explore a deeper question beneath performance: how do we build meaning, joy, and fulfillment in systems that reward speed over substance? If you’ve ever felt successful on paper but unsettled underneath, this conversation is for you. Daniel—author of The Culture Code and The Talent Code—has spent years studying high-performing organizations, from the Navy SEALs to professional sports teams. But in his latest book, he turns toward something more foundational: flourishing as joyful, meaningful growth. We talk about why life isn’t a game to win but a garden to tend, why pauses matter more than productivity hacks, and why the best leaders ask better questions instead of delivering faster answers. Six Discussion Points Flourishing vs. PerformanceLife as Garden, Not MachineAwakening CuesRelational AttentionCommunity Over IndividualismWriting and EvolutionThree Connection Points Flourish: The Art of Building Meaning, Joy and FulfillmentDaniel's websiteOur previous conversationIn a world obsessed with output, this conversation is a reminder that flourishing isn’t something you chase—it’s something you cultivate. And cultivation takes intention.

Gratitude shows up in a lot of productivity conversations—but rarely as a practice that changes how we relate to others. In this episode of A Productive Conversation, I sit down with Joel Zuckerman, author of Gratitude Tiger, to explore gratitude as something we actively express, not just quietly feel. Joel has written more than 300 Letters of Gratitude over the past twelve years, and what began as a simple exercise has evolved into a life-shaping practice. We dig into why handwritten letters matter, how gratitude can move from introspection to expression, and why this practice benefits the writer just as much as the recipient. Six Discussion Points Three Connection Points Gratitude Tiger: Creating Joy Through the Art of Impactful LettersJoel's WebsiteThe Productivity Diet Gratitude doesn’t need to be complicated to be powerful. This conversation reminded me that one letter—written with intention—can deepen relationships, shift perspective, and leave a legacy that outlasts the moment. If you’ve ever thought about reaching out to someone who mattered in your life, this episode might be the nudge you need.

This episode is the latest in our monthly PM Talks series, where Patrick Rhone and I step back from tactics and tools to explore the deeper questions that shape how we live, work, and show up. What we planned to discuss was poise—but what we actually talked about was something more urgent. Recorded in real time as events were unfolding in Minneapolis and St. Paul, this conversation became about moral clarity, civic responsibility, and what it means to stay aligned when neutrality no longer feels like an option. This isn’t a polished debate or a tidy argument. It’s a candid conversation about right versus wrong—and why that distinction matters now. Six Discussion Points Three Connection Points Requiem for the American DreamWillhoit’s LawPM Talks series archiveI’m grateful Patrick was willing to have this conversation when he did, and I’m grateful to you for listening. This episode isn’t meant to inflame or persuade—it’s meant to bear witness. Sometimes that’s the most productive thing we can do.

Working from home sounds simple—until kids, calendars, meals, meetings, and relationships all collide. In this episode, I sit down with Thom Gibson, a work-from-home dad and social media strategist, to talk honestly about what it really takes to make remote work and family life coexist. Thom is the founder of WFH Dads, and his perspective is grounded not in theory, but in lived experience—raising two young kids, navigating shared schedules with his wife, and building a workday that leaves room for presence, not just productivity. Six Discussion Points Three Connection Points WFH DadsGet The Six-Hour Workday PlaybookHow to Build a Powerful Journal in 3 Steps (Starting Today)This conversation reinforced something I’ve believed for a long time: structure isn’t the enemy of freedom—it’s what makes freedom possible. Thom’s approach to work-from-home life is thoughtful, practical, and refreshingly human, and I think a lot of parents—especially dads—will see themselves reflected in this episode.

This week on A Productive Conversation, I sit down with Brad Stulberg, author of The Way of Excellence, to explore what excellence really means in a world obsessed with efficiency, optimization, and performative productivity. Brad has spent years studying sustainable excellence across sport, leadership, creativity, and life—and this conversation digs into why excellence is neither perfection nor hustle, but something far more human. Brad and I unpack the difference between true excellence and what he calls “pseudo-excellence,” why metrics often outlive their usefulness, and how habits like routine, curiosity, and gumption play a central role in meaningful progress. Along the way, we explore why satisfaction outlasts happiness, why flow isn’t always the goal, and how focusing on the task at hand—not the time on hand—changes everything. Six Discussion Points Three Connection Points The Way of Excellence by Brad StulbergThe Growth EquationListen to Brad's previous appearance on APCThis conversation is a reminder that excellence isn’t about doing more—it’s about doing what matters with care, patience, and intention. Brad’s work offers a compelling counterpoint to the constant pressure to optimize everything, and instead invites us to pursue a more grounded, values-aligned version of success—one that shapes us as much as the work itself.

There are moments when a conversation slows you down in the best possible way. My discussion with Brad Farris was one of those moments—a reminder that growth isn’t just about doing more, faster, or harder, but about becoming the kind of leader who can sustain momentum without burning everything down in the process. Brad has spent decades working alongside agency and expert-firm owners, helping them move past the $1M–$2M ceiling and into healthier, more durable growth. What stood out to me wasn’t just his experience—it was his insistence that the real work happens internally. The biggest constraint to progress, he argues, isn’t strategy or systems. It’s what’s happening between your ears. Six Discussion Points Three Connection Points Anchor Advisors – Brad’s home base and advisory workBrad Farris on LinkedInHow To Transform A Single Daily Theme Into An Everyday FocusBrad’s perspective reinforces something I’ve seen repeatedly: sustainable growth isn’t about squeezing more output from yourself or your team. It’s about creating the conditions where clarity, rest, and intention can do their work. This conversation is an invitation to slow down just enough to lead better.

This episode is the first installment of Season 3 in our monthly PM Talks series, where Patrick Rhone and I slow things down to explore the ideas that quietly shape how we live and work. This time, we start with an act of honesty right out of the gate—being transparent about when the episode was recorded—and let that openness set the tone for everything that follows. From there, the conversation unfolds into something deeper. We talk about honesty not as a moral stance, but as a practical one—especially when it comes to time, commitments, and the stories we tell ourselves about why things don’t happen. January has a way of inviting big intentions, and this discussion is a timely reminder that clarity begins with truth. Six Discussion Points Three Connection Points Patrick's websiteThe Year CompassProductiveness.Honesty isn’t about being harsher with ourselves—it’s about being clearer. This conversation is an invitation to pause, notice, and tell better stories about what we can actually do with the time and energy we have.

In this episode of A Productive Conversation, I sit down once again with author and researcher Chris Bailey to explore what it really means to live—and work—intentionally. This conversation centers on his latest book, Intentional: How to Finish What You Start, and the decade of curiosity that led him there. We dig into why goals often fail us, how culture shapes our relationship with productivity, and why values—not habits, hacks, or willpower—sit at the core of meaningful progress. This isn’t a surface-level productivity chat. It’s a thoughtful examination of why we do what we do, and how to align our days with who we actually are. Six Discussion Points Three Connection Points Buy the bookCheck out Chris's websiteListen to Chris's first appearance the podcastThis episode is a reminder that productivity isn’t about doing more—it’s about doing what fits. If you’ve ever felt friction between your goals and your values, or wondered why “good habits” still leave you unsatisfied, this conversation will give you plenty to reflect on—and return to.

This is a reflective, solo episode where I share twelve essential TimeCrafting tips—not as rules or resolutions, but as orienting ideas you can return to whenever your days feel scattered or misaligned. Think of this as a pause at the edge of the calendar year, and an invitation to relate to time differently. These tips are meant to be lived with, not completed. You don’t need all twelve. One idea is often enough to begin again. Whether you’re closing out a year or simply noticing that your relationship with time feels off, this episode offers a grounded way to reset without pressure. These twelve tips aren’t meant to be applied all at once—or perfectly. They’re ideas to return to when you notice drift, friction, or fatigue creeping in. Progress doesn’t require dramatic restarts. It asks for awareness, honesty, and the willingness to come back. Wherever you are in your year—or your life—I hope this episode helps you take a gentle step toward what matters. You don’t have to absorb all of this at once—just stay with it, and let one idea meet you where you are. During the episode, I mention both The 12 Days of TimeCrafting (which is a limited time offering) and my membership community. If you become a member, you'll have access to The 12 Days of TimeCrafting beyond its limited-time release period... and so much more. You can learn more about this community here.

In December 2024, Erik Fisher and I sit down to explore the alphabet of productivity — a tradition that started as a one-off idea and has now become an annual ritual. This year, we dove back in to see how our thinking has shifted, sharpened, or completely transformed. Turns out, a lot can change in a year… especially when life, work, and expectations rearrange themselves without asking permission. In this special episode of A Productive Conversation, Erik joins me to unpack the first half of our A-to-Z list – the second part is featured on Eriks' podcast, Beyond the to-Do List. It’s a rich mix of practice, philosophy, and the very human realities that shape how we show up to our work. If you’re craving a more grounded, nuanced approach to productivity, this conversation is an invitation to rethink your rhythms. Exploring productivity through the alphabet isn’t about clever wordplay — it’s about noticing how our relationship with work evolves year after year. Erik and I always walk away from these conversations reminded that productivity isn’t fixed; it’s lived. And in that spirit, we’ll pick up with N to Z on his show next. I hope you’ll join us there.

This time on A Productive Conversation, I sit down with someone who has spent decades at the intersection of technology, leadership, and what it means to remain truly human. Faisal Hoque isn’t just writing about AI from afar—he has lived inside this world for more than thirty years. From founding multiple companies to advising global organizations and government agencies, he brings a rare blend of deep technical expertise and grounded philosophical clarity. In this conversation, we get into his newest book, Transcend: Unlocking Humanity in the Age of AI, and explore the place where innovation meets conscience. We talk about fear and fascination, the frameworks that help us navigate uncertainty, and the practical ways AI is already reshaping how we think, work, and relate. It’s a wide-ranging, honest exchange about what we stand to gain—and what we can’t afford to lose. Six Discussion Points Three Connection Points Transcend: Unlocking Humanity in the Age of AIFaisal’s websiteFaisal’s writing at Psychology TodayGetting to speak with Faisal reinforced something I’ve been thinking about for a long time: technology can extend what we do, but only we can determine who we become. AI may accelerate our output, sharpen our insights, and open new doors—but it can’t choose our purpose. That part remains ours. This conversation left me more convinced than ever that if we want a future worth inhabiting, we have to bring our humanity to the center of it.