Voices of NCAJ

Barely a year old, North Carolina Lawyers for the Rule of Law is actively driving the conversation about hot legal topics. Steering Committee member David Teddy discusses why he and like-minded lawyers formed the group in the wake of the NCAJ’s Convention 2025, seizing the opportunity to issue a public statement about threats against judges and lawyers. Since then, North Carolina Lawyers for the Rule of Law has come out on other issues and is raising money to “get out the message that you need to stand up for the rule of law.” Sitting down with host Amber Nimocks, David also reflects on this term as NCAJ president from 2013 to 2014 and the return of his “Criminal Masters in Advocacy” CLE at NCAJ Convention 2026 in June. Visit the NCAJ Convention page to learn more about it. Interested in supporting the North Carolina Lawyers for the Rule of Law or its Law Day celebration on May 1? Contact David at 704-487-1234. 🎙️ Featured Guest 🎙️ Name: David Teddy Connect: LinkedIn 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [02:03] NC Lawyers for the Rule of Law: A debate at the 2025 NCAJ Convention — over whether the organization should issue a public statement defending the rule of law — led David and like-minded members to form an independent steering committee that launched NC Lawyers for the Rule of Law. [03:55] Beyond One Statement: Since its formation, NC Lawyers for the Rule of Law has grown to 873 lawyer signatories and established its own 501(c)(3) nonprofit. The group has made more public statements, including one opposing a proposed Department of Justice rule. [04:20] Law Day: NC Lawyers for the Rule of Law is partnering with similar groups in other states to mark Law Day on May 1, leveraging the American Bar Association's theme of "the rule of law and the American dream." [07:13] Popular CLE Returns: At the NCAJ Convention in June, David will reprise his popular “Criminal Masters in Advocacy” CLE, which gives criminal practitioners practical tools they need when they walk into either a district or superior court. [12:13] “Good Times President”: Like all NCAJ presidents, David chose a theme for his tenure. He wanted to be the “good times president,” which meant ensuring that NCAJ events would have live music. [14:34] “Above the Rest”: NCAJ’s CLEs are “head and shoulders above the rest” and give back the investment in time and money “sevenfold,” David says. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. ☑️ Subscribe to Voices of NCAJ on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Voices of NCAJ features members of the North Carolina Advocates for Justice talking about what it means to be a trial lawyer, what it takes to be great at the practice of law and how being a part of NCAJ enriches their lives and their careers. Members of NCAJ belong to a nonprofit, nonpartisan association of legal professionals dedicated to empowering a strong community of trial lawyers to protect people, prevent injustice and promote fairness. Membership affords many benefits and we’re proud to offer discounts and opportunities thanks to our tremendous community of sponsors and partners. Join today!

Martha Ramsay has been an NCAJ member for more than three decades and served in leadership roles – all while developing a thriving workers’ comp practice at two firms. Later this month, she’ll unite her law practice and her NCAJ commitment at the 31st Annual Workers' Comp Round Table CLE. In this episode, Martha sits down with host Amber Nimocks to look ahead at the CLE, where she’ll participate in a roundtable, and look back on her path to workers’ comp law and to the NCAJ. The Workers' Comp Round Table CLE will be held at NCAJ headquarters in Raleigh on April 10. Members of the Workers' Comp Section can learn more and register here. Martha encourages attendees to “bring your questions, bring your problem cases.” 🎙️ Featured Guest 🎙️ Name: Martha Ramsay | LinkedIn Connect: Ramsay Law Firm on LinkedIn | Facebook | X and Dewey, Ramsay & Hunt on LinkedIn | Facebook | X | Instagram 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [02:09] NCAJ from Day One: Martha traces her NCAJ membership to her first job, working for a founding member who instilled in her that lawyers must learn from other lawyers — not just the letter of the law, but how to get things done in the courtroom and the legislature. [09:29] Why Workers' Comp:After trying family law, business law, criminal law, and personal injury, Martha felt that she could truly change outcomes for people through workers' comp. [14:52] High-Value CLE: What makes the 31st Annual Workers' Comp Round Table CLE uniquely valuable? As Martha explains, it is members only, focused on frank discussion of real cases and trends, and gives attendees access to experienced practitioners and younger lawyers with boots on the ground. [18:07] Paying It Forward: Martha recalls the time when she was “just the little nobody” and stuck on a workers’ comp issue. She was encouraged to reach out to a well-known, respected lawyer who took the time to help her own. Today, she and everyone at NCAJ embrace that spirit of paying it forward. [21:26] Don’t Go It Alone: “Why would you go it alone?” Martha asks. With NCAJ, you don’t have to. She promotes membership as a way for lawyers to get access to resources, including other lawyers dealing with the same problems as well as practical gems from CLEs. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. ☑️ Subscribe to Voices of NCAJ on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Voices of NCAJ features members of the North Carolina Advocates for Justice talking about what it means to be a trial lawyer, what it takes to be great at the practice of law and how being a part of NCAJ enriches their lives and their careers. Members of NCAJ belong to a nonprofit, nonpartisan association of legal professionals dedicated to empowering a strong community of trial lawyers to protect people, prevent injustice and promote fairness. Membership affords many benefits and we’re proud to offer discounts and opportunities thanks to our tremendous community of sponsors and partners. Join today!

Audrey Snyder and Gabe Snyder stop by the studio to reflect on their “whirlwind” transition at Ward Black Law since the passing of founder Janet Ward Black last November. In January, they purchased the Greensboro-based firm and will preserve Janet Ward's faith-driven culture while reshaping it as their own. In this conversation with host Amber Nimocks, they discuss their vision of serving clients spiritually as well as legally. They are both active with NCAJ: Audrey has served as chair of the Women’s Caucus and the Products Liability Class Actions and Mass Torts section while Gabe is a graduate of the NCAJ’s leadership program and was chair of the Auto Torts and Premises Liability Section. So, they share their positive experiences with the organization. Tune in to hear about their “meet cute” as college undergrads. 🎙️ Featured Guests 🎙️ Name: Audrey Snyder Connect: LinkedIn Name: Gabe Snyder Connect: LinkedIn 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [03:00] A Whirlwind: Audrey reflects on the “whirlwind” that she and the entire Ward Black Law team has experienced since founder Janet Ward Black passed away last November. [04:00] Stewarding a Legacy: Audrey and Gabe share their career journey that brought them to Ward Black. [11:16] The Path to Law: “We both had law in mind.” Gabe describes how he and Audrey pursued a career in law after meeting as undergrads. [26:45] The Gift: Janet Ward left $50,000 to NCAJ, which will help fund a mentorship program. [25:47] Life-Changing Program: Gabe credits the NCAJ NEXT leadership program with teaching him management and leadership skills that law school doesn’t cover. [29:29] 20 Years: Audrey describes the firm's 20-day celebration honoring Janet Ward's birthday and the firm's 20th anniversary, culminating in a staff dinner on March 6. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. ☑️ Subscribe to Voices of NCAJ on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Voices of NCAJ features members of the North Carolina Advocates for Justice talking about what it means to be a trial lawyer, what it takes to be great at the practice of law and how being a part of NCAJ enriches their lives and their careers. Members of NCAJ belong to a nonprofit, nonpartisan association of legal professionals dedicated to empowering a strong community of trial lawyers to protect people, prevent injustice and promote fairness. Membership affords many benefits and we’re proud to offer discounts and opportunities thanks to our tremendous community of sponsors and partners. Join today!

The winner of the NCAJ’s 2025 Charles Becton Teaching Award, Chris Nichols reflects on his decades-long commitment to NCAJ's continuing legal education programs and the North Carolina Mock Trial Program. Joining the conversation is one of Chris’ mock trial students, high school senior Sam Circosta. “The great thing about mock trial is we're not necessarily training lawyers. We're just training leaders. That's what Sam has been for the last four years,” Chris tells host Amber Nimocks. In addition to discussing his journey as a teacher and coach, Chris also highlights his role as NCAJ’s government affairs consultant and previews upcoming CLEs. 🎙️ Featured Guests🎙️ Name: Chris Nichols Connect: LinkedIn Name: Sam Circosta Connect: LinkedIn 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [02:42] “Sign Me Up”: Sam Circosta wasn’t supposed to join his high school’s mock trial team, but he was intrigued after a chance meeting with former state champions. Now a senior at Broughton High School and mock trial team captain, Sam has walked out of the courtroom for the last time and hopes the experience will inform his future. [05:40] Training Leaders, Not Lawyers: Chris explains that mock trial isn't necessarily about training future lawyers—it's about developing leadership skills, as demonstrated by Sam's ability to coordinate two teams with 16 people managing multiple extracurriculars. [07:16] “I Knew I Wanted to Coach”: Chris started coaching mock trial as a second-year law student at Wake Forest, even before he knew what NCAJ was. He’s been doing it for 32 years. [11:20] Call for Volunteers: Mock trial is a heavy lift. It’s also a unique way to help the next generation of lawyers. That’s why Chris puts out the welcome mat to volunteers. “I would encourage people who support mock trial with their time, their efforts, and also their money to keep doing it because it is a great program.” [13:08] New UIM Laws: The “UIM/UM Unpacked” CLE on Feb. 13 is sold out, but members will be able to view it on the NCAJ catalog next month. With his “legislative hat on,” Chris will present about new UIM laws. [17:01] “I’m the Medicaid Guy”: On Feb. 27, Chris will present about Medicaid disbursements at the “Disbursements 2026: Back to Basics” CLE. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and

Zack Kaplan sums up his inspiration for civil rights law in one word: Leandro. It’s long-running litigation that seeks to enforce the constitutional right to a sound basic education in North Carolina. As a fifth-grade teacher, Zack read frequently about the case. “I didn't even know that there was a constitutional right to a free public education under our North Carolina constitution. And the more I dug into it, the more it really – that mission and that purpose – really resonated with me,” he tells host Amber Nimocks. Zack eventually left teaching to become a lawyer, today focusing on state and constitutional claims, prison and police misconduct, and appellate litigation at Ballew Puryear. He is also the program chair of "Overcoming Immunity: Pro Tips for Success in Civil Rights Litigation," a CLE scheduled for January 29 at NCAJ headquarters in Raleigh. He invites all lawyers to attend because he believes that everyone in NCAJ advocates for marginalized people going up against an institutional power. “We're hoping that, in a small way, this will be useful in those types of claims.” Register here. 🎙️ Featured Guest 🎙️ Name: Zack Kaplan Connect: LinkedIn 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [02:21] Teacher to Lawyer: Zack spent three years as a fifth-grade teacher in East Durham before attending law school, an experience he describes as potentially his "best and most challenging job" of his career. [03:16] Civil Rights Foundation: As an undergrad at UNC Chapel Hill, Zack served as community organizer in historically Black communities, where he came to understand public education as a bedrock to building a multiracial democracy. [10:21] Standing Up for the Little Guy: Zack believes that he and everybody at NCAJ share a fundamental commitment to stand up for the “little guy.” [18:24] Law School Outreach Committee: As co-chair of NCAJ's Law School Outreach Committee, Zack is motivated to show students a variety of career paths. [23:02] “Struck by Lightning”: Zack describes being in the “right place, right time” to briefly clerk for Judge James Wynn, a relationship that led to connecting with other critical mentors. [26:07] NCAJ NEXT: “It was really impactful for me on several levels,” Zack says of the NCAJ NEXT fellowship program. [30:54] Civil Rights CLE: The January 29 CLE is designed to benefit all attorneys, even those who aren’t civil rights practitioners, because the work involves helping any marginalized person go up against larger institutional power. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and

In the last podcast of 2025, NCAJ President Carma Henson reflects on her first five months on the job. Carma and host Amber Nimocks talked about what it’s been like to lead the organization during one of the most eventful years in recent history and how much they are looking forward to 2026. Carma also talked about being the first Lumbee Indian to lead a statewide professional organization and what full federal recognition will mean for the Lumbees. Tune into this conversation for Carma’s insights on NCAJ’s advocacy in a challenging year. 🎙️ Featured Guest 🎙️ Name: Carma Henson Connect: LinkedIn 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [05:14] Historic First: Carma is the first Lumbee Indian to serve as president of NCAJ and the first Lumbee to serve as president of any statewide professional organization for lawyers in North Carolina. The tribe is one of the largest east of the Mississippi, with over 55,000 members. [11:08] Convention Conversation: At this summer’s NCAJ convention, one topic of conversation was the rule of law in response to actions of the Trump administration. Carma praises the “healthy” dialogue among members and breaks down the board of governor’s decision not to issue a public statement. [19:48] “Just the Way It Is”: That’s the feeling of hopelessness that many family members experience when they watch loved ones at the mercy of abusive nursing home caregivers, Carma says. “It doesn’t have to be ‘just the way it is.’” [25:51] Nursing Home Litigation: Medical malpractice caps are among the greatest challenges facing North Carolina nursing home litigators, Carma observes. “You've got the caps on non-economic damages, and so that scares some people away.” [26:15] Rapid Response: Carma salutes NCAJ's "rapid response team" for quickly training members so they could help those at risk when U.S. Border Patrol and ICE operations came to North Carolina. [29:30] "You're Never Alone”: That’s the message that Carla offers to Jason Orndoff, NCAJ president-elect. “Everybody's happy to listen and give advice, give insight. And that's what makes us a great organization,” she says. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. ☑️ Subscribe to Voices of NCAJ on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Voices of NCAJ features members of the North Carolina Advocates for Justice talking about what it means to be a trial lawyer, what it takes to be great at the practice of law and how being a part of NCAJ enriches their lives and their careers. Members of NCAJ belong to a nonprofit, nonpartisan

"I just met this person, and the state wants to kill him." That’s what Gretchen Engel was thinking the first time she met a death row inmate, as an intern at the Alabama Resource Center. Gretchen would eventually move to North Carolina and join the Center for Death Penalty Litigation in 1992. After 33 years, including a dozen as the CDPL’s executive director, she retired this summer. Gretchen reflects on victories and setbacks in this conversation with Amber Nimocks. And she looks ahead, suggesting that the state may be moving toward slowly abolishing the death penalty. 🎙️ Featured Guest 🎙️ Name: Gretchen Engel 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [02:44] Motivation: Gretchen explains how her interest in race and poverty led her to death penalty work, first in Alabama and eventually in North Carolina. [06:00] Clemency Campaign: Gretchen details the CDPL’s six-month campaign that led former Governor Easley to grant clemency to a Black man sentenced to death by all-white juries. [10:05] Changing the Narrative: In 2000, the CDPL worked with reporters from the “Charlotte Observer” on a series that exposed the inexperienced lawyers and sham trials of death row defendants. “It helped to start the public really thinking about how these cases are tried,” Gretchen recalls. [13:13] Successes: Gretchen highlights the CDPL’s successes over the years, including the creation of the Indigent Defense System and the state’s ban on executing people with intellectual disabilities. [16:09] Racial Justice Act: Four people have been removed from death row through this law that created a record of racism in jury selection across North Carolina. [18:30] HB 307: This legislation, recently enacted, is committed to speeding up death penalty cases and exploring “increasingly barbaric methods of punishment,” Gretchen says. [21:28] “Pure Demagoguery”: Gretchen discusses how politicians capitalize on “fear and hatred” to push forward legislation in the aftermath of particularly brutal crimes. [24:50] Clemency: On December 31, 2024, North Carolina Governor Cooper commuted a record number of death penalty sentences – 15. Eleven were represented by the CDPL. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. ☑️ Subscribe to Voices of NCAJ on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Voices of NCAJ features members of the North Carolina Advocates for Justice talking about what it means to be a trial lawyer, what it takes to be great at the practice of law and how being a part of NCAJ enriches their lives and their careers. Members of NCAJ belong to a nonprofit, nonpartisan association of legal professionals dedicated to empowering a strong community of trial lawyers to protect people, prevent injustice and promote fairness. Membership affords many benefits and we’re proud to offer...

“Improved appellate advocacy betters us all,” says Chris Edwards. “It betters the court system. It betters our outcomes.” The co-chair of Ward and Smith's Appellate Practice, Chris discusses how trial lawyers can improve their appellate advocacy in this conversation with host Amber Nimocks. He also highlights his new column for “Trial Briefs,” NCAJ’s flagship publication, where he shares his “superpowers” with NCAJ members. And he previews his Nov. 12 virtual CLE, “Winning on Appeal Starts at Trial,” where he’ll cover issue preservation, record building, and best practices. 🎙️ Featured Guest 🎙️ Name: Chris Edwards Connect: LinkedIn 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [02:00] Path to Appellate Practice: Clerkships in a federal district court and the US Court of Appeals shaped Chris’ career. “The first four years that I was in practice, all I knew was writing for, talking to, persuading judges.” [03:38] Different Superpowers: Chris explains how appellate lawyers use storytelling differently than trial lawyers—telling the client's story through written briefs rather than in front of juries. [05:06] Thinking Ahead: Even if trial lawyers don't handle appeals themselves, they should think strategically to ensure success if the case goes to appeal, Chris says. [08:34] Vanguard v. Moody: Chris recaps his first “Appellate Thinking” column, which focused on the Supreme Court's ruling requiring specificity in motions for directed verdict. [11:43] Evolving Case Law: Chris explains the fascinating part of appellate practice—watching how settled case law changes over time and seeing where courts are moving the law. [14:24] Shifting Trends: Every US Supreme Court chief justice moves the court in a different direction, Chris observes. [16:40] Coddle v. Mankin: Chris recalls co-authoring an NCAJ amicus brief about whether negligent supervision claims fall under medical malpractice laws. [19:15] The Trial Lawyer Dynamic: “Practically speaking, an appellate lawyer's client is the trial lawyer,” Chris says as he explains the relationship. “I get to help my friends solve cool problems.” [21:05] Common Appellate Questions: The three most common questions that Chris hears from trial lawyers: appellate timelines, post-trial motions, and assembling the record. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. ☑️ Subscribe to Voices of NCAJ on

Within hours of each other, two things happened that changed Coleman Cowan’s life. While waiting to take a deposition as a young associate, he realized that his reward for working hard would be more hard work. Hours later, while leaving that deposition, he was shot in a random mugging. Despite colleagues calling him “crazy,” Coleman left law to pursue journalism, eventually becoming an Emmy-winning producer for “60 Minutes.” In this conversation with host Amber Nimocks, he discusses his journey from North Carolina courtrooms to war zones around the world and back to North Carolina, where he now leads the litigation section at the Law Offices of James Scott Farrin. Coleman also previews his upcoming presentation at NCAJ's Strategy Summit. Called “To Live, Not Exist: What Our Experiences Can Teach Us About Managing Stress and Anxiety,” his program will be on Oct. 23, the first day of the two-day summit. 🎙️ Featured Guest 🎙️ Name: Coleman Cowan Connect: LinkedIn 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [02:34] The Epiphany: Two seminal events, occurring just hours apart, changed the course of Coleman’s life. [07:39] “Monumentally Foolish Decision”: Everyone from partners to judges to law professors told Coleman he was "crazy" for leaving his successful legal career. [07:51] Two Important Voices: Coleman's parents and then-girlfriend (now wife) were the two voices that encouraged his dramatic career change. [10:50] Testing the Waters: Coleman talked his way into “Business Week” magazine to test his journalism idea before committing to graduate school. [11:00] Hurricane Katrina: Coleman's first assignment covering Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans confirmed that he was "onto something pretty special" with journalism. [12:32] Breakthrough: “60 Minutes" picked up Coleman's Columbia master's project on NYPD evidence storage. [16:06] Naive to the Danger: ”It was only when we extracted from the situation that I really dawned on me how dangerous some of these places were,” Coleman says about covering stories from locations like Afghanistan, Mexico, and Russia. [17:07] FSB Surveillance: Coleman describes being followed by Russian intelligence while reporting on Alexei Navalny's presidential campaign. [18:21] It’s All Relative: When “60 Minutes” staff were stressed about a story, Coleman told himself that “this is not stressful.” TV producers are surrounded by people who want the show to succeed – while lawyers face opposing counsel who are tearing them down. [23:52] Strategy Summit Preview: In his presentation, Coleman will tell stories from his journalism career and how those stories inform his current litigation practice. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook,

To NCAJ members who have an appeal or just want another set of eyes on a brief, Sam McGee says, “Shoot me an email.” As NCAJ’s Legal Affairs counsel, he oversees the organization's amicus briefs program and moot courts while representing member interests at the State Bar Ethics Committee. In this conversation with host Amber Nimocks, Sam outlines the committee’s advocacy, including its amicus brief in a recent North Carolina Supreme Court eminent domain case. He also discusses how it supports members, including brief reviews, moot courts, and informal assistance that spans all practice areas. 🎙️ Featured Guest 🎙️ Name: Sam McGee 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [02:07] Watchdog: As NCAJ’s Legal Affairs counsel, Sam supports members by monitoring the State Bar Ethics Committee publications for its proposed opinions and rule changes. [02:42] Potential Red Flag: Sam details how NCAJ's intervention prevented a problematic ethics opinion that could have undermined criminal defendants' rights to discovery. [05:16] Beyond PI and Med-Mal: The Legal Affairs Committee has a strong representation of criminal defense practitioners so that it addresses concerns of all members. [08:12] Moot Court Program: The Legal Affairs Committee conducted 19 moot courts last fiscal year, serving everyone from first-time appellate attorneys to experienced practitioners. [09:34] There for Everybody: Sam encourages members of all ages and experience levels to take advantage of moot courts and brief assistance. [11:32] Town of Apex v. Rubin: The Supreme Court of North Carolina recently agreed with the NCAJ’s amicus brief in an eminent domain case, protecting property rights and establishing important precedents. [15:22] Safe Child Act Cases: Sam describes NCAJ's involvement in three cases that upheld the extended statute of limitations for childhood sexual abuse cases. [20:39] Ethics CLE: The Legal Affairs Committee is planning for the February 25 ethics CLE, which will cover artificial intelligence and ethical concerns from TV shows and movies. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. ☑️ Subscribe to Voices of NCAJ on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Voices of NCAJ features members of the North Carolina Advocates for Justice talking about what it means to be a trial lawyer, what it takes to be great at the practice of law and how being a part of NCAJ enriches their lives and their careers. Members of NCAJ belong to a nonprofit, nonpartisan association of legal professionals dedicated to empowering a strong community of trial lawyers to protect people, prevent injustice...

As a social worker, Billie Guthrie was drawn into all the factors at play in her clients’ struggles. As a Social Security Disability attorney for The Deuterman Law Group, she is laser-focused on getting clients the benefits they deserve. Tune in to this conversation with host Amber Nimocks as Billie reflects on her unique journey to making “tangible differences” in clients’ lives. And attend the NCAJ’s upcoming day-long CLE, "Social Security Disability Updates and Practical Pointers for 2025 and Beyond," to learn more about her strategies and insights. Held at NCAJ’s Raleigh headquarters, the September 18 event will kick-off the fall season of in-person, member-led CLE programming. Billie’s topic for the CLE is strengthening cases involving mental health impairments and substance abuse, but email her if you’re attending and have a question. 🎙️ Featured Guest 🎙️ Name: Billie Guthrie Connect: LinkedIn 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [03:00] Clear Path in Mind: Billie intentionally attended Appalachian State to earn a Bachelor's of Social Work because it fast-tracked her to earn an MSW. [06:22] Social Justice: Billie didn’t know much about what a social worker actually does – but she knew the vocation aligned with her values. [08:48] Club Nova Experience: Billie details her meaningful work at a psychiatric rehabilitation program for adults with severe and persistent mental illness. [12:07] Critical Choice: As she entered her MSW program, Billie faced a choice: Did she want to do therapy or policy-based work? She chose the latter. [14:14] Policy Advocacy: One of Billie’s first policy roles was with a project called Reclaiming Futures, which focused on fixing the preschool-to-prision pipeline. [15:40] Law School: Billie explains how her desire to learn more and be more effective drove her to attend Central's evening program while working full time. [18:30] The Motivation: Billie’s transition to law was inspired by seeing how systems confined efforts to help people. “I saw: This person's success in the community is only going to go so far if our systems are set up in the way that they're set up.” Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. ☑️ Subscribe to Voices of NCAJ on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Voices of NCAJ features members of the North...

Curiosity has driven Leslie’s Leake’s remarkable career, which NCAJ recently celebrated with the awarding of its prestigious Robby Price Award. The lead paralegal for the Law Offices of James Scott Farrin, Leslie said her advice to up-and-coming paralegals who want to stay engaged in their careers: Keep asking questions. “Stay curious,” she says. Her nominator described her as an “unspoken hero.” In this conversation with host Amber Nimocks, Leslie shares her path from defense to plaintiff's work, tales from the frontlines (including climbing on file cabinets and facing down barking dogs), and lessons learned from serving everyone from judges to clients in shackles. 🎙️ Featured Guest 🎙️ Name: Leslie Leake, Law Offices of James Scott Farrin Connect: LinkedIn 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [01:52] Early Start: Leslie became a deputy clerk of court at just 18, making her the youngest courtroom clerk in her district before even graduating high school. [02:15] On-the-Job Training: One minute, she’d be working with a judge or probation officer. The next, she’d be listening to a person in shackles explaining why they’re in court that day. [05:48] An Invaluable Skill: At the clerk’s office, “you have DAs coming at you. The public’s asking to see you. The judge is asking you questions. It taught me how to remain calm.” [08:30] “Briefs Do Not Scare Me”: While working for a defense attorney, Leslie became immersed in detailed research on insurance policies. There, she learned the importance of precise writing, right down to where to place a comma. [11:30] “Am I Limiting Myself?”: In her early 40s, Leslie pursued her business administration and law degree while working full time, often studying until 3 a.m. [15:21] Taking Risks: Working in James Scott Farrin's Triage Department, Leslie once faced down barking dogs to retrieve surveillance footage that would help a client's case. [17:15] Giving Back: As a mentor to young paralegals, Leslie emphasizes the importance of understanding why you're doing tasks, not just following templates, because there are consequences for mistakes. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. ☑️ Subscribe to Voices of NCAJ on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Voices of NCAJ features members of the North Carolina Advocates for Justice talking about what it means to be a trial lawyer, what it takes to be great at the practice of law and how being a part of NCAJ enriches their lives and their careers. Members of NCAJ belong to a nonprofit, nonpartisan association of legal professionals dedicated to empowering a strong community of trial lawyers to protect people, prevent injustice and promote fairness. Membership affords many benefits and we’re proud to offer discounts and opportunities thanks to our tremendous community of sponsors and partners....

Rosa Antunez Boatwright, an immigrant from Honduras, was excited to attend community college in her new Florida home – until the college rescinded its acceptance because of her immigration status. Fast forward years later. Today, she is a personal injury attorney at the Law Offices of James Scott Farrin and the incoming chair of NCAJ's Hispanic/Latino Legal Issues Division. In this conversation with host Amber Nimocks, Rosa explains how national and local legislation affecting the Hispanic community means that all lawyers need to be “on our toes.” “If we need to get together next week because of something that happened this week, we need to be able to do that and have those open discussions,” she says. Tune in to learn about Rosa’s journey from Honduras, her path from paralegal to lawyer, and her experience as an NCAJ NEXT Leadership Program fellow. 🎙️ Featured Guest 🎙️ Name: Rosa Antunez Boatwright Connect: LinkedIn 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [01:38] Idyllic Childhood: Rosa describes growing up in Honduras' capital surrounded by mountains, with her father owning a candy factory and her mother was a psychologist. [03:06] Hurricane Mitch: In 1998, Hurricane Mitch devastated Rosa’s family's candy factory and forced them to move to the United States. [06:33] “We Can’t Enroll You”: She was accepted to community college, made the cheerleading team, and then came the letter. “Nevermind. We can’t enroll you.” Why? Because of her immigration status. [09:02] The Ad Said “Paralegal”: Her first job was as a medical secretary for a chiropractor. It came in handy when she wanted to pivot to law: a firm sought someone with medical experience to join them as a paralegal. [12:49] Breakthrough Case: Rosa convinced a judge that an unmarried couple was common law married under South Carolina law, securing recovery for the surviving partner and children. [15:04] NEXT Leadership Program: Rosa describes the transformative experience of the NCAJ NEXT program that prepared her for introspective leadership both personally and professionally. [17:26] Leadership Goals: Rosa outlines her plans for multiple roundtables and responsive meetings to help attorneys navigate challenging legislation and government changes affecting Hispanic clients. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. ☑️ Subscribe to Voices of NCAJ on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Voices of NCAJ features members of the North Carolina Advocates for Justice talking about what it means to be a trial lawyer, what it takes to be great at the practice of law and how being a part of NCAJ enriches their lives and their careers. Members of NCAJ belong to a nonprofit, nonpartisan...

“Somebody told me, ‘Hey, if you want to do criminal defense, you really need to join NCAJ.’ And they were absolutely right.” The year was 2008, and Lindsey Granados had just begun practicing law. Fast forward to 2025. She owns Granados Law Group and is a newly elected member of NCAJ’s Board of Governors. In this conversation with host Amber Nimocks, Lindsey reflects on her journey to criminal defense law, the early jury verdict that convinced her she was in the right job, and her goals on the NCAJ board. She looks back at the impact of NCAJ’s influential listserv system and contemplates the future of North Carolina’s eCourts system. 🎙️ Featured Guest 🎙️ Name: Lindsey Granados Connect: LinkedIn 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [02:27] NCAJ Journey: Lindsey explains how she joined NCAJ right after starting practice in 2008 and how the criminal defense law listserv helped her learn the practice. [03:14] Listserv Mentorship: Lindsey describes how NCAJ members would call her within minutes or hours to provide answers and guidance throughout her career. [03:30] Women's Caucus: Lindsey discusses joining the Women's Caucus and attending the women's retreat, highlighting the energy and connections formed. [06:19] eCourts Rollout: Requested by a Wake County judge to help implement eCourts, Lindsey identifies lack of communication and system slowdowns as the greatest challenges. [13:38] Career Switch: Lindsey explains how the 2008 economic downturn led her from wanting to be a prosecutor to criminal defense through court-appointed cases. [16:12 Eight Minutes: In Lindsey’s first jury trial, on a communicating threats case, the jury deliberated for only eight minutes before awarding her a victory. [17:08] Board Goals: Lindsey outlines her hopes to listen to experienced board members and continue NCAJ's legislative efforts for the next decade. [19:06] Professional Impact: Lindsey describes NCAJ as the most defining professional membership of her career and her commitment to mentoring newer lawyers. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. ☑️ Subscribe to Voices of NCAJ on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Voices of NCAJ features members of the North Carolina Advocates for Justice talking about what it means to be a trial lawyer, what it takes to be great at the practice of law and how being a part of NCAJ enriches their lives and their careers. Members of NCAJ belong to a nonprofit, nonpartisan association of legal professionals dedicated to empowering a strong community of trial lawyers to protect people, prevent injustice and promote fairness. Membership affords many benefits and we’re proud to offer discounts and opportunities...

Taking the leap from employee to firm owner requires courage, but having the right partner makes all the difference. Jacob Morse and Spencer Fritts discovered their partnership potential through NCAJ's NEXT leadership program, where they bonded as classmates despite barely knowing each other at Campbell Law School. In this conversation with host Amber Nimocks, they discuss their journey from fellows to co-founders of Morse Fritts, their Raleigh-based personal injury firm. As leaders in NCAJ's New Lawyers Division, they will attend Convention 2025 later this month, and Jacob describes the value for all members. “It's a no-brainer if you can get there,” he says. Convention 2025 will be held in Charlotte, June 18-20. Learn more and register here. 🎙️ Featured Guests 🎙️ Name: Spencer Fritts Connect: LinkedIn Name: Jacob Morse Connect: LinkedIn 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [02:11] NCAJ Connection: Spencer explains how the NEXT program was pivotal in forming their friendship and eventual business partnership. [03:33] Daily Support Network: Jacob describes how NCAJ members serve as regular resources for referrals, questions, and case collaboration. [04:30] Early NCAJ Experience: Jacob attended NCAJ's Professionalism for New Attorneys CLE before even becoming a member or plaintiff's lawyer. [06:40] Leadership Development: Spencer details how NEXT allowed him to grow into leadership roles, including as chair of the New Lawyers Division and Professional Negligence Section. [08:35] The Partnership Decision: Jacob explains how conversations with other NCAJ members who had started their own firms confirmed their decision to take the leap. [09:39] Member Support: Spencer credits supportive NCAJ members for giving him and Jacob confidence to start their own firm. [15:46] First Settlement Success: Jacob recalls their anxiety over their first case settlement and the confidence boost it provided. [19:03] Convention Value: Spencer explains why attending NCAJ Convention remains a priority despite their busy new firm schedule. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. ☑️ Subscribe to Voices of NCAJ on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Voices of NCAJ features members of the...

As chair of NCAJ’s political action committee, Jon Moore is committed to expanding NCAJ's political influence through strategic relationships across party lines. In this conversation with host Amber Nimocks, he explains how PAC contributions have been instrumental in recent legislative victories, including major insurance reforms. As Convention 2025 co-chair Jon also cherishes the unique professional camaraderie that sets NCAJ apart from other legal organizations. He urges younger and older attorneys to make connections through the organization. Convention 2025 will be held in Charlotte, June 18-20. Learn more and register here. 🎙️ Featured Guest 🎙️ Name: Jon Moore Connect: LinkedIn 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [02:00] Pivotal Year: The PAC’s mission is to grow its donor base, Jon says. [05:06] Legislative Wins: NCAJ has secured significant insurance reforms, including increased minimum liability coverage limits and mandatory underinsured motorist coverage. [07:06] Member Engagement: Jon explains why growing the number of PAC contributors beyond heavy donors strengthens NCAJ's legislative voice. [08:53] NCAJ’s Voice: NCAJ's influence means that legislators now proactively seek the organization's input on pending legislation rather than NCAJ playing defense. [13:35] Age Is Only A Number: Sometimes, Jon says, the “older generation” of lawyers “don't always do the best job of reaching out” so the younger generation of leaders shouldn’t be afraid to reach out to them. [17:59] NCAJ’s Value: The organization provides both professional resources and personal connections that Jon believes set it apart from defense-side practice and many other industries. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. ☑️ Subscribe to Voices of NCAJ on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Voices of NCAJ features members of the North Carolina Advocates for Justice talking about what it means to be a trial lawyer, what it takes to be great at the practice of law and how being a part of NCAJ enriches their lives and their careers. Members of NCAJ belong to a nonprofit, nonpartisan association of legal professionals dedicated to empowering a strong community of trial lawyers to protect people, prevent injustice and promote fairness. Membership affords many benefits and we’re proud to offer discounts and opportunities thanks to our tremendous community of sponsors and partners. Join today!

“What we do is tough, and Convention can be really cathartic,” says Kristen Dewar, co-chair of NCAJ's upcoming Convention 2025 in Charlotte. Speaking with host Amber Nimocks, Kristen previews the event, highlighting the return of the Masters in Criminal Defense program and the location of the Friday Soiree at the NASCAR Hall of Fame. A Charlotte resident, Kristen also shares her journey from Toronto to North Carolina, where she's built a criminal defense career she's dreamed of since age 4. Now finishing her second term as NCAJ’s DEI vice president, Kristen discusses NCAJ's Building Bridges to Excellence Initiative and the new Ambassador Program designed to welcome newcomers to the organization. Convention 2025 will be held in Charlotte, June 18-20. Learn more and register here. 🎙️ Featured Guest 🎙️ Name: Kristen Dewar Connect: LinkedIn 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [01:59] Finding NCAJ: Kristen joined during law school when her criminal justice clinic professor suggested using the listserv for case advice. [02:43] Building Connections: A sparsely attended Women's Caucus event in Charlotte provided quality time with NCAJ leaders, inspiring Kristen to see leadership possibilities for herself. [04:18] Building Bridges Initiative: As DEI vice president, Kristen helped develop this initiative to foster connections and ensure NCAJ's membership reflects diverse experiences and perspectives. [05:35] Ambassador Program: This new program will connect convention first-timers with veteran members, creating a welcoming environment and empowering longtime members. [08:15] Canadian Roots: Kristen shares her journey from Toronto to Charlotte, explaining she's been "running from the snow" and wanted to stay in the same time zone as her family. [09:53] Born Defender: Since age four, Kristen had a strong sense of justice, standing up for classmates accused of classroom infractions and inspired by TV lawyers. [11:47] Practical Experience: A high school co-op program placed Kristen with a criminal defense attorney in Toronto, allowing her to appear in court and continue cases—an experience that confirmed her career path. [13:10] Return of the Masters: Convention 2025 will feature the return of the Masters in Criminal Defense program, focused on DWI defense. [13:33] Back in Charlotte: Another convention highlight this year is its return to Charlotte, which last hosted the event in 2022. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. ☑️ Subscribe to Voices of NCAJ on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Voices of NCAJ features members of the North Carolina Advocates for Justice talking about what it means to be a trial...

After wrongful conviction, exoneration brings freedom but not healing. Chris Mumma, Executive Director of the NC Center on Actual Innocence, joins host Amber Nimocks to discuss the unique challenges faced by those released after years of wrongful imprisonment. Inspired by Joseph Sledge, who took his own life five years after being exonerated following 37 years in prison, the center is creating the Joseph Sledge Houses of Healing—a first-of-its-kind transitional sanctuary where exonerees can decompress and begin healing with comprehensive support. The project, being built on Second Act Farm in rural Alamance County, aims to address the often-overlooked trauma of wrongful incarceration. Learn more about how you can support the center's new re-entry project at their website at www.nccai.org or at Second Act Farm. You can also follow the center on Facebook. 🎙️ Featured Guest 🎙️ Name: Chris Mumma Connect: LinkedIn 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [01:54] Center Origins: The NC Center on Actual Innocence was incorporated in June 2000, consolidating work that started at UNC and Duke to prevent duplication of efforts. [03:46] Personal Pivot: Chris left a finance career and initially planned to practice corporate law before her clerkship revealed systemic justice issues she wanted to address. [06:35] Successes: The center has achieved 12 complete exonerations, helped six others gain release, and participated in investigating 18 additional exonerations over more than two decades. [08:19] Psychological Wounds: Being wrongfully imprisoned creates a fundamentally different psychological experience than serving time for an actual crime, with the constant question of "why?" eroding mental health. [12:56] Joseph's Story: Joseph Sledge spent 37 years in prison for a double murder he didn't commit. After his exoneration, he struggled to adjust to a changed world, eventually taking his own life after five years of freedom. [15:39] Houses of Healing: In partnership with journalists Mandy Locke and Alex Granados of Second Act Farm, the center is building two small homes—one for exonerees to live in temporarily and another for family reunification and service providers. [21:41] How to Help: You can donate funds, purchase items from an Amazon gift list for the homes, or attend work days and the upcoming ribbon-cutting ceremony in May. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. ☑️ Subscribe to Voices of NCAJ on

From bartender to high school English teacher to senior claims counsel, Warren Savage’s winding career path brings valuable skills to his role at Lawyers Mutual. He sits down with host Amber Nimocks for a conversation about supporting small and solo practitioners, including lots of NCAJ members. Drawing from his insurance defense background, Warren offers a unique perspective on bridging divides between opposing counsel. He and colleagues from Lawyers Mutual will share insights during NCAJ’s Sidebar Social events at cities around the state this spring and summer. Click here to learn more. 🎙️ Featured Guest 🎙️ Name: Warren Savage Connect: LinkedIn 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [02:27] JV Coach to Claims Counsel: Warren jokes about his path from high school English teacher to legal claims counsel, saying he "didn't know what I wanted to be until I was 40." [04:35] Back Behind the Bar: Warren and his wife recently purchased House Creek Beverage Company, bringing his career full circle from his bartending days. [05:30] Teaching Skills Transfer: His background in teaching prepared Warren perfectly for his current role delivering CLEs to attorneys across the state. [07:49] Sidebar Socials: Warren enjoys participating in these events because they give him the opportunity to meet NCAJ members in-person and not in a crisis situation. [08:57] Solo Support Network: NCAJ members often come from small or solo firms without built-in mentorship, making Lawyers Mutual's support especially valuable. [11:02] Insurance Defense Beginnings: Despite initially declaring he'd never become an insurance defense lawyer, Warren's first position proved invaluable to his current work. [13:29] Bridge Builder: Having worked with both plaintiff and defense attorneys, Warren often serves as a peacemaker between opposing counsel. [16:22] Persistent Pitfalls: Despite technological advances, the most common issues remain timeless: statute of limitations problems and managing difficult clients. [19:50] Proactive Networking: Warren highlights the importance of young attorneys reaching out proactively for mentorship, citing Lex-Jordan Ibegbu as an exemplary model. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. ☑️ Subscribe to Voices of NCAJ on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Voices of NCAJ features members of the North Carolina Advocates for Justice talking about what it...

With February being CLE season at NCAJ, host Amber Nimocks welcomes Lauren Newton, an NCAJ leader who has helped develop popular CLEs, including the auto torts series. Lauren also discusses her involvement in other NCAJ initiatives, such as helping launch its Women’s Caucus. She describes serving as a delegate for the American Association for Justice (AAJ) and – if all that’s not enough – acting as an avid Instagram poster outside of her law practice. Visit the NCAJ’s event calendar to learn about upcoming CLEs. 🎙️ Featured Guest 🎙️ Name: Lauren Newton Connect: LinkedIn | Instagram 💡 Episode Highlights 💡 [02:25] Amazing CLEs: Lauren reveals the secrets behind the NCAJ’s successful CLEs, including the virtual technology that broadens participation among trial lawyers. [08:12] Liens and Disbursements: For eight or nine years, Lauren has presented at this popular seminar that covers the “necessary evil” that all plaintiffs’ lawyers have to contend with. She’ll do so again this year, on Feb. 21. [08:49] The Women’s Caucus: Lauren recalls how she helped launch this NCAJ group shortly after she had her first child. She served as the chair for two years. [12:18] Secure Leave: The caucus spurred the codification of secured leave, a policy that protects lawyers who need to take off more than the previous standard of three weeks for childbirth or adoption. [15:53]: Women’s Caucus Retreat: It’s gotten bigger and bigger each year. It's different from other events because it transcends one practice area. This year, it will be held on March 13 and 14. [20:19] Find Her on Instagram: Lauren’s Instagram journey began when she decided to document all the “crazy decisions” she made while shepherding DIY projects at home. [28:33] AAJ Delegate: In addition to her work with NCAJ, Lauren is a delegate to the American Association for Justice (AAJ). She describes the group’s work ending forced arbitrations in the employment context. Connect with North Carolina Advocates for Justice ☑️ Follow us on X, Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. ☑️ Subscribe to Voices of NCAJ on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Voices of NCAJ features members of the North Carolina Advocates for Justice talking about what it means to be a trial lawyer, what it takes to be great at the practice of law and how being a part of NCAJ enriches their lives and their careers. Members of NCAJ belong to a nonprofit, nonpartisan association of legal professionals dedicated to empowering a strong community of trial lawyers to protect people, prevent...