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WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | You Can’t Have It All at the Same Time (And That’s Okay): Kathy Van Ness, COO, Golden Door Properties

Kathy Van Ness, COO of Golden Door Properties, exudes the serene calm of someone who knows she can have it all. . . but, she says, “not all at the same time.” With candid honesty, this seasoned exec recalls choosing work at the expense of missed PTA meetings and bake sales with a refreshing lack of mommy-guilt. “Whether you want to work or have to work, none of that has to do with love,” she concludes. In this episode, hear the backstory behind this radically real attitude, from a first job...


WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | The Power of Vulnerability: Giorgos Tsetis, Co-Founder and CEO, Nutrafol®

Would you rather have a full head of hair or a healthy sex drive? Sounds like the lead up to a game of “Would You Rather. . . ” but this was the real-life scenario Giorgos Tsetis, Co-Founder and CEO of Nutrafol®, was facing in his early 20s. With a thriving modeling career at stake, he had to make the impossible choice of taking a hair-growth drug that would keep him employed, but in turn, cause him sexual dysfunction. Eventually the trade-off became too great, which led him to found...


WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | Big Fish, Small Pond; Small Pond, Big Fish: Danya Klein, VP, Brand Relations Preen.Me

There are those who prefer the scrappiness of startup life and those who thrive in traditional corporate settings. Then there’s Danya Klein, VP of Brand Relations at Preen.Me, who has successfully adapted to both scenarios. “Startups know how to think, innovate and be creative, but when they need to package and market their own product, it can be difficult. I think that’s where there’s a strong opportunity for marketers who have worked in corporate settings to add a lot of value.” In this...

WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | Day in the Life | The Importance of Intent: Kim Vo, Celebrity Colorist and Entrepreneur

They say the road to success isn’t always easy, but celebrity colorist, entrepreneur and TV personality Kim Vo knows it also doesn’t have to break you, either. His ever-expanding career now includes four salons, a show with Tori Spelling and a celebrity client list that reads like the homepage of TMZ. All of which have contributed to his reputation as the “Best Blonder In the Business”. In this episode, he reveals how it all happened from humble beginnings, and how intention, effort and...


WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | Podcasters We Love: Kelly Campbell, Agency Growth Consultant

In this episode, host Jodi Katz shifts the focus from beauty to media in a new mini-series called Podcasters We Love. Up at the mic is Kelly Campbell, an agency growth consultant and host of Thrive, a podcast that covers topics unique to creative, media and tech agencies. As a former agency owner herself, Kelly shares her own journey from business owner to consultant, the origins of Thrive and the story behind it’s fast-track to success. This episode is part of our Podcasters We Love...


WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | The Cure For Perfect: Poppy Jamie, Founder, Happy Not Perfect

By her early 20s, Poppy Jamie was already leading an enviable, “perfect” life: She was a successful TV personality, had her own Snapchat show and designed an accessories line with her best friend Suki Waterhouse. But underneath the gloss of social media was a different reality - an overworked, always-on existence. You know, the kind that paves the road to burnout? She also knew she wasn’t the only one experiencing this kind of stress; DM’s from fans sharing the same struggles confirmed to...


WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | Evolution of a CEO: Divya Gugnani, CEO & Founder, Wander Beauty

Hours after the birth of her daughter, Divya Gugnani, CEO and Founder of Wander Beauty, was already asking her husband if he’d be okay with one more. “One more baby?!” he asked, incredulous. Her response? “No, one more company!” Said like a true serial entrepreneur. Formerly an investment banker, she’s successfully founded four companies in three widely different sectors. And like human babies, those businesses have had their special quirks and needs, shaping her leadership style along the...


WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | The Unexpected Upshot of Invisibility Bias: Rachel Winard, Founder, Soapwalla

Change can be slow. Though we’re almost two decades into the 21st century, beauty standards have only just begun widening in scope. Just ask Rachel Winard, founder of skincare line Soapwalla. “I like the way I look, but I’m not the typical face of a skincare company.” With a penchant for designs shaved into her hair and tattooed arms on display, she describes a sense of invisibility within the beauty industry. “Usually, you see long flowing hair, very light skin. You either look like that,...


WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | How To Be a Makeup Artist: Cathi Singh, Makeup Artist and Owner, LemonPenny Productions

There are some jobs you can’t get a degree in, and have no linear point of entry or even a standardized test for qualification. You know, like makeup artist? So, here to break down how to break into this arm of the beauty industry is Cathi Singh, a California-based MUA. Sharing her experience on everything from how to get started to what you need to learn beyond cosmo school, she demystifies the process of making a dream job reality. @wherebrainsmeetbeautypodcast wherebrainsmeetbeauty.com


WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | The Art of Freelancing: Gina Way, Beauty Writer and Expert

Freelancing isn’t for the faint of heart: No two days are the same, and neither are the paychecks. But there’s a delicious freedom that comes with being your own boss and taking full agency over your career. On this episode, beauty writer and freelancer extraordinaire Gina Way breaks down the strategies that have kept the projects - and the checks - rolling in. From how to hustle, how to get paid and how to pick yourself up when you feel like you’ll never work again, this is a must listen...


WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | Out of the Comfort Zone: Mabel Lee, Founder of Velour Lashes

Mabel Lee’s is the classic story of a hobby, born out of a desire for a better product, turned successful business. Lee created Velour Lashes while still in college in Toronto, and seven years later is defining success in a deeper way than just the numbers. Seeing her team grow as humans both personally and professionally, while delivering a game-changing product that helps women streamline and polish their beauty routine, is the true reward. (Though the brand’s overnight social media...


WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | Life After the C-Suite: Dawn Robertson, Co-Founder, Timeless Beauty Bar

In classic corporate hierarchy, the CEO pretty much occupies the highest perch. But for those who have made it that far up, what happens when there’s no more corporate ladder to climb? Dawn Robertson, founder of Timeless Beauty Bar, had to ask herself that question after decades as President or CEO of several major apparel companies and retailers. And what she found was a lot like what landed her the top jobs in the first place: A need for transition and growth. In this episode, she gets...


WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | Elise Saetta | FGI Winner, Macy's Fashion Director - Beauty

WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | Elise Saetta | FGI Winner, Macy's Fashion Director - Beauty


WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | The Friendship Factor: Alicia Sontag, Partner, Prelude Growth Partners and Carla Ruiz, VP, Business Development, Johnson & Johnson

Consider this episode a double header on friendship and business. Alicia Sontag of Prelude Growth Partners and Carla Ruiz of Johnson & Johnson met on the job and have stayed friends ever since. Over time their career paths have diverged, Alicia striking out on her own and Carla heading up Business Development at Johnson & Johnson, but their missions have stayed the same: Helping the next generation of entrepreneurs create what they believe will become iconic global powerhouse brands. The...


WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | Unlearning What You Know: Leigh and Jeremy Adelman, Co-Founders of Artis

The story of an brilliant business idea first sketched on a napkin is the stuff of legends, but in the case of Artis co-founders Leigh and Jeremy Adelman, it’s the real thing. Designed by co-founder Matthew Waitesmith, Artis has changed the way people apply makeup by completely changing the look and feel of makeup brushes, and in doing so, helping consumers unlearn bad beauty habits, one application at a time. Their process took patience, life savings, and a few tears, but the results have...


WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | The Serial Disruptor: Barry Beck, Co-Founder and COO, Bluemercury

Every entrepreneur has a different reason for going into business for him or herself. For Barry Beck, Co-Founder and COO of Bluemercury, it was a desire for personal autonomy, but even deeper than that, an almost instinctive need to disrupt and change industries. And that he has done. From snow shoveling loyalty programs at age 10 to forever changing how consumers shop for beauty, he’s changed every industry he’s worked in. In this episode, he shares key lessons from his many successes, and...


WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | Failure Is Just a Learning Curve

Are we afraid of failure itself, or are we really just afraid of what other people will think of us if we fail? As a serial entrepreneur, Mariya Nurislamova has had to grapple with that question many times over, and more importantly, not let fear become the boss. In this episode, the CEO of Scentbird and Deck of Scarlet shares a few of her most memorable failures and her techniques for moving past them. She also touches on the pros of being bi-culturally Russian/American and how Scentbird is...


WHERE BRAINS MEET BEAUTY™ | A Fighting Spirit: Francesco Clark, Founder, Clark’s Botanicals

What can make a beauty brand unique is often the founder’s story. There’s a trust and connection that just happens when you know hey - there’s an actual human behind this product! Often times those products are created to address an issue *said* founder has personal experience with, and for this episode’s guest, Francesco Clark, the origins of Clark’s Botanicals targeted exactly that. Except it wasn’t acne or the realization of a market white space that led him to the helm of his company -...



Kristy Engels doesn’t have a beauty line, and isn’t a retailer, either. As the SVP of Marketing and Brand Strategy at Beauty Strategy Group and Beauty Barrage, she’s the third party you need when you’re the former trying to reach the latter. In other words: A vendor. “A lot of startup brands don’t have big internal teams - everyone they utilize is an outside vendor. I think for them, “vendor” isn’t necessarily a bad word,” says Kristy. “But maybe for those more established, with all of the...



Charlotte Cho - Co-Founder Soko Glam