You Are A Lawyer: Take Risks and Change Careers in Law

Debra Whitson is a New York-based attorney, former prosecutor, family law mediator, and author of Divorce Like a Pro. In this conversation, she shares how mediation offers a healthier alternative to courtroom battles—and why divorce doesn’t have to destroy families. With decades of experience, Debra helps clients find clarity, peace, and dignity in even the most difficult transitions. LAWYER SIDE HUSTLES Debra’s side hustle became a calling: she wrote Divorce Like a Pro to provide an accessible, empowering guide for anyone going through separation or family breakdown. The book distills her real-world experience into practical advice and it’s a resource she wishes more people had earlier. “I wrote the book because I found myself saying the same things over and over again to clients… there are better ways.,” shares Debra Whitson in Episode 75 of You Are a Lawyer.When she’s not running her practice or writing, Debra is a global advocate for women’s rights through Zonta International. Her passion for service, travel, and equity informs her entire professional ethos, from her client relationships to her vision of justice. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Divorce Like a Pro Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

Elise Holtzman left Big Law to raise her children, without a clear roadmap for what came next. Now she’s a leadership coach and founder of The Lawyer’s Edge, helping lawyers build confidence, develop business skills, and grow professionally. In this episode, Elise shares the mindset shifts that led her from practicing law to coaching those still in the field. LAWYER SIDE HUSTLES What began as a curiosity became a calling. Elise explored executive coaching and soon realized she could use her background in law to serve other lawyers. That side interest eventually became The Lawyer’s Edge, which she now runs full-time, offering coaching programs, firm-wide trainings, and a popular podcast. “I didn’t set out to start a business. I set out to help people,” Elise Holtzman shares in Episode 210 of You Are a Lawyer.Elise’s story shows how side projects can evolve into full-fledged careers. By paying attention to what energized her, and what drained her, she built a business that supports both her clients and her life. She encourages other lawyers to give themselves permission to try something new, even if it starts small. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

Lamia Rahman is a Forbes 30 Under 30 honoree, TEDx speaker, and co-founder of SEEKR, a tech startup creating wearable AI devices for the blind. In this inspiring episode, Lamia shares her journey from law school in Hong Kong to the front lines of legal tech, accessibility, and advocacy. LAWYER SIDE HUSTLES SEEKR began as a passion project and has since grown into a globally recognized AI startup. The company develops wearable devices that help blind and visually impaired users navigate the world more independently. Lamia co-founded SEEKR during her law degree, blending her passion for tech with her desire to serve. “It was a small idea at first. Now we’re building something that’s used across countries. That’s wild,” Lamia Rahman shares in Episode 209 of You Are a LawyerMore than a “side hustle,” SEEKR is a mission-driven business, fueled by Lamia’s belief that tech should be inclusive and empathetic. In the episode, she shares what it’s like to build a team, pitch to investors, and develop AI that solves real-world problems, all while still figuring out what comes next in her legal career. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

Daniel Rosenberg is a former prosecutor and defense attorney turned novelist who’s turning real-life courtroom experience into gripping legal thrillers. In this episode, he shares how his background in acting and law helped him build a successful writing career, why COVID was the creative catalyst he needed, and how his novels teach readers about the legal system, without getting lost in legalese. LAWYER SIDE HUSTLES Daniel’s side hustle as an author didn’t just stem from a love of books—it came from lived experience. Drawing from real cases he prosecuted and defended, he built compelling plots that read like fiction but are grounded in courtroom realism. He even test-ran his early manuscripts with a jury of trusted friends and lawyers for feedback. “Write what you know… because I can spot right away someone who’s never been in a courtroom,” Daniel Rosenberg shares in Episode 208 of You Are a LawyerHe also manages his own publishing relationships and book marketing, blending legal savvy with entrepreneurial spirit. From book signings to readings to podcast interviews, Daniel shows that you can take a legal career and build something entirely new, without leaving your skills behind. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

Candace Spencer is a legal consultant, mediator, and food justice advocate based in Washington, D.C. With a unique blend of legal insight and a lifelong passion for food, Candace has built a career at the intersection of environmental mediation, sustainable agriculture, and racial equity. In this episode, she shares how she’s using her legal background to support Black farmers, empower dairy-free living, and reshape the food system from the inside out. LAWYER SIDE HUSTLES Candace’s side hustles are anything but side projects; they’re deeply aligned with her mission. Her YouTube series SSpilled Milk educates and uplifts the dairy-free community with humour and heart. She also creates downloadable legal guides for small food entrepreneurs, helping people start businesses with confidence. “It means so much to me when my friends include me with dairy-free options. That’s what Spilled Milk is about—making that kind of support easier for everyone,” shares Candace Spencer in Episode 37 of You Are a Lawyer. Whether she’s consulting on food policy or baking allergen-friendly desserts, Candace is creating systems of care. Her legal and creative ventures work in harmony, bringing clarity, inclusivity, and joy to underserved communities. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

A.X. Foster is a former prosecutor and defense attorney turned novelist who’s turning real-life courtroom experience into gripping legal thrillers. In this episode, he shares how his background in acting and law helped him build a successful writing career, why COVID was the creative catalyst he needed, and how his novels teach readers about the legal system, without getting lost in legalese. LAWYER SIDE HUSTLES A.X.’s side hustle as an author didn’t just stem from a love of books—it came from lived experience. Drawing from real cases he prosecuted and defended, he built compelling plots that read like fiction but are grounded in courtroom realism. He even test-ran his early manuscripts with a jury of trusted friends and lawyers for feedback. “Write what you know… because I can spot right away someone who’s never been in a courtroom,” A.X. Foster shares in Episode 206 of You Are a Lawyer. He also manages his own publishing relationships and book marketing, blending legal savvy with entrepreneurial spirit. From book signings to readings to podcast interviews, A.X. shows that you can take a legal career and build something entirely new, without leaving your skills behind. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

Gary Martoccio is an employment lawyer and solo practitioner who left a large firm after 12 years to build his own plaintiffs-side practice. In this episode, Gary shares what it’s like to advocate for employees, run your own firm, and earn multiple state licenses through bar exams and reciprocity. If you’re curious about employment law or considering going solo, this episode gives a real-world perspective you won’t find in law school. WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH A LAW DEGREE Gary’s journey shows how a law degree can provide both structure and flexibility. Even if your first idea doesn’t stick (or your clients don’t make it to the big leagues), your training equips you with skills to succeed in high-stakes environments. “Don’t just limit yourself to traditional practice… it truly sets you up for so many different avenues," shared Gary Martoccio on Episode 205 of You Are a Lawyer. Today, Gary practices employment law across multiple states thanks to a smart mix of bar exams and reciprocity. He reminds lawyers and law students that options expand when you take strategic risks early on and the earlier you pivot toward work that feels aligned, the better. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

Nick Troxel is a lawyer, entrepreneur, and co-founder of Troxel Fitch, LLC, a business-focused law firm in Denver. In this episode, he shares how he went from driving Lyft after law school to building a thriving firm with his law school roommate. If you've ever dreamed of starting your own legal business, or wondered if it's worth the ris, this conversation is for you. LAWYER SIDE HUSTLES Nick didn’t have a side hustle in the traditional sense—his firm was the hustle. He and his partner built it in real time, taking every contract and client they could, learning by doing, and stretching every dollar. The early months were full of late nights, part-time jobs, and small wins that added up to something bigger. Over time, that side hustle became a full-fledged, thriving firm. “I didn’t do this to be super rich or anything. I mean, I want freedom. And that’s ultimately what entrepreneurship can give you,” shares Nick Troxel in Episode 76 of You Are a Lawyer. In addition to running his practice, Nick also co-authored How to Be a Lawyer, a book that aims to demystify the transition from law school to practice. His passion for helping new lawyers build sustainable careers has become a core part of his identity. He proves that a non-traditional career doesn’t mean a lesser one. It often means a more fulfilling one, especially when it’s built with intention and courage. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

Rhonda Coleman Wandel is a commercial attorney, podcast host, and founder of RCW Strategies LLC, a legal consulting firm serving visionary companies and legal teams. In this episode, she shares her bold transition from education to law, her path through in-house legal roles, and why she recently stepped into entrepreneurship after years at companies like Accenture and Google. From Memphis to Chicago, single motherhood to legal leadership, Rhonda’s story is about clarity, courage, and walking your own path. LAWYER SIDE HUSTLES Rhonda is the host of the Rhonda Coleman Wandel Podcast, a platform she created to amplify women's career stories and celebrate nontraditional professional journeys. The podcast was born from her own pivot into law and a desire to show women that they can chart their own course—regardless of what the status quo says. “I wanted to create a space for women to come and talk about their unique career paths... and validate for other women like, look, you can walk your own path,” Rhonda Coleman Wandel shares in Episode 203 of You Are a Lawyer. Through her show, Rhonda has interviewed remarkable women who’ve reinvented themselves, pivoted industries, and built lives of purpose and alignment. The podcast, like her legal career, is about service, voice, and visibility. It’s also an extension of her belief that success doesn’t look one way—and that storytelling can help us find freedom in our professional lives. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

Keith Shannon is a former lawyer, legal educator, and lifelong theater fan. Kara Shannon is his daughter and creative collaborator. In this episode, Kyla speaks with the father-daughter duo about their journey from legal careers and musical soundtracks to launching Fourth Row Center, a podcast celebrating Broadway and family bonds. Their story is a heartfelt reminder that success can look like connection, creativity, and choosing joy on your own terms. LAWYER SIDE HUSTLES Launching a podcast wasn’t just a fun hobby for Keith and Kara, it was a way to stay connected, be creative, and invite others into their world of Broadway fandom. What started as casual chats about shows turned into Fourth Row Center, a podcast that’s part review, part family banter, and part love letter to the stage. “We started the podcast and love it together, so why not? And it gives us an excuse to chat a little bit,” Kara Shannon shares in Episode 202 of You Are a Lawyer.This father-daughter side hustle is a reminder that legal professionals can (and should) pursue joy. Whether you're behind a mic or in the audience, there's power in showing up fully—as a parent, partner, or creative collaborator. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

Aman Costigan was once a partner at a Canadian law firm, teaching yoga on the side and quietly craving more freedom and alignment in her life. In this powerful conversation, she shares how she found her voice, launched Beyond Yoga for Lawyers, and began to merge wellness with law in a meaningful way. The episode captures a moment in time when Aman was redefining what a legal career could look like — and today, her journey continues beyond the courtroom Lawyer Side Hustles Beyond Yoga for Lawyers began as a side project. Aman felt a pull to share what she had learned through yoga and mindfulness, especially with other lawyers who were struggling with burnout and disconnection. She started teaching classes, offering workshops, and building a community. “I didn’t see anyone else doing it in the way I wanted to. So I just did it,” expresses Aman Costigan in Episode 105 of You Are a Lawyer. Over time, that side hustle grew into a brand and a business. Today, she offers coaching, yoga, and wellness content specifically designed for lawyers who want more than just billable hours and burnout. It’s a testament to what’s possible when you start small, stay consistent, and let your vision evolve. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

Austin Brittenham is a first-generation lawyer, legal tech founder, and the creator of 2nd Chair, an AI-powered tool designed to help solo and small firm lawyers work faster and smarter. In this episode, Austin and Kyla talk about space law, law school culture, and what it really means to use your legal education creatively. From debating in high school to launching two startups, Austin proves that you don’t have to follow the traditional legal path to make a meaningful impact. Lawyer Side Hustles Austin’s side hustle is now his full-time gig. He founded 2nd Chair while still in law school and used his background in AI and education startups to build something lawyers actually need. The tool creates litigation timelines, drafts legal materials, and helps lawyers save time and serve more clients. But it’s not just about software, it’s about increasing access to justice and making legal practice more sustainable. “We can distribute more justice, we can serve more people—or just have more vacation,” expresses Austin Brittenham in Episode 200 of You Are a Lawyer.Austin’s story reminds us that entrepreneurship doesn’t have to mean abandoning the law. It can mean expanding it, reimagining it, and making it more human. 2nd Chair exists because Austin saw a gap in the system and took the risk to build something better. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

Dr. Rhonda Glover Reese is a certified career and leadership coach with 34 years of FBI experience under her belt. From counterintelligence to white collar crime, her federal career was vast and dynamic. In this powerful episode, Dr. Rhonda shares how her dream of working for the FBI led to a fulfilling career in public service and how her new chapter as a coach helps others step into their purpose with confidence. Side Hustles Dr. Rhonda’s “side hustle” is far from traditional. After retiring from the FBI, she launched a coaching business to help others find fulfillment in their careers. Her passion lies in career and leadership development, especially for those in law enforcement. She also offers training, speaks at events, and creates space for honest conversations about burnout, purpose, and growth. “I'm great at mentoring and coaching, particularly in that law enforcement space. I'm good. I'm great,” expresses Dr. Rhonda Glover Reese in Episode 199 of You Are a Lawyer.Her journey from federal agent to entrepreneur was not accidental. It was built on prayer, reflection, and a growing awareness that people were turning to her for guidance. Today, she is intentional about the size and structure of her business to maintain the life she wants; one that includes faith, flexibility, and continued service LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

Bill Mitchell is a veteran litigator, negotiation strategist, and the author of The Disruptive Lawyer’s Little Black Book of Litigation Management. With three decades of experience, Bill has a bold message for lawyers: less litigation, more resolution. In this episode, he shares how he became a top 1% dealmaker by helping clients resolve cases faster and cheaper, without sacrificing strategy or results. Lawyer Side Hustles Bill’s side hustle? Changing how lawyers think. He authored The Disruptive Lawyer’s Little Black Book of Litigation Management and teaches a course called “Masters in Negotiation” for attorneys, claims professionals, and in-house counsel. His mission is to equip lawyers with the tools they didn’t learn in law school, including how to close cases with confidence and clarity. “I do an eight-part series on negotiation. If 92% of all cases settle, you need really good negotiators,” expresses Bill Mitchell in Episode 94 of You Are a Lawyer.His upcoming book, The Disruptive Lawyer’s Little Black Book of Negotiation, builds on that mission. Whether training junior associates or consulting with Fortune 500 legal departments, Bill is helping shift the mindset from litigation to resolution. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

Margeaux Thomas is a litigator and founder of The Thomas Law Office, P.C., a firm that focuses on "business divorces" – complex breakups between business partners. In this episode, Margeaux shares her journey from Ohio to the DMV, what drew her to commercial litigation, and how she built a thriving law firm dedicated to helping small businesses through conflict. She also talks about growing up around quiet entrepreneurship and why personality type plays a big role in choosing your legal niche. Lawyer Side Hustles While Margeaux’s legal practice is her main business, she also maintains a vibrant presence on LinkedIn and integrates her personal interests, especially swimming, into her professional brand. By sharing her swim journey, personal milestones, and non-legal reflections, she’s built an engaged audience that connects with her on multiple levels. This has become a powerful tool for business development. “I also post a lot about things that aren’t legal… People follow that and I go places and people talk about it, which is kind of cool,” expresses Margeaux Thomas in Episode 197 of You Are a Lawyer.Her “side hustle” isn’t a separate business, but rather a lifestyle of authentic marketing and personal storytelling that enhances her professional success. Her experience demonstrates how being relatable and real online can complement a highly focused and serious legal career. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

Lem Garcia is a personal injury attorney and the founder of Lem Garcia Law in California. In this episode, Lem shares how he went from answering Craigslist job ads to running a 20-person law firm. With humility, insight, and honesty, Lem walks us through what it takes to start a firm from nothing and why self-belief and strategic thinking are key to long-term success. Lawyer Side Hustles Unlike some guests with side hustles unrelated to law, Lem’s passion project is his firm itself. He sees law firm ownership as both a business and a creative pursuit. From writing SOPs to mentoring team members, Lem puts intention into every piece of the business. “If you explain the why behind what you're doing... they can apply that later on and be more confident in what they do,” expresses Lem Garcia in Episode 196 of You Are a Lawyer.Through firm leadership, Lem uses his law degree to create opportunity for others. He mentors staff, builds scalable systems, and remains deeply involved in both the legal and operational sides of his firm. His side hustle isn’t separate from his practice; it is the practice. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

Sarah Cottrell, founder of the Former Lawyer Podcast, discusses the challenges and identity struggles that lawyers often face, the misconceptions surrounding the legal profession, and the importance of exploring alternative career paths. Sarah shares her journey from practicing law to becoming an entrepreneur and offers valuable insights for lawyers seeking fulfillment outside traditional legal practice. Tune in to gain insights into the nuances of being a lawyer and the importance of setting boundaries. Lawyer Side Hustles Sarah is the founder of the Former Lawyer Podcast, a platform dedicated to helping lawyers who are unhappy in their careers explore alternative paths and find fulfillment outside of the legal profession. Through her podcast, Sarah interviews former lawyers who have successfully transitioned into different careers, providing listeners with real-life examples and inspiration. She also offers coaching programs, such as the Former Lawyer Collaborative, where lawyers can join a community, access a curriculum, and receive guidance on navigating career transitions. "I create things that I wish I had when I was in a place that was not good," explains Sarah Cottrell in Episode 117 of You Are a Lawyer.Sarah's mission is to break the stigma around leaving the legal profession and to empower lawyers to pursue work that aligns with their values and passions. She has practiced law for ten years and understands the challenges and pressures that lawyers face. Sarah's approach is rooted in empathy and understanding, as she helps lawyers navigate the process of self-discovery and find clarity in their career paths. Through her podcast and coaching programs, Sarah provides a supportive and informative space for lawyers to explore their options and make meaningful career changes. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

Vernon Thomas is a military attorney, community servant, and judicial candidate for the 19th Judicial District Court in Baton Rouge. In this heartfelt conversation, Vernon and Kyla reflect on his legal journey—from public defender and prosecutor to staff attorney and JAG officer—and how each role shaped his approach to justice. With lessons from his father, mentorship from respected judges, and deep Southern roots, Vernon is driven by more than ambition—he’s driven by service. LAWYER SIDE HUSTLES Vernon’s not one to chase flashy side hustles—his hustle is service. In addition to his military service and legal practice, he helps run the Cutting Edge Music Business Conference, a long-running event originally founded by his father and godfather. The conference helps attorneys gain education in television, film, and music law, especially as digital media transforms the industry. Vernon contributes by advising on ethical issues and supporting work-for-hire contracts for local creatives. “It was originally designed to kind of be similar to South by Southwest, where lawyers can come and get education in the television, film, and music industry,” expresses Vernon Thomas in Episode 194 of You Are a Lawyer.Through this work, Vernon supports artists and advocates for fair contracts and informed decision-making. It’s a creative outlet that intersects naturally with his legal career—and a meaningful way to stay rooted in his family legacy while helping others grow. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

Steven Cunningham is a lawyer-turned-entrepreneur and the founder of Simple Academy, a company that helps teams boost performance and productivity using AI tools. In this episode, Steven talks about what it means to pivot early, lean into innovation, and reimagine what legal training can prepare you to do. Whether you're AI-curious or career-curious, Steven Cunningham’s story offers both inspiration and practical insights. LAWYER SIDE HUSTLES Steven’s “side hustle” evolved into a full-time business: Simple Academy. It began when he was running a book-summary service and saw the writing on the wall—AI could (and would) make his existing business obsolete. Rather than panic, Steven leaned in. He became an early adopter of AI tools, studying how they worked and where they could add value. Soon, he was helping other business owners understand how to use AI to improve performance. “It became an interest. I love what we’re doing. It fulfills every self-actualization need that I have… but it wasn’t why we started it,” expresses Steven Cunningham in Episode 193 of You Are a Lawyer.Simple Academy now helps teams reimagine their workflows using AI. From executive coaching to custom prompt design, Steven and his team teach organizations how to think differently about time, value, and output. His legal background—especially his ability to communicate clearly and break down complex tools—makes him an ideal teacher in this fast-changing space. For Steven, the hustle isn’t just a business. It’s a creative outlet, a problem-solving lab, and a way to show that legal skills can drive innovation, not just interpretation. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com

Samora Legros is an advisory manager, advocate, and board member of the Max & Thérèse Cadet Dental Fund, Inc. In this powerful episode, Samora and fellow board members share how a family legacy has grown into a 33-year commitment to improving oral healthcare in Haiti. From mobile dental clinics and maxillofacial surgeries to supporting the next generation of Haitian dentists, this is a story of service, strategy, and impact. You don’t have to be a dentist to support public health—you just have to care. How You Can Help The Max & Thérèse Cadet Dental Fund, Inc. is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization based in the U.S. that raises funds to directly support operations at the dental clinic in Haiti. These funds pay for essential procedures, dental supplies, equipment upgrades, and full maxillofacial surgeries for those who could not otherwise afford care. Contributions of any amount make an impact, and monthly giving provides consistent support for this vital work. “We are small, but boy, we carry the mountains of Haiti,” expresses Jessie Cadet-Legros in Episode 192 of You Are a Lawyer.Lawyers and legal professionals can support the Cadet Dental Fund in unique ways: through strategic networking, pro bono consulting, fundraising, and amplifying the foundation’s story. Whether by contributing financially or helping to widen the circle of support, advocates of all backgrounds—and especially those with legal skills—can play a key role in sustaining the clinic’s mission. Visit cadetdentalfund.com to get involved. LISTEN TO LEARN WE ALSO DISCUSS Join the FREE mailing list! Get behind-the-scenes content from You Are A Lawyer. 1) Visit www.youarealawyer.com 2) Add your email address to the Subscribe pop-up box OR 3) Enter your email address on the right side of the screen 4) Get emails from me (I won't fill your inbox with junk)! Interact with You Are A Lawyer Kyla Denanyoh hosts the You Are A Lawyer podcast. Follow the podcast: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@youarealawyer Website: https://www.youarealawyer.com