Sibling Rivalry

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob and Monét catch up on morning routines, city life, and the best ways to start your day. Bob gives another update on his Russian neighbors and his building, while Monét shares how she gets around in NYC. They compare biking and walking habits from the pandemic, debate which city has the most bridges—Portland, Pittsburgh, or New York. Monét gives advice for dealing with difficult coworkers, they discuss meditation, food prep, and whether Bob could handle Keto. Plus, morning playlists, bed-rotting days off, and Monét suggests another Anything You Can Do challenge. Home Chef is offering my listeners 50% off and free shipping for your first box PLUS free dessert for life! Go to ⁠https://HomeChef.com/RIVALRY⁠. Want to see exclusive Sibling Rivalry Bonus Content? Head over to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/siblingrivalrypodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to be the first to see our latest Sibling Rivalry Podcast Videos! @BobTheDragQueen @MonetXChange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob and Monét wife-swap with No Gorge for a crossover episode — No Rivalry with Gottmik. Bob asks what it’s really like working with Violet Chachki and how Mik handles fan backlash for critiquing Drag Race queens. They break down the wildest Gottmik rumors, talk new music, and The Knockout Tour with Violet. Bob recalls bringing queens on stage during the Madonna tour, tests his color blindness, and apologizes for the music video they did together. Plus, they compare fashion hits and misses, Madonna’s confusion over Mik’s makeup, and ask which queen is the biggest Gaga fan. Home Chef is offering my listeners 50% off and free shipping for your first box PLUS free dessert for life! Go to https://HomeChef.com/RIVALRY. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob talks about his suspicious Russian neighbors while he and Monét disagree over their recent hangout plans. Monét shares how Spanish class has reignited her love of school, her goals with learning the language, and how pronoun use differs across Spanish-speaking countries. They explore shifts in pronoun conversations, the rejection of “Latinx,” and whether being Black connects to identifying with African American heritage, including Raven-Symoné’s perspective. Then, they get into the kinds of cringe content Bob likes, the kind they make themselves, and what types cross the line. They debate whether posting a baptism is cringe, look back at early social media days, and talk about God Warrior’s transformation. Plus, Bob reviews Mo’Nique’s Las Vegas show and reiterates his distaste for mustard. Want to see exclusive Sibling Rivalry Bonus Content? Head over to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/siblingrivalrypodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to be the first to see our latest Sibling Rivalry Podcast Videos! @BobTheDragQueen @MonetXChange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob shares his new bouldering hobby while Monét explains how she keeps her hands soft and callus-free. They compare their experiences bouldering, debate names that would be nice if they didn’t already mean something else, and role play what they’d do if a friend tragically couldn’t make it to a concert. They get into K-pop demon hunters, the Céline Dion-inspired movie, and the most played songs on YouTube. They ask if telekinesis is real and whether people can really move things with their minds, share their thoughts on reincarnation, explain stardust and the Big Bang. Bob puts it to the test by showing off his fork-bending “magic. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob and Monét talk about nepo babies in drag, Hollywood, and beyond. They debate whether Florence Foster Jenkins was truly an operatic icon, ask if there are drag nepo babies, and wonder if Loretta Devine qualifies as an honorary Ru Girl—and who has the power to bestow that title. Can nepo babies ever really escape their family legacies? Bob shares his experience working with a hard-working one on Madonna’s tour. He also explains why he wouldn’t send his kids to art school, while he and Monét roleplay asking parents to fund an arts education and break down what elements really shape an artist’s path to success. Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/rivalry/ #rulapod Open an account in 2 minutes at https://Chime.com/RIVALRY. Chime. Feels like progress. Want to see exclusive Sibling Rivalry Bonus Content? Head over to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/siblingrivalrypodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to be the first to see our latest Sibling Rivalry Podcast Videos! @BobTheDragQueen @MonetXChange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob breaks down musical theater vs. opera ticket sales, explains the plot of Ragtime, and debates whether Mamma Mia! and Cats are more iconic than Beetlejuice. Then, they get into OnlyFans. They ask if they’d ever pay for adult content, what visuals they actually respond to, and review Drag Race queens’ OnlyFans accounts to decide if they’re worth it. Monét reveals the circumstances that might push her to start one herself, they compare how many creators they follow, and ask: what are the signs that an OnlyFans is worth subscribing to? Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/rivalry/ #rulapod Open an account in 2 minutes at https://Chime.com/RIVALRY. Chime. Feels like progress. Want to see exclusive Sibling Rivalry Bonus Content? Head over to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/siblingrivalrypodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to be the first to see our latest Sibling Rivalry Podcast Videos! @BobTheDragQueen @MonetXChange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob and Monét practice their Spanish, revisit memories of Brazil, and share what excites them most when exploring new places. Monét clears up rumors about being high on the podcast, while they swap experiences with vaccines and whether you should go to work when you’re already sick. They test their knowledge of sports lingo, consider joining a volleyball league, and try to figure out pickleball vs. tennis. They also debate comedy club food, committing to the gym, and whether it’s okay to put your phone on Do Not Disturb at night. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Monét is again confronted about her messy website links before Bob and Monét start DARVO-ing each other. They rehash their foot race drama, debate shoe sizes, and test their Spanish comprehension while asking if speaking louder actually helps when someone doesn’t understand. They discuss who really came up with the idea for the podcast, and Bob calls out the tipping point of Monét’s lies—including the revelation of who she almost started a podcast with instead of him. They also ask if Monét is intimidated by Bob’s singing, and then Monét (and Jacob) spoil an old show Bob just started watching. Want to see exclusive Sibling Rivalry Bonus Content? Head over to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/siblingrivalrypodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to be the first to see our latest Sibling Rivalry Podcast Videos! @BobTheDragQueen @MonetXChange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob and Monét go live at 3 Dollar Bill in Brooklyn for The Family Reunion. They debate Idina Menzel’s career, Let it Go vs. Into the Unknown, share sibling stories from fights to being the favorite child, and ask if they’d want their kids to have siblings. They name their Drag Race and non-Drag Race “sisters,” play Name That White Woman, and wonder if Nicole Kidman knows who Bob is. Plus, twin hookups, Housewives fights, gooning, and Monét putting Bob’s sensitive feet on the line. Want to see exclusive Sibling Rivalry Bonus Content? Head over to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/siblingrivalrypodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to be the first to see our latest Sibling Rivalry Podcast Videos! @BobTheDragQueen @MonetXChange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob and Monét do the promised shirtless episode. Bob accuses Monét of gaslighting and lying, while Monét wonders if she should trust an Australian biologist about kangaroos. They debate whether polyamory is Bob’s whole personality, break down the elements of each other’s character, and ask if Bob has ever done anything truly notable for Monét. They also compare cringe vs. corny, discuss whether fear of being cringe keeps young people from trying new things, and question if aging itself makes you cringe. Plus, Monét’s website updates, Jacob’s mom calling her out, and a conversation about colorism. Want to see exclusive Sibling Rivalry Bonus Content? Head over to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/siblingrivalrypodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to be the first to see our latest Sibling Rivalry Podcast Videos! @BobTheDragQueen @MonetXChange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob and Monét compare the best concerts they’ve seen this summer, debate SZA vs. Nicki, and weigh in on Jada Essence Hall serving her Cowboy Carter look. They ask if recording someone for “receipts” without consent is okay and discuss how Dapper Dan changed fashion. They ask what exactly counts as a fairy tale, if Disney movies qualify, and whether The Lion King fits the bill. Bob and Monét share if they had bedtime stories growing up, the age Monét started reading, and Bob’s earliest memory. Plus, stolen-pillow drama, remembering family and friends’ birthdays, and why Monét still doesn’t get Bob’s style. Want to see exclusive Sibling Rivalry Bonus Content? Head over to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/siblingrivalrypodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to be the first to see our latest Sibling Rivalry Podcast Videos! @BobTheDragQueen @MonetXChange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob and Monét dig into the many meanings of cheating. They swap wig stories from TikTok melting techniques to the struggle of finding lace that matches skin tone, and debate whether larger heads make wigs harder to fit. Bob defines the rules of his relationships, while Monét shares hers with Andy and reveals whether she’s ever cheated in her relationships. They talk about game night scandals, drinking games (without alcohol), and cheating on tests in school. Plus, flat tummy tea side effects, lip balm habits, and whether Monét really was Bob’s caregiver after dental surgery—or was she cheating at that? Want to see exclusive Sibling Rivalry Bonus Content? Head over to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/siblingrivalrypodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to be the first to see our latest Sibling Rivalry Podcast Videos! @BobTheDragQueen @MonetXChange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob and Monét dive into customer service chaos, from Monét’s artwork pickup gone wrong to Bob’s wild Uber ride. They swap Uber ratings, get an update on Monét’s “AirbnBeef,” and get into the long text Bob got from a videographer. They wonder what was so special about No. 2 pencils, where Monét’s freckles land on the pain scale, and what she just realized about Beyoncé’s eyes. Plus: cosmetic surgery, rare blood types, and whether Bob will let Monét shine. Thanks to our sponsors: Go to ⁠https://MASAChips.com/SIBLING⁠ and use code SIBLING for 25% off your first order! Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at ⁠https://www.rula.com/rivalry⁠ #rulapod Get started with Chime today at ⁠https://chime.com/SIBLING⁠ Go to ⁠https://HomeChef.com/RIVALRY⁠ for 50% off your first box and free dessert for life! Want to see exclusive Sibling Rivalry Bonus Content? Head over to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/siblingrivalrypodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to be the first to see our latest Sibling Rivalry Podcast Videos! @BobTheDragQueen @MonetXChange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob and Monét talk all about acting, share audition stories, dream roles, and discuss how Broadway auditions differ from opera. Bob talks about his best acting performance and wonders if he should take singing lessons. Monét addresses why she didn’t ask Bob for help on Life Be Lifin'. Plus: does Hillary Clinton really carry hot sauce in her bag, they argue about pronunciation, whether Monét's yard has bugs in it, and which celebrities they wish were gay. Thanks to our sponsors: Go to https://MASAChips.com/SIBLING and use code SIBLING for 25% off your first order! Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/rivalry #rulapod Get started with Chime today at https://chime.com/SIBLING Go to https://HomeChef.com/RIVALRY for 50% off your first box and free dessert for life! Want to see exclusive Sibling Rivalry Bonus Content? Head over to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/siblingrivalrypodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to be the first to see our latest Sibling Rivalry Podcast Videos! @BobTheDragQueen @MonetXChange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob and Monét cover everything from wigs to crime sprees. Bob challenges Monét to a wig-length showdown, they debate where measurements should start, and reveal their real shoe sizes. They imagine how they’d plot as serial killers in Los Angeles before swapping hookup stories—including Bob’s scavenger hunt–style hookup adventure. They discuss how to respond to crying without being inappropriate and recall moments when they were mad enough to need to be held back. They confess who leaves hotel rooms messier and ask if Black and brown neighborhoods are really louder. Plus: New York geography confusion, their favorite NYC drag shows, and an old argument that gets Bob heated all over again. Thanks to our sponsors: Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at ⁠https://www.rula.com/rivalry⁠ #rulapod Download the free Rakuten App or go to ⁠https://Rakuten.com⁠ to start saving today. Go to ⁠https://HomeChef.com/RIVALRY⁠ for 50% OFF your first box and free dessert for life! Click this link ⁠https://bit.ly/45eFzaV⁠ to start your free trial with Wix Make everyday purchases count with Chime’s Secured Credit Builder Visa® Credit Card at ⁠https://chime.com/SIBLING⁠. Want to see exclusive Sibling Rivalry Bonus Content? Head over to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/siblingrivalrypodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to be the first to see our latest Sibling Rivalry Podcast Videos! @BobTheDragQueen @MonetXChange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob and Monét get into the world of influencers, social media, and how they’d fit in if the game had started earlier. Bob reflects on his stint in children’s theater and recalls documenting everything with his camcorder. Monét talks about her pre-social media days as a singer and how shifting workday hours might change productivity. They compare LA and New York influencers, debate whether Bob is one, and ask why he isn’t making more money from TikTok. They examine the difference between Black and African American identity and debate who treats fans better at meet and greets. Plus: pop fandoms, Survivor, alliteration in geography, jewelry eras, and whether singers or dancers are cringier online. Thanks to our sponsors: Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/rivalry #rulapod Download the free Rakuten App or go to https://Rakuten.com to start saving today. Go to https://HomeChef.com/RIVALRY for 50% OFF your first box and free dessert for life! Click this link https://bit.ly/45eFzaV to start your free trial with Wix Make everyday purchases count with Chime’s Secured Credit Builder Visa® Credit Card at https://chime.com/SIBLING. Want to see exclusive Sibling Rivalry Bonus Content? Head over to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/siblingrivalrypodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to be the first to see our latest Sibling Rivalry Podcast Videos! @BobTheDragQueen @MonetXChange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Trigger warning: This episode contains discussion of disordered eating around the 45 - 55 minute mark. Viewer discretion advised. This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob and Monét share their bucket list dreams, from travel destinations to career goals. Bob raves about seeing Death Becomes Her on stage, spills on being invited to a Lady Gaga show in San Francisco, and names the most annoying pop fans. They talk Broadway ambitions, thrill seekers, and the juicing era, while debating if Madonna was born in New York City. Bob reveals his love for hotels over travel, breaks down his “three types of cities” theory, and asks for Monét’s take on his Phantom of the Opera performance. Plus, they swap stories about celebrities from their neighborhoods and wonder—does Monét have a Prince Albert fetish? Thanks to our sponsors: Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to ⁠https://Zocdoc.com/RIVALRY⁠ to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. Get 35% off your entire order at ⁠https://Lolablankets.com⁠ by using code RIVALRY at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets. Slay your summer look. Go to ⁠https://paireyewear.com/SIBLING15⁠ for 15% off your first pair! Go to ⁠https://brooklynbedding.com⁠ and use promo code RIVALRY to get 30% off site wide! Want to see exclusive Sibling Rivalry Bonus Content? Head over to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/siblingrivalrypodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to be the first to see our latest Sibling Rivalry Podcast Videos! @BobTheDragQueen @MonetXChange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob and Monét break down fake compliments and the things people say when you do something outside the norm. Bob shares the compliments he will and will not accept, they reveal what they did to get their mothers to slap them when they were younger, and they discuss the age gap limits for sibling fights. They talk about collecting fads, why people are going wild for Labubus, where Bob got his first one, and role-play to see what Monét would do if a fan brought one for her. Plus, is Monét a hater, who is better at meet and greets, and who has had more public beef? Thanks to our sponsors: Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to https://Zocdoc.com/RIVALRY to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. Get 35% off your entire order at https://Lolablankets.com by using code RIVALRY at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets. Slay your summer look. Go to https://paireyewear.com/SIBLING15 for 15% off your first pair! Go to https://brooklynbedding.com and use promo code RIVALRY to get 30% off site wide! Want to see exclusive Sibling Rivalry Bonus Content? Head over to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/siblingrivalrypodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to be the first to see our latest Sibling Rivalry Podcast Videos! @BobTheDragQueen @MonetXChange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob and Monét ask the big question—what makes an icon? They debate whether they themselves are icons, which Drag Race queens qualify, and what makes a pop star truly iconic. Is it awards? Longevity? Star power? They explore the origins of the term EGOT, which Nobel Prize Bob is most likely to win, and whether awards are essential for icon status. They build their own metric for becoming an icon and test their knowledge of international Drag Race queens. Plus, did we meet Cynthia Erivo as a singer or an actor first and should the Grammys have a Queer or Nonbinary category? Thanks to our sponsors: Download the free Rakuten App or go to ⁠https://Rakuten.com⁠ to start saving today. Go to ⁠https://HomeChef.com/RIVALRY⁠ for 50% off your first box and free dessert! Go to ⁠https://paireyewear.com/SIBLING15 ⁠for 15% off your first pair. Want to see exclusive Sibling Rivalry Bonus Content? Head over to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/siblingrivalrypodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to be the first to see our latest Sibling Rivalry Podcast Videos! @BobTheDragQueen @MonetXChange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on Sibling Rivalry, Bob and Monét dive into geography, pronunciation quirks, and what exactly counts as the earlobe. They debate whether Wendy Williams is a true New Yorker and whether it is possible to forget working with someone before they became famous. Bob and Monét talk about their longest flights, do a geography challenge, and question how maps work. How big is Greenland really? Plus, St. Lucian swamps, high school math flashbacks, the quadratic equation, and whether Bob is really wearing Jacob’s grandmother’s earring. Thanks to our sponsors: Download the free Rakuten App or go to https://Rakuten.com to start saving today. Go to https://HomeChef.com/RIVALRY for 50% off your first box and free dessert! Go to https://paireyewear.com/SIBLING15 for 15% off your first pair. Want to see exclusive Sibling Rivalry Bonus Content? Head over to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/siblingrivalrypodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to be the first to see our latest Sibling Rivalry Podcast Videos! @BobTheDragQueen @MonetXChange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices