Brush & Banter | A Zibra Podcast

Creators spend years trying to define “their style,” but what if it’s already there, just not fully formed yet? This minisode pulls together honest moments from Cyn, Alyssa Vilardi, and Lauren Hull with Olga Muzician, tracing the real path of finding your style: evolving through client work, pushing through the “ugly phase,” and slowly recognizing the patterns that make your work yours. It’s less about discovering something new and more about noticing what’s been building all along, and having the confidence to follow it. In this episode, you’ll hear: Hit rewind on these episodes: Landing Paid Art Projects with Major Brands & Finding Your Creative Voice with Cyn of Chalk & BrushTurning DIY, Motherhood, and Mess Into a Creative Business with Alyssa Vilardi of The Things We BuiltThe Messy Middle of a Project... And Your Career as an Artist | Reflecting on Creative Beginnings with Olga Muzician & Lauren HullWelcome to Brush & Banter—the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio. Connect with Zibra: WebsiteInstagramTikTokFacebookYouTubeBlog

When you’re flipping furniture, the biggest shift isn’t learning how to paint – it’s learning what’s actually worth your time. This minisode pulls together real-world perspectives from Jen Talley, Lauren Hull, Olga Muzician and Courtney Weisel on how they balance creativity with demand, choose pieces that will sell, and avoid projects that quietly drain profit. From simplifying your style to setting boundaries around what you won’t take on, this is about creating with intention so your work stays both sustainable and rewarding. In this minisode, we’re rewinding the actionable and inspiring soundbites from their Brush & Banter interviews to help you turn your passion into profit. In this episode, you’ll hear: Hit rewind on these episodes: Selling on Marketplace in 2026 with Jen Talley of Perfectly Imperfect Furniture RefinishingThe Messy Middle of a Project... And Your Career as an Artist | Reflecting on Creative Beginnings with Olga Muzician & Lauren HullComing Back From a Creative Break with Courtney Weisel of Steel Birch Studios Creative finds from the episodes: Melange PaintsJEN10 Brushes mentioned (use code BANTER10 for 10% off): Artist Brush Set - SmallPalm Artist - 1” Flat PaintbrushZibra’s “Bundle & Save” SetsWelcome to Brush & Banter—the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio. Connect with Zibra: WebsiteInstagramTikTokFacebookYouTubeBlog

When you’re ready to turn your passion projects into income, it can be difficult and overwhelming to know where to start. Enter Kyle Mosher, Alli K., and Cyn Santos, working artists who have cracked the code to make more money as an artist without sacrificing your creativity. In this minisode, we’re rewinding the actionable and inspiring soundbites from their Brush & Banter interviews to help you turn your passion into profit. In this episode, you’ll hear: Hit rewind on these episodes: Booking Brand Collabs with Kyle MosherSetting Your Prices as an Artist with Alli K DesignLanding Paid Art Projects with Major Brands & Finding Your Creative Voice with Cyn of Chalk & BrushWelcome to Brush & Banter—the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio. Connect with Zibra: WebsiteInstagramTikTokFacebookYouTubeBlog

What does it actually take to build a mural business that lasts more than a decade… and still feels steady? Alli Koch shares the behind-the-scenes structure that supports her 11-year career: outsourcing before burnout hits, building a personal “board of directors,” charging for site visits, and pricing based on context instead of formulas. She talks candidly about setting boundaries even when it’s tricky - like saying “no” to free work (even for family). From being approached to publish art books to installing a 25-foot public sculpture, Alli’s story is a reminder that longevity isn’t about doing more, it’s about doing the right work, with the right boundaries, at the right pace. Alli Koch is a Texas-based muralist, author, and sculptor known for her large-scale public art and modern how-to drawing books. With 11 years in business and repeat clients booking her into 2026, she mentors artists at every stage on building sustainable, confidence-led creative careers. Connect with Alli: IGWebsiteMentoring Creative Finds: Zibra Speed Drop (Redesigned)Alli K Designs Book ShopMy Fancy Sticker Storybook by Alli K Designs In this episode, we discuss: Welcome to Brush & Banter—the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio. Connect with Zibra: WebsiteInstagramTikTokFacebookYouTubeBlog

If Instagram feels harder than it used to, you’re not imagining it. Shannon McKinstrie sits down with Lauren and Brie to break down what’s actually driving growth right now, and it’s not chasing viral spikes. It’s retention, belonging, and messaging that makes people feel seen. They talk strong hooks (and her REP formula), why talk-to-camera reels convert better than trends, how to repurpose content within weeks instead of months, and how to use Stories to build real trust (even if your life feels “boring”). If you’ve been stuck in 200-view jail or burned out trying to keep up, this conversation will help you simplify your strategy and post with more intention, and a lot less pressure. Shannon McKinstrie is a social media strategist and educator who helps creators stop guessing and start posting with clarity. She’s the founder of Reels Lab and has helped thousands of business owners build sustainable Instagram strategies that actually convert. Connect with Shannon: WebsiteReels LabPodcastInstagramTikTokLinkedInCreative Finds: Zibra Edger Series BrushIn this episode, we discuss: Welcome to Brush & Banter—the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio. Connect with Zibra: WebsiteInstagramTikTokFacebookYouTubeBlog

Furniture flipping looks dreamy from the outside: paint, pretty pieces, a tidy before-and-after, but Jen Talley pulls back the curtain on what actually makes it sustainable. This conversation sits in the quiet middle between passion and burnout: learning when to say yes, when to say no, and why boundaries are just as creative as brushstrokes. Jen shares how her business evolved from late-night hobby energy to an intentional, values-led rhythm; choosing better pieces, protecting her time, letting simplicity sell, and honoring the very human reasons this work matters. It’s grounded, honest, and deeply reassuring for anyone trying to turn “I love this” into “this actually works.” Jen Talley is a furniture artist known for her timeless, perfectly imperfect approach and a business built on intention over hustle. Her work blends classic design, thoughtful boundaries, and a deep belief that furniture, and creativity, can hold real meaning. Connect with Jen: IGFacebookYouTubeCreative Finds: Melange PaintsGolden Brush Awards 2025In this episode, we discuss: nobetterWelcome to Brush & Banter—the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio. Connect with Zibra: WebsiteInstagramTikTokFacebookYouTubeBlog

Billie Asmus was tired of plastic paint liners, half-used trays drying out overnight, and trying to save paint with foil and plastic bags, so she started messing around in her basement to see if she could make something better. That curiosity turned into a reusable paint tray, a lot of Google searches, a year of prototyping and manufacturing, and eventually a moment standing in the Shark Tank longer than expected, fighting for the right partners. In this conversation, Billie walks through what it actually looked like to build the RePaint Tray from scratch, what surprised her most about running a product-based business, and how listening to everyday painters shaped both the product and the community that grew around it. Billie Asmus is the founder of RePaint Studios and the creator of the RePaint Tray, a reusable paint tray designed to make painting less wasteful and easier to pick back up. She comes from a furniture flipping and marketing background and built the product by testing it herself and listening closely to the people using it. Connect with RePaint Studios: WebsiteIGTikTokFacebookCreative Finds: Zibra Edger Series BrushBANTER10In this episode, we discuss: Welcome to Brush & Banter—the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio. Connect with Zibra: WebsiteInstagramTikTokFacebookYouTubeBlog

Running a small business is hard. Running one with a friend can be even harder… and also incredibly rewarding. In this episode, Annie and Lauren sit down with Caroline and Tianna of Off the Walls Murals to talk about what it really looks like to build and grow a creative company together. From navigating money, pricing, and workload to handling conflict, communication, and long-term vision, this conversation pulls back the curtain on the systems, trust, and honesty required to protect both the business and the friendship. Caroline and Tianna are the co-founders of Off the Walls Murals, a community-driven mural company known for bold, thoughtful designs and large-scale transformations. Working as a creative duo, they’ve built a full-time mural business rooted in trust, aligned values, and a shared commitment to giving back. Connect with Off the Walls Murals: IGTikTokFacebookWebsiteCreative Finds: Zibra Edger Series BrushesBANTER10Sherwin-WilliamsRooted Creative ConferenceMake-A-Wish FoundationUnited WayChildren in CrisisIn this episode, we discuss: Welcome to Brush & Banter—the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio. Connect with Zibra: WebsiteInstagramTikTokFacebookYouTubeBlog

Think of this as a creative yearbook you didn’t have to sign: the three of us looking back at 2025’s biggest lessons, strangest pivots, messy moments, and unexpected joys. We unpack how Rooted reshaped our year, how podcasting shifted our sense of community, what’s changing for us as artists and business owners, and the habits we’re absolutely not dragging into 2026. Add in your “Spilled Paint” chaos, our words for the new year, and a rapid-fire Brie takeover, and you get a cozy, reflective, slightly chaotic episode that feels like a warm reset for creatives everywhere. Episodes Mentioned: The Glow-Up of a Creative Life | Style Evolution, Brand Collabs & Paid For With Art with Multidisciplinary Artist Kyle MosherLanding Paid Art Projects with Major Brands & Finding Your Creative Voice with Cyn of Chalk & BrushYear-End Creative Finds: Zibra Holiday ShopZibra Gift CardsIn this episode, we discuss: Welcome to Brush & Banter—the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio. Connect with Zibra: WebsiteInstagramTikTokFacebookYouTubeBlog

What happens when you stop trying to be the “right” kind of artist and start becoming the truest version of yourself? This week, Annie and Brie sit down with Charlotte-based multidisciplinary artist and illustrator Kyle Mosher to talk about artistic evolution, trusting the long game, and the surprising places a creative path can take you. From studying fine art in Italy to designing sneakers at Puma to building a community-powered brand, Kyle shares the pivots, risks, and revelations that shaped his signature style, and the way preparing for fatherhood is shifting everything he thought he knew about success. Kyle Mosher is a full-time artist, illustrator, and founder of Paid For With Art. Known for his collage-inspired style that blends fine art, culture, and graphic design, Kyle has collaborated with brands like Porsche, HBO, Forbes, and Dunkin’. Through his work and creative community, he champions the value of artistry and the belief that every creator deserves to get paid for what they love. Connect with Kyle: IGWebsitePaid For With ArtResources mentioned: Zibra Holiday ShopIn this episode, we discuss: Welcome to Brush & Banter—the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio. Connect with Zibra: WebsiteInstagramTikTokFacebookYouTubeBlog

What happens when “making do” turns into making magic? This week, Annie and Lauren sit down with DIY designer and content creator Alyssa Vilardi of The Things We Built to talk about transforming everyday spaces (and everyday chaos) into something beautiful, functional, and full of heart. From painting nurseries in military housing to running a thriving content business, Alyssa shares how she built a brand rooted in authenticity, family, and the courage to take imperfect action. The trio dives into all things DIY, design, motherhood, and the art of creating joy right where you are, mess and all. Alyssa Vilardi is a DIY designer, content creator, mom of three, and military spouse behind The Things We Built. She’s known for her approachable projects, honest storytelling, and knack for turning rental spaces into reflections of real life and creativity. Through her work, Alyssa proves that creativity and authenticity can make any house feel like home. Connect with Alyssa: @the_things_we_builtFacebookWebsiteCreative Finds: 2” Palm Pro Artist BrushThe Disco Day Desert HouseZibra’s Holiday ShopIn this episode, we discuss: youauthenticityWelcome to Brush & Banter—the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio. Connect with Zibra: WebsiteInstagramTikTokFacebookYouTubeBlog

What does it really mean to find your style, and your voice, as an artist? This week, Annie and Lauren sit down with muralist, lettering artist, and creative entrepreneur Cyn (“Cynno”) to talk about the messy middle of building a creative identity. All of the doubts, pivots, and dopamine hits that come with evolving your art and your business. From her early days painting chalkboards to designing murals for Starbucks, Virgin Voyages, and local Miami landmarks, Cyn shares how she found confidence in color, clarity in process, and joy in community–all while staying true to her roots (and her flamingos). Cinthia Santos is the muralist, lettering artist, and creative powerhouse behind Chalk and Brush Design Co. – the Miami studio turning blank walls into sunshine. Since 2013, she’s brought color, confidence, and community to brands and neighborhoods alike, proving that art really does change everything. Connect with Cinthia: Website@cynno@chalkandbrushResources mentioned: 2-inch Palm Pro Artist BrushIn this episode, we discuss: cruise ship.Welcome to Brush & Banter—the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio. Connect with Zibra: WebsiteInstagramTikTokFacebookYouTubeBlog

You know that part of a project where it looks like total chaos and you start questioning all your life choices? Yeah… that part. We’re going there. In this episode, muralist & lettering artist Olga Muzician and furniture flipper-turned-content creator Lauren Hull join hosts Annie and Lauren to talk about the not-so-glamorous side of creative beginnings; the flops, the freak-outs, and the surprisingly sweet moments that come from sticking it out. If you’ve ever cried mid-project, painted over something five times, or stared at your work thinking “what am I even doing?” - this one’s for you. Olga Muzician – Muralist and lettering artist behind Olga Muzician Studio, known for bold color, natural elements, and large-scale work that brings walls and spaces to life. Follow: Instagram, TikTok Lauren Hull – Creator of Furniture Flipping Teacher, where she turns everyday pieces into teaching moments and helps others build confidence (and income) through creative flipping and DIY design. Follow: Facebook, YouTube, TikTok, Instagram Zibra’s New “Bundle & Save” Sets: Zibra just launched three curated brush bundles designed for real-world creators, whether you’re refinishing furniture, cutting trim, or painting large-scale walls. Explore them at enjoyzibra.com and use code BANTER10 for 10% off. In this episode, we discuss: Welcome to Brush & Banter—the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio. Connect with Zibra: WebsiteInstagramTikTokFacebookYouTubeBlog

Life moves in seasons, and sometimes that means stepping away from the studio. In this episode, Brie and Lauren sit down with award-winning refinisher Courtney Weisel of Steel Birch Studios to talk about what it really looks like to pause, pivot, and then pick the brush back up again. Courtney Weisel is the artist behind Steel Birch Studios, known for reimagining vintage furniture into sculptural, scroll-stopping works of art. She’s a Golden Brush Award winner whose bold textures, clean lines, and fearless experimentation have inspired creatives across the refinishing community. Connect with Courtney: Steel Birch Studios on IGBrushes mentioned: Artist Brush Set - SmallPalm Artist - 1” Flat PaintbrushIn this episode, we discuss: the small artist kitpalm artistWelcome to Brush & Banter—the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio. Connect with Zibra: WebsiteInstagramTikTokFacebookYouTubeBlog

The Zibra podcast is back - refreshed, reimagined, and ready to celebrate every kind of creative. In this first episode of Brush & Banter, Brie, Annie, and Lauren pull back the curtain on the rebrand, introduce themselves, and share why this podcast is for anyone who picks up a paint brush and brings a vision to life. Meet your new co-hosts! Annie Bolding (Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs) and Lauren Cooper (Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio) join Brie Hansen (President of Zibra) to bring fresh perspectives, creative energy, and real talk about life as working artists. Resources mentioned: Rooted Muralist ConferenceMedium Artist Brush SetSquare BrushPalm Flex ProIn this episode, we discuss: Brush & BanterGolden MomentDon’t Cry Over Spilled PaintWelcome to Brush & Banter—the podcast where creativity meets real-life hustle. Brought to you by Zibra, we go beyond perfect brushstrokes to explore the messy, magical, and meaningful side of being an artist. We’re here to bring you conversations with working artists, practical tips to grow your creative business, and a built-in painting companion for your next project. Brush & Banter is co-hosted by Brie Hansen, President of Zibra; Annie Bolding, Founder of It’s a Disco Day Designs; and Lauren Cooper, Founder of Rosemont Lane Design Studio. Connect with Zibra: WebsiteInstagramTikTokFacebookYouTubeBlog

Sarah Bezanson of Sarah Bezanson Interiors shares her expert advise on things to consider when choosing a color.

Main: Nine members of the refinishing community share their favorite Christmas decorations and the rooms they have them in. Merry Christmas! Autumn Heseman - Prayed Over Pieces https://www.instagram.com/prayedoverpieces/ Christine Castray - Driftwood Home Furniture https://www.instagram.com/driftwoodhomefurniture/ Jennifer Marr - Jenni Ray at Home https://www.instagram.com/jennyraeathome/ Lauren Svacina - Portland Row Living https://www.instagram.com/portlandrowliving/ Lianne Carey - Carey Us Home https://www.instagram.com/careyushome/?hl=en MaryAnn McDermott - Weathered in White https://www.instagram.com/weathered_in_white/?hl=en Patty Brummel - Midlife Revival https://www.instagram.com/mid_life_revival/?hl=en Susan Stefano - Little Lou Designs https://www.instagram.com/littleloudesigns/?hl=en Zibra: Website: Zibra https://www.enjoyzibra.com/ Podcast Page: Zibra's Before & After Furniture Refinishing Podcast https://www.enjoyzibra.com/pages/the-zibra-podcast-season-5

Main: Zeb and Jami of Jami Ray Vintage share how they became successful upcycling thrift shoppers and how you can too! Zeb and Jami - Jami Ray Vintage https://www.instagram.com/jamirayvintage/ Zibra: Website: Zibra https://www.enjoyzibra.com/ Podcast Page: Zibra's Before & After Furniture Refinishing Podcast https://www.enjoyzibra.com/pages/the-zibra-podcast-season-5

Main: Furniture refinishing success, Jennifer of Saved by Design, goes into detail on how she shops for furniture pieces to refinish. Jennifer - Saved by Design https://www.instagram.com/savedbydesign.tn/ Tip: Using Colors to Prime Lindsay - The Rural Legend https://www.instagram.com/therurallegend/ Studio: What's Happening in Your Studio? Heather - The Cozy Sunroom https://www.instagram.com/thecozysunroom/ Jessi - Cypress House Design https://www.instagram.com/cypresshousedesign/ Kara - Lemons to Lemonade Furniture https://www.instagram.com/lemons_to_lemonade_furniture/ Zibra: Website: Zibra https://www.enjoyzibra.com/ Podcast Page: Zibra's Before & After Furniture Refinishing Podcast https://www.enjoyzibra.com/pages/the-zibra-podcast-season-5

Lianne of Carey Us Home chats about mixing old and new decor and furniture to create a timeless home. Main: Lianne of Carey Us Home chats about mixing old and new decor and furniture to create a timeless home. Lianne - Carey Us Home https://www.instagram.com/careyushome/ Tip: Using Colors to Prime Lindsay - The Rural Legend https://www.instagram.com/therurallegend/ Studio: What's Happening in Your Studio? Tara - Vintage Chic https://www.instagram.com/vintagechiciniowa/ Kandi - Orchid's True Blue https://www.instagram.com/orchidstrueblue/ Alyssa - The Things We Built https://www.instagram.com/the_things_we_built/ Zibra: Website: Zibra https://www.enjoyzibra.com/ Podcast Page: Zibra's Before & After Furniture Refinishing Podcast https://www.enjoyzibra.com/pages/the-zibra-podcast-season-5