Common Sense Ohio

Steve Palmer and Norm Murdock get into a wide range of hot-button issues shaping Ohio and the nation. From a fascinating look at Dave Thomas’ legacy as an adoption advocate and the roots of Wendy’s in Columbus, to a deep discussion about the recent chaos at airports and the politics behind funding TSA and Homeland Security, the conversation is as timely as it is insightful. The hosts also explore the country’s Judeo-Christian foundations through Revolutionary War history, dig into the heated debate over the SAVE Act and voter identification, and break down the controversy surrounding secret NDAs and massive tax incentives fueling the data center boom in Ohio. Plus, they cover big news in tech law with a $375 million verdict against Meta for child endangerment, take on the latest in the Iran conflict, and spotlight the Columbus Blue Jackets’ surprising playoff surge. Harper CPA Plus Moments 00:00 "Dave Thomas: Adoption Advocate" 05:00 Biblical Roots of U.S. Founding 08:16 Defunding DHS: A Divisive Debate 11:52 Democrats' Minneapolis Win Uncertain 14:31 "Short-Term vs Long-Term Strategy" 18:14 Free Citizen ID for Voting 19:41 "Unregistered Births on Reservations" 24:25 "Iranian Conflict: No End Ahead" 27:01 Meta Faces Landmark Liability Case 32:03 "JobsOhio's Secretive Funding Explained" 36:14 Land Buyouts Reshape New Albany 39:05 "Local Betrayal Over Intel Deal" 40:29 Supreme Court Debate on Ballots 45:15 "Brave Pilots in Collision" 49:44 "Protester Deaths, J6 & Impact" 50:43 "Weekly Common Sense Recap" Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. info@commonsenseohioshow.com Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors. Copyright 2026 Common Sense Ohio

On this episode of Common Sense Ohio, hosts Steve Palmer and Norm Murdock take listeners on a lively ride through both history and hot-button issues facing Ohio and the nation. The show kicks off with some fascinating "this day in history" moments, from Elvis Presley's $1,000 down payment on Graceland to George Washington’s strategic triumph over the British in Boston. Steve Palmer and Norm Murdock reflect on simpler times, the complexity of historic figures, and draw surprising connections to today's world. The conversation shifts to the rapidly changing international climate, with in-depth analysis of current tensions in the Middle East, debates over national defense funding, and the political fallout from controversial decisions in Congress. The hosts don’t shy away from tough questions—whether it’s the justification behind conflict with Iran, national security concerns at the border, or the demands placed on the Department of Homeland Security. Closer to home, the episode covers the political quagmire around voter ID laws and election reform, pulls back the curtain on Ohio’s JobsOhio controversy, and celebrates a small-town legal victory where civil liberties prevailed in a comedic case involving rapper Afro Man. Throughout, Steve Palmer and Norm Murdock bring a sharp mix of historical perspective, constitutional insight, and relatable local stories—reminding us all why common sense still matters most in the Buckeye State. Harper CPA Plus Moments 00:00 Washington Forces British From Boston 08:24 Straits of Hormuz Tensions 13:44 "Joe Kent's Resignation Fallout" 16:23 "Iran's Hostility Toward America" 26:15 ID Rules and Constitutional Debate 30:03 EPA Climate Rollback Sparks Lawsuit 35:09 "Iran: War, Oppression, and Resistance" 39:48 "Afro Man's Lemon Pound Cake Lawsuit" 46:19 "Probable Cause and Search Warrants" 52:58 "Good Intentions Sustain Governance" 54:14 "Controversy Over JobsOhio Corporation" 59:06 Contract Secrecy Sparks Ohio Backlash 01:05:07 "Tyranny of Moral Busybodies" Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. info@commonsenseohioshow.com Copyright 2026 Common Sense Ohio Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors.

Welcome back to Common Sense Ohio! In this episode, Steve Palmer and Norm Murdock dive into the whirlwind of current events, offering their signature blend of historical perspective, common sense, and candid conversation. Kicking things off with reflections on March 11th in history, they discuss the legacy of the Lend-Lease Act and how America’s reluctant involvement in global affairs resonates in today’s headlines. From there, the conversation pivots to the complexities of presidential war powers, the ongoing tensions with Iran, and the challenging realities of nuclear proliferation. Norm Murdock brings in deep dives on military history, while Steve Palmer unpacks what happens when American leadership faces tough choices on the world stage. Harper CPA Plus on website Back on the home front, the hosts don’t hold back as they critique Ohio’s political landscape, including Governor DeWine’s recent State of the State address, the implications of new data centers, and the everyday frustrations of Ohio commuters. As always, they close with a look at the good and the bad in the week—mixing national security, leadership, sacrifice, and a dash of pop culture. So, whether you’re looking for thoughtful analysis, a dash of history, or just a little honest talk about what’s going on in the Buckeye State and beyond, you’re in the right place. Hit play and get your weekly dose of Common Sense Ohio! 00:00 Passenger Ships as War Targets 06:30 Washington's Commander Guard Origins 14:35 War Powers and Constitutional Debate 20:52 "Questioning Government Power Levers" 21:46 "Elections Shape Power Dynamics" 27:43 Middle East Conflict and Tensions 33:46 Sacrifice and Lost Patriotism 39:05 "Cluelessness and Global Threats" 45:23 "Construction Work and Moral Responsibility" 51:44 Deeper Meaning of Ten Commandments 56:55 Government Overreach and Parenting Critique 01:01:11 "Saluting Modern-Day Heroes" Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. info@commonsenseohioshow.com https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/ Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors. A Big Thanks to our sponsor, Harper Plus Accounting. They provide more than just basic transactions, offering expert business consultation as well. They go beyond the basics, providing comprehensive advice on saving, planning, and optimizing taxes. Copyright 2026 Common Sense Ohio

Welcome back to Common Sense Ohio! In this week’s episode, Steve Palmer, Norm Murdock, and the crew jump right into the thick of things—discussing the State of the Union (yes, Trump gave quite the speech), the ongoing drama within the Ohio Republican Party, and, of course, the Olympics making headlines for all kinds of reasons. The conversation kicks off with a bit of history—think Muhammad Ali’s upset victory and the origins of income tax—before spiraling into today’s hot topics. You’ll hear some pretty candid (and funny) rants on everything from government spending to why letting kids fail might actually make us all stronger. The guys dig into why it’s so hard for folks on either side of the aisle to just admit when the other side does something good, and how that stubbornness is playing out everywhere—from Congress to local politics. Plus, as always, there’s talk of big Ohio issues (looking at you, data centers), thoughts on partisan hypocrisy, a little legal advice about fighting parking tickets, and even a shout-out to the American hockey team and what makes this country so unique. Whether you’re here for the politics, the history, or just to get a few laughs, this episode has a bit of everything. Pull up a chair, get comfortable, and join us for another round of unfiltered, common sense conversation! Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. info@commonsenseohioshow.com Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/ A Big Thanks to our sponsor, Harper Plus Accounting. They provide more than just basic transactions, offering expert business consultation as well. They go beyond the basics, providing comprehensive advice on saving, planning, and optimizing taxes. Copyright 2026 Common Sense Ohio

Election Integrity, Ohio News, and Super Bowl Culture: Highlights from the Latest Common Sense Ohio On the latest episode of Common Sense Ohio, Steve and Norm look into timely topics shaping both the Buckeye state and the nation. From voter ID debate to Super Bowl halftime controversy, and even local law enforcement updates, there’s plenty for thought leaders and Ohio enthusiasts to chew on. Here are three key takeaways from the discussion: The SAVE Act & Election Integrity: The push for a federal voter ID law is heating up. While Ohio already requires ID at the polls, the proposed SAVE Act would apply voter ID nationally, sparking constitutional debates about the balance of federal vs. state authority in running elections. Both Republican and Democrat voters reportedly support voter ID in high numbers—pointing to bipartisan concerns about election security. Economic & Regulatory Impact: From new EPA rulemakings impacting auto and trucking prices, to the boom in Ohio data centers driving up local taxes and impacting rural life, legislation and regulatory action continue to have big ripple effects. The debate around balancing economic growth, environmental policy, and protecting local communities is front and center. Culture & Division in Public Spaces: Whether it’s reactions to the Super Bowl halftime show or stories of political confrontation in everyday settings, Steve and Norm explore how identity politics and culture wars are spilling into spaces meant for shared celebration. Their call? Let’s bring back more unity—and healthy debate—into these communal moments. They also touch on school choice battles, the importance of government fraud enforcement, and personal stories from Ohio history, making this episode a must-listen for anyone interested in policy, culture, or just a dose of common sense. Catch the episode for more insights, and if you’re passionate about these issues, chime in with your perspective—let’s keep the conversation going! Moments 00:00 "Eerie Parallels to Reagan Era" 05:16 Georgia's Role in American Revolution 12:47 "State vs. Federal Voting Control" 17:33 "Election Integrity and Population Shifts" 25:15 EPA Greenhouse Gas Rule Challenge 26:33 "Critique of Government Overreach" 33:47 Cartels, Missiles, and Border Tensions 39:44 Ohio School Choice Legal Challenge 44:10 Miranda Rights and Custody Explained 49:36 Pulled Over in New Mexico 57:06 "Breezy's Comeback Triumph" 01:02:51 Super Bowl Halftime Backlash 01:05:05 "Weekly Common Sense Updates" Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. info@commonsenseohioshow.com Harper CPA Plus on website Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/ Copyright 2026 Common Sense Ohio

Whether it’s Kid Rock vs. Bad Bunny, legal victories, or the ongoing mess in New York City, this episode is packed with sharp insight, humor, and the grounded perspective you’ve come to expect from Common Sense Ohio. Welcome back to another episode of Common Sense Ohio! This week, hosts Steve Palmer and Norm Murdock are joined by guest Troy Henriksen for a lively and thought-provoking conversation about the headlines and hot topics defining the Buckeye State—and the nation. In this episode, the crew dives into history with a quick lesson on the Punic Wars and how "Carthago Delenda est" echoes through modern politics, before pivoting to the current state of lunar exploration and the Artemis missions. They break down the heated congressional hearing that saw Rep. Maxine Waters telling Treasury Secretary Scott Besant to "shut up," and unpack the broader problems with identity politics, including the conflation of policies and personal traits in elections. The episode also tackles tariffs, blue-collar realignment, and the shifting political affiliations of labor unions, with Steve Palmer and Norm Murdock debating their effectiveness and political fallout. They take a closer look at the legal side of hot-button issues, discussing the recent lawsuits around gender-affirming surgeries and the critical role of trial lawyers in shaping medical and corporate behavior. The conversation doesn’t shy away from tough subjects—from the practical challenges of immigration and birthright citizenship to the mounting controversy over the release of Jeffrey Epstein files and the danger of rumor-driven reporting. And in true Common Sense Ohio fashion, no pop culture stone is left unturned: the Super Bowl halftime show gets the spotlight, with a debate on whether politics belongs in football and who really wins the battle for America’s remote control. Moments 00:00 "Carthago Delenda Est" 03:59 Corrections on Greenland and Deportations 09:51 "Tariffs and Global Diplomacy" 10:45 "Tariffs: Economic vs. Political Impact" 16:10 "Advocating Informed Vaccine Choices" 17:19 Freedom of Access Debate 22:47 Abortion Clinic Buffer Zone Debate 24:21 "Litigation Reflects Deeper Discontent" 28:54 Haitian TPS, Birthright Citizenship Debate 30:20 "Origins of Birthright Citizenship" 33:16 "Rudy, Koch, and Common Sense" 39:03 "Epstein Case Allegations and Fallout" 40:43 "Reflections on Evolving Debates" 45:58 "Grammys, Virtue Signaling, Stolen Land" 49:50 "Keep the Super Bowl Apolitical" 50:51 "Evolution of National Anthem Performances" Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. info@commonsenseohioshow.com Harper CPA Plus Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors. Copyright 2026 Common Sense Ohio

Welcome back to Common Sense Ohio! In this week’s episode, hosts Steve Palmer and Norm Murdock kick things off with a sobering look back at the Challenger and Columbia space shuttle disasters, drawing lessons about complacency, risk, and governmental pressure. The discussion quickly heats up as Norm Murdock tackles the rampant misuse of words like “Nazi” in modern political discourse, calling for historical literacy and cooler heads in polarized times. The trio takes a hard look at recent protests and law enforcement encounters in Minnesota, emphasizing the importance of wise governance and responsible rhetoric—while also leveling criticism at public officials and the media for fanning the flames of division. You’ll also hear sharp analysis of Trump’s new “baby account” program, the state of Ohio’s spiking credit card debt, and an eyebrow-raising moment from the current AG race. From real estate on Lake Erie to digital kill switches in your car, the guys don’t shy away from tough ideas or controversial takes. Plus, as always, they wrap up with their good-and-bad-of-the-week in true Common Sense Ohio style. Get ready for a lively—and sometimes provocative—hour, right from the heart of Ohio. Moments 04:11 "What is a Nazi?" 06:41 "Critique of Immigration Enforcement Rhetoric" 12:20 "Policing, Protests, and Philosophy" 12:56 "First Amendment Restrictions Explained" 18:12 "Political Manipulation and Chaos" 19:08 "Obama's Impact on Police Relations" 23:06 Trump Urges Calm, Seeks Solutions 27:58 Stock Market Accounts for Children 30:45 "Ohio AG Candidate's Controversial Remarks" 34:07 "Resisting Self-Righteous Justifications" 37:53 Ohio's Rising Debt and Taxes 39:32 "Spending Less Without Credit Cards" 42:43 Governor DeWine Opposes Immigration Enforcement 46:20 "Honesty, Hiring, and Second Chances" Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. info@commonsenseohioshow.com Harper CPA Plus Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors. Copyright 2026 Common Sense Ohio https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/

Welcome back to Common Sense Ohio! In this lively episode, Steve Palmer and Norm Murdock ring in the new year on a fresh set, diving headfirst into a mix of history, law, and local affairs. They kick things off with a look back at the Treaty of Paris and the complexities that shaped America’s early days, drawing fascinating parallels between historical events and today’s debates. From there, the conversation takes on the hot-button issue of transgender athletes in women’s sports, unpacking recent Supreme Court cases and the challenge of defining gender in law and society. Steve Palmer and Norm Murdock don’t shy away from examining the implications for equal protection, the perils of redefining words, and the importance of common sense when it comes to making and enforcing laws. Shifting gears, they tackle the controversial ICE shooting in Minneapolis, connecting the dots between local politics, federal authority, and the practical impact on law enforcement and civilians. The hosts offer unfiltered thoughts on the responsibility of leaders, the risks of political messaging, and the lessons to be learned from recent tragedies. Rounding things out, Steve Palmer and Norm Murdock dig into Ohio news—including fraud investigations, immigration policy, and a high-profile double murder case in Columbus. As always, they wrap up with their “good and bad” picks of the week, highlighting national defense, political maneuvering, and the unpredictability of current events. It’s an episode packed with sharp insights, historical context, and the straight talk you expect from Common Sense Ohio. Let’s jump in! 00:00 "Commodore Perry's Lake Erie Legacy" 10:15 Traditional Values Under Siege 13:37 Defining Terms in Rational Debate 21:40 "Personal Choice, No Public Funding" Lawyer Talk panel discussion 27:00 "Legal Insights on Police Cases" 32:35 "Police Stand-Down and Consequences" 35:48 Neglected Duty in Minneapolis Riots 41:53 State Police Power and Minnesota's Failure 44:39 ICE Enforcement and Local Responsibility 59:48 "Possibility of Death Penalty" 01:05:02 "Military Reform and Accountability" 01:11:12 "Trump Heckled at Ford Factory" 01:12:21 "Common Sense Ohio 2026" Harper CPA Plus Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors. Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. Copyright 2026 Common Sense Ohio

Welcome back to Common Sense Ohio! In this episode, Steve Palmer, Norm Murdock, and Troy Henriksen kick off the new year with their signature blend of straight talk, history lessons, and a healthy dose of sarcasm. The guys start out admitting—yep, Steve Palmer called that Ohio State would win, and, well, that didn’t happen. From there, they waste no time jumping into a whirlwind of topics: quick trips through world history, sharp takes on modern socialism creeping into local politics, and plenty of jabs at New York’s rent control mess and what it might mean for property rights everywhere. You’ll hear them dig into the nuts and bolts of tax changes, dissect the fallout from massive fraud in Minnesota and Ohio, and call out lawmakers who are too afraid of offending anyone to do their jobs well. They even touch on big moves abroad—like the U.S. going after the Venezuelan regime—and what it shows about American power today. And of course, there are all the regular Common Sense Ohio trademarks: playful banter, some shameless Ohio pride, a few pop culture references, and real frustration at politicians of every stripe. By the end, you’ll get their “good, bad, and ugly” of the week—including a shout-out to a Bible podcast that’s keeping Steve Palmer on track. If you like your current events with a side of humor, skepticism, and unapologetic Midwest sensibility, you’re in the right place. Let’s get started! Harper CPA Plus Moments 00:00 "Harper Plus Accounting Spotlight" 03:46 "Fall of the Khmer Rouge" 06:33 "Trump's Actions and Policies" 11:16 "Self-Gratification Over Free Handouts" 13:46 "Fearing Centralized Government Power" 17:36 Owner Rejects ICE Presence 21:16 "Discrimination's Slippery Slope" 24:42 "Unity and Equality in Military" 27:40 Minnesota Governor's Fraud Scandal 30:54 Daycare Fraud Tied to Grocery 33:47 Ohio Republicans and Tax Concerns 37:27 "Venezuela: Discussing Maduro Indictment" 39:51 "Debating a Dictator's Removal" 43:40 "Targeting Drug Boats Debate" 45:25 "American Role in Escobar's Fall" 48:49 "Monroe Doctrine's Hemispheric Divide" 52:31 "MAGA Concerns Over H1B Stance" 55:08 Convictions, Indictments, and Cooperation Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. info@commonsenseohioshow.com Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors. Copyright 2026 Common Sense Ohio

Welcome to a special year-end episode of "Common Sense Ohio"! In this lively conversation, hosts Steve Palmer and Norm Murdock are joined by Matt Palmer, who brings a fresh, firsthand perspective as a recent Army recruit home on leave. Together, the trio reflects on the transition from high school to military service, the value of having a plan, and how discipline and responsibility can shape a young individual’s life. The episode covers a wide range of topics—from the origins of our calendar’s New Year and travel tales in Tuscany, to sharp insights on America's immigration challenges and government program fraud. Matt Palmer shares his military training journey, touching on the sense of camaraderie, skill-building, and the opportunities the Army provides, including plans for continued education. The discussion isn’t afraid to hit tough topics, including cultural assimilation, systemic fraud in taxpayer-subsidized programs, and the role of personal accountability in both public policy and private life. The hosts wrap up with reflections on aiming high, making bold predictions for the year ahead, and a spirited Ohio State football preview. Tune in for an episode that blends generational wisdom, personal growth, policy analysis, and a touch of Buckeye pride—all with a spirit of honest debate and common sense. Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. info@commonsenseohioshow.com Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors.

Small Business, Big Lessons We kick things off with Troy Henriksen sharing his journey as a law student who’s also running a thriving pressure-washing business in Central Ohio. From starting with a YouTube video to building “Drip Drop and Wash” into a legitimate LLC, Troy embodies the entrepreneurial hustle. A Big Thanks to our sponsor, Harper Plus Accounting. They provide more than just basic transactions, offering expert business consultation as well. They go beyond the basics, providing comprehensive advice on saving, planning, and optimizing taxes. The Essential SMB Survival Guide - Glenn Harper breaks down what small business owners must do as the year wraps up: Get Your Books in OrderPlan Proactivelyall yearEmployee vs. SubcontractorLessons on Liability & StructureThe School of Hard Knocks (and How to Dodge It) New Tax Changes on the Horizon - Steve Palmer and Glenn Harper talk through the latest in federal tax legislation, from permanent standard deduction increases to bonus depreciation. How will overtime and tips play out in the new bill? Our team is still sorting through the wild, wild west of reporting and compliance! Capitalism vs. Government—Who Wins for Customers? The episode ends on a candid note about the power of competition and hard work—why private business always outperforms government bureaucracy, what customer service really means, and why your reputation (especially in the age of social media) matters more than ever. Quick Tips from This Episode: withenjoy Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. info@commonsenseohioshow.com Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors. Brett Johnson, My Podcast Guy®, is an award-winning podcast consultant and small business owner for nearly 10 years, leaving a long career in radio. He is passionate about...

Welcome back to Common Sense Ohio! In this episode, “Seditious or Just Suspicious,” Steve Palmer and Norm Murdock are joined by special guest Troy Henriksen—a law student, Army veteran, and entrepreneur—for a wide-ranging, thought-provoking conversation about history, military ethics, and current events. The episode also explores the tricky line between political theater and genuine sedition, as recent messages from U.S. Senators urging military members to resist "illegal orders" spark debate. We go on to examine the shifting role of officers versus enlisted soldiers, and the real-world consequences of chain-of-command decisions. From there, the conversation broadens to encompass global strategy, with thoughts on U.S. maneuvers in Venezuela, the shadow of Chinese influence, and the Monroe Doctrine in modern times. The crew also unpacks local stories—like the City of Columbus’s water policies and property taxes—tying together themes of government overreach and personal responsibility. Harper CPA Plus Moments 00:00 "Stress-Free Tax Planning" 05:33 "Senators Urge Resistance to Orders" 14:27 Questioning Orders Without Naming Trump 17:57 Political Theater and Mixed Messaging 22:10 "Life as a Medic with Brass" 27:38 Military Trauma and Law School 34:26 "Trump's Message to China" 41:37 Gun Use: Show of Force 47:13 Justice, Authority, and Accountability 48:47 Racial Perceptions and Justice System 56:30 Rainfall Tax Debate in Columbus 58:26 "Ohio State's Michigan Woes" 01:04:02 Thanksgiving Reflection and Gratitude Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors. Brett Johnson, My Podcast Guy®, is an award-winning podcast consultant and small business owner for nearly 10 years, leaving a long career in radio. He is passionate about helping small businesses tell their story through podcasts, and he believes podcasting is a great opportunity for different voices to speak and be heard. info@commonsenseohioshow.com Copyright 2025 Common Sense Ohio

Hey everyone, welcome back to Common Sense Ohio! In this episode, we are tackling some seriously juicy stuff—everything from historic speeches to modern-day conspiracies and wild internet rumors. We kick things off reminiscing about the Gettysburg Address and what it really tells us about America—spoiler: it’s more than just “four score and seven years ago.” The guys reflect on how our past shapes not just our history lessons, but the way we see ourselves as a country today—and why so many younger folks are questioning what it even means to be American. Then, it’s right into the thick of the Epstein case, with a no-nonsense look at why everyone keeps talking about releasing those FBI files. Should everything be out in the open, or do people deserve some privacy—even if they’re just mentioned in a rumor? We dig into the good, the bad, and the seriously messy when it comes to big-name scandals and public pressure for “the truth.” But we don’t stop there. This episode goes big on the idea of “mass delusion”—why people keep falling for big, sweeping ideas, what drives these viral movements, and how social media and education are throwing gasoline on the fire. From COVID panic to the new wave of love for socialism, nothing’s off the table. So, if you like your conversation with a good dose of real talk, plenty of laughs, and a side of “wait…is that a conspiracy?”—you’re in the right place. Grab a coffee and settle in for another round of Common Sense Ohio, where the discussions are as unpredictable as the Buckeye weather. A Big Thanks to our sponsor, Harper Plus Accounting. They provide more than just basic transactions, offering expert business consultation as well. They go beyond the basics, providing comprehensive advice on saving, planning, and optimizing taxes. Moments 00:00 "Dedication to Unfinished Work" 06:27 "Understanding America's Complex History" 07:38 "Understanding Human Struggle and Growth" 12:37 Epstein FBI Files Debate 13:56 "Epstein Speculation vs. Proof" 17:57 Larry Summers, Epstein Connection 22:36 Transparency Solves Political Dilemmas 23:26 "Speculation on Epstein Investigation Files" 27:52 "Not a Legal Precedent" 31:44 "Propaganda's Global Digital Reach" 35:39 "Reassessing COVID Response Attitudes" 37:16 "Critique of Socialism and Leadership" 40:04 "Trump Administration Economic Gimmicks" 44:27 "Linda McMahon Closing Education Department" 46:16 "Federal vs. Local Education Debate" 49:35 "Whole Language vs. Phonics" 52:48 "James Garfield: Speech to Presidency" 56:00 "Reluctant but Principled President" Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. info@commonsenseohioshow.com Copyright 2025 Common Sense Ohio Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors. Brett Johnson, My Podcast Guy®, is an award-winning podcast consultant and small business owner for nearly 10 years, leaving a long career in radio. He is passionate about helping small businesses tell their story through podcasts, and

Welcome back to Common Sense Ohio! In this episode, Steve Palmer, Norm Murdock, and Brett Johnson return to the roundtable after a short break, diving straight into the latest headlines and debates shaking up Ohio and the nation. They kick things off with reflections on Veterans Day, emphasizing the importance of community and personal responsibility. The team then unpacks the aftermath of the recent federal government shutdown—its impact on everything from air travel to military readiness—and scrutinizes how political maneuvering shaped the resolution. From there, the conversation moves to big topics like SNAP benefits, healthcare subsidies, and the tension between government intervention and grassroots, local solutions. The hosts debate the merits (and pitfalls) of privatizing public services, weighing in on how government involvement—in everything from food assistance to health care—affects personal accountability and collective spirit. On the political front, the rise of ideological factions within parties, controversial leadership in New York City, and Trump’s latest policy proposals all get the Common Sense Ohio treatment. Steve Palmer, Norm Murdock, and Brett Johnson share their candid takes on inflation, tariffs, and the ongoing power struggle between Congress and the executive branch. The episode wraps up with their “Good and Bad” segment: a nod to acts of everyday kindness, technological innovation (hello, micro nuclear plants!), and some gripes about EV infrastructure woes. A Big Thanks to our sponsor, Harper Plus Accounting. They provide more than just basic transactions, offering expert business consultation as well. They go beyond the basics, providing comprehensive advice on saving, planning, and optimizing taxes. Moments 00:00 Federal Shutdown Nearing Its End 03:39 Military Training Budget Impact 08:04 "NYC Elects Controversial Leader" 12:26 Human Spirit and Accountability 13:07 "Teach to Fish Philosophy" 16:26 COVID Subsidies for Wealthy Households 22:25 "Debt, Bailouts, and Burdens" 24:04 "Confidence Declines with Big Government" 28:46 H1B Visas & Foreign Students Debate 32:20 Trump Inauguration Reflection 34:33 Reward Hard Work in Service 36:20 "Helping with Heavy Tile Disposal" 41:30 Presidential Tariff Powers Case 43:37 Tariff Challenge and White House Strategy 47:07 Congressional Corruption Linked to China 52:11 Indiana Governor's Visit 54:16 EV Rental Charging Struggles 56:11 Beyond the Holiday Season Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors. Brett Johnson, My Podcast Guy®, is an award-winning podcast consultant and small business owner for nearly 10 years, leaving a long career in radio. He is passionate about helping small businesses tell their story through podcasts, and he believes podcasting is a great opportunity for different voices to speak and be heard. Copyright 2025 Common Sense Ohio

We get into the drama of a government shutdown now stretching past 35 days, the finger-pointing between Democrats and Republicans, and the shifting landscape of American protest culture. The guys kick things off with a bit of history—recalling the infamy of bank robber Pretty Boy Floyd and the legacy of Depression-era antiheroes—which sets the stage for a bigger discussion about the lure of socialism, misguided economic policies, and why some political promises, like free bus rides and government-run groceries, sound a little too good to be true. A Big Thanks to our sponsor, Harper Plus Accounting. They provide more than just basic transactions, offering expert business consultation as well. They go beyond the basics, providing comprehensive advice on saving, planning, and optimizing taxes. They also tackle a heated controversy out of the courts: Should gender identity be considered in sentencing? The conversation gets lively as the crew debates judicial overreach, the role of Congress, and whether impeachment is the right remedy when judges make questionable calls. Plus, they take a hard look at gerrymandering, voting rights, and even the right for non-citizens—and out-of-town property owners—to vote in local elections. info@commonsenseohioshow.com Tensions over protest rhetoric, violent political speech, and recent high-profile crimes spark a serious conversation about how words escalate to action in today’s America. And to round things out, there’s everything from local interest stories about Columbus to reflections on the importance of craft and hard work in an uncertain economy. They bring clarity, debate, and a healthy dose of skepticism to the headlines, making waves across the Buckeye State and beyond. Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors. Brett Johnson, My Podcast Guy®, is an award-winning podcast consultant and small business owner for nearly 10 years, leaving a long career in radio. He is passionate about helping small businesses tell their story through podcasts, and he believes podcasting is a great opportunity for different voices to speak and be heard. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/ Copyright 2025 Common Sense Ohio Mentioned in this episode: Harper CPA Plus

So whether you dread your next jury summons or just want a fresh, thoughtful take on the week's news, settle in—Common Sense Ohio is ready to break it all down. Welcome back to Common Sense Ohio! In this episode, hosts Steve Palmer and Brett Johnson dive deep into America’s enduring tradition of jury duty—sparked by the absence of their co-host Norm, who’s been called to serve. Steve shares his experiences as a defense lawyer and reflects on what makes the jury system unique, tracing its origins from the Magna Carta to the Constitution, and explaining why it remains a fundamental check against concentrated power and confirmation bias. You’ll hear practical stories from the courtroom, a lively discussion on the challenges of critical thinking in modern society, and how media and politics intersect with our legal system—from grand juries to those headline-grabbing indictments. The hosts also don’t shy away from the latest hot topics: selective and vindictive prosecution, the ongoing federal government shutdown, and political gridlock in DC. They ask tough questions about fairness, transparency, and whether our leaders are held to the same standards as the rest of us. Plus, the episode features plenty of Ohio flavor, with shoutouts to local traditions like the Circleville Pumpkin Show and updates on Ohio State’s football dominance. As always, Steve and Brett tackle the good, the bad, and the ugly—keeping it conversational and grounded, with plenty of common sense. info@commonsenseohioshow.com Moments 00:00 Juries: Revered and Criticized 05:07 Small County Power Dynamics 09:16 "Jury as Check on Prosecution" 12:16 Wrongful Prosecution and Confirmation Bias 14:55 "Blind Conviction and Evidence" 18:14 Special Needs Funding Concerns 23:20 Prosecution Fairness and Accountability 26:52 "Public Trust and Sentencing Severity" 27:52 "Public Trust Demands Higher Standard" 31:27 Fairness and Truth in Courtrooms 36:19 Republicans Avoid Shutdown Debate 39:33 "Healthcare Debate and Media Standoff" 42:29 "Republicans, Shutdown, and Health" 45:41 "Simple Language Matters" 47:33 "Critiquing Academic Nonsense" 50:18 "Clarity Over Complexity" 56:23 "Pumpkin Show & Road Updates" 58:19 "Ohio State's Uncertain Journey" Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors. Brett Johnson, My Podcast Guy®, is an award-winning podcast consultant and small business owner for nearly 10 years, leaving a long career in radio. He is passionate about helping small businesses tell their story through podcasts, and he believes podcasting is a great opportunity for different voices to speak and be heard. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/ Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. Copyright 2025 Common Sense Ohio Mentioned in this episode: Harper CPA Plus

Plug in for a whirlwind tour of law, politics, personal liberty, and everything in between—right from the heart of Ohio. Welcome back to Common Sense Ohio! In this episode, "Keep Your Weed on ICE," hosts Steve Palmer, Norm Murdock, and Brett Johnson dive into some of the hottest current issues affecting Ohio and beyond. The table is full as the trio kicks things off with a wild ride through history — from the infamous O’Leary cow that sparked the Great Chicago Fire, to the resilience that comes from adversity, and how disasters can sometimes lead to unexpected growth and progress. The discussion quickly shifts to today’s most pressing headlines: ICE and the Oklahoma State Police cracking down on illegal truck drivers, the complexities of commercial driver’s licenses, and the alarming trend of unqualified drivers behind the wheel of big rigs. The guys also address the rising rates of domestic violence and what might be fueling this troubling trend. info@commonsenseohioshow.com Marijuana legalization and its impact on impaired driving take center stage as the team examines new statistics and the ongoing debate about weed, personal responsibility, and public safety. Additionally, the episode explores the intersection of government surveillance, media censorship, FCC regulations, and the delicate balance between free speech, fair enforcement, and political retribution. A Big Thanks to our sponsor, Harper Plus Accounting. They provide more than just basic transactions, offering expert business consultation as well. They go beyond the basics, providing comprehensive advice on saving, planning, and optimizing taxes. Of course, no episode would be complete without the Common Sense crew’s signature back-and-forth—complete with witty banter, sports updates, pop culture gripes, and thoughtful reflections on society’s need for boundaries, accountability, and good old-fashioned common sense. Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors. Brett Johnson, My Podcast Guy®, is an award-winning podcast consultant and small business owner for nearly 10 years, leaving a long career in radio. He is passionate about helping small businesses tell their story through podcasts, and he believes podcasting is a great opportunity for different voices to speak and be heard. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/ Copyright 2025 Common Sense Ohio

We talk about the latest headlines and everyday issues affecting Ohio—and beyond. Kicking things off with the high price (and surprising theft!) of local pumpkins and apples, the duo explores how tough times are hitting both farmers and consumers this season. From there, the conversation takes a serious turn as we break down the ongoing government shutdown, who it really hurts, and what it says about how budget battles have become the new normal in Washington. They discuss the history and possible fixes, including bipartisan solutions and the elusive search for reform. Harper CPA Plus There’s also big news in healthcare, as the show covers Pfizer’s new price agreement with the federal government, what it means for consumers and drug companies, and if this shift really will help Americans afford life-saving prescriptions. On the lighter side, the hosts reflect on an unusual gathering of military brass, Pete Hegseth’s hard-hitting speech on standards, and the drive for fitness in the armed forces. The crew also takes a close look at property tax reform in Ohio—a hot-button topic that’s stirring up strange alliances and dire warnings from grassroots groups. As always, we close with their takes on what’s good, what’s bad, and what’s just common sense in the news this week—from sports updates and powerlifting grannies to driving blunders and seasonal pumpkin spice. It’s a lively, insightful, and sometimes unexpected look at issues both big and small. Plug in and join the conversation! Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. info@commonsenseohioshow.com Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors. Brett Johnson, My Podcast Guy®, is an award-winning podcast consultant and small business owner for nearly 10 years, leaving a long career in radio. He is passionate about helping small businesses tell their story through podcasts, and he believes podcasting is a great opportunity for different voices to speak and be heard. Copyright 2025 Common Sense Ohio Mentioned in this episode: Harper CPA Plus

The show opens with a heartfelt and thought-provoking discussion about the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s recent assassination, exploring the dangers of divisive language, the legacy of free speech icons, and the importance of patience and fairness during high-profile criminal investigations. From there, Brett and Norm shift gears to analyze escalating tensions between Russia and NATO—including the dangerous provocations at Eastern European borders and the real risk these actions pose to global stability. The hosts reflect on the cost, consequences, and possible internal solutions to Russia's ongoing war with Ukraine, pondering whether true change must come from within Russia itself. Back at home, they turn their sights to Columbus and Ohio’s own hot-button issues: the controversial new “entertainment tax” in the Short North, the seemingly never-ending proposals for passenger rail expansion, and staggering school truancy rates. The hosts also spotlight stories with a very human touch, including the tragic local case of gun safety, the shutdown of the Hot Chicken Takeover restaurant chain that hired the recently incarcerated, and a moving tribute to forgiveness from Charlie Kirk’s widow. Add in a spirited debate about free speech, government overreach, and the role of comedy in political discourse, and you’ve got an episode packed with clear-eyed analysis, passionate opinions, and plenty of common sense. 00:00 Power of Free Speech and Legacies 06:12 Legacy and Impact of Martyrdom 11:26 "Right to Vigorous Legal Defense" 17:54 Putin's Aggressive Actions Post-Summit 23:55 Yeltsin's Defiance in Red Square 27:04 Partisan Comedy Critique 32:52 Free Speech Double Standards 42:45 Columbus Implements Extra Tax Zone 44:21 Downtown Dining Tax Concerns 54:34 Ohio Transit Projects Proposal 55:48 Ohio Railway Project Skepticism 01:05:56 Child Safety and Gun Storage 01:07:26 Franchise Offers Second Chances 01:12:29 Journey of Forgiveness Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors. Brett Johnson, My Podcast Guy®, is an award-winning podcast consultant and small business owner for nearly 10 years, leaving a long career in radio. He is passionate about helping small businesses tell their story through podcasts, and he believes podcasting is a great opportunity for different voices to speak and be heard. Recorded at the 511 Studios, in the Brewery District in downtown Columbus, OH. info@commonsenseohioshow.com Copyright 2025 Common Sense Ohio Mentioned in this episode: Harper CPA Plus

A Nation in Mourning Steve and Norm opened the episode by expressing condolences and prayers for Charlie Kirk's family, acknowledging the horror and shock felt across the country. In their words, it’s hard to recall a public event as devastating in recent memory. Whether you followed Kirk closely or not, his tragic death is a moment for national reflection. Charlie Kirk: Beyond the Headlines The conversation pushed past media narratives and social media short clips to consider Kirk’s legacy—his pioneering work in independent media, his faith, and, most notably, his commitment to respectful dialogue. Steve emphasized Kirk’s ability to listen, concede good points in debate, and ultimately reach across divides—a reminder for all of us about the value of seeking truth and understanding, even in disagreement. Brett encouraged listeners to watch Kirk’s long-form discussions, especially with those who disagreed with him, as a counter to selectively-edited viral moments. Before rushing to judgment on anyone, there’s wisdom in “shutting up and listening.” The Dangers of Dehumanization—And Our Words Steve and Brett spent time dissecting how media and online culture can create avatars out of public figures—dehumanizing them and making “pulling the trigger” less personal. They critiqued language like “unalived” that softens the reality of murder, calling on everyone to “watch your language” and resist the drift toward dehumanization. Cancel Culture and Its Reversal The podcast tackled the immediate online reactions to Kirk’s assassination: from national mourning to a reprehensible flood of celebration on social media from those who disagreed with Kirk’s views. The hosts distinguished between cancel culture—the firing and shunning of people for their beliefs—and the morally different act of celebrating cold-blooded murder. Steve reflected on recent calls from figures like J.D. Vance to “call out” those who cheer for such violence, drawing important lines between expressing a political opinion and amplifying inhumane, hateful rhetoric. The Legal Road Ahead As a criminal defense lawyer, Steve provided a clear breakdown of what happens next for Kirk’s accused killer: the arrest, initial court appearance, the roles of prosecution and defense, and the significance of due process even in the most emotional cases. The episode emphasized that while the desire for swift justice is understandable, a careful, deliberate legal process is vital to our country’s integrity. A Call for Unity & Respect Both hosts closed with calls for more listening, more respect, and less tribalism. In Charlie Kirk’s memory, and for the good of our country, let’s step back from celebrating division and focus on what unites us as Americans—and as people. Stephen Palmer is the Managing Partner for the law firm, Palmer Legal Defense. He has specialized almost exclusively in criminal defense for over 26 years. Steve is also a partner in Criminal Defense Consultants, a firm focused wholly on helping criminal defense attorneys design winning strategies for their clients. Norm Murdock is an automobile racing driver and owner of a high-performance and restoration car parts company. He earned undergraduate degrees in literature and journalism and graduated with a Juris Doctor from the University of Cincinnati College of Law in 1985. He worked in the IT industry for two years before launching a career in government relations in Columbus, Ohio. Norm has assisted clients in the Transportation, Education, Healthcare, and Public Infrastructure sectors. Brett Johnson, My Podcast Guy®, is an award-winning podcast consultant and small business owner for nearly 10 years, leaving a long career in radio. He is passionate about helping small businesses tell their story through podcasts, and he believes podcasting is a great...