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Margaret talks with Caitlin Durante about Truus and Freddie Oversteegan and Hannie Schaft and their rebellion that left Nazi bodies around the Netherlands Sources: Three Ordinary Girls, Tim Brady https://firestorm.coop/products/24908-three-ordinary-girls.html?referral=killjoy https://socialisme-nu.translate.goog/truus-menger-oversteegen-1923-2016-een-strijdster-die-doorging/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www.annefrank.org/en/timeline/222/mandatory-registration-for-forced-labour/ https://dirkdeklein.net/2025/03/29/the-arbeidsinzet-forced-labour/ https://dirkdeklein.net/2017/05/24/ernst-cahn-the-koco-affair/ https://www.flashscore.com/news/80-years-of-freedom-the-amsterdam-boxing-school-which-formed-the-first-jewish-resistance/ncIglSYp/ https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=229629 https://libcom.org/article/history-dutch-fascism-and-militant-anti-fascist-response-job-polak https://dirkdeklein.net/2018/01/21/the-dutch-jews-who-fought-back/ https://socialisme-nu.translate.goog/75-jaar-februaristaking-wat-herdenken-we/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www-dedokwerker-nl.translate.goog/boksschool_olympia.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://sportgeschiedenis-nl.translate.goog/overige-sport/vechtsporten/het-joodse-verzet-van-1941-bestond-grotendeels-uit-amsterdamse-boksers-en-worstelaars/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www.canonvannederland.nl/nl/page/206267/de-geuzen https://elib.be/m/articles/view/FROM-THE-HISTORY-OF-THE-RESISTANCE-MOVEMENT-IN-THE-NETHERLANDS-1940-1945 https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/liberation-of-holland https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/history-of-war/armies-cant-march-in-clogs/ https://www.verzetsmuseum.org/nl/kennisbank/nederlandse-unie https://www.npr.org/2025/01/07/nx-s1-5249956/nazi-collaborators-netherlands-archive https://apnews.com/article/netherlands-collaboration-nazis-holocaust-remembrance-archives-d7d3b0c6e2e99146c484171e03046758 https://web.archive.org/web/20230307064313/http://home.iae.nl/users/arcengel/NedIndie/introengels.htm https://tomgoyens.substack.com/p/how-a-dutch-anarchist-defied-the https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/from-nazi-criminal-to-postwar-spy-german-intelligence-hired-klaus-barbie-as-agent-a-740393.html https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/13507486.2019.1699505 https://royaldutchshellplc.com/2025/10/14/shells-dark-fuel-the-nazi-past-the-oil-giant-couldnt-bury/ https://www.hannahbyron.com/blog/the-first-resistance-the-geuzen See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret discusses your reactions to Le Guin's "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" and "The Day Before the Revolution" with Hazel Acacia and Steven Monacelli See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret continues her coversation with Caitlin Durante about the rise of the Dutch Left and the early Jewish resistance to Nazis. Sources: Three Ordinary Girls, Tim Brady https://firestorm.coop/products/24908-three-ordinary-girls.html?referral=killjoy https://socialisme-nu.translate.goog/truus-menger-oversteegen-1923-2016-een-strijdster-die-doorging/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www.annefrank.org/en/timeline/222/mandatory-registration-for-forced-labour/ https://dirkdeklein.net/2025/03/29/the-arbeidsinzet-forced-labour/ https://dirkdeklein.net/2017/05/24/ernst-cahn-the-koco-affair/ https://www.flashscore.com/news/80-years-of-freedom-the-amsterdam-boxing-school-which-formed-the-first-jewish-resistance/ncIglSYp/ https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=229629 https://libcom.org/article/history-dutch-fascism-and-militant-anti-fascist-response-job-polak https://dirkdeklein.net/2018/01/21/the-dutch-jews-who-fought-back/ https://socialisme-nu.translate.goog/75-jaar-februaristaking-wat-herdenken-we/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www-dedokwerker-nl.translate.goog/boksschool_olympia.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://sportgeschiedenis-nl.translate.goog/overige-sport/vechtsporten/het-joodse-verzet-van-1941-bestond-grotendeels-uit-amsterdamse-boksers-en-worstelaars/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www.canonvannederland.nl/nl/page/206267/de-geuzen https://elib.be/m/articles/view/FROM-THE-HISTORY-OF-THE-RESISTANCE-MOVEMENT-IN-THE-NETHERLANDS-1940-1945 https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/liberation-of-holland https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/history-of-war/armies-cant-march-in-clogs/ https://www.verzetsmuseum.org/nl/kennisbank/nederlandse-unie https://www.npr.org/2025/01/07/nx-s1-5249956/nazi-collaborators-netherlands-archive https://apnews.com/article/netherlands-collaboration-nazis-holocaust-remembrance-archives-d7d3b0c6e2e99146c484171e03046758 https://web.archive.org/web/20230307064313/http://home.iae.nl/users/arcengel/NedIndie/introengels.htm https://tomgoyens.substack.com/p/how-a-dutch-anarchist-defied-the https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/from-nazi-criminal-to-postwar-spy-german-intelligence-hired-klaus-barbie-as-agent-a-740393.html https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/13507486.2019.1699505 https://royaldutchshellplc.com/2025/10/14/shells-dark-fuel-the-nazi-past-the-oil-giant-couldnt-bury/ https://www.hannahbyron.com/blog/the-first-resistance-the-geuzen See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret talks with Caitlin Durante about the rise of the Dutch Left and the early Jewish resistance to Nazis Sources: Three Ordinary Girls, Tim Brady https://firestorm.coop/products/24908-three-ordinary-girls.html?referral=killjoy https://socialisme-nu.translate.goog/truus-menger-oversteegen-1923-2016-een-strijdster-die-doorging/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www.annefrank.org/en/timeline/222/mandatory-registration-for-forced-labour/ https://dirkdeklein.net/2025/03/29/the-arbeidsinzet-forced-labour/ https://dirkdeklein.net/2017/05/24/ernst-cahn-the-koco-affair/ https://www.flashscore.com/news/80-years-of-freedom-the-amsterdam-boxing-school-which-formed-the-first-jewish-resistance/ncIglSYp/ https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=229629 https://libcom.org/article/history-dutch-fascism-and-militant-anti-fascist-response-job-polak https://dirkdeklein.net/2018/01/21/the-dutch-jews-who-fought-back/ https://socialisme-nu.translate.goog/75-jaar-februaristaking-wat-herdenken-we/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www-dedokwerker-nl.translate.goog/boksschool_olympia.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://sportgeschiedenis-nl.translate.goog/overige-sport/vechtsporten/het-joodse-verzet-van-1941-bestond-grotendeels-uit-amsterdamse-boksers-en-worstelaars/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www.canonvannederland.nl/nl/page/206267/de-geuzen https://elib.be/m/articles/view/FROM-THE-HISTORY-OF-THE-RESISTANCE-MOVEMENT-IN-THE-NETHERLANDS-1940-1945 https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/liberation-of-holland https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/history-of-war/armies-cant-march-in-clogs/ https://www.verzetsmuseum.org/nl/kennisbank/nederlandse-unie https://www.npr.org/2025/01/07/nx-s1-5249956/nazi-collaborators-netherlands-archive https://apnews.com/article/netherlands-collaboration-nazis-holocaust-remembrance-archives-d7d3b0c6e2e99146c484171e03046758 https://web.archive.org/web/20230307064313/http://home.iae.nl/users/arcengel/NedIndie/introengels.htm https://tomgoyens.substack.com/p/how-a-dutch-anarchist-defied-the https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/from-nazi-criminal-to-postwar-spy-german-intelligence-hired-klaus-barbie-as-agent-a-740393.html https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/13507486.2019.1699505 https://royaldutchshellplc.com/2025/10/14/shells-dark-fuel-the-nazi-past-the-oil-giant-couldnt-bury/ https://www.hannahbyron.com/blog/the-first-resistance-the-geuzen See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret reads you a 1963 science fiction story of class stratification, sports, and first contact. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret continues her interview with the queer historian Hugh Ryan about his upcoming memoir My Bad See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret interviews the queer historian Hugh Ryan about his upcoming memoir My Bad See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

James reads Margaret the first chapter of his new book See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret finishes telling you about the histories most notorious fugitives and his days fighting against the Tsar. Sources: https://www.cityoflondon.police.uk/police-forces/city-of-london-police/areas/city-of-london/about-us/about-us/houndsditch-murders/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/gyl24y/were_the_policies_of_the_british_government_under/ https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/The-Siege-of-Sidney-Street/ https://web.archive.org/web/20070514215717/http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/O/origination/immigration.html https://www.onlatvia.com/tag/christianization https://web.archive.org/web/20250125015207/https://www.onlatvia.com/dievturiba-latvian-neo-paganism-187 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C4%81rlis_Ulmanis https://kulturaskanons.lv/en/archive/jani/ A Towering Flame, by Phillip Ruff See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret continues telling you about one of histories most notorious fugitives and his days fighting against the Tsar. Sources: https://www.cityoflondon.police.uk/police-forces/city-of-london-police/areas/city-of-london/about-us/about-us/houndsditch-murders/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/gyl24y/were_the_policies_of_the_british_government_under/ https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/The-Siege-of-Sidney-Street/ https://web.archive.org/web/20070514215717/http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/O/origination/immigration.html https://www.onlatvia.com/tag/christianization https://web.archive.org/web/20250125015207/https://www.onlatvia.com/dievturiba-latvian-neo-paganism-187 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C4%81rlis_Ulmanis https://kulturaskanons.lv/en/archive/jani/ A Towering Flame, by Phillip Ruff See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Happy National Poetry Month! Margaret reads some poems from a "Classic Age" anarchist poet and agitator See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret continues her conversation with Becca Ramos about one of histories most notorious fugitives and his days fighting against the Tsar Source: https://www.cityoflondon.police.uk/police-forces/city-of-london-police/areas/city-of-london/about-us/about-us/houndsditch-murders/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/gyl24y/were_the_policies_of_the_british_government_under/ https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/The-Siege-of-Sidney-Street/ https://web.archive.org/web/20070514215717/http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/O/origination/immigration.html https://www.onlatvia.com/tag/christianization https://web.archive.org/web/20250125015207/https://www.onlatvia.com/dievturiba-latvian-neo-paganism-187 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C4%81rlis_Ulmanis https://kulturaskanons.lv/en/archive/jani/ A Towering Flame, by Phillip Ruff See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret talks with Becca Ramos about one of histories most notorious fugitives and his days fighting against the Tsar Sources: https://www.cityoflondon.police.uk/police-forces/city-of-london-police/areas/city-of-london/about-us/about-us/houndsditch-murders/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/gyl24y/were_the_policies_of_the_british_government_under/ https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/The-Siege-of-Sidney-Street/ https://web.archive.org/web/20070514215717/http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/O/origination/immigration.html https://www.onlatvia.com/tag/christianization https://web.archive.org/web/20250125015207/https://www.onlatvia.com/dievturiba-latvian-neo-paganism-187 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C4%81rlis_Ulmanis https://kulturaskanons.lv/en/archive/jani/ A Towering Flame, by Phillip Ruff See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret reads you some golden-age pulp sci-fi about a hypercompetant space captain and her trusty cat See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret continues her talk with Shuli Branson about the international campaign to end a notorious animal testing lab Sources: https://activistfacts.com/organizations/408-shac// https://newspaper.animalpeopleforum.org/2002/10/01/crackdown-on-shac-hits-activist-for-child-porn-brings-boston-busts/ https://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/hearings?Id=DAED00C5-802A-23AD-4106-0178D28039D9&Statement_id=CB16330B-2C94-4C18-B3A1-EF426A27966C https://www.splcenter.org/resources/reports/british-arrest-animal-rights-activists/ https://www.splcenter.org/resources/reports/animal-rights-activists-get-prison-web-threat-case/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/4762481.stm https://www.thefreelibrary.com/I+dug+up+a+grave+20+years+ago+but+this+is+appalling%3b+YOXALL...-a0123564625 https://www.understandinganimalresearch.org.uk/news/the-research-they-tried-to-stop https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/may/12/animalwelfare.topstories3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DONT2Aucgs https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/aug/24/animalwelfare.nelsonmandela https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/aug/24/animalwelfare.businessofresearch https://www.the-independent.com/news/uk/this-britain/animal-rights-activists-condemned-as-guinea-pig-farm-gives-up-fight-307872.html https://aldf.org/article/federal-laws-and-agencies-involved-with-animal-testing/ https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/1fkyqaf/cmv_testing_on_animals_is_not_logically_unethical/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36762462/ https://awionline.org/awi-quarterly/summer-2025/animal-experimentation-under-trump-administration-good-bad-ugly https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/administrator-zeldin-gets-epa-back-track-eliminate-animal-testing-after-biden-admin https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/consumer-health/federal-food-drug-and-cosmetic-act-1938 https://bfp.org/the-u-s-is-finally-beginning-to-move-beyond-animal-testing/ https://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-experimentation/animals-used-experimentation-factsheets/animal-experiments-overview/ https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10408444.2023.2221987#abstract https://www.humaneworld.org/en/blog/epa-end-animal-testing https://web.archive.org/web/20080227041442/http://www.nuffieldbioethics.org/fileLibrary/pdf/RIA_Report_FINAL-opt.pdf https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK32655/ https://humanedecisions.com/charles-darwin-the-lower-animals-like-man-feel-pleasure-and-pain-happiness-and-misery/ https://web.archive.org/web/20130121030113/http://postcog.ucd.ie/files/fulltext.pdf https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/aug/14/davidpallister https://www.stagemilk.com/aaron-monologue-act-5-scene-1/ https://awionline.org/press-releases/envigo-settlement-first-step-addressing-companys-abysmal-animal-welfare-record https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/headlines/2960204-envigos-22-million-guilty-plea-animal-welfare-scandal-unveiled Puppy Killer, Leave Town, Jon Hochschartner https://we.riseup.net/imc-uk/barry-horne See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret talks with Shuli Branson about the international campaign to end a notorious animal testing lab Sources: https://activistfacts.com/organizations/408-shac// https://newspaper.animalpeopleforum.org/2002/10/01/crackdown-on-shac-hits-activist-for-child-porn-brings-boston-busts/ https://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/hearings?Id=DAED00C5-802A-23AD-4106-0178D28039D9&Statement_id=CB16330B-2C94-4C18-B3A1-EF426A27966C https://www.splcenter.org/resources/reports/british-arrest-animal-rights-activists/ https://www.splcenter.org/resources/reports/animal-rights-activists-get-prison-web-threat-case/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/4762481.stm https://www.thefreelibrary.com/I+dug+up+a+grave+20+years+ago+but+this+is+appalling%3b+YOXALL...-a0123564625 https://www.understandinganimalresearch.org.uk/news/the-research-they-tried-to-stop https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/may/12/animalwelfare.topstories3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DONT2Aucgs https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/aug/24/animalwelfare.nelsonmandela https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/aug/24/animalwelfare.businessofresearch https://www.the-independent.com/news/uk/this-britain/animal-rights-activists-condemned-as-guinea-pig-farm-gives-up-fight-307872.html https://aldf.org/article/federal-laws-and-agencies-involved-with-animal-testing/ https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/1fkyqaf/cmv_testing_on_animals_is_not_logically_unethical/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36762462/ https://awionline.org/awi-quarterly/summer-2025/animal-experimentation-under-trump-administration-good-bad-ugly https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/administrator-zeldin-gets-epa-back-track-eliminate-animal-testing-after-biden-admin https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/consumer-health/federal-food-drug-and-cosmetic-act-1938 https://bfp.org/the-u-s-is-finally-beginning-to-move-beyond-animal-testing/ https://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-experimentation/animals-used-experimentation-factsheets/animal-experiments-overview/ https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10408444.2023.2221987#abstract https://www.humaneworld.org/en/blog/epa-end-animal-testing https://web.archive.org/web/20080227041442/http://www.nuffieldbioethics.org/fileLibrary/pdf/RIA_Report_FINAL-opt.pdf https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK32655/ https://humanedecisions.com/charles-darwin-the-lower-animals-like-man-feel-pleasure-and-pain-happiness-and-misery/ https://web.archive.org/web/20130121030113/http://postcog.ucd.ie/files/fulltext.pdf https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/aug/14/davidpallister https://www.stagemilk.com/aaron-monologue-act-5-scene-1/ https://awionline.org/press-releases/envigo-settlement-first-step-addressing-companys-abysmal-animal-welfare-record https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/headlines/2960204-envigos-22-million-guilty-plea-animal-welfare-scandal-unveiled Puppy Killer, Leave Town, Jon Hochschartner https://we.riseup.net/imc-uk/barry-horne See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret reads you a story about climate refugees, ancestors, and giant spider robots that weave webs of glass See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret continues her conversation with Charles McBryde about the underground organization of anarcho-communists fighting against their own authoritarian government. Sources: https://www.anarchistnews.org/content/anarchist-ruslan-siddiqui-sentenced-29-years-maximum-security-penal-colony https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-20120888 https://avtonom.org/en/news/anarchist-alexey-rozhkov-sentenced-16-years-setting-fire-military-enlistment-office https://crimethinc.com/2022/02/15/war-and-anarchists-anti-authoritarian-perspectives-in-ukraine https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/12/05/7379273/ https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/12/05/7379409/ https://theins.ru/en/society/280988 https://avtonom.org/en/news/you-could-call-me-partisan-ruslan-siddiqi-recounts-his-anti-war-actions https://theins.ru/en/politics/252885 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmJZVKLQylA https://abc-belarus.org/en/prisoners/ https://ukrainetoday.org/ex-russian-officer-defects-to-ukraine-to-fight-enemies-of-my-homeland/ https://greydynamics.com/siberian-battalion-russian-volunteers-fighting-for-ukraine/ https://greydynamics.com/inside-russias-underground-resistance-the-rise-of-boak/ https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-anarchists-on-the-front-line-against-russia-s-war https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2025/05/29/i-couldnt-watch-people-die-in-silence-en https://freedomnews.org.uk/2024/04/27/russia-prison-sentences-for-terrorist-graffiti/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret talks with Charles McBryde about the underground organization of anarcho-communists fighting against their own authoritarian government. Sources: https://www.anarchistnews.org/content/anarchist-ruslan-siddiqui-sentenced-29-years-maximum-security-penal-colony https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-20120888 https://avtonom.org/en/news/anarchist-alexey-rozhkov-sentenced-16-years-setting-fire-military-enlistment-office https://crimethinc.com/2022/02/15/war-and-anarchists-anti-authoritarian-perspectives-in-ukraine https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/12/05/7379273/ https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/12/05/7379409/ https://theins.ru/en/society/280988 https://avtonom.org/en/news/you-could-call-me-partisan-ruslan-siddiqi-recounts-his-anti-war-actions https://theins.ru/en/politics/252885 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmJZVKLQylA https://abc-belarus.org/en/prisoners/ https://ukrainetoday.org/ex-russian-officer-defects-to-ukraine-to-fight-enemies-of-my-homeland/ https://greydynamics.com/siberian-battalion-russian-volunteers-fighting-for-ukraine/ https://greydynamics.com/inside-russias-underground-resistance-the-rise-of-boak/ https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-anarchists-on-the-front-line-against-russia-s-war https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2025/05/29/i-couldnt-watch-people-die-in-silence-en https://freedomnews.org.uk/2024/04/27/russia-prison-sentences-for-terrorist-graffiti/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret reads you a story about mushrooms, trash, and coming to terms with an imperfect utopia See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.