Iconic or Ironic

A little late on the Olympic drama (blame Bailey, as usual🙄) but oh, what a time for American patriotism🇺🇸🦅 No irony here at all!🙂‍↔️😉 (We do of course support the Team USA women carrying the medal count though—not surprising💪♀️⚡) The Olympics obviously call for a sports romance segment with Cara’s Current Reads❤️‍🔥🏒👬⛸️👭 And this lovely ep is rounded out with a deep dive into upcoming music releases🎧💯, Bailey’s KPop Demon Hunters obsession🎤😈💥(again, late to everything🙄), and some brief discussion on dating reality TV💘🎭📺 Enoyyyyy!

New year, same pod (•̀⤙•́ ) Cara and Bailey are back to discuss only the least important things in in our society •𐃷• such as our collective obsession with the year 2016 (𖦹~𖦹)??, the newest GOT spinoff, Harry Styles’ new album😙🪩,Oscar nom predictions (sorry, Bailey took foreverrrr to edit this🙄—they were predictions at the time, we promise🤞, and new music and books of note in the year of our Lorde, 2026. And featuring a ⚡new⚡segment: ‘Influenced’! Where Bailey and Cara pinpoint how their personal choices and preferences have been shaped by the media they consume😵‍💫👽꩜ Does free will even still exist with today’s algorithms??🧐💭🤔🤔. Well, it must because you are here listening to this podcast and yippee for that! ◝(ᵔᗜᵔ)◜

Perhaps a bit idiotic🫠🥸😵‍💫but let’s not get into all that…Instead, Cara and Bailey recap 2️⃣0️⃣2️⃣5️⃣ and dive into the Christmas season☃️❆🔔☃︎ Lots of wrapping in this episode! From discussing the iconic, underrated “Christmas Wrapping”(and other fav Christmas carols🎷🔔🎺🌟) to rehashing their Wrappeds of Spotify, YouTube, and Fable—oh my!🎁🎁🎁All that and a shit ton more!

Cara and Bailey prolong spooky season🐈‍⬛🕸️🦇(sorry Nov 1st Christmas observers!🙅🏻‍♀️🚫☃︎🎅) with their takes on the most iconic and ironic celebrity halloween costumes🧛‍♀️🧙‍♂️🧟‍♂️, Bailey’s review after finally seeing the cult classic Rocky Horror Picture Show👄👠🎶🏰, and a discussion of their fav scream queens👸🩸📺😈. Cara’s Current Reads📚🐛covers the current and future classics𓂃🖊🕯️📖Bailey trial runs Monotone [🎥Movie✮🍿] Monologues with the crossover no one asked for (Taylor Swift⸆⸉ x Edward Scissorhands✂️🏰❄️🖤) due to not receiving enough recognition on Letterboxd🟠🟢🔵). All this and they manage to mention only two (2) high school classes from over a decade ago!✮📓✐𖦹˖⋆

Tune in to hear Cara and Bailey's deep dive into TS12: The Life of a Showgirl💃🪩💎🎩👠 They share their album release listening experience, initial and current thoughts on the album as a whole, and Bailey's thoughts on Party of a Showgirl🪩💲🎬 Lastly, they grace this lucky audience with a song-by-song analysis—leaving no Easter Egg unturned🥚 (well, maybe a few🥚🥚🥚 There's only so much time). Somehow, Bailey still manages to sneak in a monotone monologue related to a certain track five...No Eldest Daughter or TLOAS haters allowed!🙅‍♀️🙅‍♀️

Taylor provided just a bit of news to inspire this episode’s content, and Bailey and Cara are obviously here to discuss the 🧡news🩵(spoiler alert: it is 💎iconic💎).Of equal importance, they’re here to rehash season 3 of tsitp…2 brothers🧍‍♂️🧍‍♂️1 Belly🧍‍♀️—what could go wrong ? In other wrappings up of summer🏖️🔚, Sabrina has graced us all with another short and sweet album (✨yay✨), and The Sound is here to compare and contrast Man’s Best Friend🐶 with the OG Short ‘n’ Sweet🍬 Cara so graciously provides her ✨2025✨edition of fall books she’s excited for🍂📚 (fall pls hurry up), and Bailey monologues on the return of physical media💿🥱 Praying it’s finally fall when Bailey stops talking/the next episode is released, whichever comes first please and thank you🙏⌛

It may not be 🍏Brat Summer™ but rest assured, it’s another pop girlie summer💅Harry Styles is in his “wellness” era👀, Aquaman🌊is here (welcome back Ozzy Osbourne🙏), and Labubu world supremacy may be near👹Bailey and Cara recap the frightening millennial equivalents of Labubus (think: Furby). Cara’s Current Reads include some not-so-current books (shoutout to books from the 2010s🙌). The man, the myth, the legend: Pedro Pascal is this episode’s celebrity spotlight🌶️ Emmy predictions, some CEO taunting😂👉, and music manifesting🙏🙏round out this episode. Iconic❓Iconic🔥

Taylor owns her masters✅ Sabrina owns the male gaze✅ Addison Rae owns a mic❓ Bailey and Cara ask the only question that matters: is it iconic or ironic? This episode’s Celebrity Spotlight goes to the Dakota Johnson✨Nepo baby supreme, Razzie winner, shit-shipper, and unexpected literary girlie📖. We reflect on her press tour chaos, her new love triangle movie (featuring Chris Evans and Pedro Pascal, hello?), and why she might be the most iconic mediocre actress alive (respectfully!) Also up for debate: 📚 Indie vs. traditional book covers 🎶 Songs of the summer 2025 contenders 🎧 Voice memos in music—can we stop? Please? 👑 Addison: Rae-deeming herself as the new pop girlie? 📀 DCOMs that shaped us (Stuck in the Suburbs, Lemonade Mouth, Princess Protection Program) 💋 Heterofatalism and why Sabrina Carpenter’s BDSM-lite aesthetic is actually kinda subversive (but also… still white feminism) And in case you were wondering—yes, the search for the perfect summer song is still chronic, but this podcast? Always iconic. Until next time, IoIers. 🫶💿

Brought together to witness the angelic🪽music of Lucy Dacus and Katie Gavin, Bailey and Cara reunite in Chicago for a special episode⚡️🕺They reflect on the 20th anniversary* of the Pride and Prejudice film adaption before revisiting it in theaters🎥 (the Keira Knightley version, of course *insert teeth laughing impersonation here🦷😄*). We hope this episode bewitches🧙‍♀️you,👂body🦶and soul❤️‍🔥 and perhaps provides you a bit of comfort even if you’re 27 years old👵🏻with no money🚫💸 and no prospects🚫👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨and you’re a burden to your parents and also—let’s not forget—frightened🫢. Cara provides some anti-recommendations🙅‍♀️🙅‍♀️ for the books/authors she refuses to get on board with (A Little Life, we’re looking at you😒😒), and in honor of Katie Gavin’s solo opener for Lucy, this week’s celebrity spotlight shines on her✨👩‍🦰✨Plus, Bailey monologues on Pitchfork’s fading cultural relevance📉—and their enduring snobbery🧐. Tune in for all that and more… *We did in fact mean 20th anniversary, although we said 10th. But can you blame us for pretending to be in 2015?🫤

Welcome back to another episode where you favorite hosts share the hot🥵 takes no one asked for🤭 We yap about the Oscars, Harry running a whole marathon rather than drop new music, and the microcelebrities we’re oh so proud of (and no, we won’t call them influencers). We stan animated movies that will always reign superior to their live action remakes (shoutout capitalism for the lack of original content🤑), defend romance novels as the cultural reset they are📚❤️‍🔥, and highlight Lady Gaga with our Celebrity Spotlight (Stefanie Germanotta, you will ALWAYS be famous😮‍💨💯). Bailey obviously uses her Monotone Monologue to almost exclusively critique Adrian Brody’s Oscar acceptance speech, and enlightens us all with the distinction between cringe (good) and cheugy (bad). All that and more than you could possibly want on this iconic episode🤸‍♀️💫

Happy 2025!🥳🕺Or is it…Well, we’ll try our best to provide some light in this dystopian world🌎We obviously discuss the “ban” of TikTok (note: this was recorded on 1/18👀) as well as our thoughts on social media overall (spoiler alert: Bailey did delete all her social media👀but you can still follow @iconicorironic_pod on Insta for all pod updates✨). With TikTok tethering on the edge of existence, we had to look back at its iconic predecessor—the one, the only: Vine📹 We also cover our most anticipated books and music releases of 2025 and do a deep dive on the icon, Lucy Dacus (please pray that we get tickets to her tour🙏). Lastly, Bailey declares her love and adoration for Martha Stewart following her viewing of the documentary, Martha💥⚡️All that and more on this iconic episode🪩 Fact checking: The Vine boy group Bailey was thinking of was Magcon (lol). Bailey meant Red Note not Red Book. Mason Ramsey went viral on YouTube, not Vine, after the demise of Vine.

Obviously we had to dedicate basically an entire episode to Wicked’s film adaptation💚🩷 (plus Cara’s Goodreads Choice Awards 2024 coverage📚and our Spotify Wrapped recaps🎧). Tune in for our takes—besides being completely obsessed with it including, of course, Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo’s performances. We’re also shining our Celebrity Spotlight on Cynthia and her incredible career leading up to Wicked. Plus, Bailey’s finally back with something to monologue (quite lengthily) about🤓Get ready to belt your battle cry and join us for all the Wicked fun🧹🫧

Get ready for a 🦃buffet🦃 of topics on this week’s Iconic or Ironic! For this Thanksgiving episode, we’re serving up Grammy predictions, regency romance, a Macaulay Culkin deep dive, and more. Grab your plate, it’s time to dig in🫡🍽️🤤

We're back and bringing seasonal vibes as always🍂🕷 🎃What's October for if not spooky reads, Stephen King appreciation, hyperpop remixes, and 2000s computer game nostalgia? All that and more on this episode of Iconic or Ironic🌚🌝

after ghosting y’all for a bit, we’re back with another episode🫡 we’ve been deep in olympic replays and new girl binges, but now we’re ready to spill on demure tiktok, influencer memoirs, and why artists keep dropping a million album versions (taylor, we’re looking at you👀). we’re shining our celeb spotlight on chappell roan, our midwest princess🌽🫶 and if you’re down for some nostalgia, we’re throwing it back to summer blockbusters like jaws and jurassic park😩🤑 get ready to vibe with all the iconic (and ironic) moments💖✨

After our latest month-long hiatus, we're back and ready to discuss all of the amazing music our pop girlies have blessed us with this summer😇 From Brat to The Secret of Us, we've been busy😌 Tune in to also hear us decode Bridgerton characters' zodiac signs, spotlight our pop queens Sabrina and Chappell, and reminisce about our favorite mermaid content. Get ready for all the iconic (or ironic) moments!✨

We're back with part two of our song-by-song analysis of TS11! This time diving into The Tortured Poets Department: The Anthology. Wondering How Did It End? Tune in to find out.

We've had 3+ weeks to process, and now it's time we share our thoughts on the long awaited TTPD with all our fellow Swiftie listeners🤍 Tune in to hear our overall reactions plus a song-by-song analysis...of the first half of the double album. We had so much to say that we'll be releasing a Part 2 covering The Anthology. So stay tuned!

From the buzz around the new Fantastic Four cast to our current reads, we're back with all the hot takes. We dive into the best Super Bowl ads, make Love Island predictions based on zodiac signs, and shine a spotlight on Usher's career. But most importantly, we discuss the maybe nonexistent love triangle between three of our favorite influencers (Brooke, Connor, and Kat—please tune in!).

Welcome back after our unintentional 2-month hiatus! Tune in for a recap of 2023 including...some of our own highlights, top celebrity moments, and our Spotfiy Wrapped. We celebrate 20 years of Mean Girls and share the 2024 release each zodiac should look out for, plus some pop culture resolutions to liven up your year. 2023 wasn't for me...but 2024 gonna give us some more🫡💫